Sony Again Says No To PS4 Backwards Compatibility

Jim Ryan says the company’s focus is on new games.

Posted By | On 30th, Oct. 2015 Under News


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While Sony’s sales are rolling right along, when it comes to the PS4, there are people who wonder if Microsoft’s decision to offer backwards compatibility on the Xbox One might eventually start to cut into the PS4’s lead when it comes to the console wars. If that is indeed a factor, Sony doesn’t seem to be sweating it.

Coming off a very successful Paris Games Week presentation, Sony Europe’s head, Jim Ryan sat down with Eurogamer and talked about a great many subjects and front center was whether or not Sony was rethinking it’s approach to backwards compatibility. It turns out Ryan was exactly the right guy to answer, since he gave an interview back in June where he made it clear he didn’t believe his company needed or wanted to make that move. In the most recent interview, Ryan doubled down on those comments and brought a little more context into why Sony doesn’t have any real interest in this kind of technology.

“People move on very quickly. It was very interesting to look at that montage of the various Tekkens, and seeing how those things have evolved over the years. The first one, which I loved, looks prehistoric. The next generation comes along, and people just jump at it. It gets talked about, and it’s always high on the list of what people want, but it’s not a feature that gets used that much.” Ryan said. He added that Sony’s focus is on new games. Apparently he and the rest of the company are happy to let Microsoft alone spend their time on bringing older games to the current generation of consoles.

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  • Tyson225

    Yet they are ok with remastering or i mean porting games for full price

    • a bunch of hypocrites thats what they are…

    • Holeybartender

      and so is Microsoft.

    • Holeybartender

      “need to have Xbox Live and broadband Internet for initial download of game”
      http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility
      Probably after too.

    • yah they pretty much lied about ps+…. you pay us we improve the psn, its gone 3 years now and not a crap have been done!!!

    • XbotMK1

      -Communities

      -Scheduled Events
      -Developer following
      -Recent Activities
      -Remote Purchases
      -Live From PlayStation
      -Play a game before it finishes downloading

      Funny how Microsoft has been charging for multiplayer for 13 years and yet it has just as much down time and is overall slower than PSN which is why Microsoft has desperately been releasing updates trying to play catch up. Xbox One launched without a message system. You also have to pay for their party chat which was broken at launch. PlayStation Plus has offered at least two free PS4 games every month since it launched. Can’t say the same for Xbox Live. Xbox Live is also more expensive.

      Stop being a hypocrite and a Microsoft fanboy.

    • the psn is in shambles!… i am not a ms fanboy, i have the playstation, you fool!.

    • Michael

      Nothing is down more than psnotwork. You know this, pony. Playing catchup? How can xbox live play catchup when they’ve already lapped psnotwork since last gen. PS4 online service has to catch up to ps3 first, and then, maybe, they can think about catching xbox live, which will never happen. Too broke to even attempt that one…lol

    • Gamez Rule

      Some people just cannot see the truth. Maybe they should just breath and lookup the network downtimes before making comments. For a network that has been charging for many years to be down just as much as a network that was free for many years must show something.

    • Mark

      Lol

    • Holeybartender

      http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility
      “need to have Xbox Live and broadband Internet for initial download of game”

    • sgt_hammertime

      anyone who has a gaming console must have broadband connection to download much less play games, as a matter of fact everyone needs to have a broadband connection whether you’re on console or PC. no broadband connection, then you can enjoy the lagfest, that or get booted from the lobby.

  • …and i say yet again NO TO THE PSNOW CRAP!…

  • Starman

    new game’s ??? !!!!! lmfao … show me one ..lol,

    • kma99

      They gotta spend that money on third party deals like Microsoft did just to have something to advertise for Christmas.

