5 Reasons Why Sony’s E3 Press Conference Was A Game Changer

Sony’s E3 conference will be remembered for ages.

Posted By | On 16th, Jun. 2015 Under Article, Feature | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


Well that was… something.

I am honestly still recovering from what we just saw. In all the annals of gaming history, I don’t think we have ever seen anything like it, and I don’t think we ever will either. People like to point to Sony’s 2013 E3 presser as a smackdown victory, but trash talking the competition never appealed to me much- I get excited by substance, not style. And when it comes to E3 conferences, the only substance that appeals to me is games, games, and more games.

Everyone always says that they will focus on games going into E3, each year. Hell, Microsoft have made it sort of a running joke at this point. But I don’t think we have ever seen as tight of a focus on games as we saw at Sony’s conference tonight. Even better, I don’t think the games in question were ever expected by anyone to ever truly exist- and be confirmed at the same conference all at once. Ladies and gentlemen, let me present to you why I thought Sony’s E3 press conference just now might have been the greatest conference of all time (a veritable 10/10 in my opinion).

THE LAST GUARDIAN, FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE, AND SHENMUE 3… ALL REAL, ALL CONFIRMED, ALL IN THE SAME CONFERENCE

At this point this conference became brutal. Sony started out with The Last Guardian, a game that until a few hours ago lived on in infamy next to only Duke Nukem Forever or Half Life 3, a game perennially in development hell, long rumored, but never quire materializing. But Sony showed it off, with a brand new gameplay section, and then confirmed that it would be launching in 2016.

That would have been enough to gain their E3 presser some major points all by itself. But no, Sony was not done yet- next up was a project that people have been waiting for since 2005, with so many teases, rumors, speculations, and dashed hopes since. Final Fantasy VII’s modern HD remaster is real, it exists, and it is coming. Sony confirmed that it would be hitting the PS4 first next year.

But wait! Are you already out of breath? Don’t worry, Sony had more! Shenmue 3, the long awaited conclusion to the saga that began and abruptly ended fifteen years ago, was announced with a Kickstarter for PS4.

The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy VII Remake, and Shenmue III- if you had told me all three would appear in the same conference a week ago, I would have laughed, and dismissed your fantasy as fan fiction. But it really happened, all three of them are real, and all three of them were confirmed at the same conference, and PS4 will be the only system where you will be able to play all of them.

This alone was enough to win Sony E3, and put this conference down in the history books.

SONY DELIVERS MICROSOFT SOME SMACKDOWNS WITHOUT ANY TRASH TALK

This pleased me greatly- as I said above, I have never been one who gets won over by trash talk. You want to deliver some smackdown to your competition, you do in a classy way, with style, with substance. And that is just what Sony did this year- with the news that Call of Duty, long a Microsoft and Xbox stronghold, will be co-branded with PlayStation going forwards, and that the PlayStation versions of the game will be getting all DLC first – the exact same deal that Microsoft has had for Xbox for almost a decade now – it was the kind of stinging smackdown for Microsoft that words cannot ever replicate. That has gotta hurt.

FOCUSING ON WHAT MATTERS

Remember last year, when Sony decided to talk about their upcoming TV show Powers for about 20 minutes for no reason? Or that time that they decided to focus on the Wonderbook of all things in the middle of their showing? Or how about that time they decided to show us how great the Move really was? E3 2015 for Sony could have been just like that- they had a brand new accessory waiting in the wings to be introduced, and they also had some new media services, such as PlayStation Vue, they could have spent time on. And yes, they did give both of these lipservice. But that is all that it was- lipservice. It was touch and go, and for the rest of the conference, we got a tight, single minded focus on just what mattered- games, games, and more games.

AMAZING NEW IPs

To be fair to Microsoft, they, too, debuted new IPs today- there was Recore, and there was also Rare’s Sea of Thieves. And both look good, both look intriguing. But none of them looked anything like the new IPs Sony delivered today, which included Guerrilla’s Horizon, a pre-historic open world action RPG with mecha dinosaurs, and Media Molecule’s Dreams, a surreal, bizarre dreamscape that lets users create, navigate, manipulate, and share their own dreamscapes with each other. New IPs are in the DNA of Sony more than any of the other platform holders, and it was good to see them debut some new ones again, after venturing into the haven of established franchises for the last few years.

THE PACING WAS JUST RIGHT

Sony is notorious for long, boring press conferences, where they often meander off topic, with overly technical or complicated financial talk that, frankly, no one in the audience actually cares about.

Thankfully, this conference was not like that at all. We already talked about how Sony kept the filler talk to a minimum above, but even more than that, they ensured that we would not linger on any one announcement for too long. A game came in, got shown off for about 3-5 minutes, and then it was on to the next thing. Games, games, games. That’s what we were promised. That’s what we got, in a tight, fast package as well.

The presentation and structure of the conference alone makes it better than most other E3 conferences, which usually fall victim to self indulgence or bloat, but the actual content of the conference, which delivered upon every fanboy’s wet dream over the last decade or so, was so completely staggeringly amazing, that there was not a single doubt ever that Sony won this E3. They won, they delivered a 10/10 conference, and in the process, they gave us a presser that will go down in the history books as the greatest one of all time.

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  • kma99

    You have got to be kidding. Half of the show was paid DLC and then send a man on stage to ask for a kickstarter fund, this site is terrible. There was nothing game changing about this conference

    • Adebayo Dare

      Haters gonna hate. Both Xbox and Playstation had 3rd party reveals. Plus Last Guardian, Horizon , Uncharted , Shenmue 3 (PS4,PC) FFVII and you say not game changing. Bruh!

    • kma99

      Hate what? I dont hate playstation. What i do hate is being asked to Kickstart a beloved game all while they pay for 70 million for timed dlc. They could have easily given that guy 3 million, it just shows how gullible gamers are.
      What about the last guardian have we not seen yet? They give no release date and the game looks dated.
      Didn’t every crucify Microsoft for timed exclusive content yet sony shows cod, star wars, hitman and assassins creed. Give me a break.

    • latinalover

      there is a date….not a complete date but a date none the less. the kickstart game shows how MANY people love that series

    • kma99

      Spring is very vague. This game has been in development to long for them to just say “spring 2016”.
      I don’t have a problem with a kickstarter but 70 million for timed DLC and you cant fork over 2 million to fund a well beloved game is insane to me.

    • latinalover

      vague or not it is still a date. they wan to see if people want this game enough to give them 2 million dollars so their backers can see it to fund them to make the game.

    • kma99

      Spring is not a date. A date consist of a day and time. We know when uncharted is coming out specifically but not this game, even after 8 years. How many times have we gotten a so called date for quantum break only for it to not show up on that DATE?

    • DarthDiggler

      @kma99:disqus

      Where are you pulling this “70 million for timed DLC” figure? I assume you mean BlackOps 3.

    • DarthDiggler

      @kma99:disqus
      Last I checked no one was holding a gun to your head to support the Kickstarter. Many games get their start there now. Obviously that title has a niche audience.

    • Gamez Rule

      S3 already hitting over two million in a few hours = wanting audience

    • Azza1

      The salt is strong with you.

    • theduckofdeath

      Zero P Horizon; more vertical slice potential vaporware that we won’t hear the end of over its next three to four years of development. Damn you, SONY. :/

  • I thought their game of show was definitely Horizon, but my biggest gripe was most of their games had no release dates at all. Yes, Last Guardian was 2016 but no mention of what month. For all we know the majority of their other titles could come in 2017, lol…

    • Devon Day

      True. Most gamers generally are upset about that, but with games like Disgaea 5, Persona 5, Hellblade, Until Dawn, EveryBodys Gone To The Rapture and others, I don’t believe Sony’s 2015 year is as sparse as some people make it out to be.

      You are right. In terms of heavy hitters, they don’t have much to fall back on, sans some remasters. However, you dig deep, you will find some gems. 😉

  • Pan86

    That was ABSOLUTELY A LEGENDARY CONFERENCE! Nothing will top it EVER! Guys took three of the most insane gamer dreams and made them real… all at once! Still thinking i saw it in a dream!!!

    ***Not to mention that Horizon, Dreams and Uncharted looked INSANE too!***

    • Gamez Rule

      IMO ( In My Opinion ) Sony took E3 and had a better showing than MS.

      Although MS stated that Xbone will have Backward Compatibilty ( which we have heard before with 360 and XBOX games ) there is only 18 games as of right now. Yes more games will be added, BUT will it go the same way as before? A few hundred games and that’s it? Time will tell I guess.

      MS showed Halo 5, Gears of war 4, Forza 6, these are Microsofts big
      hitters ( some rumored to be heading towards PC ), while Sony brought to
      the table HORIZON: Zero Dawn ( new IP ), Uncharted 4, World Of Final
      Fantasy, ( none rumored to be heading towards PC ) while loads of AAA
      games being shown at Sonys E3 had exclusive content + Betas, ect.

      Sony showed more games people wanted than MS this year and showed more VR related games too.Everyone has opinions, and mine is Sony just had the better show out the two. Final Fantasy VII Remake, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3, Uncharted 4, HORIZON: Zero Dawn, just won me over

    • kma99

      Those Microsoft games are not going to PC. There will be a xbox app that will allow you to stream your games to pc but it technically wont be coming to PC. So paying for timed exclusive content and VR is a plus ? yeah ok

    • Gamez Rule

      Forza Motorsport 6 is rumored for PC. Same as Gears 4. Time will tell.

    • kma99

      halo is rumored to but why take away your selling point if you put all your exclusives on PC? you basically just told everyone to not buy your console and stick to PC and Playstation. Where is the logic in that.

    • Gamez Rule

      Well that’s the way it goes.

      Look at Mass Effect series and how MS held onto that IP to sell consoles. Then BAM! Sonys PS3 had the IP ( that when released looked better than 360s versions )

    • kma99

      Microsoft didn’t hold onto mass effect. Bioware had an exclusive deal with Microsoft at the beginning then bioware was purchased by EA. Upon purchase EA had to pay Microsoft to make the game a multi plat. SO BAM!!! mass effect didn’t look better on ps3 and it ran like dog crap and that’s common knowledge. You know nothing about what you’re talking about and you are purposely getting off topic to save face.

    • Gamez Rule

      Not at all..

      Mass Effect was a selling point for 360. Everyone knew this. PS3 gamers wanted this series and always got told never. Then when the *MS Deal* with Bioware ended and Bio- got bought by EA they released Mass Effect definitive edition onto PS3 using an upgraded more advanced graphical engine than 360 version.

      That was a kick in the nuts to MS and 360 gamers. Some 360 gamers kicked off really bad over the release too. But what it shows is that ANY game series could land up on other platforms.

    • kma99

      LOL you are delusional. So I guess xbox one getting final fantasy 7 is a kick in the nuts to playstation owners? get out of here with that fanboy nonsense. Mass effect wasn’t a selling point for 360, Gears was the selling point along with Halo so you believe what you want lol. Who was playing mass effect when the 360 came out? everyone was playing COD. Keep making yourself believe your own lies.

    • Gamez Rule

      OMG Mass Effect was a selling point for 360. Everyone knows this. Same as Halo and Gears was as seller too. Halo being the best seller out of the three series mentioned.
      More than 70 percent of the Mass Effect franchise sales have been on the Xbox 360 so yes people played the game lol

      That’s not being delusional but truthful. As for FF VII being a kick in the nuts to PS owners ( no not really ) as the FF series had already been hitting 360 ☺

    • kma99

      Yeah dude so why did they keep gears exclusive and not mass effect? Dont worry i know the answer already. Gears was the flagship for the 360 just like halo was for the og xbox. Dont kid yourself if youre thinking otherwise. Only a blind Playstation fanboy would agree with you.

