DirectX 12 Might Not Have A Big Effect On Xbox One, Mostly Targeted For PC: Flying Wild Hog

But having one API across multiple platforms decreases development time, says Lead Engine Programmer Krzysztof Narkowicz.

Shadow Warrior (8)

Earlier this week, Flying Wild Hog confirmed to GamingBolt that the Xbox One version of Shadow Warrior will run at 900p compared to the PS4 version which will support 1080p resolution. Following up on our conversation with the game’s Lead Engine Programmer Krzysztof Narkowicz and Michal Szustak,CEO and Game Director, we asked the duo whether DirectX 12 will bring any benefits to games development on Xbox One.

Krzysztof Narkowicz stated that, “It’s targeted at lowering draw call overhead on PC, which isn’t such a big issue on Xbox One, as some low level access is already available there. On the other hand having one API across multiple platforms decreases development time”. This indicates that DX 12 will have more impact on PC compared to the Xbox One but in the end development time [and probably costs] will be brought down across the two platforms.

The situation can be compared to AMD’s Mantle who are also solving the same issue of allowing developers to program PC games close to the metal similar to console games development. There is a reason why Mantle may not be available for PS4 and Xbox One since they already have low level API access.

We also asked Krzysztof  whether they faced any difficulties in porting Shadow Warrior on the Xbox One. “The hardware is very similar to PS4. Xbox One is using familiar APIs like DirectX. Adding Xbox One support after having a PS4 version up and running was an easy task,” he added.

Shadow Warrior makes it debut on current generation of consoles this Summer.

This is just a snippet of our interview with Flying Wild Hog and we will have more in the coming days.


  • You Are Flat Out Wrong & Salty

    Windows-based PC only. A win-won solution. ;)

    • GodGamerDerp

      Steambox baby!

    • Jack Joyce

      You’re actually going to get a Steambox? Hoping that’s sarcasm.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Lol

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Exactly! What we be the point in that if you can just build a PC and have Steam OS on it?

    • Psionicinversion

      that is a steambox anyway… a pc with steam OS on haha. Was funny when Alienware said theyd make the least money on it… BS cus they overcharge for everything… you want us put a sticker on thats £50 (sarcasm but they do overcharge alot of the time) bt the worst part is you cant pick your hardware… its a a generic thing i think

    • Psionicinversion

      the good thing is though the PC/steambox will be £100 cheaper cus you wont have pay for a windows license

    • Guest

      What wrong with that? Its still better than a Xbox

    • Jack Joyce

      WoW you’re retarded. A budget PC is stronger than BOTH an X1 and PS4. (If you know what you’re doing)

      If you’re going to go the lazy way with PC gaming and get Steam OS (Which is horribly optimized right now) and an overpriced Steambox. Then you deserve to get penny pinched.

      People can spend their money on what ever they want but you’re not a person to say what’s “better” to other people.

    • jent

      How much is in your budget? Decent graphics cards are expensive.

    • Jack Joyce

      You do know what a budget PC is right? Purchasing a decent Motherboard and Case while building onto the platform slowly. If you save up your cash by budgeting dough from what you make you can easily afford a decent GPU. CPU/RAM are pretty cheap.

    • Guest

      ^
      This from the ret*rd that spent $500 on a inferior system like the X1. Talking sh*t to me about wasting my money on a Steambox (which i wouldnt btw, im not that stupid, but obviously you are, since you spent the cost of a Steambox for an inferior system). But you’re downplaying it like its so stupid to, when its even dumber to spend $500 on a X1. Then you wanna b*tch about SteamOS being unoptimized, when the X1’s API, is horribly unoptimized, hence why they are trying to sell you on DX12 (which btw is based on the same horribly optimized X1 API). You definitely got what you deserve. CRAP! absolute and utter crap! And p.s. I know a cheap PC can be more powerful than a PS4 or X1, cuz im not dumb and delusional like you. And im not telling people what to spend their money on, you were.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Don’t even bother. Explaining to the peasantry that a PC set up with a Six core AMD FX and R270X will easily outpower a PS4 even with 4GB DDR3 channeled because “BUT THE POWER OF THE 8GB GDDR5 AND ITS ONLY 4GB” gets tiring (And you will easily be peaking over 200GB bandwith with the card. DDR3 is just surplus bandwith for background tasks. You don’t need that much. GPU easily takes care of resolution and framerate in collab with the CPU)

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major. Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4 exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”, they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games. Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended 6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20 case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price? $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs. Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.