    • drjonesjnr

      Not as much as Microsoft spent on the tomb raider deal 🙂

    • Michael

      Well, when you have money , you can spend it. When you don’t you just wish you did…lol

    • drjonesjnr

      Oh give me a full exclusive over a timed exclusive anyday
      Microsoft obviously didn’t wanna spend the money to make tomb raider a full exclusive.
      So us lucky ps4 players get to play it 🙂
      Same can’t be said for..
      Bloodborne
      Street fighter 🙂

  • Mark

    “The first one, which I loved, looks prehistoric”. Wow. Way to bash older games. Back compat doesn’t mean u cannot focus on future IP, but it gives people the option to play older stuff without swapping systems, AND old controllers. The fragmentation is annoying indeed.

    • Gamez Rule

      I had backwards compatibility on both 360 and PS3 and I used that feature a couple of times only to find out that it was crap. The older games didn’t work correctly or look good as the originals. The older games played better on the original consoles.

      Example = comparing the original God of War II from PS2 to the GOW Collection remake on PS3 was without a doubt much better all round experience when compared to playing GOW II from disc on PS3 or PS2.

      I will not miss BW-Compact- at all. The only time I would want BW-C- is when games can be improved in everyway. And that’s not the case as yet.

    • Mark

      Well I hear u. I play new games mostly. But, there’s always a few old goodies I go back to. My point is, this isn’t about what Ryan thinks is “prehistoric”, it’s about trying to appease your base of owners. That’s what we on Xbox asked for, and that’s what Microsoft is doing. It’s an additional feature that a number of us are enjoying…

    • Gamez Rule

      Even Don Mattrick stated “that just 5% of gamers play last generation’s games on their new console, so developing a backwards compatibility system for a new console such as the Xbox One is a waste of time and resources”

      But it’s this that makes sense..He said that “if you’re backwards compatible, you’re really backwards” and I agree, as it didn’t get used much on 360 let alone PS3. Backwards compatability is one of the least used features of consoles by gamers.

    • Mark

      It’s crazy how u quote Don Mattrick, but can’t see how he was full of it. The guys says “waste of time and resources”, yet, Microsoft tasked Mike Ybarra and less than 10 engineers to emulate BC on the X1…yeah sounds like that costed us some exclusives!

    • Gamez Rule

      It still comes down to the choices of not having BW-Comp- being made by MS by not having that feature at launch ( because of their stupid visions and Policies about gaming ) so when MS had a new b*m hole ripped for them by gamers and the media too change these silly ideas MS knew a change was needed….. and fast.

      Why do you think Kinect was dropped as an always on product, or their always online gaming getting dropped, as well as not being able to use 2nd hand games or able to sell games also got dropped.

      Sales of Xbone were falling behind WW-sales of PS4 and their games had to take a hit on that console to get a good FPS, MS needed a new way of getting gamers back from PS4 to Xbone.. And Backward-comp- was the perfect way of thinking. IE- *Lets give gamers what they wanted* ..But that comes with a price for a feature being added so late into the consoles release.

      And here is that price I posted about.. ( Just like last gen ) not all games will work, and they don’t use all the features from those games to. Fact is without a 360 you cannot play all your 360 games because MS gave BW-Comp- a second thought ( hence why it wasn’t a feature at launch ) It could be held back by hardware and software.

      PS NOW is not BW-Comp- as it doen’t even need a console to play games on. Just a Samsung TV will do and a Sony control or two.

    • Mark

      Ok, so I just showed u that a number of us Xbox owners actually WANT back compat, as Microsoft will distribute it, and ur still arguing that it doesn’t matter to us. Do Xbox owners care about Share Play? Nooo. But why would we? Lol. We’re on Xbox. Uhhh, never mind

    • Gamez Rule

      I’m still using 360 to play my older games, so like I tried pointing out that back compat is something that doesn’t make me want to go out and buy an Xbone. Reason is the feature is poorly implemented and will not work with all 360 games on the new hardware. It is not true BW-Comp- and that’s just the way it is.

    • Mark

      You keep saying “I’m still playin my 360”. “I this”, “I that”. What you eat doesn’t make me, and the scores of thousands of Xbox One owners sh*t! What don’t u get? We know EVERYTHING u just said, everything. We know there’ll only be 100 games at launch, yadda yadda yah. So, if we know this, and we’re still voting on 360 games, and you’re hear tellin me it means nothing to us….I’m the fool for replying to you. Ultimately I respect your opinion, but I’m all tapped out on this topic.

