Metronomicon Dev On PS4 Pro vs Xbox One Scorpio Power Difference: ‘It Doesn’t Make An Extreme, Concrete Difference’

Also comments on whether mid-gen refreshes should be a thing going forward.

Posted By | On 13th, Apr. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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At this point we know that the Xbox One Scorpio is a complete overhaul of the original Xbox one hardware, a beast that has seen a refresh from the ground up. This is in stark contrast with Sony’s more conservative upgrade for the PS4 with the PS4 Pro- Sony opted for a more iterative upgrade, which also means that unlike the Scorpio, the Pro has to resort to trickery and shortcuts like checkerboard rendering to achieve the illusion of 4K.

Was it, then, a mistake on Sony’s part to have released the Pro so early? Should they, perhaps, have waited, and released hardware that was ultimately as accomplished as the Scorpio apparently is? Should they have opted for a full overhaul like Microsoft did? This is the question that GamingBolt decided to ask Danny Garfield, the head of Puuba, currently working on The Metronomicon.

“Personally, I don’t think it’ll make an extreme concrete difference,” Garfield said. “Most users care, in practice, generally. “Does it work? Does it look good? Can I play it?” The nuance of framerates and resolution, while discussed a ton among enthusiasts, I don’t think fazes a casual gamer, even a core gamer, who isn’t also a tech guy.”

We also asked him about his take on the mid-gen refresh and whether this will continue in the future. “I think this might be the state of things, going forward. We’re just having so many sea change generational improvements in computer technology. Even more than historically. 4K, VR, GPU leaps forward, new display and storage technologies,” he stated,

“I think, if console wants to stay relevant (and, it definitely has its place, what with ease of use, compatibility streamlining, and the like), it can never afford to fall too far behind PCs. And that might mean shorter generational cycles,” he further added.

What is your take on this matter? Let us know in the comments below. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is that Microsoft will now have the more powerful console on the market with the Scorpio- whether this turns the tides of the console war back in their favor is something that remains to be seen.


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  • Legionarius

    Were I in charge of Sony I would have waited until 2018 and just released the PS5. As powerful or perhaps slightly more powerful than Scorpio and backwards compatible with all PS4 games. I’d leave it up to the developer whether they’d make their games compatible with both PS4 and 5 or PS5-only. 2018 would be 5 years after the release of the PS4 and a reasonable amount of time between console releases.

    • Mark

      Yeah but u may hurt PS4 sales

    • Thomas Hannah

      From a business standpoint, Sony isn’t that dumb to come out with a PS5 when they just came out with the PS4 PRO back in November of last year. That would hurt their system sales, and no one is asking a PS5. I hope they wait after 2020 before they drop the PS5.

    • Legionarius

      Oops, forgot to mention, in my scenario I wouldn’t have released a PS4 Pro, would have kept the base PS4 until November 2018 and then released the PS5 that year.

    • Thomas Hannah

      Both the PS4 and PS4 Pro are very good systems. The PS4 Pro is even better. I upgraded to the Pro over my base PS4 and noticed right away how much smoother it was when playing BF1 online; even on a 1080p tv. BF1 is butter smooth on the Pro and fluid as well as the supersampling. It just looked better and played better overall. No regrets from me. As games get more demanding, was the purpose of these midgen counsoles, without having to do a full blown nextgen upgrade until they drop their actual nextgen system.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Me too. The Pro will definitely hold me over until 2020.

    • Eddie Battikha

      It’s coming Fall 2019.

    • Mark

      Look around u Thomas, there’s actually people lookin for PS5 next yr

    • Legionarius

      By 2018 PS4 would probably be at 70-80 million sold. I would call it a success and release the next one, if devs don’t want to abandon the PS4 install base they could make their game for PS4 and PS5 in my scenario.

    • Eddie Battikha

      U have to understand PS4 Pro was meant for PSVR it needed a decent outing as it’s first PSVR. Sony is switching to a 3 year hardware refresh cycle this way technology isn’t held back and evolution will continue. PS5 Fall 2019

    • Legionarius

      That’s fine if that’s what Sony thought would be best for their company. I’m just saying what I would have done.

    • Eddie Battikha

      I really believe if there wasnt a PS4 Pro, PS5 would of came out Fall 2018. PS4 Pro changed things, Fall 2019 is Playsations 25th Anniversary, PS5 is gonna is absolutely gonna kill it Fall 2019.

    • That’s actually a good argument, I haven’t heard that anywhere until now. If it’s really their 25th, 2019 might be a good date.