  • RA3030

    Oh no! So the secret sauce went sour? The Xbox One Cable Box will not magically become 45X more powerful because DooDoo X12. That’s heart breaking. I was gonna get the XBOCB but what’s the point now.

    • Gamez Rule

      “Oh no! So the secret sauce went sour?”…. Another… BAM! There It Is moment for Xbone☺

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpnaAZjKG4

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Always lingering in the past. Multiple backends?! Hmmmm…wonder what that is. BAM!

    • Dirty Sanchez

      Hey wheres agent,last guardian, and the 2012 e3 showing of watch dogs?You bum!!

    • SniStre Zyx

      -_- not dx 12 its the cloud who double 43x the power google it

    • GodGamerDerp

      Xbox will still have good exclusive games even if it’s weaker hardware.

    • Psionicinversion

      what the fcking h3ll derp… have you got multiple personalities and a schizophrenic cus your usually saying how rubbish the x1 is and nothing good will come from it and ps4 is best… then you say you have a 780, then a 780Ti… now your saying xbox will have good exclusive even on weaker hardware cus it is all about the gameplay but your usually say yeah but oh if it ran on ps4 it would better… it would still the same game. your absolutely crazy mate…

    • GodGamerDerp

      You figured me out.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah it could be dakan in all honesty but hes on dualshockers to and havnt seen extremederp or ps4lol since yesterday i think so could be his 3rd, 4th, 5th alter ego i just dont know

    • Guest

      He cant be dakan, cuz im dakan45. God this is getting so confusing.

    • Psionicinversion

      how do i know your dakan45? were you on dualshockers with like 20 different names like 900p_30fps_ps4 or someat?

    • Guest

      I know right, and how do you know im not you and youre not somebody else? Your mind blown yet? Just goes to show how you cant trust anything on here. who do you really think i am though? take a guess.

    • Psionicinversion

      i dont know probably xtremederp… im taking a back seat from most of it now cus its pointless attacking a dev for developing for a specific system when ya see how $hit multi plats go down and the amount of problems. seems like a waste of time… might poke the fire a bit if i get bored but not going go full mental like i used to

    • Psionicinversion

      actually you cant be dakan45 cus its all or nothing he goes absolutely mental and you arent but he makes me laugh so much with his you all lick sony’s dck, choking on sony’s dck etc… hilarious so you cant be

    • Guest

      Good guess and you have him so figured out, the guy cant help but sounding like himself all the time. But yeah, i hear ya on the laying low cuz both systems are just weak letdowns.

    • Psionicinversion

      i might actually get a PS4 next year pends how things go, i cannot do gamepads for fps’s, last console i owned was a N64 and played star fox and golden eye but had a PC for like 15 years, i dunno maybe id pick it back up again but a mouse for an fps is so much easier your hands go where your eyes do, like a reflex action but for like driveclub and project cars its easier cus you can hold a turn without tapping say D to try keep it in a long turn hold. but project cars PC defo i dunno ill see how i feel

    • Psionicinversion

      i think the main fcking problem with PC’s is the consoles they seem to spend tons of time optimising thr consoles and do fck all for PC’s so its run fairly similar the PC will always have the upper hand but when they cant be bothered to optimise its not going be far enough. DX12 is going be awesome, nvidia already done CPU optimisation on the 337’s and thats boosting by alot so when its across the board, hopefully game devs dont think ah dx12 and nvidia amd drivers will save us… so im wondering if theyll do even less optimisation

    • Guest

      They seem to be doing less optimization than last gen to me. So thats probably what will happen, they’ll less of it like you’re thinking. Devs sure do like it easier.