    • Gamez Rule

      Gears was also on PC ☺
      Halo was also on PC☺

      I have the games on PC. Then they went to console only.
      I have all the Gears on 360 as well as some Halo games. BUT that don’t change the fact on what I stated about Mass Effect being a selling point for MS ( as the 70% franchise sales showed )

    • kma99

      What does console sales of the game have to do with anything? It sold poorly on ps3 so what? Halo and the first gears came out on pc but whay else since then? Nothing at all because they know financially its not beneficial.

    • Gamez Rule

      Like I stated, Mass Effect was a seller for MS on Xbox 360 like I’ve explained but you stated “Mass effect wasn’t a selling point for 360”? It has been shown that it was in fact a game that people wanted and played and sold 70% of the series on 360 alone.

      And what are you on about console sales for? I never meantioned anything about console sales, I stated *Selling point for 360s* NOT console sales lol

    • DA-ROOSTER

      Forza has been rumored for years to come PC but never happened Gears Of War 4 is diffinetly a Xbox One exclusive not coming to PC i repeat not coming to PC

    • Gamez Rule

      Yet forza 6 is rumored for PC gameplay as is Gears 4. Just search it yourself. Till will tell IF they do or don’t but from experience never say never in the gaming world lol

    • Kazuo-san, is that you? Otherwise, I cannot comprehend why you would think that one of the weakest E3 press conferences ever was “LEGENDARY” and incapable of being topped, “EVER!”, even though it was topped that very day by EVERY OTHER CONFERENCE. The shill is strong in this one.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Please give us more than troll comments to go on. You haven’t mentioned ONE DAMNED DETAIL — You only telling all the people praising the PS Conference they are wrong.

      You are a trolling assclown.

    • Holster your ad hominem attacks. They have no effect on me.

      I gave plenty of details already. It boils down to this: Microsoft showed off more AAA exclusives coming THIS YEAR, more new IPs, more features, more partnerships, and more innovation than Sony.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      I don’t suffer fools easily. I have no patience for people that just declare things. Bring the details man, I have already explained my points of view above. You just trolling this place acting like you have central potion and my reaction to that is you are an assclown.

      I will stop the ad hominems when you actually say something intelligent that contains actual details.

    • I already did. And I even gave you the terms to Ctrl + F search for and an exact time of posting.

  • Starman

    @GAMINGBOLT…..explain to me how that smoke and mirrors , thirdparty multiplat fest was legendary … how much does Sony pay you to mislead and attempt to brainwash fans … that show was the weakest all day .. lol what a fkn joke .

    They had one decent game , not legendary just decent (Horizon) and you’ll went ape-sht over it .. that’s because everything else was horrible ..

    • Gamez Rule

      “that show was the weakest all day”…Yeah Right☺

    • Not only was it the weakest all day, it was the weakest in years.

    • Gamez Rule

      Yeah ok IF you say so☺

    • I would know. I’ve followed every E3 since 1995.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      With that level of history I am shocked you are so uninformed.

    • I’m not. Everyone else seemingly is, though. Either that or they have dementia and can’t remember anything past an hour before Sony’s 2015 press conference.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Oddly enough you haven’t said anything that contains any useful information. Funny others are recounting details and you are just declaring them to be biased. LOL

      Go away troll. Isn’t your mother calling you?

    • I did, actually. See my comment above: “Seriously. It’s like…”.
      Pointing out the absurdity of Sony fanboys’ blindness does not make me a troll. However, you calling me one makes you a troll.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      You must be thinking of another thread. I did a page search for the term Seriously and that comment you just posted above was the only hit unless it was rolled up.

    • Nope. It’s this thread. I’m staring at it right now. It was posted 38 minutes ago.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Kindly copy and paste this mystery comment of yours that seems to contain all the details! Funny I managed to put details in to more than one comment, but I am someone who likes to deal with facts and reality.

    • I don’t spam message boards with repeat posts. Learn how to ‘refresh’ your browser and try again.

    • Gamez Rule

      And that proves what exactly?

      Sony showed more games than MS at E3 with games that people wanted for ages and they delivered so much so that the news has spread all over the net ( more than MS E3 showing )

    • It proves I’m informed.

      Your second paragraph is merely a canard. Microsoft demoed way more AAA exclusives, and way more that are actually coming soon (i.e. this year). This has been the cast for the past three E3 conferences, actually.

    • Mark

      It’s funny how these dudes always “gang up” on people. Most of them spend their time on DualShockers lol. Don’t worry, backward compat they can never damage control. Sad souls..

    • Gamez Rule

      Like I posted above., Most of what MS showed is either rumored for PC or is also for PC like Gears of War Ultimate Edition / Sea of Thieves / Fable Legends, ect.

      Sony showed more games than MS at E3 with games that people wanted for ages and they delivered so much so that the news has spread all over the net ( more than MS E3 showing )

    • Gears of War Ultimate Edition, Sea of Thieves, Fable Legends, etc. are not PC games: they’re Windows 10 Xbox games, only available in the Windows 10 Store (the same Store that powers Xbox One’s Store), with Xbox Live running them. Ergo, they’re Xbox exclusives. Microsoft no longer distinguishes between devices: all Windows 10 devices can run Xbox games.
      Sony did not show more games than MS at E3. Sony has zero–ZERO–AAA exclusives releasing this year. Microsoft has seven–count ’em, SEVEN–coming.
      I don’t know what Internet you’re reading, but no mainstream news outlets are even talking about Sony’s conference. The only thing they’re talking about is HoloLens Minecraft.

    • Gamez Rule

      LMAO☺

      Can I play Fable Legends on PC ( without the Xbone console )?

    • Can you play it without an Xbox account? Nope. Ergo, it’s an Xbox game.
      Xbox is bigger than Xbox One. I’ve explained this to you several times now. You’re living in an outdated reality. I play Xbox games on my Lumia, on my Surface, on my PC, and on my Xbox One. They’re all Xbox games.

    • Gamez Rule

      That was not my question. So I will ask again.

      Can I play Fable Legends on PC ( without the Xbone console )?

      IF yes I can do. Then that makes Xbone unneeded. Hence PC gamers can play ( without using Xbone ) games that were once only on consoles

    • It’s called the Xbox One, not the “xbone”. Don’t be a tool.
      Your question is irrelevant. You haven’t needed an Xbox console to play Xbox games since 2010. Gamers on Windows Phone have been playing Xbox games since 2010; gamers on Windows RT and Windows 8 have been playing Xbox games on tablets and computers since 2012.
      It’s a very simple concept: you cannot play Fable Legends without an Xbox account. Ergo, it’s an Xbox exclusive.

    • Gamez Rule

      X1 / XOne/ Xbone all = Xbox one just short versions. Xbone = XB One sinmple as that. I will call it as it is.

      My question is far from irrelevant, and you stated… “You haven’t needed an Xbox console to play Xbox games since 2010”.. So where can I play Gears of war 3 without a Xbox console then?

    • The first two are. The third one is pejorative, and you know that. It reveals you as an obnoxious and juvenile fanboy. Show some respect for the people who worked hard creating the system. You want to abbreviate, there are plenty of non-pejorative ones (X1, XB1).

      Your Gears of War 3 question fulfills one of the basic fallacies one learns about in Logic 101. You can’t play Halo: Spartan Strike on Xbox One. Does that mean it’s not an Xbox game? Nope. It is. It’s just an Xbox game on Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8. You can’t possibly be that obtuse to still not grasp that concept.

    • Gamez Rule

      It’s known as Xbone. Simple as that, and by calling it that doesn’t reveal people as obnoxious or juvenile fanboys, to even think that is childish IMO☺

      You stated.. “You haven’t needed an Xbox console to play Xbox games since 2010”.. well that’s just BS and you know it as otherwise I could play Gears Of War 3 without a console couldn’t I? But fact is I NEED a 360 to play the game ( until another platform allows gameplay of that game )

    • Only among disrespectful trolls.
      Gears of War 3 is one Xbox game. There are many Xbox games that aren’t available on Xbox 360. There are many Xbox games not available on Xbox One. There are many Xbox games available on neither Xbox 360 nor Xbox One nor the original Xbox. Those Xbox games are only available on Windows Phone, Windows 8, and Windows RT. Capiche? Probably not.

    • Gamez Rule

      So yes people did need consoles to play console games that were not on other *platforms*. Question answered.

      The platforms that can play Fable Legends as of now are Xbone and PC via windows 10. Now windows 10 will be on other platforms but unable to play that game ( due to releasing onto Xbone or PC platforms )

      This means that people with PC can play play Fable Legends without the need of a console ( like I’ve pointed out many times ) and the same goes for ALL games that support PC via Windows 10.

      Are MS shooting themselves in the foot by allowing PC gamers to enjoy games that were once known as console only games *reguarding the Xbone in sales* time will tell.

    • Xbox is one platform. You’re confusing devices with platforms, but Xbox has been device-agnostic since 2010.
      No, the platform–singular–that can play Fable Legends is called Xbox. The devices you can use to access that game on that platform is a console called an Xbox One or a personal computer running Windows 10 that satisfies the minimum specs.
      Shooting themselves in the foot? No. They’re doing what they should’ve done years ago: bringing PC gamers into the Xbox platform by bringing the Xbox platform to the PC. The only things dumb about it are that 1. they didn’t do it years ago, and 2. you are too obtuse to understand what they’re actually doing.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      You are obviously biased so your opinion is disqualified from a reasonable discussion. 🙂

    • Actually, I’m not biased. I’m one of the few objective outsiders here.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Saying that Sony’s was the weakest in years is an obviously biased statement. There have been some real stinkers over the years Nintendo has done some very craptasic shows.

      You can’t simply declare yourself objective it helps if you actually act that way too. 🙂

    • It’s not a biased statement. It is an informed one. Sony’s conference boiled down to mulitplats, puny DLC exclusivity deals, finally showing a game announced a decade ago, announcing one new IP (hooray!)–something that every one of the big three have done more of at every single E3 of the past decade–and announced a non-exclusive remake of a two-decade-old game and a Kicsktarter for a non-exclusive game that is 2.5 years away. There is nothing impressive about that conference. If anything, it was embarrassing for them.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Funny you didn’t see the same show everyone else did. Sure you were watching the right stream bucko?

    • Your comment has zero substance to it. Please only respond to me if you actually have something of weight to say.

    • 54nakaD

      Then you truly are not a gamer and like brainless FPS games.

    • otherZinc

      @Starman,

      I agree completely!

      For the last 2 years it’s been; the PS4 can do 1080p 60fps, the XBOX ONE can’t. Now that that’s been proven false, there’s no mention of it. Halo 5, Forza Motorsport 6, Fable Legends are all 1080p 60fps. Meanwhile, not 1 PS4 Exclusive is 1080p 60fps.

      M$ announced what every gamer in the world wanted; Backwards Compatability; now, it isn’t important.

      Sony shows the PS2 version of The Last Guardian & the Media acts as if that didn’t happen.

      Whatever, Halo 5 will outsell the entire exclusive library by double. Then XBOX ONE owners will play the best games shown at Sonys conference: COD, Assassin’s Creed, Destiny.

      So, continue misleading the public, hope they don’t have a friend with an XBOX ONE. Then, GamingBolt gets exposed with the rest of the media.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_pTrTB3Ndtu:disqus

      You are going to bring up the resolution debate even though 9 out of 10 multiplatform games perform better on PS4?

      Don’t be so naive and obviously biased.

    • You clearly didn’t understand what his argument was.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      You clearly can’t read. So you are like 0 for 2 on demonstrating you have any IQ.

      otherZinc said…

      For the last 2 years it’s been; the PS4 can do 1080p 60fps, the XBOX ONE can’t. Now that that’s been proven false

      No one at Sony ever made the claims that Xbox One could not produce 1080p / 60fps so otherZinc’s foundation for his argument is nonsense.

