Behind The PS4 Pro’s Architecture Part I – Efficiency Gains, Delta Color Compression And More

Improvements and additions to the PS4 Pro architectures explained and detailed.

Posted By | On 02nd, Nov. 2016 Under Article, Graphics Analysis


While the console manufacturers are somewhat averse to calling them that, the PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio represent the closest thing we’re likely to get to a ninth console generation (Switch notwithstanding). With a new generation comes new hardware, and while it was initially assumed that the PS4 Pro features relatively unaltered off-the-shelf hardware, it appears as though Sony’s new platform has a few hardware tricks up its sleeve.

Eurogamer’s Digital Foundry recently conducted an excellent and an in-depth interview with PS4 Pro’s system architect Mark Cerny. We strongly recommend checking that interview out. During the course of the interview, Cerny revealed a few interesting tid bits and enhancements about the PS4 Pro that we are going to tackle at an in-depth level through this article. Note that this is part 1 of this feature so check us out again later this week for the second and final part.

Polaris and Massive Efficiency Gains

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The shift to AMD’s new Polaris architecture, and the move to the 14nm fab process entail substantial efficiency gains, both from a thermal and power consumption perspective, right off the bat. While AMD claims that architecture gains in GCN 4.0 have contributed to 15 percent efficiency gains clock for clock, our experience with desktop Polaris and earlier hardware including the 390X, 380X, and Fury indicates that under DX11 workloads, GCN 4.0 is only marginally more efficient than GCN 1.2/1.3. What is far more significant, in the desktop space at least, is that the shift to the 14nm process has allowed AMD to substantially ramp up clock speeds with Polaris, as well as drastically increasing the number of CUs in a given amount of die space.

What this means for the PS4 Pro is a moderately increased GPU clock, along with a substantially meatier 32 CU GPU, all without substantially higher power requirements than the original PS4. In order to hit higher resolutions, the PS4 Pro has to feature a substantially more powerful graphics component. Thanks to the 14nm fab process, AMD was able to cram twice as many CUs onto a die area that’s only marginally larger than Pitcairn. Die size, of course, scales with cost, and this is the main reason why Sony is able to make PS4 Pro levels of graphics power available at a $399 price point.

Delta Color Compression and 16-bit Half Float

The PS4 Pro is positioned as a “4K console.” While gameplay for confirmed titles indicates that the Pro won’t hand in a native 4K output in most AAA modern games, it most certainly will be rendering most titles at resolutions higher than 1080p. Memory bandwidth scales with framebuffer resolution, and a bottleneck here will pose a significant challenge if you’re looking to run games at higher resolutions. The original PS4 didn’t exactly ship with a surfeit of bandwidth, at 186 GB/S, and the PS4 Pro only features a modest bump in bandwidth to 218 GB/S, which is pedestrian compared to cards like the 390X—at 384 GB/S—targeting higher resolutions.

What’s the solution here? As always, the Polaris answer is “more for less.” The next-generation delta colour compression tech onboard the PS4 Pro’s GPU is 30 percent more efficient colour compression on the 290X/390X. Colour compression reduces the size of the framebuffer, thereby reducing actual memory bandwidth needs. With 30 percent more efficient colour compression, the Pro’s GPU has an effective bandwidth of 283 GB/S as compared to the 390X. Because the Pro doesn’t offer that much bandwidth as is, color compression and reduced bandwidth requirements will enable it to hit playable framerates at higher resolutions—which is the whole point of the Pro in the first place.

On the other hand, the “more with less” approach sees potential gains in shading performance thanks to better support of 16 bit half-float variables. With the PS4 Pro, half-float variables take up half the register space as a full-float variable. While less precise and not applicable in all scenarios, this does offer develops the possibility to further optimize performance for games on the Pro, especially later down the line when (we’re hoping) Pro exclusives will begin to crop up and compatibility with the original PS4 is no longer such a concern.