    • jent

      Can you unlock your posting history Derp? Please.

    • Guest

      First of all how do youknow he’s really derp, and not some other guy trying to impersonate him. And 2.) you’re the absolutely crazy mate.

    • Psionicinversion

      hmm read below haha

  • Nohavename Tenhonome

    PC and PS4 wins,the cry is free

    • GodGamerDerp

      Troll

    • MikeL

      Windows and Xbox wins – single game version = low cost = lead platform(s) = better optimization on Xbox/Windows

    • XboxSupportersHaveNoPrinciples

      Wrong.. Everyone loses with Microsoft. You’re going to find out the hard way.. just like I have trust me.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Nope.

      Only PC wins. 800P 30FPS downgraded games is unacceptable.

    • Guest

      Only PC wins and Xbox One with DX12. Your PoS4 has poor LibGCM API, which is for pauperprogrammers.

  • Dynasty2021

    I don’t really see the point of DX12.

    It’s not like the devs will use it much as the new consoles aren’t powerful enough even at DX11 so far, proven by every game released to date on the new systems.

    This will benefit small, PC-only devs releasing great games like The Forest etc, that don’t have to worry about rubbish hardware performance on consoles.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Hardwares are already powerful, yet a significant amount of it isn’t used to it’s potential. Making faster hardwares through smarter software, has always been THE mainstay for developers. You can introduce new hardware, but developers develop software not hardware for general use.

      Dx12 has the huge opportunity on the XOne for multithreading, don’t see how past on that or maybe you don’t know better.

    • GodGamerDerp

      DX12 will mainly benefit CPU bound PC games like Brad Wardell’s Starswarm demo, or any game that has above average CPU demands.

    • Replace

      And tonight Mathew I’m going to be… PS4lol or maybe extremederp or GodGamerDerp. Just go away.

    • Cinnamon267

      It will only benefit big developers since they are the ones who “require” all teh performance. Small games won’t get much out of it because it isn’t required. But, DX12/Mantle are good steps for the industry. Devs on the PC side of things are insanely excited for a reason.

  • JerkDaNERD7

    That is ALWAYS what hampered developers last gen. Porting what they developed on PC onto console. With Dx12, “time” is reduced but significant amount of the code isn’t tampered with. Also, his speaking from a conventional method of development. There are features on the Dx12 that will be utilized in XOne.

    Also just recently announced, talented developers can use multiple backends with Mantle AND Dx12 integration. Which further confirms whether Microsoft had a hand in Mantle’s design.

    It’s very difficult to design an API like Mantle, and it’s odd in how easily it was picked up and utilized by developers already. The “lingual” similarities of Dx and Mantle are too similar to overlook and NOT notice the obvious. So whoever is using Mantle NOW, will have the easiest transition to Dx12 when wholly released in holiday of 2015

    • GodGamerDerp

      Easier porting yes.

      “Xbox One is the biggest beneficiary; it effectively gives every Xbox One owner a new GPU that is twice as fast as the old one” No, not unless the game was severely CPU bound.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      And who did you quote that from? As if it had anything to do with what I stated, lol! If you don’t know the facts move on. Don’t be a typical fanboy and divert the subject all-together. Not falling for it.

      Pretty much all triple A games go through sever CPU-bound scenarios, but that’s not the point here. It’s not directly about making GPUs more powerful as if to magically increase it’s power.

      The point is Dx12 helps reduce CPU overhead drastically therefore significantly increasing a GPU’s draw calls, as a result allowing more 3D objects on the end user’s screen. This makes 3D graphics more compelling, it’s not about higher resolutions or increased pixels. This lessens the developers use of large batch executions.

      On top of this is unlocking the 8 cores in the APU for multi-threading, further alleviating the GPU from being under-utilized. This utilized with other features on Dx12, you have a game that has a whole lot going on screen at any one time with dynamic lighting and very detailed and unique textures. There is more to graphics fidelity than higher resolutions.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Uh no. More draw calls are useless if the GPU isn’t bottlenecked by the CPU in the first place.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      This isn’t about resolutions. Also, re-read my comment. It specifically states why there will be more GPU draw calls, because of CPU/API overhead reduction.