      Forza 5 was running 1080p / 60fps so I don’t understand how otherZinc feels this years E3 vindicates MS, they were already achieving those benchmarks on the launch of the Xbox One.

      The whole debate about resolution and frame rate was purely a comparison debate. 90% of multiplatform games have either a higher resolution or frame rate or both on PS4. This has been proven with countless multiplatform games.

      I understand the argument perfectly. OtherZinc does not.

    • For the past 1.5 years Sony fanboys have disparaged the Xbox One’s capabilities to output at 1080p/60fps. His point was that that critique is largely unfounded, especially now. Your response was a non-sequitur, digressing about how multiplatforms perform better on PS4, which was not what he was talking about.

      That isn’t what his comments were about; that’s how you interpreted them. Furthermore, you demonstrate your lack of understanding about the debate by oversimplifying it. Yes, the PS4 versions of games have tended to have higher resolution or frames per second, but this has come at the expense of other things (better lighting and textures, more consistent frame rate) that perform better on X1.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      OK I have to repeat myself since you are extremely slow and you BTW you don’t know what non sequitur is. 🙂

      No one at Sony ever said that the Xbox One couldn’t do 1080p 60fps. So otherZinc’s comment “For the last 2 years it’s been; the PS4 can do 1080p 60fps, the XBOX ONE can’t.” is a 100% strawman argument. Furthermore that statement is so obtuse it can’t be true all the time, so if ANYONE was saying that — WHY would ANYONE take it seriously?

      The whole resolution debate was started because Xbox One’s multiplatform games could not maintain pace with the same game on PS4. Often the resolution was lower or the frame rate was lower. In some cases BOTH were lower.

      There are no comparisons between first party games since first party games will only come out on the platform they were designed on.

      Did I explain it well enough that time for you to comprehend it or do you need it in “I can read” format? The whole foundation of otherZinc’s comment about the resolution debate is incorrect, thus the entire premise is incorrect.

      Now watch I bet you use the term strawman now. Shall I teach you all the logical fallacies?

    • Gamez Rule

      ☺☺☺

    • I’m sure you do know about every fallacy; you’re certainly guilt of several of them on this thread alone.

      This has nothing to do with what anyone at Sony said. He wasn’t talking about Sony. He was talking about ignorant fanboys and journalists online, and they are more than guilty of saying those things. You’re lost.

    • Seriously. It’s like Sony invested more money in paying shills online than in actually having a decent E3. I’ve been following E3 for decades. Never missed a single one. And this was one of the weakest conferences I’ve ever seen. It was essentially them having nothing substantial coming soon so they slurped up the sloppy seconds from Xbox that is Call of Duty, finally showed footage of a game they announced a fricken decade ago, showed off one new IP that isn’t coming any time soon, showed off a remake of a 20-year-old non-exclusive game, and provided a link to a Kickstarter game that has never been on a Playstation console and is more associated with Xbox.
      Meanwhile, Microsoft demoed a ton of AAA exclusives that are coming THIS YEAR of huge franchises (Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Motorsport 6, Fable Legends, Gigantic), announced brand new IP (Sea of Thieves, ReCore), announced excellently priced value games (Gears of War Ultimate, Rare Replay), announced a new controller, backwards compatibility, modding, early access, free games (Fallout 3 with Fallout 4, EA Access unlimited for a week), new partnerships (VR stuff), and then revealed one of the most impressive demos any of us have ever seen, ever, in the HoloLens Minecraft.
      But, hey, let’s completely ignore all that and extol Sony for the weakest showing in years, highlighted by a game that won’t come out for 2.5 more years (which now seems like nothing compared to the decade-long wait of the Last Guardians–but I guess they’re just trying to live up to the Greatness aWaits slogan…).

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_tpOqHGvHlR:disqus

      Horizon looks awesome. Sony’s show was on point. I haven’t finished watching MS’s yet, but by the time I hit the hour mark I hadn’t seen anything that surprised me with the exception of Backwards Compatibility.

    • “I haven’t finished watching MS’s yet”.
      Ah, so now the truth behind your ignorance comes out. You’re uninformed!

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      I got passed the sizzle reel which means only 1 more announcement left and they already did Halo, Forza prior to the sizzle reel. I did love the look of Cuphead, that actually impressed me the most. ReCore looked kind of cool but they didn’t really dig into it too much.

      At least I can explain in detail what I saw. I am not just declaring you wrong because I feel that I am the center of the gaming universe.

      Not everyone can be a know-it-all-assclown like yourself! 🙂 Some of us actually pay attention and take in details. 🙂

      Notice how I can point out with details the few things I did like about the MS conference? Notice how I didn’t just declare myself correct and you wrong? Take notes here, this is how grown-ups talk. 🙂

    • As I said to you already, my comment immediately below this one already delineated why I thought the Sony conference was underwhelming and the Microsoft conference was underrated. I’m not going to spam the board by reposting it.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Instead of reiterating that you are aware of the details you keep calling out one comment on this page that I can’t seem to find via a search.

      Either put up or shut up, I don’t have time to chat with asshats that seemingly have no details of yesterdays events while simultaneously declaring anyone who disagrees with me in the wrong while providing no foundation to that argument.

      EDIT I finally found it!

    • Since you don’t know how to refresh a browser:

      (posted 2 hours ago)
      “Seriously. It’s like Sony invested more money in paying shills online than in actually having a decent E3. I’ve been following E3 for decades. Never missed a single one. And this was one of the weakest conferences I’ve ever seen. It was essentially them having nothing substantial coming soon so they slurped up the sloppy seconds from Xbox that is Call of Duty, finally showed footage of a game they announced a fricken decade ago, showed off one new IP that isn’t coming any time soon, showed off a remake of a 20-year-old non-exclusive game, and provided a link to a Kickstarter game that has never been on a Playstation console and is more associated with Xbox.

      “Meanwhile, Microsoft demoed a ton of AAA exclusives that are coming THIS YEAR of huge franchises (Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Motorsport 6, Fable Legends, Gigantic), announced brand new IP (Sea of Thieves, ReCore), announced excellently priced value games (Gears of War Ultimate, Rare Replay), announced a new controller, backwards compatibility, modding, early access, free games (Fallout 3 with Fallout 4, EA Access unlimited for a week), new partnerships (VR stuff), and then revealed one of the most impressive demos any of us have ever seen, ever, in the HoloLens Minecraft. Seriously. Microsoft showed us holographic gaming–HOLOGRAPHIC GAMING!

      “But, hey, let’s completely ignore all that and extol Sony for the weakest showing in years, highlighted by a game that won’t come out for 2.5 more years (which now seems like nothing compared to the decade-long wait of the Last Guardians–but I guess they’re just trying to live up to the Greatness aWaits slogan…).”

    • Azza1

      Salty.

  • JD

    I own a PS4 not an XBOX One and I have to say Microsoft blew away Sony! Really!

    • Lucas Cage

      i watched the MS showcase out of boredom and even i gotta admit they tore Sony apart in comparison. Sony focused on games that wont see the light of day for a few months to year. MS was announcing stuff that was going into effect in a few days to months. Backwards compatibility, cross platform mods. Final Fantasy and COD do NOT top announcements like that.

    • DarthDiggler

      @lucas_cage:disqus @disqus_37y5ILFhLb:disqus

      I don’t know what you guys are talking about. Sony’s games were far more impressive regardless of release date. MS really didn’t show much of any first party studio stuff that was really that impressive.

      The backwards compatibility is a nice feature, but I don’t see that driving people’s choices of consoles this holiday. The mods sound cool too, but was that announced a 100% exclusive feature to Xbox and PC? If not that feature will likely come to PS4 too.

    • You clearly didn’t even watch the Microsoft conference. There is no way anyone in a right state of mind could’ve watched that HoloLens Minecraft demo and concluded that it was not “impressive”. Yet you’re lapping up Sony’s multiplatform, games-that-will-come-years-from-now unoriginal bore-fest. Are you effing kidding me?

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      I saw the Halolens demo months ago. So it wasn’t that big of a deal at E3. MS really should have “saved” more for E3. Sony had some real surprises.

      I am not saying Halolens is not impressive, as a matter of fact check my other comment, I specifically said it was impressive. At the end of the day I am not sold on any of this VR stuff.

      MS’s E3 showcase was mostly stuff you heard about months before E3. 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      Microsoft HoloLens Demonstration Shows off Holographic Minecraft, Apps, and More ( YOUTUBE ) = Jan 2015

    • It’s HoloLens, not HaloLens. And the demo revealed yesterday was significantly different and more advanced than the teaser shown in January. Also, HoloLens isn’t VR. It’s AR.

    • ShoNuff

      Gamescom is coming up. they only had 90 minutes and ran out of time. I am sure the same for Sony. As for Nintendo I am not sure how they even filled up their time slot,

    • Lucas Cage

      regardless of release date? basically they gave you a preview of next years E3. A lot of those games wont be out for awhile. Xbox has halo coming out in october. I’ve never owned an Xbox in my life but Gears 4 looked good, and Halo was pretty nice looking as well (but I’m a nathan fan so there is that).
      You don’t see backwards compatibility driving someone’s choices? Weird. Because Sony is currently charging for that service with Playstation Now. So I think MS one upped a PS feature there. And i know for a fact I’ve heard plenty people complain about backwards compatibility on PS4. Most people just got used to it i guess. And yea cross platform mods is an MS exclusive. I believe that service is free as well aside from the price of the mod.

    • Gamez Rule

      “cross platform mods is an MS exclusive”.. No it’s not. Fallout 4 mods will be coming to PS4 as an example

    • Where’s your source for that claim?

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      I just Googled it. Looks like PS4 will get the mods too. Sony already allowed mods on PS3 with Unreal 3, so they do have some history as precedent.

    • Jason Mounce

      Realistically, if Sony can make it so DayZ (And the creator, who’s a huge dude about ‘Freedom’ and modding rights) can get access to PS4, and even potentially Star Citizen in the near-future (who knows) then I can’t see modding w/ Fallout 4 being far-fetched.

    • ShoNuff

      Just to keep your expectations realistic they said they would never release star citizen on a platform that meant they had to dumb it down from the pc version. that means consoles….

    • Jason Mounce

      You act like I actually had expectations that it’d happen lol

      I know they’re hardcore PC-Elitist-stroking, but you never know that they could port it – you could translate what they said to also somewhat mean what the devs behind Warframe said. That when they’d do porting to any consoles, PC still comes first no matter what and no Console-issues will drag PC behind, etc.

      It’s either flat out nope or, the future will simply show even with the PC-Snob-stroking

    • ShoNuff

      I have the game. I am just not sure how much they would have to downgrade it to run on a console and keep the same experience. I am sure they would insist on flight sticks being made available as well since that is part of the experience of the game…..BTW if you haven’t seen it in motion its amazing.

    • Jason Mounce

      I have the game. I bought the Bounty Hunter pack long long ago w/ the Avenger ship ($75). 😛 (Cause I wanted to be a Space pirate who plundered ships, and it’s the smoothest ship around, she be a smooth, slender, sexy ship!

      But yeah, course – they’d have to downgrade it in some form or another – mostly likely physics quantity, shaders, draw distance and have it 1080p/30fps. ‘IF’ they ever were to do it at some point.

    • Gamez Rule

      BethesdaGameStudios themselves

      #Fallout4 mod sharing (from PC) coming after launch to Xbox One in early 2016. We hope to bring it to PS4, too. #BE3

    • Lucas Cage

      the mods made and sold on pc can be utilized on xbox one games. all of them. is ps4 doing that?

    • Gamez Rule

      Why couldn’t PS4 do it? It’s going to be doing it with Fallout 4.

      And you stated “mods made and sold on pc can be utilized on xbox one games. *all of them*

      Where is your info as I’m sure that not ALL mods with work with Xbone games.