Extra DDR3: Freeing Up More Dedicated Video Memory

The PS4 featured 8 GB of GDDR5 memory. While this was drastically more video memory than the PS3 had, it wasn’t dedicated to the GPU, meaning that, in effect, the GPU only had around 3-4 GB of VRAM on tap. At lower resolutions, this is still plenty, but beyond 1080p, high-resolution textures become a substantial problem. With the PS4 Pro, Sony opted not to increase the amount of GDDR5 memory onboard. This, unfortunately, has meant that textures in PS4 Pro games are largely unchanged from the PS4, with the lower resolution assets making for a somewhat painful viewing experience at 4K. Although additional GDDR5 would’ve been welcome, this would have likely increased costs.

What’s Sony’s solution? The PS4 Pro gets an additional 1 GB of slower DDR3 RAM. This will not be utilized by games per se. Rather, OS functionality like multitasking will be moved over to DDR3, which reduces system overhead on the shared GDDR5 pool. This allows developers to make use of an additional 512 MB of GDDR5 RAM for games. While it might not be enough to deliver high-res textures at 4K, it is a step in the right direction. While it’s possible that existing titles won’t get a texture resolution bump on the Pro, the additional DDR3 indicates that developers could eke out higher resolution textures on the Pro if they can manage space effectively.

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  • Eliezer Barreto

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  • -youjustgotburned-

    $400 well spent.

  • DA-ROOSTER

    The Xbox Scorpio will be significantly more powerful
    Sony should’ve added more ram and better memory bandwidth for the PS4 PRO
    Sony went cheap this time around with their console

    • Mehdi

      Here’s the thing: The Scorpio’s specs make it a next gen console, despite what MS says. Sony’s PS4 Pro is intended as mid-gen boost. Two different approaches to hardware. You can also expect the Scorpio to be more expensive due to the better hardware.

    • James Fitzgerald

      It will be far more expensive or MS will be eatting a hugh portion of the price.

    • kma99

      They already said it wouldn’t be more expensive do you people actually pay attention to anything

    • Luke Skywalker

      Traditional console life cycle says you eat a lot of the upfront cost but make it back through game sales and peripherals. For example: if on xbox Scorpio owner buys 2 games and an extra controller then Microsoft breaks even on that console or turn a very small profit. Microsoft could keep that up until they’re able to reduce the system cost after a year or two.

    • Psionicinversion

      people think it will be like $700. it wont im betting about $549. all it has is an extra 4GB of GDDR5, an extra 50% die size and a bluray player over pro

    • Luke Skywalker

      Yeah my bet is $499. I don’t think 700 is in the price range for a base console in this day and age.

    • jp

      yeah 499, he said it wouldn’t be more that any other premium console, the Genesis was 499 as far as I can remember, so 499 for almost double the power of the Pro? plus I get the game I actually like and not overhyped games (which might be good, im pretty pumped for God Of War) but they are at least coming 2020… thats a looooot of waiting, meanwhile on the Xbox we get (near future) Sea Of Thieves, Crackdown 3, State Of Decay 2, Scalebound, Halo Wars 2, and many more, we dont have to wait for 2020 for games…

    • Clint Hoffman

      $469-499 USD range sounds about right. Will be likely be $599-$649 in Canada.

    • Phil Spencer keeps saying it will be at a “Premium price”, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re in the $599 range. If it were $499, that’s just the normal launch price for the Xbox One and not a “premium price.”

    • Mark

      Quick question; doesn’t the increased 320gb/s bandwidth come into play too? Basically the buses on the motherboard is bigger too right?

    • Psionicinversion

      no its memory controller on the gpu. it might have a 384bit one for that. Youll find out way ahead of time anyway because the full line up of vega will be out before the scorpio anyway

    • Gamez Rule

      GAME ( a local UK shop that sells consoles etc ) said to me they believe that Scorpio will be £700 when released? I was like WHY?

      They stated that due to the console specs MS wouldn’t sell it for less? I then went ok, I’ll pre-order two PS4-Pros then instead ☺

      Even at £500 people may think twice? I mean PS4-Pro will be about £299 by then with more game choice and support for the gamer.