      Please refrain from making a point if you don’t understand it.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Keep chugging that special sauce kool-aid and being constantly wrong.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      No, your chugging the kool-aid, lol! I’m enjoying this cajun sauce right here….the sauce is REAL! lol,…

  • CervantesPR

    Another xbox unicorn fairy tale shut down again. Xbox unicorns will damage control

    • GodGamerDerp

      The secret sauce lives!

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Meanwhile Sony Shills still believe MisterTiduXMedia’s power boost by the blessed ICE team while praising a gimped Netbook processor that runs at 1.84 TF while PC cards priced $160 are doing 2.70 TF and easily outpowering the consoles.

      Two sides shilling. Master race on the throne laughing.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s
      good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and
      reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re
      constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been
      downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive
      launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major.
      Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4
      exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both
      PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different
      pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a
      higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires
      time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some
      interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split
      memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a
      mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture
      benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of
      price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better
      than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only
      and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too
      poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and
      maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand
      dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and
      Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off
      screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”,
      they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in
      building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a
      comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless
      they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive
      compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article
      full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about
      peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who
      don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a
      gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC
      gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other
      F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get
      the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games.
      Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is
      obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything
      including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales
      sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to
      play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League
      of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics
      advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox
      globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st
      party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party
      studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net
      profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every
      time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all
      the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs
      to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s
      still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless
      and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical
      drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen
      crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended
      6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20
      case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s
      take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License
      (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent
      mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price?
      $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs.
      Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.,

    • XboxSupportersHaveNoPrinciples

      Like Crapgamer, Arsonall187 and Zaire and his braindead group of degenerates? :) Haha!

    • CervantesPR

      crapgamer thinks sony is going to lose E3 cuz he thinks project beast is the only “megaton” being announced LOL this guy is such a delusional xbox unicorn corporate slave, if sony didnt have a huge show, they wouldnt be showing it in theaters.

  • Rai

    You guys see these hypocrites taking this guys opinion as absolute, while they were on the other articles calling devs take on Dx12 on the opposite end bs?
    Or is it just me?

    • GodGamerDerp

      Some of us understand the effect DX12 will have on game performance and know it’s not as simple as “2x performance on every game” like Brad Wardell claimed.

      DX12 will mainly benefit CPU bound PC games like Brad Wardell’s Starswarm demo, or any game that has above average CPU demands.

    • Rai

      Never said it’d be and that’s not the point of the comment.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Derp you still think an entry level 1.84TF GPU and a netbook tier CPU is “Mid-Range”. You aren’t qualified to talk about anything technical.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major. Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4 exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”, they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games. Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended 6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20 case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price? $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs. Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Same old copypaste that contradicts itself. Apparently I’m an xbot and a mustard ricer at the same time.

      PC is the master race :^)

    • Guest

      Stop crying, common sense should tell you these guys are right, and the other guys wrong. Peace my fanny!

    • Rai

      I’m reading this multiple ways. Was that sarcasm?
      And did you just alter my “my ninja” thing? >_>

  • ME3X12

    Hey dummies this developer has never working with DX12 so he is just giving his opinion. Developers who have been working on DX12 including AMD Nvidia and Intel have already said it’s going to give the X1 a good boost in performance. So moral of the stroy here is don’t listen to this developer who has never worked on it you listen to the developers who have been working on it.

    • GodGamerDerp

      A boost in performance in CPU bound games.

    • ME3

      And you’re a developer so you’d know?…. thought not.

    • ME3X12

      There have been a few developers who are already working on the DX12 API including Nvidia and AMD and they have all said yes the X1 will get a nice boost.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Keep those arguments by authority coming while ignoring the evidence and tech knowledge.