      I won’t buy one though until 3 years after unlike this gen when I bought year 1. The rate at which their 1st party studios develop software at 3-5 years now just isn’t worth it. If I had waited for the PS4 Slim, I could have picked up all the games I do own for $15 each – Bloodborne, Infamous SS, Killzone SF, TLOU Re, Uncharted Collection, Ratchet and Clank. They’ve dropped all their exclusives to that price after 3 years, it’s mind boggling…

    • Eddie Battikha

      December 3, 1994 PS1 launched in Japan. Fall 2019 is 6 years after PS4 launched. PS5 will be a Beastly 4k gaming console.

    • LifeOnMars

      The PS4 pro is A fine console, the std PS4 games run smooth as silk and is a great upgrade if you own a PSVR. Sony have nothing to fear from Scorpio and will outsell it 2:1 just as the PS4 outsold Xbox one until Sony drops the PS5 fall 2019 ,10 teroflops at $399 and 4k bluRay. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b42ed47a7744762425904e8399bef43ad30f99b0d539b75e1383ccdfe7628007.png
      .

    • theduckofdeath

      No, Sony wants to continue selling more PS4s and Pros, at an increasing profit, if possible. PS5 would cause them to change focus. PS5 exclusives would have a tiny potential customer window, passing up 55+ million potential buyers on PS4.

    • Eddie Battikha

      When do u see PS5 coming out ? Fall 2019 I think is perfect, 3 years after PS4 Pro. Sony is switching to a 3 year hardware refresh cycle, this way technology isn’t held back and evolution will continue. PS5 Fall 2019, PS5 Pro 2022.

    • Psionicinversion

      actually you dont know if sony is doing that. the pro was mainly for VR because VR on the ps4 isnt the best. but if MS is doing it sony will have to keep doing it

    • Eddie Battikha

      Fall 2019 is Playstations 25th Anniversary, Fall 2019 is 6 years after PS4 launch. 7nm and all the tech is there PS5 Fall 2019 it is.

    • theduckofdeath

      I would have anticipated Fall 2019, which I still think would have been a little early. Although, tech is progressing rapidly, and PC game development would have been retarded worse than ever by consoles. The industry is in a unique place now with Pro and Scorpio around the corner. Those machines could elongate the cycle or simply smooth out the transition to next gen. Another advantage is that Sony & MS could cut off dev of more PS4/XB1 (last gen) versions of new games than usual and instead support Pro/Scorpio as “last gen”. A lot rides on the scope of next gen games (and dev cost).

    • Eddie Battikha

      Don’t forget Fall 2019 is Playstations 25th Anniversary, 7nm and the right tech will be there for PS5. PS5 Fall 2019 is 6 years after PS4 launch which is perfect. PS5 is gonna be a Monster 4k gaming console.

  • Holeybartender

    They need to focus on extending the storage for gaming discs to alleviate harddrive space from 50 gig Bluray to UHD Bluray or better yet those 7-10 terabyte storage discs

  • Graeme Willy

    It’s all relative. The Scorpio pushes 6TF and 12GB of RAM for native 4k, with little umph after that for actual graphics. But as we all know in the PC world, right now, 6TF is barely the 4K entry level point, but not enough to push it at heightened graphics fidelity…especially, as software requirements skyrocket as they do.
    Don’t be surprised if, by next year, the 4K entry point is 8TF-9TF, after titles are requiring more.

    The Pro, does not run 4K, native, and this doesn’t need 12GB of RAM and raw compute power. It will be at the same graphics fidelity as the Scorpio will be at 4K levels, but at sub-4K(1440P-1800P).

    It’s the same as with Xbox One and PS4. The Xbox One can rival PS4 graphics fidelity between 720P and 900P(depending on title), as the PS4 cab between 900P and 1080P

    • Jose Arcadio Morales

      L O L

    • Idiot…

    • zybch

      You do realize that its not just the raw power, but the amazing things MS has done regarding moving a lot of direct X into the actual silicon. Rather than having to make a thousand or so draw calls via slow software, the same tasks can be accomplished by 10-12 calls directly to the chip. Thats a HUGE advantage in being able to get to 4K without needing to go batshit crazy on the power of the GPU alone.

  • kee1haul

    Doesn’t surprise me who wrote this.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Get some help, good luck in life.

    • kee1haul

      Eddie.

    • Smart guy

      Lol

  • Riggybro

    It doesn’t really matter.

    The consumer narrative has changed now from resolution/teraflops to games.

    It’s like 2001 again.
    The Microsoft console is the serious powerful expensive one and the PS is the cheaper fun popular one with the diversity of games for everyone.

    • Eddie Battikha

      It’s almost exactly like 2001 again, Xbox had good exclusives back then because it was their first console and they paid of developers and they still struggled.