    • jp

      support? there is no better support than the one offered by Xbox Live Gold, seriously.

    • Gamez Rule

      Mate I use both networks and XBL has just as many problems as PSN, but when it comes to support I get better help and support from Sony than what I ever got from MS.

    • Agent_Blade

      Agreed. XBL has actually given me more problems the then PSN this gen.

    • Gamez Rule

      Tell me about it. lol

    • jp

      sure.

    • Gamez Rule
    • jp

      so nice, thanks!

    • Agent_Blade

      Wrong.

    • Psionicinversion

      people are absolutely retarded when it comes to this stuff. What would make it an extra £350? all it will be is a bigger APU and an extra 4GB RAM.

      No the Pro wont be 299 next year if it sells well. sony didnt budge on the ps4 price for a long time.

      £500 for it is fine. they should just about be able to manufacture it for that cost

    • Gamez Rule

      Mate the PS4-Pro has already dropped RRP in some shops ( pre-order ) from £350 to £332, so yes by this time next year the PS4-Pro will be selling for about £299 in some stores.

      http://www.tesco.com/direct/ps4-pro-1tb-4k-console-black/130-0023.prd?source=others

    • Psionicinversion

      thats got nothing to do with sony thats only what the shops will sell them for. if its cheaper than RRP then the store is losing money on it.

    • Gamez Rule

      But *People* will still buy that console at the store prices, hence why I stated “by this time next year the PS4-Pro will be selling for about £299 in some stores”

    • Psionicinversion

      no it wont. they arent going to lose a ton of money on it. it will more than likely be so people will buy from them for xmas then after xmas prices go back to normal.

    • Gamez Rule

      Mate price drops are already taking place ( in pre-orders ) before the console even releases. And by this time next year the PS4-Pro will be coming up to a year old, hence why you’ll see further price drops ( just like we see with normal PS4 )

    • Psionicinversion

      they dropped very slowly by small amounts over years with the ps4. pro wont be £299 next year as a standard price and ill guarantee it. save it photo it whatever i guarantee it.

      what incentive would they have to drop the price? scorpio will be like £150 more anyway so its not like there competitive with price. someone who wants the most powerful thing will be a PC *cough* sorry scorpio 😛

    • Gamez Rule

      “they dropped very slowly by small amounts over years with the ps4”

      Not always… Example: The new PS4 Slim RRP = £259.99 ( now selling in some stores for £227.99 with Titanfall 2 ) console released September 15 2016 ( not even two month old and price drops taking place )

      This shows that even when selling price drops take place

    • Psionicinversion

      thats weird that there doing that. well when the scorpio comes out they will do exactly the same with that. Wish they sold pc parts and did that. funny thing is scorpio is going be slow compared to pc straight away. If nvidia does its usual thing, the 1180 will be about as powerful as the Titan X then Titan X rocks a full die and AMD will probably only release a vega 10 300mm die and disappoint everyone which i hope not

    • Gamez Rule

      Console buyers 99% of the time don’t care about PC or what it offers, as all they want is a console that all their friends use allowing them to party-chart with each other while playing online without all the PC over-heads.

      Most parents just get what children ask for when it comes to gaming, and IMO this gen is PS4 and no matter what MS do with Scorpio I can’t see that changing anytime soon.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah and PC gamers 99% of the time dont care about console and the lack of stuff it offers. Its strange you seem to be very pro playstation for some reason atm.

      i dunno how scorpio is going play out but £700 lol, next time your in game tell them if there going order in any scorpios at that price limit it to 2 consoles because thats the amount its going sell.

    • Gamez Rule

      Well I have a nice PC, have the xbone, and will be getting PS4-Pro on release, so if that makes me very pro playstation for seeing prices, and what is out on the market so be it.