    • ME3

      You don’t know everything about DX12 the same as me and everyone else so stop pretending and just wait and see.

    • DLConspiracy//

      Your crusade is tireless. I hope you are getting paid. Just because how much work you actually do for a corporation. You should at least hit them up and get on the bill. You might get 1/2 as much as you would have, but at least it’s something.

    • Guest

      Dude, its no more tireless than your crusade. I see you all over the place, are you getting paid to post? At least he says intelligent things, you just post middle of the road nonsense.

    • DLConspiracy//

      Unfortunately there isn’t a corporation for PC’s, Xbox and PS that pays out. Unless you know of a place that has a union for all gaming platforms I am not aware of. I would gladly take one for the team of gamers. Instead of this fanboy nonsense. Go ahead and assume though. You are good at that “guest”. Don’t talk to me unless you want to debate things openly btw. Don’t be a chicken sh*t poster afraid to speak their mind without a handle.

    • GodGamerDerp

      You’re a microsoft fanboy that hates the idea that
      ~3.5 million more people wanted a PS4 because it was less expensive and more powerful.

      Keep spinning and downplaying while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Derp in full damage control shill mode when called out immediately claims “Microsoft fanboy” as usual. Can’t get over the fact there is a PC master race and gets upset because not everyone will universally praise Sony’s netbook tier hardware.

      Hilarious.

    • Guest

      He’s a pauper. He can’t afford proper gaming, yet wants all his low IQ brethren to believe the make.belief that his PauperStation can do the same, WHICH IT CAN’T! HAHAHAHAHA!

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.,

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support have microsoft fanboys extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      You sound upset that PS4 is the more powerful console, has more developer support, a large number of 1st party studios, and is outselling Xbox by ~3.5 million. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major. Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4 exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”, they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games. Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended 6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20 case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price? $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs. Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Derp running out of arguments so hard he’s posting copy paste that contradicts itself.

      PC is the master race :^)

    • dlconspiracy

      Doesnt matter to me about sales numbers because I dont base my enjoyment off popularity like you. Graduated highschool and college a long time ago. This aint middle school fella.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

    • Guest

      Oh stop being a b*tch? My handle is guest, dont like it, tough sh*t. And why would i care to talk to you about anything, when you’re obviously a closest fanboy. And you dont even know it. You’re always whining to the Sony fanboys even when there are hideous MS fanboy spewing their bullsh*t. Yet you say nothing to them and instead you get mad at people posting facts. Guess the truth upsets you.

    • dlconspiracy

      I wish I was cool enough to only like one platform at a time. Then I could get free hand jobs from all my fanboy buddies. I dont care if someone wants an xbox one but you guys are always forcing your preferences on others. I am willing to admit that ps4 is stronger hardware. I never argue it. You guys however are on a conquest to make every persons preferences about which is better. Constantly having to spew your hate to anyone that may have some points about one platforms strengths over the other. Thats my only issue with your points. Its not about fact its about trying to hate on people bcause someone doesnt happen to like something you worship as much as you. I really dont care what people own just tired of it being about the better console. People like xbox too and they can if they want. Just like PS4 or the better graphics on PC. Dont act like you are so supior and only ps4 has games and this wont be an issue. You guys will putdown down developers just because they got paid to make a game elsewhere. Thats not a gamer in the least. So dont give me your bs accusations when you make it apparent that you are on someones payroll or have some serious insecurities.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.,,,

  • Reason Freeman

    Who is this person?? Oh…someone who is guessing and doesn’t really know. And a dev noones heard of. I’ll listen to the devs who actually have been hands on

    • GodGamerDerp

      You want to remain willfully ignorant, sad.

    • ME3

      The sad thing is how much time you spend here without any first hand knowledge telling people what they should think.

    • Guest

      You’re thinking of the wrong guy, dumba$$. Also, Reason Freeman is guilty of the same thing. Why dont you complain to him about it too?

    • ME3

      Erm no actually I’m not. He has many accounts… dumba$$. Reason Freeman is not pretending to know things and then passing them off as if they are facts, big difference.