    • Lucas Cage

      where is there evidence that it plans to do it? MS was the only one to even address it. all i see is ‘expectations’ for ps4 where as xbox has actually confirmed it. if sony announces it then that’s great but as of this moment it’s fact vs rumor

    • Orion Wolf

      This is the actual reply from Bethesda in regards to mods on the ps4

      https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/610567108913553408

      That “we hope” implies they’re not sure about it.

    • Lucas Cage

      i’ll edit my comment after sony confirms but so far that is basically a ‘in discussion’. presently xbox is the only one solidified. that was all i’m saying. sony can have a million things on deck to announce within the next few months but based off e3 announcements xbox won.

    • Gamez Rule

      Bethesda Game Studios chief Todd Howard has said the PlayStation 4 version of Fallout 4 will, like the Xbox One version, support mods made with the PC version

      Howard told Geoff Keighley on his YouTube Live show that the Creation Kit modding tool will come to the PC version of Fallout 4 after the game launches this November. He suggested it will be released on PC early 2016, then shortly after on Xbox One, then on PS4.

      The official Bethesda Game Studios Twitter account followed up Howard’s comments, saying the studio “hopes” to bring mod sharing from PC to PS4.

    • Lucas Cage

      Well which is it? Either it will or the studio ‘hopes’ to bring mod sharing to PS4. Might just be me but that sounded like a confirmation right up until the last sentence which backpedals it into ‘still not confirmed’ territory.

    • Gamez Rule

      It will come to PS4. Why wouldn’t it? Sony allowed modding before on PS3 so why not nowadays. That’s how I see it.

    • Lucas Cage

      Sony allowed backwards compatibility and free online play on ps3 as well lol i cant believe something exists for sony until it’s announced.

    • Orion Wolf

      I’m an x1 fan, but the Sony show was moderately good, imo. The things I’m looking forward to is the Horizon game and UC4, maybe a few other games … whenever they are released, but the kickstarter thing was a disgrace, imo.

    • Lucas Cage

      i’ve never owned an xbox and i upgraded from ps3 to ps4 so if anything i SHOULD by definition be a sony fanboy but i gotta admit that MS had an impressive showcase. Holograms, backwards compatibility, mod sharing and some nice games as well. The only thing PS4 got my interest with was UC4 gameplay and that arkham knight trailer i saw online a few hours ago (guess i missed that). Outside of that it was meh. It wasn’t horrible but it didn’t hold a candle to what MS was talking about. If PS4 went backwards compatible I have no doubt it would have set the net on fire. I, personally, would have been ecstatic to no end.

    • Orion Wolf

      Agreed.

      I don’t really mind who won, as both shows did deliver some really good stuff, but the BC was one of the things everyone was asking about all the way from e3 2013 (both camps). Sony went with PS Now, Microsoft went with something that’s, imho, what anyone would want i.e. playing the games you own directly (as in no streaming) and without having to pay for them.

      That to me is miles ahead than what PS Now is offering (I would say the same if the roles were reversed). It’s a very good reason as to why people would upgrade. And if you’re a first time xbox owners (or console owner in general) well even better, as you would instantly get a huge and quite cheap gaming library.

      Hopefully this will stir Sony in doing something similar.

    • Lucas Cage

      agreed. top to bottom. i agree with it all. *shakes hand* i think we are done here lol

    • ShoNuff

      Horizon looked pretty good.

    • kevin mole

      hidden xbox zealot.

    • Mark

      Yup. I can’t believe people aren’t barking @ Sony for not funding development, wow. We know what’d happen if it were Microsoft….

    • Orion Wolf

      That thing was a F disgrace, how did Sony let something like that happen is beyond me and even more so the people defending that sort of thing.

      Yeah if MS did that the internet would continue to implode for the next few years.

    • Gamez Rule

      Sony and PlayStation is definitely a partner in this game,” Sony PlayStation’s director of third party production and developer relations Gio Corsi. “It’s going be run through third-party production. We’re going to help YsNet get the game done. We’re going to be partners on it the whole way.

    • Mark

      C’mon man, Sony’s cheapin out here. The game’s not only a kickstarter, but it’s getting “third party support”……kinda like how Sony did with the USF4 port. Sure. And what I mean by “funding developement” is u know, like how they funded The Order, or Bloodborne, or any regular exclusive……not, a, kickstarter dude. Basically Shenmue 3 doesn’t happen if u guys don’t individually donate. If ur ok with that fine, but it’s clear to me Sony chose 3rd party multiplat DLC (COD, Batman, Star Wars stuff), over Shenmue and maybe others. It appears they’re taking the Xbox360 way…..

    • Gamez Rule

      Either way it still shows that the games and DLC deals are coming to PS4 first, so no matter what people think about how Sony done things all what counts is the support developers are getting while bring the games to Sony platforms before other platforms.

      It worked out fine for S3 and BO3 a win win for Sony gamers

    • Mark

      So because a system gets DLC first, or a game first, that should sway someone into buying it? Not full exclusivity?!

    • Gamez Rule

      Yes. It used to be ok for MS to have the DLC before Sony, and it proved to sell consoles too. But now PS4 is the most wanted games consoles when compared to Xbone the rights on the DLC for BO3 has changed hands. ( Tables have turned ) and everyone knows that BO3 sells consoles☺

      Sony done good.

      Consider this. Windows 10 & Online will be free on PC. So why would people buy games on Xbone when the games are also on PC. Why even buy the console itself if it doesn’t have exclusives like it used too?

    • Mark

      So ur happy & excited about Sony selling more consoles, as it, I guess, gives u guys DLC first?! Woowwww. I gotta leave this topic alone now lol. Cheers

    • Gamez Rule

      But it’s not just about DLC coming first is it. It’s about having ALL the three games on PS4 with some DLC coming 1st on PS4

    • Mark

      Dude stop, the DLC will hit the Xbox soon after, I’ll get what u get. When the X1 got DLC first, u prolly couldn’t care less lol. Just stop, it’s only first DLC….I’m done with that topic

    • Gamez Rule

      I bought a 360 console because most DLC hit the hardware first. So people will do the same thing with PS4. You’ll see.

    • Mark

      Sure….

    • Gamez Rule

      It’s true.

      Anyway just look at the Black Ops sales and money earned within a few weeks of release then tell me Sony made a mistake on grabbing Black Op 3 DLC. I posted the figures at top of page.

    • Mark

      Won’t argue with this anymore. DLC for the win. I hear u

    • StormRaging

      That’s not confirmed. They just stated today that they “hope” to be able to bring them but it’s not confirmed yet.

    • DarthDiggler

      @lucas_cage:disqus

      Halo is in it’s 5th game. LOL was anyone shocked that it would be featured at E3? NO! Same with Gears.

      Just because I don’t think people are going to buy XB1 for the backwards compatibility doesn’t mean I think people will buy PS4 for PS Now. That is just non sequitur logic you are employing.

      Sony charges for PS Now because it uses remote resources.

      How can people complain about Backwards Compatibility on PS4 when the PS4 doesn’t have any Backwards Compatibility? PS Now is a cloud based service. Backwards Compatibility is a local feature. Words and terminology have meaning — learn them! 🙂

      I have not heard anyone say that Fallout Mods are an Xbox One console exclusive. Fact is PS3 supported Mods on Unreal 3 so it’s not like they don’t have the ability to do it for Fallout. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out after E3 PS4 will support Mods too, but that is just my speculation.

    • Lucas Cage

      People complained about backwards compatibility on PS4 because it DID NOT HAVE IT! They wanted it. And didn’t get it. That is fact because that is why Sony started streaming old games for a price on PS4. And you know what MS did yesterday? They said ‘charge? nah bruh. native backwards compatibility hence forth. Free. Enjoy’. *drop mic and walk off stage* Regardless of terminology both basically serve the same purpose. Play last gen games on a next gen system. And now for a quiz. Which one costs more? It’s not even a debate. Free service always beats priced subscription that DOESN’T rely on internet connection.
      What we are talking about is the concrete, real world, confirmed information not what you think Sony will do in the near future. As it stands, XB1 pulled the trigger officially on mods and Sony hasn’t.

    • kevin mole

      were you watching the right e3 mate you xbox zealots I don’t know.

    • kevin mole

      really you don’t own a Xbox one right and if bullshit could bounce you would be on the moon.

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Sony reveals games that will be playable in 2016 -2017
    Microsoft reveals games that are playable this fall plus the Xbox One is now backwards compatible without having to pay a subscription like PlayStation Now but you still say Sony won E3 lol you guys are diffinetly biased

    • extremely biased. Ever since the Xbox1 reveal (which was terrible), everyone hates MS lol. Competition is great. Just look what it got us, backwards compatibility.

    • DarthDiggler

      @rockhardnutsack:disqus

      For one Sony hasn’t ruled out backwards compatibility for PS4. It’s not like Microsoft has a real proprietary advantage there. I am of the opinion that BC is something everyone wants but few people use. I had the PS3 with the PS2 chip in it. 100% backwards compatible. I played 2 PS2 games. After that I was PS3 all in. I will grant you that trophy and achievement hunters may find the feature more useful.

    • Ok dude. anyways…I was hoping for some bloodborne dlc showcase too. Guessing maybe Gamescon?

    • Psionicinversion

      no cus they arent going

    • :'(

    • DarthDiggler

      @kirkdaroostergordon:disqus

      Not at all, Last Guardian was a huge reveal. Horizon looks amazing and I saw nothing else like it at E3 from ANYONE. No Man Sky showcased just how big their game is. Final Fantasy VII is huge news and FF fans have been foaming at the mouth for that since the announcement of PS3. Uncharted 4 continues to impress.

      Sure there was a bunch of DLC announcements, but that war was started by Microsoft, you can’t just expect Sony not to respond with their own deals. The Black Ops 3 deal is a slap in the face to Xbox fans and showcases how the tables have turned.

      MS didn’t do bad, it wasn’t like all their titles were slated for this year. Many of the most ambitious ones are 2016 maybe even 2017. The controller looks wild, but at $149 I don’t think you will have many people picking it up. Backwards compatibility is cool but they only have 20 games today that support it they are looking to have 100 by the holiday. We shall see how that plays out.

      Most of the 2015 stuff for MS and Sony was 3rd party.

  • kevin mole

    the sony press conference was the best I have ever seen it was nothing short of awesome god even after iit the ign panel were going nuts never seen anything like it.

    • I’m pissed there was no mention of a God of War 4…..smfh

    • DarthDiggler

      ME TOO!

  • G-Boogie

    ….and every “Dream Come True” announcement had no street date. And where are they’re games for Holiday 2015?!!

  • Jason Mounce

    Sony finally shedding light that FF7 Remake is infact happening, even if not an Exclusive [/Timed] was enough for me to simply label them the victors, I’d definitely kill for a FF7 remake that has the same combat as FF15.

    • Psionicinversion

      it would need to be completely rebuilt from the ground up with a combat system like FF15. Theres no chance of that

    • Jason Mounce

      Not sure if you’re viewing the same thing that I am, do you actually think that the FF7 Remake isn’t being rebuilt from the ground up?

      I don’t think you understand what’s going on. You’re acting like them remaking FF7 on the engine they’re using for FF15 (Luminous) is somehow, magically, an impossibility?…

    • Psionicinversion

      no it wont be rebuilt from the ground up, theyll make some fancy new CGI and slap on a HD texture pack. If they redid it like FF15 it wouldnt be FF7 anymore

    • Jason Mounce

      That is your mere assumption, and it seems quite pessimistic rather than logical. You should keep it to yourself since you have nothing concrete beyond your cynicism.

      And if they redid it with FF15-like gameplay, that does not magically make it ‘Not FF7’. FF7 is not ‘FF7’ because it’s a turn-based game, it’s because of the characters, plot and story. (Cause apparently, a Genre is what ‘Makes’ a game.)