    • Psionicinversion

      fair enough. How does the Pro have more support to the gamer? sony seems to be doing less and less and MS is doing more and more cus its got no choice but to do more and more. I arent bothered cus it doesnt affect me but i dont see it tbh.

    • Gamez Rule

      More games, more choice of games to select from, better priced consoles, more choice of consoles to buy, more gaming choices to play games ( VR ), more games with extra content, exclusives not on PC, all PS4’s now HDR, etc etc etc.

    • Psionicinversion

      More choice of games yeah ill give it that one. More choice of consoles.. well yeah by 1.

      well the exclusives… pfft not really for me on either console tbh. im playing UC4 atm and tbh im bored. the first 4 hours was boring, it might be starting pick up a little bit now im just past the part where your climbing around beneath the cathedral in scotland and you hear Raffe and Nadine talking. i dunno if its just me tbh.

      i havnt really liked any playstation exclusive that ive played and im not touching the xbox. have bought FH3 was pretty good. the only other game that might interest me is scalebound but thats just because i like Dragons, for example Game of Thrones the episode with the dragon in when they burnt that ship in the fleet ive watched that part about 30 times

    • jp

      where do you get the more games from? you have Horizon Zero Dawn in the near future and The Last Guardian, Xbox is getting: Cuphead, Scalebound, Crackdown 3, State Of Decay, Halo Wars 2, Sea Of Thieves and many more, so more games? no I dont think so, even less with God Of War and Death Stranding coming late 2019 at least….

      more choice of consoles? have you seen how many bundles the Xbox One has now? how many versions and colors? haha cmon man, all PS4 are now HDR? which games do you play on a regular PS4? right now none.

      VR? tech demos you mean, that give you nausea and discomfort?

      Im IN!!! hahahaha… u.u lame man sorry!

    • Gamez Rule

      “where do you get the more games from?”.. There are more released games for PS4 than Xbone mate. Look it up

    • jp

      doesnt mean all PS4 games are worth it, plus JRPG games are not for me, only advantage I see from PS4 game wise, I like FPS I stick to my Xbox One, thanks.

    • jp

      yeah but it will be half the cost of a PC with the same specs….

    • Psionicinversion

      But 3 times the fun! Wouldn’t be 2x as much anyway. Close but less

    • jp

      YES!

    • Mark

      Nah, it would be next gen if it had exclusives that’d only run on it. It’s just a suped up X1, like the Pro. Microsoft simply wanted to achieve native 4K across the board, and be able to run high end VR games. Now I will say, there will be VR exclusives on Scorpio, but thats only cuz the X1 couldn’t run them, and u won’t see Microsoft publishing a bunch of these VR games. Why? Too niche currently. They’d want to sell those on X1 too. So yeah it’s just a jump in spec bro

    • TPoppaPuff

      Except Scorpio is being treated as the same mid-gen boost, as seen by the total commitment at least the next three years after release to offering complete compatibility with Xbox One (with the exception of VR/AR).

    • jp

      exactly and proof is how retrocompatible the One is with the 360, MS would have no problem making all three console compatible.

    • Agent HUNK

      but no exclusives to play on it is the problem…. pro whipped quite a few exclusive games

    • kma99

      Ps pro doesn’t have exclusives either so what’s your point.

    • Agent HUNK

      you know what i mean…. dont lie to yourself there is no exclsive games to play on xbox after scalebound… ps4/pro has spiderman, days gone by, killing floor 2, etc … whats coming out for xbox/scorpio ??? I have both but have the s for 4k bluray ,gears,halo and backwards compatibility . otherwise after the s theres no reason to buy scorpio when theres no exclusives coming? maybe illlb e wrong and theyll blow us away at e3 with tons of xbox exclusives …?

    • kma99

      Ok ms cleo how do you know what games are coming out after scalebound? Unlike sony last e3 Microsoft didnt announce games that will be launching in 2018, 2019 and 2020? They have to release something, it might not br something you want to play but it will be games regardless. So again tell us how a gaming company gets away with not Releasing another game after scalebound? That’s right you have absolutely no clue.