    • Guest

      Reason Freegirl said (and i quote) “Who is this person?? Oh…someone who is guessing and doesn’t really know. And a dev noones heard of.” Sounds like he’s pretending to know things and pass them of as fact to me. When really its just his fanboy deluded opinion. And it seems to me like you’re not to smart either for not being able to obviously tell and state what you just stated.

    • ME3

      Seems to me you have problems with basic reading and understanding. Clearly you also have a problem with Freeman. That’s fine with me, it’s your opinion but your immaturity is very evident in calling him Freegirl.

    • Guest

      I have a problem with basic reading and understanding? You have problem with basic reading and understanding. And your the immature fool acting like a childish fanboy. And i dont think its fine you at all, you seem bothered by it. Why? is he your boyfriend?

    • Guest

      Its not willful, he cant help it. He worships his lord to much.

    • Guest

      What’s the matter, dont like the truth? I mean common sense could have told you that. And he is a developer thats made a game for both systems and has a much better understanding of this stuff than you do, ugly man!

  • TristanPR77

    Adding Xbox One support after having a PS4 version up and running was an easy task,” he added.

    And that’s the way it will be this gen. Developers will work first the PS4 which is easier and more powerful and then add support for the x1 version if any.

    Also, this is not the first developers saying the same about DX12 but I don’t expect any X1 owner to acknowledge it since they rather live in denial than facing the truth.

    • Zac

      I was thinking that they will optimize the game on PC, as it is first created on that (resource rich) hardware, then convert it to PS4. After all the fine tuning is done, drop the resolution and put it on the X1. Because by the time it hits Xbox, its all a matter of will it have the bandwidth? NO?, try 900 or 720p, Or..

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      You are hilarious in implying PS4 will keep 1080P with its limited hardware.

      Good shill. You get a raise.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s
      good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and
      reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re
      constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been
      downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive
      launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major.
      Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4
      exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both
      PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different
      pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a
      higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires
      time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some
      interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split
      memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a
      mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture
      benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of
      price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better
      than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only
      and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too
      poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and
      maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand
      dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and
      Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off
      screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”,
      they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in
      building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a
      comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless
      they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive
      compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article
      full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about
      peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who
      don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a
      gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC
      gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other
      F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get
      the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games.
      Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is
      obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything
      including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales
      sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to
      play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League
      of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics
      advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox
      globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st
      party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party
      studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net
      profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every
      time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all
      the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs
      to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s
      still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless
      and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical
      drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen
      crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended
      6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20
      case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s
      take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License
      (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent
      mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price?
      $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs.
      Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      So it’s third in line now as developers realize that it’s easier to optimse the PC port and make it sing with 1440P capable hardware and more gaming focused Operating Systems.

      Hilarious. Second place Sony and third place Microsoft blown out once more by the PC Master Race

    • XboxSupportersHaveNoPrinciples

      You trully have no life kid.,. I’ve been sticking my head in the door all day.. and this is literally your career on here! Bravo! Another PC Gaming Elitist Nerd who treats our hobby as a lifestyle.. which it isn’t! Bravo Poindextor! Bravo!

    • Jecht_Sin

      What are you doing in all forums? Don’t you have Watch Dogs for PC to debug?

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      Already fixed. Couple of AA injectors and it now looks E3 2012 worthy.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_9dMN9kJh8

      And you are forever stuck with 900P 30FPS.

      That is why PC is the master race. We can make games even better from what the developer envisioned.

    • Psionicinversion

      did yours work straight away cus when i try it it keeps crashing the game on loadup?

