Frostbite Dev: The PS3 CELL Retarded The Industry Significantly, Devs Pitch In With Their Thoughts

A few game developers share their thoughts on PS3’s CELL processor.

Posted By | On 08th, Sep. 2015 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet

The PlayStation 3 had a ton of potential but due to its complicated architecture and complex CELL CPU processor, several developers were not willing to take on the daunting challenge. There was no doubt about what it was capable of but according to development standards, the CELL processor was a pain to code for. Regardless, Sony did well to bring the PS3 back from death and sold a respectable 80 million units.

Now a few developers have shared their thoughts on the good old processor with Stefan Boberg, Technical Director of Frostbite engine stating that the CELL retarded the industry significantly and it was all about complexity in all the wrong places. Leonard Ritter who is working on NOWHERE stated that he was a fan of the ideas that the CELL brought in but the marketing was left much to be desired. Whereas VR coder at Oculus Tom Forsyth believes that the marketing idea was stupid and it totally got what it deserved. Niklas Lundberg, Game-engine programmer working at Avalanche Studios poked fun at a rumor which stated that the PS4 will have 128 SPEs!

Regardless, what is done is done. The PS3 despite all the troubles managed to deliver some exciting new IPs such as The Last of Us and Uncharted.

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  • Fayxz

    DICE suck at optimisation & always have been, bf games have always had MANY bugs, especially when they launched bf4 for next gen, it’s still difficult for them to have a party up system in matchmaking! I think we know who the ‘retards’ really are.

    • robert castelonia

      very true

    • Kinect

      haha good point


      I will agree that the cell almost caused the ps3 downfall. Had sony went
      with a more accesible CPU they would have spent a waaay less money,
      they wouldnt have had the need for that high price at launch and they
      would have had better 3rd party support (in both quality and quantity).

    • Michael Norris

      Yea when i read that quote i had a chuckle for sure…

    • luis guilherme ferreira do car

      I love dice on pc 🙂

  • bardock5151

    Lol. Good article.

  • Zarbor

    Doesn’t matter. Sony knew they had their sheeps to keep them afloat. To be honest if it was not for the RROD the PS3 would have been a complete failure with it futurespoofing…LOL. MS saved their bacon by being a dope and dropping the ball.

    I get all the consoles but my PS3 sat for a long time without me buying a game for it. I got Resistence at launch and that was all for a long time. Didn’t buy into Movie Gear Solid and glad I didn’t since when I finally got it used, it was worth the 20 bucks I spent for it.

    Now its the same thing with the Vita….well worse since I don’t have one game I’ve bought for that system.

    • Josué B. Hernández

      Then Why did You buy a Vita without a single game you wanted to play on it?!

    • Don Karam

      Maybe he is using the Vita to remote play his PlayStation.

    • Zarbor

      You got it. Remote play with the hope that they would have great games. I at least got the remote play but it works well in the house not as well outside.

    • Daniel Lawson

      the killzone game on the Vita is good as is Teraway

    • Kinect

      It works just as well outside. Remote Play isn’t determined by LAN

    • Zarbor

      No it doesn’t.

    • XbotMK1

      Yes it does

    • Don Karam

      I think remote play is only really suitable for if you are grinding otherwise you are deprived of the full joy, because the screen resolution of the Vita is not so good, and since the signal is wireless, it is probably lossy compressed.

      By the way, how do you deal with the fact that the Vita is missing trigger buttons? Do you have an add-on apparatus that provides the trigger buttons?

    • Zarbor

      That’s correct. Wireless is no problem in my home. Once I get out of the home dependent on the signal, it’s a crap shot. When it works its cool but can be spotty. Not worth it. So I was hoping the system would have some great games by now…Nope. And Sony has just about abandoned the Vita this like how MS killed the Kinect.

      I have an add-on that gives me triggers and it doesn’t add much to the machine. Couldn’t use it the Vita without it.

    • kreator

      Malufacter espionage!

    • PachterStation

      Look at the PS4. Hands down, how it’s gone for the Xbox One and Wii U has been a massive gain for Sony. Sony can sell consoles with little quality games (the PSP being the best example). Sony are not bending over backwards with the PS4, as it keeps selling. After the PS2, Sony consoles gathered dust. My PS4 is mainly used for console updates and movie discs. That’s has good as it gets with the few games worth playing.

    • Considering I have a Wii U, PS4 and Gaming PC, my PS4 and Gaming PC get a ton of use. My Wii U is the one with hardly anything worth playing that isn’t a remake of an older title.

      Sony can sell consoles, they can also make great games which is why the system is selling well. Just because they don’t have many any blockbuster games, doesn’t mean the quality of games on the platform is bad.

      I guess in your mind, Indie titles aren’t worth the space they take up. If so, maybe you should try a new hobby, one that doesn’t require biased towards AAA companies.

    • Well as a big gamer on all platforms, I love my vita and ps3. Both have a ridiculous amount of unique and fun titles on the digital and physical stores.

      Sorry if you couldn’t find anything to your taste but then I’m guessing you probably don’t play much on xbox or wii unless its first party.

  • Kfal Balli

    People forget cell tech made it into xbox 360 cpu. Emotion engine and Cell ahh good times. Makes me wonder if the esram will ever reach its theoretical output.