      I’ll leave you alone now because I can tell disputing something so simple is a waste of my time 🙂

    • Psionicinversion

      ah well , i guess youll be disappointed the most

    • DarthDiggler

      @psionicinversion:disqus

      What evidence do you have to support your point of view? What we were treated to yesterday looked like a ground up remake.

      Did you miss this part of the trailer?

    • Psionicinversion

      hahaha thats was CGI and has absoluetly nothing to do with the game. Until they show actual gameplay take it as more BS

    • DarthDiggler

      READ! 🙂 Sound it out slowly!

    • Psionicinversion

      I’d wait to see what it really looks like

    • Gamez Rule

      Did you see that *CGI* in the original game?.. No you didn’t which shows that it was made fron the ground up…yes?

    • Psionicinversion

      It’s easier making cgi than it is doing it an entire game

    • Gamez Rule

      Ok. God Of War *remastered version* changed the game but left the CGI as the OLD version. This Final Fantasy VII *Remake version* changed the CGI. So why would they only update the CGI, and not the game? That wouldn’t make sense lol

    • Psionicinversion

      not alot does in this world

    • Announcing a non-exclusive remake of an overrated, 20-year-old game that they don’t even own is enough to snag victory but doing something that has never been done before in gaming history–holographic gaming–isn’t? Okay, Jason, you’re exactly what is wrong with the contemporary gamer. SMH.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      LOL @ Halographic gaming. Google did that kind of crap with Google Goggles years ago. Just superimposing things over real life has been done to death. It’s call ARG. I am not saying that Halolens isn’t impressive, but it wasn’t something that MS Saved for E3. They released that info long ago.

    • Psionicinversion

      long ago hahah they only did 1 demo not long ago. wow yeah years ago hahaha

    • DarthDiggler

      @psionicinversion:disqus

      The point is they didn’t save it for E3. Which IMHO was stupid.

    • Not stupid at all, actually: they want developers to make apps for it, so they have to announce it as soon as they can, which is what they did.

    • Psionicinversion

      why would they? it was a product release based around alot of other areas apart from gaming and the main on stage demo was using AR to build a gyrocopter. other ares focused on real time manipulation of a 3D model your building in Maya or something.

      E3 is for games Hololens is for alot more stuff

    • It’s holographic, not halographic. Google Glass was a miserable failure and is nothing like HoloLens. Nothing like this has ever been done before, let alone “done to death” (seriously, do you even think before you write?). They announced HoloLens in January and gave a teaser demo, but nothing like the hands-on Minecraft demo that they debuted yesterday. It was mind-blowing.

    • DarthDiggler

      @coip:disqus

      Please learn to read and comprehend what people say. I grow tired of your selective comprehension!

      I am saying the base technology of Hololens has it’s history in ARG smart phone apps. If you can’t see why that statement is obviously true you are truly an MS Schill.

      The showed HoloLens being used with Minecraft the same time they announced it. They showed MORE at E3, but they didn’t really show too much new about the tech.

      EDIT — Don’t get me wrong this is still cool tech, but I am still on the fence about VR. Morepheus looks kind of cool but I am not convinced as of this time.

    • That’s not true: none of those previous ARG devices had a holographic computing unit (HCU) inside them. They are not the same thing. Stop spreading FUD.
      No, they didn’t. They showed a concept that looked like Minecraft (and they were very clear in stating that it wasn’t Minecraft [read the press reports at that time]). It wasn’t until yesterday that they actually announced and actually demoed Minecraft for HoloLens.
      This isn’t VR. This is AR.

    • DarthDiggler

      From the January 21st video.

    • I don’t need a link to a video of an event I watched live.

    • Jason Mounce

      Boy, someone’s mighty toxic and wildly defensive I see. Did I hit a sore area? Perhaps one of those insecure ‘Xbots’ I keep hearing about. If I’m what’s wrong with the ‘contemporary gamer’ – where, I’m merely a person who’s glad to see a game get remade that’s considered a Classic for MILLIONS of people and those of us who grew up playing these gems. That somehow, me being happy that a game is being remade makes me ‘Whats wrong with the gaming industry’? What about people like you, the toxic, the redundantly-hostile, the short-tempered and vile little petty children who attack strangers over the internet for enjoying something that has no affect over your life? I can’t have an opinion of my own without some pseudo-intellectual twit clamouring to me and claiming that ‘I’m’ what’s wrong with the modern-day gamer? Where all I said was that I was glad ‘Sony Shed Light on the FF7 Remake’? XD. Good grief.

      Sorry kiddo. I’m an older gamer and I’ve been playing games since you were likely in diapers, if there’s one thing that’s wrong with ‘Gamers’ these days, it’s Toxic, self-entitled whiners like yourself who have to drag everyone down to your miserable level. Good day and don’t forget to eat your veggies 🙂

      Apply cold water to the burned area and begone. ‘SMH’

      Oh, and P.S. your profile description: “The world’s greatest videogame player from 1999-2001.” – lmfao, thanks for the laugh. Inb4boohooJasonisbeingcondescendingandsoundsegotisticalBawwww!

    • Boy, someone is mighty passive-aggressive, condescending, and arrogant. Did I poke a whole in the bubble helmet you were wearing? You can holster your ad hominem attacks; they have no effect on me (and certainly not from someone that doesn’t even know we’re on the Internet right now, not the internet, let alone the difference between affect and effect).

      Yes, you’re exactly what’s wrong with contemporary gaming–extolling a boring remake of an overrated game we all played two decades ago while simultaneously ignoring actual innovation like holographic Minecraft, and ludicrously handing your meaningless “Best of E3” award to Sony for that unequivocally boring announcement of a game franchise they don’t even own.

      I’ve been playing video games since Intellivision and have owned thousands of games across dozens of consoles, so you can zip it with your false appeal to authority. Ignoramuses like you are why we can’t have nice new shiny things.

    • Jason Mounce

      What a sad, pathetic response, what a shame it was all predicted before you even typed it up. Nothing more needs to be said by me, can’t be bothered to read a response made by a crying little boy pretending to be a special snowflake gamer who’s Top Tier compared to others.

      Looks like I indeed hit a tender area ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) It’s very easy to find once you find yourself a pseudo-intellectual who’s likely full of themselves. Very very easy to rile up. Just look at the robust vocabulary this kid used to try to sound like a smarty-pants. Phew!

      ‘IGNORAMUSES’! Baaahahahaha, you crack me up xD

    • DarthDiggler

      @jasonmounce:disqus

      Every time I brought up a new logical fallacy he would accuse me of the same LOL. 🙂 Be prepared for your argument to be called a strawman next, I think I am learning the boy!

    • Jason Mounce

      @DarthDiggler:disqus Most people don’t understand that I enjoy being faux-arrogant, it goes with my online personification. It makes it easier to draw out whether or not the person I’m talking to, if jabbed a bit, fights perceived-arrogance with even greater arrogance, then I see how much they enjoy rolling in the mud – then either leave them be because it disgusted me how vile they became, orrrrr – I see that they calm down, or can handle things with civility and I respect them. I can tell he’s the kinda guy who likes to think highly of himself. Poster-child for Pseudo-intellectual if I ever saw one.

      Him calling me an ignoramus, essentially goes with the same humour where people call others as ‘Plebeians’ – but most use it with satirical humour because of how stupid it makes the user sound, as same with humor with stating one feels triggered, same comedy. This person is Full-on serious though, whereas I’m not. You can even see in his newest response to me, look, all he does is Reflect everything now. It’s apparent that the only one contributing to the strawman fallacy is him with a response like that now XD.

      Though I am serious about my happiness that FF7 is confirmed getting a remake – which apparently is a problem and I’m a cancer to Gaming because of it LOL.

    • There was zero substance to that pathetic attempt at self-reassurance. Insecurity isn’t flattering. Neither is denial. Enjoy your twenty-year-old remake. Us non-Luddites will be enjoying holographic computing by then.

  • Lucas Cage

    Ummmm, no. MS announced the Xbox one is backwards compatible. Nothing short of free PS+ memberships and an end to DLCs could top that.

    • DarthDiggler

      @lucas_cage:disqus

      Has anyone confirmed the modding system is proprietary to Xbox One?

      I don’t think so. There is nothing preventing PS4 version of Fallout to support mods either.

    • DarthDiggler

      @lucas_cage:disqus

      I wouldn’t bank on Mods being exclusive to Xbox One and PC.

  • Psionicinversion

    Everyones praising sony for Shenmue that wont even be released till December 2017 according to there kickstarter page. 2 1/2 years how is that a win? sony arent even funding it either

    • Gamez Rule

      It’s not just about that one game is it now. And even if it was within a few hours it hit over 2 million from funding which shows people want it.

      The original titles were cult classics on Sega’s last console and to hear that Shenmue 3 was coming was awesome news to people that played the last ones and wanted the story finish.

    • Mark

      Kickstarters are the new triple A exclusives! And, years later! Sony won!

    • Gamez Rule

      “The $2 million amount announced as a goal on the Kickstarter – which
      was surpassed within 9 hours – doesn’t appear to pertain to the game’s
      entire budget, and instead has been used as proof of interest in the
      project before other investors dive in”.

      “Sony and PlayStation is definitely a partner in this game,” Sony PlayStation’s director of third party production and developer relations Gio Corsi. “It’s going be run through third-party production. We’re going to help YsNet get the game done. We’re going to be partners on it the whole way.”

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-16-kickstarter-campaign-launches-for-shenmue-3

    • Psionicinversion

      Fair enough got to be really hard for you to lose the NMS timed exclusivity and looked like it never existed in the first place PC and PS4 release same day

    • Gamez Rule

      I knew it was for PC months ago and not just for PS4. I even placed this news on my post ( on this article ) saying that NMS is for PC and PS4.

      But what must be hard to take for some MS console gamers is knowing that some E3 games shown are also heading for PC like Gears of War Ultimate Edition / Sea of Thieves / Fable Legends ect.

    • Psionicinversion

      Sea of Thieves isnt thats xbox only like it said in the reveal.

      We all knew NMS was coming to PC like over 1 year ago… BUT sony made it sound like it was ONLY on PS4 at first and then PC like 6 months later. Now its PC and PS4 at the same time, blew there stupid BS marketing away

    • Gamez Rule

      Sea of Thieves is for PC and Xbox as is Gears UE and FL. Forza M-6 is rumored for PC as is Halo 5. But we will have to wait and see if rumors are real.

    • Psionicinversion

      are you sure about that im pretty sure they said it was exclusive. If its true less reason to get an xbox because thats one of the main games to grab my attention.

      Thing is with halo 5 and FM6 you have to separate the rumour BS from fact because there will be alot of sh.. it stirers around right now

    • Gamez Rule
    • Psionicinversion

      yes i know didnt you read my other comment to you? from 2 hours ago. maybe if you read you wouldnt need to link that stuff which i hate seeing

    • Gamez Rule

      The last comment from you was “are you sure about that im pretty sure they said it was exclusive.” hence why I posted the link showing it was for PC.

    • Psionicinversion

      no it wasnt i posted something like 5 minutes after it when i checked it out myself

    • Gamez Rule

      Really. Where is that post then? as the last one replied to me was your post I quoted

    • Psionicinversion

      “ah Sea of thieves is on PC, noice”

    • Gamez Rule

      Yes and after that post you then posted “are you sure about that im pretty sure they said it was exclusive”

    • Psionicinversion

      no i didnt, was other way round, disqus hasnt listed it properly

      i think id know in what order i posted something

    • Gamez Rule

      Oh so where disqus placed them on here in the wrong order you say you didn’t post them at those times.