    • Agent HUNK

      cause they have been showing the same games since xbox one launched… most were canned and the rest are finally coming out. I love the games I have for it but they worry that new games are not in their future and after scorpio hits theyll be done with the console race

    • kma99

      Dont give me your opinion i want facts. Sony showed uncharted for almost 3 years before it came out. What was the point in showing it if it wasnt coming out during thr immediate time frame? So please give me factual info since u claim to know so much.

    • jp

      Scalebound, Sea Of Thieves, Halo Wars 2, State Of Decay 2, those are coming near future, already being built, not pre alphas like GOW, Death Stranding? doesnt even have a game engine yet… Spiderman? good luck with that in 2020, knowing Sony delays games for years, what about GT? that was supposed to come out 2015… keep on waiting for broken promises bro.

    • jp

      you DO know those games are coming at least 2020, meanwhile what are you playing? Bloodborne? hahahahaha whatever, next year the Scorpio will kill the Pro.

    • Agent_Blade

      OK troll how do you know what year these games are coming out? Are you a executive at Sony? I doubt it.

    • jp

      its whats been happening m8, youre a fool if you dont see it, when the media says dont expect God Of War coming anytime soon, that means next year to you? or even 2018? I dont think so, maybe 2019 i give you that, death stranding? not even the game engine has been chosen, that at the least 3 years to launch, again late 2019, basically 2020 to get all those games, dont expect any different, what about The Last Guardian after 7 years? I mean cmon dude wake up.

    • MS

      And queue the fanboy troll.

    • Clint Hoffman

      Sony more than doubled their processing power, added a variety of features (extra multitasking ram) and gained in various other ways yet held a reasonable price. The Scoprio is still over a year away and based on the currently overpriced One S, I can’t see the new M$ system being a similar bargain. I’ll still buy the Scorpio but I the Sony Pro is still the best buy on the market for anyone still needing a system. The One S is still a piece of junk in comparison to the original PS4.
      And yes…I have a One S. ugghh…Can’t wait to trade it for Scorpio. 🙂

    • Mark

      U think $299 is overpriced? I don’t know man. I mean I’m not getting an S, my X1 Elite is enough, but the S comes with HDR and 4K BluRay. I hear alot of people love it.

    • Clint Hoffman

      I’m in Canada. Pricing is higher.
      The One S 500GB is $400.
      1TB version is $449.
      2TB is $549
      The PS4 Pro 1TB is $499.
      Best choice by a HUGE margin…the PS4 Pro.

    • Gamez Rule
    • Mark

      Well I never said the Pro wasn’t the overall better system. I said I disagree that the S model (500GB) is overpriced. So ok I won’t argue about this cuz basically everybody sees value in their own way. And no doubt if I was a last gen gamer ready to upgrade, I’d grab the Pro this holiday over the S….I feel u on that one.

    • Gamez Rule

      Nothing but problems with the UHD Blu-ray drives within Xbox S. MS have been made aware of these problems and have not yet addressed a fix for the issues.

    • Mark

      Yeah I’ve heard the 4K drive has “bleeding” issues or sumthin. What’s the percentage of people havin the problems tho? I’ve seen a number of Youtubers use and review it, and most of them don’t mention it. So I don’t know if it’s alot of people with issues or relatively small, don’t know. My guess is most people don’t have Issues.

    • Gamez Rule

      Loads of people having issues as the drives are the same models, so much so Phil has raised the problems to MS himself after it took to twitter etc.

    • Mark

      Wow, didn’t know it was big time like that. Yeah they need to do sumthin, don’t know what it’ll be tho lol

    • Gamez Rule

      Some people think a software update can fix issues, but others have stated it’s not software but hardware and that can be a problem.

    • Mark

      Can u say “RROD all over again”? Lmao. You’d think these guys learned their lesson. I hope it ain’t a hardware issue. It’s like Samsung bringing out Galaxy Note 7 and they start blowing up….don’t these people test this stuff?! Ahaha. Dam son. But I guess we’ll see

    • Mr Xrat

      Poor Kirk, still scared.