    • PachterStation

      The tech debate will always dog gaming. But look at the Wii. It trampled the Xbox 360 and PS3. It was basically an upgraded GameCube.

    • awesome_farts

      The Wii was still 480p?! If it had upscaling functionality and an HDMI port THEN it can be considered an upgraded GameCube.

      As far as I’m concerned, the 1st Wii WAS a $250 GameCube.

    • bluedragon992

      Actually, the Wii DID have a slightly higher CPU clock speed, a slightly more powerful GPU and more RAM than the GameCube. So yeah, it most definitely was an “upgraded” GameCube despite still only being able to output in 480p.

    • Kfal Balli

      It’s really about marketing. Of course that is part of the price point too.

    • Trampled the competition in sales maybe but nothing else. Personally there are very few games that I remember fondly on the wii, most of it was shovel ware. PS3 had some ace exclusives that are still hitting the platform from Japan. The 360 had great multiplayer with a party system that blew the other two away.

      I’m happy they went with Cell Processing. It cost them a lot but we had some unique experiences that probably wouldn’t have been achievable without that extra power.

  • kreator

    It’s a shame all this comes out when last gen is pretty much over.

  • Mr.Towel


    The Cell Processor is many times more powerful than many processor of its range!

    It retarded the industries because developers are retarded enough to not use it in the right way, they want their APIs to do everything for them and don’t want to get the pedal to the metal anymore, that’s why they always get their panties wet when a new DX is announced, frigging lazy bastards (I’m assembly coder, so yeah, I do know what I’m talking about)

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Oh look, it’s offended by facts.

    • Mr.Towel

    • Cigi

      Well if you are a assembly coder – you are retarded and must be like the last

    • Mr.Towel

      Ok. Say that to the Army, smartass.

    • Michael Norris

      Eh I would had been much happier if Sony would had just used the same Cpu 360 used and with the extra money added a better gpu and ram.

    • Mr.Towel

      Then the PS3 would become obsolete even faster

  • Not a very Based developer if you ask me.

    The Power of the Cell was infinitely times more powerful than any super computer at the time.

    • AndrewLB

      That’s complete bull. The PS3 Cell does 21 gflops double precision while the i7-920 which was available at the time cranked out over 70 gflops double precision.

      As for the PS3’s GPU performance…

      “Back when Sony announced the specifications of the PlayStation 3, everyone asked if it meant the end of PC gaming. After all Cell looked very strong and NVIDIA’s RSX GPU had tremendous power. We asked NVIDIA how long it would take until we saw a GPU faster than the RSX. Their answer: by the time the PS3 ships. So congratulations to NVIDIA for making the PS3 obsolete before it ever shipped, as G80 is truly a beast.”

    • Psionicinversion

      its because the GPU PS3 was a straight up chip and wasnt custom or anything. They saw that 360 had better GPU so just swapped it out with an off the shelf one from nvidia

    • Everything is obsolete. The day a new processor is released, it’s obsolete. That’s the way the tech industry is working at the moment.

      Sony did incredibly well with what they had and in the end won the consoles wars in my opinion. 360 came second with great multiplayer features and wii came last for its workable motion controls but severe lack of any truly great titles.

      Having the latest greatest thing, is not as awesome as having cheap consoles produce great games.



  • PachterStation

    The PS3 nowhere near lived up to the hype. At the time, the Xbox 360 and the PC matched it. Even the Wii clocked up 100 million units, and that was a suped up GameCube. Buying a PS3 in 2008, I played a few exclusives, and not many stood out. Multi format games, I was more suited to the Xbox 360. But couldn’t fault the PS3 for movie discs, more so 3D Bluray. And the current model is a design disaster. UK pricing, a PS3 can sell for a whopping £200 ($300) tops. Discounted, you can pick up a PS4 for £250 ($385). I still say that the PS2 was Sony’s last top console.

  • XbotMK1

    Xbox 360 retarded the industry. Just look at these Xbox fanboys like Barcock5151 defending the Xbox One.

    But seriously, the cell didn’t retarded the industry. The industry would be the same even without the cell. The idea of the cell was that it could run everything with no need for a GPU which would remove bottlenecks. It wasn’t hard to make games for it either. The reason why these devs are crying is because it was hard to port games between PC, Xbox 360, and the cell. If the Xbox 360, PC, and PS3 all used the cell, you wouldn’t see these tweets.

    • Psionicinversion

      the cell was crap for gaming, much better used in servers as per the original design from IBM, it did still need a GPU otherwise it would extremely weak system


      Extremely weak system….. Look at the sorry GPU specs not to mention the lack of RAM these previous systems had.

      These choads are talking down on something that gave the developer the upper hand if they had just wanted to learn something new. Speaking of today they only have negative things to say right now of the current gen systems’ CPU’s……… I wonder why that is…..because they are crap!

      These people “especially” dice need to STFU and get on with still optimizing their crap from years ago! Then maybe these quips from the developers will actually be believable.

    • Psionicinversion

      if they did a cell 2 like sony wanted the system would cost a lot more than $400, whereas the future is going into compute based game engines which GPU’s are far better at handling than CPU’s or the cell

  • GamerJudge

    I think the devs could have tried a little harder but I know who came out retarded from last gen and his all over this article.

    • PachterStation

      And the thing is, this gen isn’t much of an upgrade over last gen. Makes you wonder about Xbox Two and PS5.

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