      Either way the posts came on as I stated and that’s why I replied with the Twitter link.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah fair enough, stupid disqus, needs to get its time stamp ordering fixed

    • Psionicinversion

      ah Sea of thieves is on PC, noice

  • TristanPR77

    Best new IPs: Sony
    Best surprises: Sony
    Best marketing deals: Sony
    Best exclusive content: Sony

    Sony gave a 10/10 conference for the history books and undoubtedly won E3.

    Microsoft did a good conference, although it was focused on the old same cycle halo, forza, gears, but the magic, nostalgia, tears, and jaw drops of Sony conference was unique and blow MS in the shadows.

    • Psionicinversion

      the marketing deals hahah, The COD one there spending $40-50mill a year for nothing, MS has done good for pulling out of that one and people will still play it on xbox cus it has the best servers

    • Best new IPs: impossible to judge until they actually release
      Best surprises: announcing other people’s surprises don’t count as your own
      Best marketing deals: you’re seriously celebrating this?

      Sorry, but this was one of Sony’s worst conferences in years. Saying that Microsoft’s was “focused on the same old cycle” when they announced two new AAA franchises and demoed something truly innovative, that has never been done before in the history of gaming with HoloLens Minecraft, just goes to show that you either didn’t even watch either conference or you’re hopelessly lost down the well.

    • Gamez Rule

      “demoed something truly innovative, that has never been done before in the history of gaming with HoloLens Minecraft”

      LMAO, try youtube back in Jan 2015 and you’ll see what you posted was just wrong. Been there and done that already☺

      *Microsoft HoloLens Demonstration Shows off Holographic Minecraft, Apps, and More*

    • I watched the January Windows 10 HoloLens reveal live (I also watched the May BUILD reveal). What they showed there was conceptual and not actually Minecraft. What they showed yesterday was real and actually Minecraft. Nothing I said was wrong. The audiences’ gasps is further proof of that. Yesterday’s demo had never been done before.

    • Gamez Rule

      You stated… “demoed something truly innovative, *that has never been done before* in the history of gaming with HoloLens Minecraft”…

      That statement is not true or correct as HoloLens DID demo something about gaming back in Jan 2015, and back then it was also classed as ( Truly innovative ) for the gaming world.

      This is why seeing Minecraft being done for HoloLens was no shock to gamers ( as we knew that game would be used for HoloLens ) due to the demo in Jan 2015

    • No, they didn’t. That wasn’t Minecraft back in January. It was a concept. They clearly stated it was not Minecraft. And it was nothing like what they demoed yesterday, and Minecraft for HoloLens wasn’t official until they announced it yesterday. You clearly didn’t even watch Microsoft’s E3 conference. Had you, you’d have noticed loud audience gasps and reactions during the Mincraft HoloLens demo. Your argument is asinine, akin to saying that yesterdays Last Guardian announcement by Sony was meaningless because they had already announced the game (a decade ago). Holographic gaming has NEVER been done before in public, until yesterday.

    • Gamez Rule

      OMG it is even called “Microsoft HoloLens Demonstration Shows off Holographic Minecraft, Apps, and More”…See the *Minecraft* LMAO! Hence it was NOT a shock to see Minecraft running on HoloLens at E3.

      Even articles are saying “Microsoft’s demonstration at E3 today involved a full Minecraft universe running on a table thanks to the HoloLens headset, *and it was very similar to the experience the company revealed back in January.*”

      Oh i suppose these articles are wrong too then LOL

      In fact this is dated Jan-2015 and shows Minecraft on hololens.. h t t p:// vrfocus. com /archives / 10868/ minecraft-coming-hololens/

    • Wrong. Read credible press releases from the January event. Microsoft was very careful to call the concept “HoloBuilder” and said it was “inspired by Minecraft”. Here are two sources: 1. Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/21/microsoft-hololens-hands-on/) and 2. Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/project-hololens-hands-on-incredible-amazing-prototy-1680934585). Do your research. Citing incorrect articles does not constitute valid research. Yesterday was the first day they demoed and announced actual Minecraft for HoloLens.

    • Gamez Rule

      On my link (http://vrfocus.com/archives/10868/minecraft-coming-hololens/) it clearly states back in Jan 2015 the following…

      ♦*A player brought up Minecraft‘s blocky world in the middle of a living room to fully explore. This wasn’t just a simple concept image, however; Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella also confirmed that those attending the reveal event would be playing Minecraft on HoloDeck after the show.*♦

      Thank you very much, as Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella confirmed that those attending the reveal event would be playing Minecraft on HoloDeck after the show…Hence why I said it was no shock seeing Minecraft on HoloLens at E3 and that it had been demoed before. Just not the same one. But same game. And you tell me to do reseach LMAO!

    • Just because you found an article written by an incompetent reporter does not negate the fact that it wasn’t actually Minecraft at the January event: it was called “HoloBuilder” and it was “inspired by Minecraft”, as clearly stated in the Engadget and Gizmodo articles I provided you above–Microsoft was very careful not to call it Minecraft at that time.

    • Gamez Rule

      OMG even Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella confirmed that those attending the reveal event would be playing Minecraft on HoloDeck after the show. This is 100% more reliable than your links LOL. People played Minecraft on HoloLens after the show like MS confirmed back in Jan-2015

    • You cannot possibly be this obtuse. I already explained to you, several times, and provided credible sources: the concept demos shown of the Minecraft-like HoloLens in January was explicitly called “HoloBuilder” and was explicitly described as “Minecraft-inspired”. These are facts. It doesn’t matter if some people like Jens misspoke about that. Microsoft’s official statement and position was that what was shown then was ‘HoloBuilder”, not Minecraft.

    • Gamez Rule

      I’ll take the word of MS CEO Satya Nadella and the developer Jens Bergensten that Minecraft projects were played on HoloLens in January 2015 over your links anyday mate.

      The first link you gave doesn’t even take me to the article about HoloLens or HoloBuilder or Minecraft, and the second link comes up with 404 TAG not found. So much for your credible sources ☺

  • Gamez Rule

    MS E3 2015

    Backward compatibility = a win for gamers. Only 18 games to start with but more to follow ( unless it goes the same way as 360s backward compat- did with XBOX games.

    “We wont charge you to play the games you own” = a jab at Sony? LOL

    “Play mods from PC on Xbone using Fallout 4” = Modding system for the Xbone and PC versions of Fallout 4 will not be available at launch. Followed by a possible launch on PS4.

    Some gamers made fun of PS4 for having indie titles,,, well now so does Xbone as loads of indie titles are being shown☺…

    Minecraft = HoloLens…. Wasn’t impressed if being honest.

    Halo 5 = Looked good

    Recore = Awesome, need more info on this one really.

    Forza M-6 = Well it’s more Forza ☺

    Dark souls III = Awesome, and can’t wait to see more.

    The Division = Cool. Can’t wait for this game

    Rise Of The Tomb Raider = MS timed exclusive.

    Fable Legends = One to watch out for. Could be good. Time will tell.

    Gears of war 4 = Like GoWs before it will be enjoyed, but I didn’t feel it brought anything new to the gamer that we haven’t already seen before from Gears.

    No mention of Kinect,.

    Not a bad E3, but have seen better. Now lets see what Sony and PC brings to the table☺

  • Gamez Rule

    Sony E3 2015

    PS4 exclusive = The Last Guardian. The long awaited game is coming☺.

    PS4exclusive = HORIZON: Zero Dawn = Awesome new IP from Guerrilla Games which shows us a pre-historic open world action RPG with mecha dinosaurs.

    HITMAN = PS4 beta coming before other platforms as well as Six contracts exclusive to PS4.

    Hello games = No Man’s Sky = One massive universe to explore. A win for gamers of all ages.

    Firewatch = New IP and looked great from what was shown. Keeping an eye on this one for sure.

    Media Molecule = Dreams: A new IP, weird looking if being honest.

    Destiny: The Taken King = Exclusive game content for Sony platform/s.=Awesome

    Assassins Creed: Syndicate = Exclusive game content for PS4.

    World Of Final Fantasy = A game that all ages can enjoy as new Adventures await.

    Shenmue 3 = A game that has been longed for by many gamers. And at last “Shenmue 3 is in your hands now” = Awesome and cannot wait.

    Final Fantasy VII: *Remake* 1st for PS4 = YES, you heard it right, the game is coming. Awesome right☺.

    VR = New IPs that include not only single player experiences but also multiplayer too. The experience gamers have while using VR-Headset can be done by just sitting down and using their duelshock controller. Cool.

    PS Vue = PlayStation TV ( Yes TV ☺ ) while PS+ members will get discounts on packages. NO PS-NOW?

    Sony & Activision: Teamed up to release ALL Map-Packs on Sonys consoles from Black Ops III before any other platfrom ( as well as the Beta ) = A Microsoft and Xbox stronghold, will now be co-branded with PlayStation.= Awesome

    Batman = Exclusive Scarecrow game content on PS4, as well as BM consoles.

    ( Showing loads of games on the big screen ) more than what MS have shown at their E3.

    Disney Infinity v3.0: = Sony gets an exclusive limited edition starter pack for PS platforms one month before other platforms, and Starwars figures +games will becoming to DI v3.0.

    Starwars Battlefront: = PS4 gameplay looked really well and can be played solo or via co op. The game looked and run amazing.

    Uncharted 4 = Awesome ( once the game started that is ☺) The game looked really good and seemed to run fine. Cannot wait to see more☺

    Oh and DLNA support is finally coming to the PS4 tonight. = About time☺

    • So, three exclusives, none of which are coming this year, and a bunch of multiplatforms. Sounds like a “win” to me…

    • Gamez Rule

      MS showed Halo 5, Gears of war 4, Forza 6, these are Microsofts big
      hitters ( some rumored to be heading towards PC ), while Sony brought to the table HORIZON: Zero Dawn ( new IP ), Uncharted 4, World Of Final Fantasy, ( none rumored to be heading towards PC ) while loads of the AAA games being shown at Sonys E3 had exclusive content + Betas, ect. Sony showed more games people wanted than MS this year and showed more VR related games too.

    • You omitted Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fable Legends, Gears of War Ultimate, and Rare Replay, as big exclusives all coming this year. You ignored ReCore and Sea of Thieves as new IP. Uncharted 4 was announced last year. Microsoft showed more AAA games at E3 2015, E3 2014, and E3 2013. Microsoft partnered with Oculus Rift and Valve for VR games, both of which have more appeal than Project Morpheus, and they demoed HoloLens. They covered themselves either way. Sony showed a few games, and those games won’t be available for years. Microsoft showed a ton of games, and those games will be available within months.

    • Gamez Rule

      Look at what I posted at “MS E3 2015” and you’ll see I mentioned the games ect. Plus the games you posted are not the big hitters people know for an xbox console. Example, Halo is well known and a console seller while fable wasn’t.

      “Microsoft partnered with Oculus Rift and Valve for VR games” This was NOT announced at E3 hence why no-one mentioned this in the post reguarding E3 2015.LOL

    • Fable is absolutely a console seller. It’s one of Lionhead’s biggest franchises.

      The Valve VR announcement was announced at the E3 press conference. Again, you clearly didn’t watch Microsoft’s conference. The Valve VR announcement was one of the more memorable announcements in the show because it was greeted with pure silence by the audience, making it amusingly awkward.

    • Gamez Rule

      Fable was not a console seller and Fable Legends isn’t just for Xbone ( PC ) but i did place that game in the E3 2015 post on here, just not in the Xbones console exclusive list like you have commented on for obvious reasons.

      “The Valve VR announcement was announced at the E3 press conferenced” …I’ll correct you again,

      It was announced at Microsoft’s *♦pre-E3 press conference♦* NOT on the E3 show like I stated and this is what was stated.

      “Microsoft is proud to announce a new relationship with Valve VR. We will be working closely with Valve to make Windows 10 the best platform for VR gaming”

      Oh and by the way it was Last week that Microsoft announced a partnership with Oculus VR not at E3 hence why I haven’t place anything about it in E3 2015.