    • Agent_Blade

      May be so but they are trying to bring higher fidelity graphics and more stable frame rates to the mass market. Not everybody can afford high end PCs. Plus the Nvidia 1080 can barely do 4k by itself.

    • Psionicinversion

      thats what credit cards are for… pay it off over time!

  • LifeOnMars

    Well worth the money, but I will wait and see what bundles are available.

    • jp

      maybe in 2020 when that thing gets good games.

    • LifeOnMars

      If that’ s the case I can never see me buying an Xbox.

    • jp

      good 4 you!

    • LifeOnMars

      Never say Never, Who knows they may come up with a machine that takes my interest.
      But I doubt it will be Scorpio. Let’s see when it gets finaly released if it’s any good, as it’s all talk so far.

    • jp

      yup pretty much.

  • -youjustgotburned-

    $400 well spent.

  • Psionicinversion

    another article from gamingbolt that gets more wrong than right. why do you guys even bother?

    • Mark

      Lol. Show me a few examples Psionic, I wanna know what Arjun messed up on ahaha

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Just imagine Horizon: Zero Dawn, Detroit: Become Human, God of War 4, Spiderman, and Days Gone on this thing! Lawd!

    • Mark

      Yeah, those are gonna look sick

    • jp

      if not delayed right? I mean half those games are coming 2020…

    • Agent_Blade

      And how exactly do you know that? Got proof?…

    • jp

      got proof of the contrary?>

    • SkoolHouseRoxx

      Lol! You funny!

    • jp

      funny why? its not like all PS4 exclusives have been delayed. right?

    • SkoolHouseRoxx

      You know those aren’t coming in 2020 either.

    • Wow, you’re just going to troll *every* comment, aren’t you?

    • jp

      just pointing out things that have been happening lately…

    • Nothing is delayed to 2020. So that is an inaccurate statement.

    • jp

      it will, mark my words.

    • It won’t, and you have no proof or even reason to believe that it will. We’ll see all of these games before we see Crackdown 3.

    • jp

      Riiiiight buddy, yeah, dream on!

    • jp

      The Last Guardian, NMS, GT, Horizon Zero Dawn, all sony exclusives are delayed, and not just a little bit, want more proof? Hahaha

    • The very latest of the ones you mentioned will be released in 1Q 2017. You’re about three years shy.

  • Mark

    Like I said, people need not be so concerned with wether it’s NATIVE 4K, I mean most of us are console gamers! So I think the Pro’s gonna be a nice jump in graphics. I know I’d trade up for one if I had vanilla PS4.

    • Gamez Rule

      As long as games released are 1080p at 30 / 60 fps ( no problems ) I’ll be more than happy. When it gets placed on the 4k TV option it better not drop below 30 fps or that’s crazy

  • Barry Harden

    Expect the Scorpio to come out at $599 US if not more. Let that sticker shock sink in for a moment. Plus you still won’t get 4K@60fps with AAA games on the Scorpio. So why are you waiting a year for an overpriced crutch?

    • TPoppaPuff

      Wow, thank you for stealing that information from Microsoft headquarters on price. That’s impressive especially considering they themselves have yet to make a final decision on price and are likely closely following Pro sales to make their decision. You’re truly impressive.

    • Barry Harden

      It’s deductive reasoning. Look how much they’re charging for the XBone S and factor in the R&D and components. If they sold for less than $599US they will eat more losses. They won’t be selling for a profit that’s for sure.

    • Luke Skywalker

      deductive reasoning?
      how much is the UHD drive? the APU, memory chips, thermal paste, heat sink, fans, power supply, wireless chip, main board, assembly, other materials? how much profit or loss are they selling the xbox one S at?
      – saying if A is being sold at one price then B must be sold at double that price…..is an asinine way of thinking.