    • Cenk Algu

      This the consolation of you PS fans.No it is not 2001 again.Lets see what happens when the games look and run better on Scorpio then you will see the painful facts with your own eyes.

      The PS4 was so succesful because it was a default console for the multi plats.

    • crazy_black_man-

      What games? Dude, the Scorpio won’t release until November. It won’t even make much of a difference by that time. They still have to put a price on it and announce what the trade in values will be on old Xbox One hardware.

    • Cenk Algu

      What games? No need to count,all of them will look and run better on Scorpio.If it gets price tag 300-400$ then the Sony will sweat hard.

    • Eddie Battikha

      $300 – $400 LMFAO it’s sure nice to dream. $500, $450 if ur really lucky.

    • Cenk Algu

      no,I heard that it it 800$ Come to the real life.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Another failure for Xbox, Remedy has only been making games for Xbox since 2005 and hasn’t made a game for Playstaion since 2003. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/04/the-xbox-one-loses-another-exclusive-third-party-developer/

    • Cenk Algu

      I know this damage control article.The author burying the Scorpio based on his assumptions lol!!!

    • Eddie Battikha

      Ur still crying about Spiderman being PS4 Exclusive LOL. Scorpio $ 300 – $400 LMFAO. Ur a long winded one, have a good weekend.

    • Cenk Algu

      I never cried about Spiderman lol.Where did this come from? No like you said it will be 1.000$

    • Gamez Rule

      No MS home console has outsold a Sony home console to date. Why can’t people just see that.

      All MS consoles in the past have been more powerful when compared to Sony’s consoles and still Sony had the most worldwide sales. So really power isn’t everything as otherwise Wii wouldn’t have outsold PS3 and 360 last gen.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59d52b8f3ed0442795a6b9299093e7e7e844f47fe0b6b3701f4b42b9d49cd23b.jpg

    • Eddie Battikha

      Yup, the trend will continue and never change.

    • Dani

      MS hasn’t outsold Sony yet, though MS have undeniably had better systems. Fanboyism within Sony’s crowd is strong.

    • Gamez Rule

      “MS hasn’t outsold Sony yet” = Agreed like pointed out.

      “though MS have undeniably had better systems” = And still didn’t help outsell Sony consoles.

      “Fanboyism within Sony’s crowd is strong” = For stating truths,,, yeah right. :PS: I own Xbone and yes I’m still waiting for these so called great exclusive games with a tonne of developer support that was promised to us by Penello☺

      But not to worry we still can wait till E3..☺

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/917912611c8fc04a3cafc377e25526a2ab077b4da4d251faac06a5b7f2d29f2c.gif

  • crazy_black_man-

    Hey, at least the Scorpio comes bundled with a free magnifying glass…to help you find some exclusive games.
    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41aRDLu%2BxXL.jpg

    • Eddie Battikha

      LMFAO

    • kee1haul
    • crazy_black_man-

      Microsoft Q4 2016, Q1 2017, Q4 2017 are an embarrassment. Why would you even post this pathetic nonsense? These aren’t the type of games that sell consoles bruh. These Xbox One games are like those weak songs on an album that they would never play on the radio. They’re not the hits. I can’t wait to see how badly those Microsoft Q4 2017 games get reviewed. Hilariousness!!!

      http://www.cheatcc.com/imagesfeatures/top10disappointinggamesofthisgeneration.jpg

    • kee1haul

      Please see No Man’s Sky for the meaning of disappointment.

    • Mr Xrat

      That award goes to the Shitpio’s Jaguar CPU, Mark.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL

    • Fweds

      Calling an electronic device a silly name will not offend the electronic device, you do know that right ?

      _________
      You Probably shouldn’t use that old Upvote Bot of yours any longer, those same old ghost names are a bit stale now.

    • crazy_black_man-

      “Calling an electronic device a silly name will not offend the electronic device, you do know that right ?”

      LOL. But its actually a great name and it clearly offends you losers. First it was Xbone and now its Shitpio. Hilariousness!!!

    • Fweds

      Nopowerstation 4
      Hilariousness. Think this is best, I bet it really offends you losers.

      PS Poo ,. Hilariousness.

      Notice how I cleverly changed the r to an o, I bet you are now angry that I called an electronic device a stupid name right ?.
      As if it offends anyone, pathetic.

      PS POOR. Hilariousness
      Notice how I cleverly changed the four to poor just to offend you !!!

      Xbone was fine it’s just XB ONE which is exactly what it is.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Hilariousness is MY word. How dare you use MY catchphrase.

      In other news, I just upgraded to Windows 10. Xbox Live gamertag is mrblack805, since crazyblackman was already taken. How dare they take my username?! Downloading Forza now. Cant believe I just said that. Hilariousness.