    • You have no idea how many copies Fable has sold so why are you even pretending like you do? Fable Legends is an Xbox exclusive: you can only get it on Xbox One or as an Xbox game from the Windows 10 Store. Same with Gigantic.
      The Oculus Rift announcement came before E3. The Valve announcement occurred during the E3 presentation and was the most awkward moment of the entire show.

    • Gamez Rule

      Fable XBOX sold approx- 3 million copies worldwide. Fable 2 sold over 3.5 million world wide ( fable 2 was 360 exclusive ) Fable 3 was hoping to sell 5 million via 360 and PC.

      Fable Legends can be played on PC without owning an xbone as it’s FTP.

    • Provide a source for those sales data.
      Xbox is a platform, not a device. Xbox games are on Xbox 360, Xbox One, Windows Phone 7, Windows Phone 8, Windows RT, and Windows 8, for instance. They have Xbox branding, Xbox gamertag, and Xbox achievements. Whether or not you play Fable Legends on an Xbox One or on Xbox for Windows 10, it matters not not Microsoft, for they’re both Xbox.

    • Gamez Rule

      I found sales sources by looking, you do the same, but fact is you don’t need a console to play the games on PC. Just like Fable Legends the Gears of War Ultimate Edition ships on both Xbox One and PC so no longer is Gears a console exclusive as you can use a PC to play that game.

    • I’ve looked. Nowhere online is there up-to-date, official sales data for any Fable game. You’re pulling from statistically meaningless sources. That was my point.
      Fable Legends and Gears of War Ultimate Edition are Xbox games on Windows 10. They carry the Xbox banner, have Xbox Live integration and Xbox achievements, and will only be available in Microsoft’s official Windows 10 Store. They’re Xbox games. Microsoft (wisely) no longer distinguishes between devices. Xbox games can be on any Windows 10 device (PCs, Surface tablets, Windows phones, and Xbox One). Ergo, it’s an Xbox exclusive.

    • Gamez Rule

      No up to date sales ( maybe the sales timings have ended due to being old ) but I showed sales nevertheless.

      As for what you stated, it still proves what I’ve been saying all along, that people don’t even need the Xbone to play games that would once need a console to play them. That’s my point. You don’t need a MS console to play Fable Legends or Gears of War Ultimate Edition or the Sea of Thieves, ect.

      More and more games from MS are now allowing PC gamers to play the once *Console sellers* and IMO that is taking away the need for Xbone.

    • You showed statistically meaningless sales from unnamed but surely dubious sources. Only Microsoft knows how well Fable has sold and they’ve never released official numbers (physical + digital sales). So, stop spreading FUD>
      That’s a great thing to not need an Xbox One (it’s called an Xbox One, not an “Xbone”–you should at least pretend not to be an obnoxious fanboy) to play Xbox games. Opens up the catalog to a much larger audience. Microsoft is smart: Xbox is a brand, not a product. All those titles on Windows 10 are still Xbox games.

    • Gamez Rule

      “Xbox is a brand, not a product. All those titles on Windows 10 are still Xbox games”

      Can you play Gears of war 3 on anything but Xbox 360?

    • I have no idea. I’ve never played the game nor owned an Xbox 360. What’s your point?

  • MJ_9sixteen

    I can say that I favor Playstation but I wouldn’t call myself a fanboy by any means. I think that it’s cool that this time around, everyone had something interesting to bring to the table and will make gaming good for multiple groups. That’s what it’s all about at the end of the day.

  • Gamez Rule
  • Mark

    Woow. Major disagree here Pramath. FF7 isn’t exclusive, Shenmue 3 is a kickstarter! Currently has only under 1 mill. That could take years, let alone it won’t have many resources (programmers, artists etc) to use for support. Not even close to being a triple A exclusive. Last Gaurdian is for those who are attracted to that. Imo way overhyped, but that’s me.

    Horizon was flat out amazing, brilliant. UC4 looks good. For me, those were the only 2 worthy of mention on this article. But dam if that doesn’t pale in comparison to Halo 5, Forza, Tomb Raider, Gears 4, Recore, Sea of Thieves, backward compatibility, & a new controller. We all have our tastes but, haha, this is a bit much.

    • Gamez Rule

      “Shenmue 3 is a kickstarter! Currently has only under 1 mill”…? You posted that 5 hours ago

      Yet this was poted yesterday. “A campaign to raise $2m (£1.3m) on Kickstarter to help fund the making of video game Shenmue III hits its target within hours” and still has 31 days to go. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33144515

    • Mark

      Yup, Sony’s helping so much so that an X1/Linux version may happen. Read the FAQ. Again, Sony’s cheapin out on this bro, sorry. They spent money on DLC for multiplats left n right. It’s sad the game needs 7million more just for skill trees & more, shoulda been provided by Sony. Instead, Sony didn’t wanna risk anything, but lean on multiplats. And yeah they’re supporting developement thru their 3rd party, and they paid for that move with the USF4 port, even getting the PS4 version pulled from Evo. Wow. I hope it’s a great game, I loved the original, but Sony can do better than this imo.

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/description

    • Gamez Rule

      Yet USF4 and S3 and BO3 DLC is all coming to PS4 ( So no matter what’s said or done the Sony gamer wins )

    • Mark

      Actually not really. X1 version of USF4 will be coming thru backward compat, and BO3 DLC will come a month after PS4 version. And, the X1 version of S3 may still come…whenever that happens. Not sure why u said that…

    • Gamez Rule

      Backward Compat- is VERY limited as of now, and nothing to shout about IMO as I still have the 360 ( like millions people do ) and although Xbone will get BO3 DLC it would be after Sony gamers ( tables turned so to speak )

      so like I posted..”Yet USF4 and S3 and BO3 DLC is all coming to PS4 ( So no matter what’s said or done the Sony gamer wins )”

    • Psionicinversion

      its not turned tables actually. MS has turned the tables on Sony as sony will be bleeding an extra $50+mill a year for that BO3 deal and for what??? 1 month early access. pathetic MS will pump it into games while sony will have less money every year

    • Gamez Rule

      50+ Million for that deal. Sony knows what it’s doing and that deal alone will sell consoles and allow more intake than what they spent. People are angry that MS didn’t hold that deal… I wonder why lol

    • Psionicinversion

      Its not going to sell anymore consoles at all. this BO3 is on every platform still all 5 of them. Its not going to sell anything

    • Gamez Rule

      We will see lol.

    • Mark

      Hunh? That money coulda went into S3! It ain’t even locked as an exclusive. Ur proud of that move?!

    • Gamez Rule

      Yeah, why wouldn’t S3 be on PC? Shenmue was a SEGA game anyway lol, and S II was on XBOX, now S3 will be on PS4…So your point is?

    • Mark

      Ur incoherent. Lemme help u. If S3 comes to X1, what’s the point in bragging about it as a PS4 player? Lol

    • Gamez Rule

      Is it coming to X1?

    • Mark

      As of now it’s Suzuki is open on it. So, S3 is not a locked PS4 exclusive, I wouldn’t brag about it, all I’m saying. When u buy a system, u look @ exclusives, console exclusives, for the 200+ million console gamers out there. So I’m saying, u can’t even call a Kickstarter, that may release next yr into 2017, an exclusive. What’s there to brag about as a PS4 owner? I’m asking u.

    • Gamez Rule

      Why brag? Shenmue was a SEGA game anyway lol, and S II was on XBOX, now S3 will be on PS4…So your point is?

    • Mark

      Hunh? Metal Gear, Tomb Raider & GTA were all Playstation locked, and it transitioned to Xbox, so what? Who’s arguing over previous system support? Listen to what I’m saying, what bragging rights does PS4 owners have mentioning S3? Or maybe u feel like me, that it isn’t anything to brag over, mighta had u wrong.

    • Gamez Rule

      Without Sonys support or Kickstarter we wouldn’t have had S3 and that’s why people are so happy over the E3 showing. Not only was that game coming to PS4 the public showed it wanted it too by the Kickstarter donations

    • Mark

      Sony has a rather small investment in the project obviously, swhy it’s a kickstarter, and no locked exclusivity. They probably have like 2 programmers & an artist over there to help lol. Kinda like how they did USF4……

      A real megaton would’ve been them actually funding the whole project! Instead, they spent their bread on COD!

      #4TheGamers

    • Gamez Rule

      Yet the game is going ahead and coming to PS4 and PC, Shenmue 3 has set a Guinness World Record for being the fastest video game to raise $1m in pledges via a crowdfunding platform. Without Sony and E3 would that have happened?

      And like I stated before, the game series was on other platforms so why would Sony fund the whole game? No need too as shown above.

    • Psionicinversion

      also Activision dont care who has the deal as long as someone pays the money. MS pulled out of the deal so they could invest in new games. It shows because MS has alot of new stuff coming and sony has nothing compared to them.

      Sony is trying to soak up all these marketing deals and all there doing is digging a bigger hole for themselves as they will have less to spend an new stuff. MS is playing it smart this gen. Sure they got Tomb Raider but that is a proper timed exclusive. Sonys so called timed exclusives are turning out to be untrue like NMS.

      So have to see what gamescom is like for them

    • Gamez Rule

      “MS has alot of new stuff coming and sony has nothing compared to them” BS and you know it.☺

      The rest is your views not facts

    • Psionicinversion

      not really, MS showed off tons of stuff. Best things on sonys stand was Horizon and Uncharted thats it

    • Gamez Rule

      Your opinions not facts again.

    • Psionicinversion

      so who is actually right then? you, me? the internet where a reporter shares his own opinions on the stuff?

      I should say to me sonys line up was extremely weak, Horizon does look amazing but i can guarantee you that wont be out till 2017

    • Psionicinversion

      addition: ever heard the saying one mans sh it is another mans treasure. Fact is there are no Facts.

      You may think MS lineup is weak its not fact. You may think sonys lineup was amazing still not a Fact cus its each peoples opinion.

      All the internet sites saying MS E3 was crap are massive trolls because there lineup was good and some interesting new stuff. There you go each to his own

    • Gamez Rule

      True. But what exclusive games are for Xbone only shown at E3?

      We have heard from Phil Spencer that we wouldn’t rule out more Halos coming to the PC, we know that Forza Motorsport 6 was running on PC and rumored to come over to PC with Xbone release, we know that Tomb Raider will go over to PC

      we know that Gears of War Ultimate Edition is coming to PC ( Gears 4 rumored for PC ) and Sea of Thieves is coming to PC as well as Fable Legends, same for Dark souls III / The Division / Fallout 4 with mods ect.

      Yet Sony showed Uncharted 4 / Horizon / Dreams / World Of Final Fantasy + that are not coming to PC? Same goes for their VR games too.

    • Psionicinversion

      Well PShit (if your going be so childish calling it Xbone) thats down to MS and a good move. More software and peripheral sales means more money in the coffers for more games. Theres plenty of console only gamers, and plenty of PC only gamers so tapping into the PC only gamer market means more money. Simple

      World of Fantasy hahah even the hardcore sony fans were laughing at that crap. Why world of fantasy when they have Final Fantasy 14 MMO. Makes no sense.

      Sony exclusives, at some point in time they are going have to cave in and drop them on to PC to, not this gen probably next gen when cost of games gets a lot worse than it is now and its closing down studios right now or hang on to the exclusives and start destroying themselves again

      Sonys VR games hmmm i think the price point will only attract a couple of mill because it will be prohibitively expensive to buy the hardware until it gets cheaper

    • Gamez Rule

      What exclusive games were shown at E3 for only Xbone console?

      We know that Gears of War Ultimate Edition is coming to PC / Sea of Thieves is coming to PC / Fable Legends, same for Dark souls III / The Division / Fallout 4 with mods / Tomb Raider, ect.