    • Psionicinversion

      you know board layout wise the scorpio will be exactly the same as the X1S, just needs a bigger box, better cooler, the APU should be about 40-50% larger than the ps4 pro apu and extra 4GB ram. thats all it is

    • Barry Harden

      The PS4 Pro is using AMD’s new process for cramming more “circuits” within the same amount of silicon real estate. For not that much more cost they are able to essentially put in two GPU’s in the same die compared to the one found in the original PS4.

      The Scorpio is using a new APU family also from AMD which “should” be released early next year. The costs involved with R&D and the components will likely make an introductory price of $599US a MINIMUM.
      I’m quite familiar with how a BOM(bill of materials) for one product would reflect on the final cost. Believe me when I tell you that a $599 price would still be sold at a loss for Micro$oft.

    • TPoppaPuff

      It’s reductive reasoning. You’re argument is based on costs you don’t know and believing that nothing else changes, so broad broad assumptions at best. And for Microsoft, getting their device into more homes is more important than initial profit and have roughly $4-5 billion to do so.

    • Barry Harden

      I have quite a good experience in how these costs are factored in. If you really think Micro$oft would make a profit from each Scorpio console at $599US then you have no clue how the consumer electronics business works.

    • TPoppaPuff

      Oh OK. well as long as you say you have good experience I believe you. You’re an expert.

  • TPoppaPuff

    Gamestop is offering a 20% bonus credit towards a trade in and is currently is giving $150 credit for base PS4, meaning it’s $180 off the $400 price tag. While I would’ve much prefered an official upgrade program through Sony’s partners for cheaper, $220 doesn’t sound too bad to me for an upgrade.If it smooths out frame drops in BF1 and TF2 and gives me a cleaner image I’ll be happy.

    • Luke Skywalker

      if they don’t patch the game to support ps4 pro then there will be little to no automatic improvements as far as what sony said about how they designed the pro. anyway, that’s a good trade in deal.

    • TPoppaPuff

      That’s true, but BF1 and TF2 are already confirmed for Pro support and those are the games I’ll play a ton of in the immediate future. Even Black Ops 3 is getting a pro upgrade, so should I go back to play that (and I loved that game), it will be even better than I remember. And hey, maybe this time all the textures will load. :p

    • Luke Skywalker

      Lol yeah I’m sure all the textures will load. Didn’t know bf1 was confirmed, but did they say what kind improvements though?

    • Psionicinversion

      BF1 has no choice because it was released after october 19th

    • Gamez Rule

      Over 30 games will support PS4 Pro when it comes out on 10th November. All first-party games launched during or after 2017 will take advantage of PS4 Pro ( Digital Foundry )

      Battlefield 1

      Battlezone

      Bound

      Call Of Duty: Black Ops 3

      Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare

      Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered

      Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

      Driveclub VR

      FIFA 17

      Firewatch

      Helldivers

      Hitman

      Hustle Kings

      inFAMOUS First Light

      inFAMOUS Second Son

      Knack

      Mafia 3

      Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

      NBA 2K17

      Paragon

      PlayStation VR Worlds

      Ratchet & Clank

      Rez Infinite

      RIGS Mechanized Combat League

      Rise Of The Tomb Raider

      Robinson: The Journey

      Smite

      Super Stardust Ultra

      The Elders Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited

      The Elders Scrolls Online: Skyrim Special Edition

      The Last Of Us Remastered

      The Last Of Us: Left Behind

      The Playroom VR

      Titanfall 2

      Tumble

      Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End

      Until Dawn: Rush of Blood

      Viking Squad

      World Of Tanks

      XCOM 2

    • Psionicinversion

      actually its mandatory that all games after october 19th 2016 needs a pro option although they might not enforce any small titles i dunno. but generally all AAA needs to have a pro mode

    • Gamez Rule

      Think it’s up to devs mate?

    • Psionicinversion

      No there was an official Sony document or something ages that said that

    • Gamez Rule

      Don’t think it will be mandatory mate.