    • Mark

      And if scores of thousands of Xbox owners are “backwards” as u imply, then so be it….I guess having the added option to play your old games is just asinine in this era, lol. Call us what you, and Mattrick will, we don’t care, trust me.

      http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/298503-backwards-compatibility

    • Mark

      Simply put, stop worrying about features on a system u don’t even own. This is silly, telling us what’s a good feature and whatnot, it’s pitiful and means nothing. S’like me going to DualShockers to tell those Playstation fans Remote Play is garbage….does that make sense?

    • Lar Dub

      lol…you’re quoting Don Mattrick? Yeah, he OBVIOUSLY understands what gamers want or how they use their library. Canned by Zynga one year after being jettisoned by microsoft for his handling of the XBO launch, and customer treatment.

    • Handsome Jack

      Its the least used feature by casuals, who buy games, beat them once, and then donate them to gamestop.

    • Michael

      Oh please. If sony had this you would singing a different tune. You can’t miss what you don’t have.

    • Gamez Rule

      As I posted.. I had the feature on PS3 and 360 and it was not any good. Maybe that’s why I don’t care if it isn’t on PS4.

      Even when being a feature on Xbone it’s not just a case of putting the disc in to play it either. It’s not true BS-Com- as it stands. Example “insert the disc and the console will begin
      downloading the game to your hard drive”.. Not all games are BW-Com- either and cannot run from just the disc

    • Handsome Jack

      Is used backwards compatibility for the 360 and ps3 will zero flaws. I don’t know what you are talking about.

  • Michael

    Lol….apparently, BC isn’t for the players.We all know the real reason no BC is coming to ps4. So you is trying to cash in on you suckers that will pay for psnow.

    • Holeybartender

      The real reason is clearly because it can’t be done because of the architecture of PS3’s Cell Processor,even non-Sony affiliates will tell you that. Your paying Microsoft to get “backwards compatibility” too,aren’t you? Don’t you have to have Xbox Live to get it anyways? I’m pretty sure you do. Read the fine print at the bottom: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility “need to have Xbox Live and broadband Internet for initial download of game.”
      Seems like Microsoft is “cashing in on you suckers” too.

    • sgt_hammertime

      stop the nonsense about the ps3 architecture. it’s all a lie they fed you.
      was it the architecture that prevented them from doing BC on the ps3 properly without ps2 hardware in the console? No.
      but now people are eating up the nonsense about how the ps3 architecture is too powerful….but yet that same architecture couldn’t emulate ps2 properly?

  • 2econd gpu unlocking

    Sony Fans would rather pay to play their old games again and praise Sony for letting them.

    • Holeybartender

      “pay to play their old games again”???
      http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility
      “need to have Xbox Live and broadband Internet for initial download of game”Probably after too.

    • Gamez Rule

      Makes me smile each time I see this.

    • Dotcum22

      So xbox live is free?

    • Lar Dub

      Actually…Xbox Live IS FREE!!! you can buy, run apps, DOWNLOAD THE BACKWARD COMPATIBLE TITLES etc. with the SILVER (free) account. All you need to do is sign up. This is what the backwards compatibility feature needs to download. an Xbox live GOLD subscription (paid) adds multiplayer, parties and the games with gold free games.

  • TPoppaPuff

    And by new games they mean remasters.

  • Mr Xrat

    Xgimps trying too hard again. Xbone’s limited emulation will end up like 360’s BC: patchy and abandoned in a year.

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    • Michael

      Your confusing things with psvita. It was the only thing abandoned….lol

    • Dotcum22

      But it’s not abandoned… So lol you are confused to

    • Valdyr

      Um, Sony said they pretty much don’t care about it anymore. They’re not deving first party for it, and the only ones supporting it are indie devs and 3rd party devs. Sony doesn’t care anymore about it.


 

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