    • Psionicinversion

      Thats you aint it xtremederp only you copy and paste the same stuff over and over

    • Gamez Rule

      Not at all. When asked a question you haven’t answered I just asked again. I’ve shown the games at E3 that MS showed and asked you a question. Will you answer it or not?

    • Psionicinversion

      Halo 5, Forza 6, gears 4, Recore theres prolly more forget. Until the rumours are facts they are Xbox only

    • Gamez Rule

      Right.. You missed out Gears 4..

      But like I said.. Only rumors BUT if gears series is going over to PC why wouldn’t Gears 4? And as Phil said himself that he wouldn’t rule out more Halos coming to the PC? Then Forza M-6 was running on PC and the rumor has it that it will also come to PC.

      So why buy the Xbone IF this is true?

    • Psionicinversion

      Yeah it hit enter and posted then i edited it also had Recore on to plus whatever is coming at gamescom which is QB scalebound crackdown plus what ever new first party IP’s he said theyve got there, whether they come PC to who knows.

      Why buy the Xbox? because you dont like PC gaming and there are alot of people that dont want game on PC, millions in fact.

      Also if there are PS4 gamers with PC’s and they like the games MS can earn money off them without selling any hardware at a loss. See its called business…. exploiting other channels to make money!!!!

    • Gamez Rule

      xploiting other channels to make money… Sony with PS-Now running in TVs = a win for home users that don’t want Consoles / PCs, See so many ways at looking at things, but for MS to release it’s best console sellers onto PC doesn’t help move consoles does it.

    • Psionicinversion

      Nope but whose to say people would buy it anyway. It’s the same argument with PSNow, putting games on there isn’t going to shift consoles is it? Just different way to get money

    • Mark

      Not only that, but Microsoft just killed PS Now. Sony’s gonna bleed big time imo.

    • Gamez Rule

      Really. lol. PS Now hasn’t been killed by MS backward compat-. I had backward compat- on PS3 ( didn’t use it ) I also have it on 360 ( don’t use it ) what I want is forward combatiblity and that’s hopefully what Sony brings gamers.

    • Mark

      Man what r u saying? Does the PS4 have back compat or not? If it doesn’t, or gets it only thru PS Now, then it’s a charged service for playin old games….in which the X1 doesn’t charge, & runs natively (less image quality issues) than streaming. How does that not stomp a mudd hole in PS NOW? Why would anyone choose PS Now over that? Everyone’s aware of the difference!

    • Gamez Rule

      I’ll explain why. I want the gaming ideas to go forward not backwards. Both last gen consoles have BW-compat- and hardly got used ( as MS and Sony stated ) and IF it was NATIVE on Xbone to play 360 games then why isn’t all games working from day one? and why the need to get permission from game publishers ect? It will work the same way 360 did with XBOX games.

      I would rather know that hardware wouldn’t hold back gaming and thats where forward compat- comes into play. IF Sony allowed PS3 games to be played better than ever before via streaming ( without a console ) onto a TV then that’s got to be better than buying consoles / PCs, ect and hoping that older games will work good on new hardware.

    • Mark

      Man why r u saying back compat is gonna “hold game ideas back”. I hope u aren’t saying that Microsoft’s holding back “gaming ideas” because they’re providing back compat…..if u really believe that, then u should look no further than Drivatars in Forza, or TitanFall AI assistance. Wether u like them or not, it’s forward thinking on how servers can assist gaming. What do u mean? Ur saying forward compat is the future, cool, but are u saying that by MS giving back compat, is handicapping “game ideas”? I’m lost…

    • Gamez Rule

      I’m saying that resources for BW-Compat- could have been used elsewhere in this consoles time of life. IF BW-Compat- was at the begining ( near launch ) that would have been better as it would by now have a fair amount of games ready by now for gamers.

      As you know the 360 games are not boosted via Xbone, and IMO that should have happened if native hardware was made in Xbone for 360 games but it’s not, it’s run via a emulator just like 360 did with XBOX games. Not all games will work, and some will never be allowed on the console.

      Forward Compat- would have allowed such things to happen without worring about hardward ( like PS-Now running on TVs ) and all games work fine.

    • Mark

      So just come out n say u think Microsoft should be following Sony’s approach to back compat/forward compat then, which is streaming. If that’s the case, then it’s a subjective opinion on the issue. Not arguing about it. And to suggest they’re “wasting” resources on back compat natively on the hardware, is simply, clearly, ignorant on ur part……it was THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED FEATURE FOR THE X1, regardless if it’s launch or not. Don’t come here tryna persuade us, that WE DON’T VALUE THE FEATURE. We don’t care for a streaming service to pay for old games dude. If u like PS Now, cheers, & have fun. But ur argument is a losing battle, I lie not. U can have the last word, peace.

    • Gamez Rule

      Not all titles will be supported ( MS themselves stated this )

      Yet IF the hardware was NATIVE like MS said it was 360 games would all work from day one console release ☺

      It’s done via emulator just like 360 was with XBOX games, and for some reason people can’t see that, lol. Why do you think people are keeping their 360s instead of the Xbone? IF MS allowed ALL 360 games to be played on Xbone then yes that would have been awesome ( but that’s not the case )

      Backwards Compat on Xbone is VERY limited and cannot play ALL 360 games. Not full BW-Compat

    • Mark

      Ultimately Xbox One players will decide just how valuable back compat is, and they are already. But cheers to a great 2015 & 2016 my friend, we’ll both no doubt have some dam good games coming, we just disagree here.

    • Gamez Rule

      cool.

      Have you seen the Mass Effect BW-Compat- gameplay vs 360 version on youtube yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjblk1ADq9k

      What I did notice was Xbone missing out Lens Flare? weird..

    • Gamez Rule

      Adding this too the list.. Lighting effects look better on 360?

    • Mark

      Funny thing is, S3 ain’t even locked as an exclusive, lol. Per the FAQ bottom of Kickstarter page, wow. So much for Sony providing big developement into it.

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/description

    • Mark

      Errr hunh? No way I’m arguing with u over who gets DLC first lmao. Cheers to u if enjoy that tho. As for back compat, it’s limited now true, but just like EA Acces (TitanFall now & Dragon Age coming), the content will swell within 12 months, and, we can vote on what games we want most, want sooner. This is true fan service, and gives a big reason to own an X1, as ur old games will transition, some sooner than later. Good to see a company provide back compat where the other charges u for it….

  • Leonard Shelton

    Sony lovers refuse to mention the abysmal choice to showcase Disney Infinity!!!

    • Gamez Rule

      My kids enjoy playing Disney Infinity, and they loved seeing Starwars films so when they knew that Starwars was coming to Infinity they went wild with excitement☺ I bet there’s loads of kids out there feeling the same way as mine.

  • StormRaging

    “Call of Duty, long a Microsoft and Xbox stronghold, will be co-branded with PlayStation going forwards, and that the PlayStation versions of the game will be getting all DLC first – the exact same deal that Microsoft has had for Xbox for almost a decade now – it was the kind of stinging smackdown for Microsoft that words cannot ever replicate. That has gotta hurt.”

    Did you ever stop to think that maybe just maybe Microsoft saw the declining value in this and declined to pay whatever exorbitant amount that Activision was asking for?

    • Mark

      Exactly, as if Microsoft couldn’t have EASILY bought the DLC rights over Sony, as they did previously. We can CLEARLY see, that Phil wanted to focus on first party & third party IPs this gen (Recore, Qbreak, Sunest O, Scalebound, etc). That means cutting bak on multiplat investment. But whatever, great time to be an Xbox gamer..

    • Gamez Rule

      “Did you ever stop to think that maybe just maybe Microsoft saw the declining value in this”… What declining values?

      After six weeks on release, Activision reported that Black Ops had exceeded $1 billion in sales. From November 09 2010 to August 3, 2011, Activision confirmed that the game had sold over 25 million copies worldwide.

      Black ops 2 released on November 13, 2012, within 24 hours of going on sale, the game grossed over $500 million in the US alone, and went on to gross $1 billion in the first 15 days of availability. As of November 5, 2013, the game had sold 24.2 million copies.

      Sony has done the right thing by getting rights to BO3 DLC. IMO going by the figures above within a few weeks Sony holding onto the DLC for One month was a big win for them and a loss to MS.

    • Psionicinversion

      yes and guess what it will still sell that amount regardless of what platform its on. The point being having a marketing/DLC deal for COD is a waste of time because it adds absolutely nothing. People will get COD because its COD. Everybody knows its on every platform having to wait for some DLC i dont think anyone really cares about that much except the absolute hardcore which are a minority. It out in exactly the same month every year and doesnt need any promotion whatsoever

      Thats why its just not worth it

    • Gamez Rule

      “yes and guess what it will still sell that amount regardless of what platform its on”.. .. Look at the sales figures of these games ♦Near Release♦

      Example Black ops II = $500 million in 24 hours in US alone. Now tell me that….the “DLC deal for COD is a waste of time because it adds absolutely nothing” LMAO!

    • Psionicinversion

      Oh im sorry did that $500mill go straight to MS?

    • Gamez Rule

      They would have had some of it yes. They ern money by consoles being sold via that game see. Now it will be Sonys turn to sell consoles via that game too.

    • Psionicinversion

      hahahaha so you think consoles will get sold because of Call of Duty? no mate, just no nobody is going to buy a console for 1 game. They will of bought it on the 360 if they didnt have an xbox

    • Gamez Rule

      You really think that BO3 will not be a console seller?

    • StormRaging

      You’re talking Black Ops and Black Ops 2. Sure that means they can assume that 3 will do well. The problem is people are starting to tire of the formula. Oh I’m sure the game will sell fine but there are many people, myself included, who could be considered hardcore COD fans who WILL NOT be getting this game.

      I watched the gameplay reveal and you know what I saw? Advanced Warfare combined with Titanfall. I already have those games so why should I buy it again? Black Ops was my favorite of all the COD’s but I look at this one and I couldn’t care less about it. This game is completely going away from the spirit of what Black Ops was.

    • Gamez Rule

      Your views and opinions which is fine, but games cannot stay the same way forever.

      Time will tell how BO3 will sell within the first month of release and how many PS4 consoles get sold due to the game having the DLC before other platforms. But going by the other two games I think people will buy just like the other games.

  • Devon Day

    I have to agree as least how I define E3. Sony literally announced galaxy buster after galaxy buster and also had excellent showings from games like FireWatch, No Mans Sky and arguably the best IP for this year in Horizon: Zero Dawn.From the “Triforce of Legends” to stellar indie and new IP, Sony tore it up.

    Microsoft also had a very strong showing. Gears, Forza, Rise of The Tomb Raider and Halo are all going to help propell the One even greater for the holiday; Xbox Elite a game changer if the price gets fixed and Cuphead potentially being their best showcasing. Issue I had with theirs was other than Sea of Thieves and ReCore, they really didn’t have any new IP that excited me akin to Horizon. Sea of Thieves was good but not as breathtaking in terms of gameplay mechanics.

    Nintendo……. was not as bad. Yes, slapping metroid fans in the face, no Project Guard and no Project Giant Robot were not shown, but other games were, such as Xenoblade Chronicles X, Fatal Frame V, Yoshi’s Wholly World, StarFox, Fire Emblem Fates and the SMTxFE crossder. The biggest surprise I thought was Fast Neo Racing. F-Zero GX reborn is what I felt. Either way, Nintendo did give us games, but the issue In had with their conference was the fact that not only we knew about many of these for a while, they grew gamers anticipation for a treasured game or series and often had many of us disappointed.

    Overall, this was a good E3 all around; much better than last years. Now, onward to Gamescom, Paris Game Show, and Tokyo Game Show. Hopefully we get more details on games like Horizon, Disgaea, Fast Neo, Scale bound, RIME, Hat In Time, and others.


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