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s
      good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and
      reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re
      constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been
      downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive
      launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major.
      Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4
      exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both
      PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different
      pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a
      higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires
      time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some
      interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split
      memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a
      mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture
      benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of
      price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better
      than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only
      and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too
      poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and
      maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand
      dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and
      Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for
      multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and
      maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off
      screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”,
      they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in
      building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a
      comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless
      they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive
      compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article
      full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about
      peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who
      don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a
      gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC
      gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other
      F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get
      the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games.
      Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is
      obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything
      including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales
      sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to
      play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League
      of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics
      advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox
      globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st
      party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party
      studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net
      profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every
      time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all
      the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs
      to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s
      still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless
      and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical
      drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen
      crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended
      6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20
      case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s
      take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License
      (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent
      mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price?
      $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs.
      Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.,,

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      PC master race advantage: Our arguments are clear and coherent. Unlike this.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly wrong.

      No Sony exclusive 1st party games have been downgraded from their initial reveals. Every major Xbox One exclusive launch game was downgraded from its reveal, some minor and some major. Microsoft fanboys are desperately trying to pin anything on a PS4 exclusive.

      The real “god gaming race” owns both a good PC and consoles, and they find your lies and ignorance disgraceful.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one.

      PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

      PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other GPGPU customizations. PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF considering the APU and GPGPU architecture benefits and low level single platform coding. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

      Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

      Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, high end PCs are best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort to build and maintain one. Only deranged fanboys keep chewing their own legs off screaming about “PS4 peasants”.

      Mustards don’t have “a point”, they just hate anyone who doesn’t have the time, money, or interest in building and maintaining a PC, and hate the fact that consoles offer a comparable gaming experience and exclusive games they can’t have. Unless they grow up and buy a console themselves, which isn’t that expensive compared to their imaginary quad SLI 4k PCs.

      Oh boy, an article full of mustard racers chewing their own legs off screaming about peasants and bad PC ports. Not sure how they can hate other people who don’t have the time, money, and/or interest in building and maintaining a gaming PC.

      High end PCs will always be a tiny market, most PC gaming is done on low end PCs playing League of Legends, WoW, or other F2P or MMOs. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry, they’ll get the majority of developer focus most of the time in multiplatform games. Just because someone builds a $1000+ PC doesn’t mean anyone is obligated to make games for them.

      I assume you pirate everything including Windows. PC master parasite more like it. Console game sales sustain the AAA industry. If it were all PC most games would be free to play or always online MMO type games that can’t be pirated, i.e. League of Legends, World of Warcraft, etc.

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      It seems most people are ignoring attempts to downplay PS4’s stronger hardware and buying PS4s anyway.

      Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      “IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, NOBODY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, STOP BUYING PS4S!”

      Every time another article arrives where PS4 runs better than Xbox One, all the microsoft xbox shills come crawling out hiding behind high end PCs to attack it. Transparently sad and pathetic damage control. Sorry, it’s still underpowered and overpriced and most people don’t want it.

      Clueless and deceptive PC “builds” that leave out any accessories, an optical drive, or the $90 Windows license, cute. I love how the “next gen crusher” only has 4GB DDR3 RAM, under Watch Dogs minimum recommended 6GB, a CPU that Watch Dogs will choke on, and a bargain basement $20 case and $27 PSU. That thing would die trying to run Watch Dogs, LOL.

      Let’s take the $412.86 “next gen crusher” add the $90 Windows 8 License (because we’re not pirating parasites like you), and $50 for a decent mouse and keyboard that won’t fall apart after a month. Actual price? $552.82 for a PC that doesn’t even meet the minimum Watch Dogs PC specs. Whoops.

      All you’re doing is proving you don’t know the real price of building a PC.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      lol

      PC is the master race :^)

  • Choming Girl

    I can’t believe on this news because of http://goo.gl/XI0lwP

  • Cinnamon267

    This was agonizingly obvious to anyone who knows even the slightest about these API’s.

    • GodGamerDerp

      This blog is crammed full of delusional microsoft shills who don’t know the slightest thing about them.