    • Psionicinversion

      it is. it said in the thing that all games must have a pro mode to make it better than the standard version whether its framerate, graphics or resolution. it has to be better. whether theyve changed there mind on it or not i dunno. But if every game released on it from now on has a pro mode. thats is why

    • Gamez Rule

      They left it up to devs mate. I’m 99% sure that’s how it’s left

    • Luke Skywalker

      ok….what’s the point of posting all that without even answering my question? just wanted to know what kind of enhancements bf1 would be getting, not what games were or will be patched

    • Gamez Rule

      Didn’t know bf1 was confirmed?..So posted games 100% confirmed

    • extermin8or2

      It’s optional how devs implement support but support itself is mandatory. Which technique is used and to what ends is down to devs.

    • jp

      probably just HDR and a stable frame rate, the Pro cant really do much anyway.

    • TPoppaPuff

      Not from what I’ve seen. The game as is doesn’t maintain a native 1080 so I suspect that much like Titanfall 2 it will run above 1080 but lack the faux 4K checkerboard rendering of say Call of Duty that has been the big talking point from Sony. Still though, ap rettier version of Battlefield One sounds alright to me. 🙂

    • Luke Skywalker

      Hmm makes sense

    • jp

      playing FPS with a Xbox One Elite > DS4.

    • TPoppaPuff

      Meh, I’m not going to pay $150 for a single controller with no real benefit to me and I don’t think the Xbox One controller is really any better than the PS4 controller anyway. Those triggers and shoulder buttons on the X1 suck. They’re terrible.

      Actually right now my current favorite controller is PS4 with X1 sticks. Those sticks feel better on PS4 controllers than I even notice on X1 controllers. In truth, I MIGHT be willing to spend $150 on a controller but only if it was a 360 controller with X1 sticks and X1 dpad. that layout was superior and it’s stupid for MS to change it merely for the sake of change. The new layout’s triggers are anti-FPS whereas the 360 is a trigger they way it should feel and feels more responsive because of it.

    • jp

      you forgot to put, ‘in my opinion’, no benefit for you because you are filthy casual probably, using the backside paddles and your thumbs never leaving the sticks are a BIG benefit, if you know how to take advantage of it, obviously you just accepted you couldnt and its fine, but saying the X1 controller is not better in every way to the DS4 is plain fanboy statement, those parallel sticks suck for FPS, stick to you subpar controller m8.

    • TPoppaPuff

      No, a filthy casual needs paddles on the back of his controller to even attempt to attain my level of dexterity. They’re like training wheels for kiddies. If you know how to claw, especially southpaw claw, then you realize that those paddles actually puts a limit on your ability since you can’t maximize your hands’ dexterity thus achieving max capability. Why would you waste your second best asset on your hand, your index finger’s range and accuracy, on something so rote as pulling a trigger? That’s a stupid waste better suited for your middle finger.

      And those parallel sticks are fine if you’re any good. They rebalanced the controller from the DS3’s and changed the sticks, and the sticks I’m using are X1 sticks anyways. The only way that controller’s a problem is if you’re holding the controller wrong or have tiny baby hands

      Get gud, filfycaz fanboy. Or live in your cryhard bubble of delusion. Not my problem. 😉

    • jp

      You are lame, comparing skills with someone you dont even know or even have played with? No no littlw kid, just because you wont accept the Elite is a better controller, you sound plain dumb, I Gotz madz skillz…, of at all you are retarded buddy.

    • jp

      Any person unable to accept how good the Elite is, is automatically a fanboy, there is nothing not to love about that controller, but have it your way bud.

  • jp

    Sea Of Thieves, Crackdown 3, State Of Decay 2, Scalebound, Halo Wars 2, and many more, we dont have to wait for 2020 for games… good luck Sony players, you will be waiting with multiplatform games like you always do until you get a Bloodborne or an Uncharted 4, plus real 4K, getting an Scorpio is a no brainer…

  • Rayan

    36 CUs @author not 32.


 

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