  • incendy

    “On the other hand having one API across multiple platforms decreases development time”.
    This right here is the key. Games like Forza built from the ground up for Xbox One are already optimized. But developers typically build their engines around the PC. DirectX12 allows them to write code on the PC that will already lay the groundwork for very performant code on the Xbox One.
    Also not mentioned in this article, but one of the key things in DX12 is the ability to flag tasks to run parallel. On PC’s this isn’t a very widely available option so very few engines, methods take advantage of parallel computing, DX12 is trying to take the work out of that. It is a higher level API call but it is very important, especially to the Xbox One, which is built around parallel computing. Developers aren’t going to spend years optimizing their code for Xbox One, but DX12’s api allow the developers to optimize for Xbox One by default.

  • GHz

    Rashid, stop confusing your readers with these smear induced headlines and give the factual story in full. You have a responsibility to keep your emotions and preference in check and just stick to the facts and avoid twisting what these developers are saying based on what they know or NOT know. That’s right, not all developers have the same access to info.

    When he said

    “It’s targeted at lowering draw call overhead on PC, which isn’t such a big issue on Xbox One” it doesn’t translate to XB1 won’t benefit significantly from DX12. The fact is it will, because the platform was designed for DX12. That is XB1’s true API.

    If you believe otherwise will be a Total contradiction to what a developer who have access to the DX12 said.

    “The results are spectacular. Not just in theory but in practice (full disclosure: I am involved with the Star Swarm demo which makes use of this kind of technology.) While each generation of video card struggles to gain substantial performance over the previous generation, here, the same hardware will suddenly see a doubling of performance.

    Here’s the demo in question.

    http://youtu.be/qT6NeZSS3_8

    He continues to say, “XBox One is the biggest beneficiary; it effectively gives every Xbox One owner a new GPU that is twice as fast as the old one.”

    Now you have to understand that he spoke out of turn when he said this. He wasn’t suppose to say anything too revealing because MS have their partners in mind and must consider their position. Which is they haven’t yet released their new APU’s. Any talk about an existing hardware that can already benefit fully from dx12 can affects their (AMD/Nvidia) next generation of APU sales. hence the backtracking and the secrecy MS and their partners are under.

    Here’s an example of that. here he is defending what he said and pointing out AMD and Nvidia, The partners I spoke of above, Agrees with him.

    AMD and NVidia agree with my analysis of DirectX 12 and the XBox One: http://t.co/0ZOXXc5D9t— Brad Wardell (@draginol) April 8, 2014

    By the 12th however when asked about his involvement with Dx12 and XB1, his answer is, ” NDA”

    • GodGamerDerp

      LOL! More deranged misterxturd conspiracy theories.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

    • GHz

      From what we’re actually seeing so far (Quantum Break), and based on what developers are saying, there are enough differences to warrant different approaches to development. Derp you are so confused and bloated with FUD, you fail to realize this. Stick your finger down your throat and throw up all that garbage inside you. Then go outside and get some air.

    • GodGamerDerp

      LOL no.

      You are wrong. PS4’s hardware is more powerful. End of story.

    • GHz

      I didn’t say ps4 was NOT more powerful. That being said, xbox seem to be delivering on the graphic end. Now QB is the new benchmark for graphics in a action platform game, then forza horizon 2 looks like it’s on some super next gen presentation on the driving end. XBox is delivering my ps4 not! If i hear anymore bad news on the games front I’m trading it in. This is getting ridiculous. So far aside from 3rd party games running on old engines, ps4 is not measuring up to XB1 1st party offering. All talk no show, thats the ps4 right now & Im beginning to feel cheated.

  • Guest

    Oh boy, the $0N¥ paupers crying again. Believing all kinds of Make.belief because they can’t afford proper gaming.
    This developer clearly doesn’t develop on Xbox One because the API overhead is still there with DX11.2 on it. Poor paupers, such low IQ.

    • GodGamerDerp

      Apparently PS4’s stronger hardware, ~3.5 million sales lead, large
      number of 1st party developers, more games, and more developer support
      have microsoft fanboy shills extremely upset.

      Stay asshurt at PS4’s success. Keep shilling and spinning while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s
      good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and
      reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re
      constantly wrong.

  • Avery Smallcube

    but the ~secret sauce~

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