    • kee1haul

      That cpu puts the PS4 pro to shame.

    • Mr Xrat

      They’re both Jaguars, Mark. Poor little lad. Back to Twitter!

    • Eddie Battikha

      It’s a customized Jaguar LOL Scorpio is strong but I’ll stick with PS4 Pro and wait for a real next gen system which is PS5 Fall 2019.

    • kee1haul

      says who?

    • Eddie Battikha
    • kee1haul

      There is nothing on there that says when PS5 is coming.

    • Eddie Battikha
    • crazy_black_man-

      Why? I didnt want it, so I didnt buy it, as its not my type of game so I don’t list it or discuss it.

    • kee1haul

      How about the Odour 1886?

    • Fweds

      Exclusives don’t sell console’s any more they haven’t really done so since the earlier games such as Gears of war and the original Uncharted etc.

      They do help but only if the console is better overall and that is certainly not the case for the Playstation anymore, multi format titles with the better resolutions and framerates are king and the more powerful console are what have been selling the most consoles.

      That title is now with Scorpio, multi format titles will run better on Scorpio than the Playstation version every time.

      Digital Foundry side by side comparisons of multi format titles may as well just be Playstation vs switch as it will be a no contest if Scorpio was also tested against the far weaker machines.

      Digital Foundry will likely do side by side comparisons of multi format titles with Scorpio vs PC as that will be the only fair thing being as they are both so much more powerful than Playstation and Nintendo’s offerings.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Exclusives matter far more than multiplatform games. End of story. Nobody is going to go out and buy a brand new computer this November just to play the same old games they’ve already been playing. Have you really thought this through?

      So you Xbox people think that people that are already playing a multiplat on the PS4, or even the PS4 Pro, are sufddenly going to run out and buy the new Scorpio just to play the same damn game they’ve already been playing? That is the stupidest freaking reasoning I ever heard.

      WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

      HOW DESPERATE ARE YOU TO HAVE YOUR XBOX BE BETTER THAN THE PS4?

      JUST. STOP. THE. MADNESS.

    • Fweds

      Wahhh, ah, Wahhh my console is not as good as Scorpio either in power or features, it’s just not fair…

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. I’m at a loss.

    • Smart guy

      You are 100% correct!!

    • Dani

      MS has better games. The Pro is an anti-consumer rush job.

    • They’ll have Uncharted: Lost Legacy and likely God of War also.

    • kee1haul

      No release date for God of War. And DLC doesn’t count.

    • I did say likely GoW – it has been playable from start to finish since the beginning of the year, that means it’s pure bug squashing and refinement now.

      As for Lost Legacy, I can agree on that. But it is 10+ hours long, that’s a little under Hearts of Stone for Witcher 3…

    • Psionicinversion

      being playable start to finish doesnt mean its completed. it just means the game is in a state to do that. there could well be alot more work to it

    • Reread my comment – **likely** for end of year, geezuz christ…

    • Psionicinversion

      You said all there is left to do is bug fix and that. They could still have alot of animation work todo or other tasks. Technically speaking you could have the whole game in grey box and be playable start to finish

    • Eddie Battikha

      U have no idea what’s coming at E3.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Let him think that, ull hear all the announcements at E3 with launch dates.

    • I doubt that, my big gripe with Sony this gen has been their lackluster release schedule. Just b/c they finally released 4 good games this Spring is not indicative the same will happen in Fall.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Ur gonna be very shocked this E3, I already know what PS4 Exclusives from Sony’s 1st Party Developers are realising this Q3 and Q4, ur gonna be very surprised this E3.

    • Oh please, lol.

    • Mr Xrat

      All those Q4 games doesn’t even have a release quarter, Mark. Forza 7 doesn’t even officially exist.

      Always makes me laugh when Xgimps try and prop up their awful lineup with garbage.

    • Fweds

      Do you think a few niche titles and a couple of games that were delayed for years on the Playstation makes things better in some way ?

    • Mr Xrat

      Funny, it’s seemed to keep you off the ledge for the last four years.

      It’s a shame you never did the decent thing and jumped off.

    • Fweds

      Don’t forget to turn off your Upvote Bot.

    • Smart guy

      Don’t give the kid attention. Both his dad’s will be sleeping in his bed with him tonight 🙂

    • Dani

      Forza 7 is a given – 4k 60 fps -v- fake 4k at 20fps GT with cars that sound like vacuum cleaners.

      Also exclusives do not sell consoles – multiplats do. The other week, Forza 5 received higher weekly sales figures for Nier lol. Oh them exclusives.

      You come here a lot to damage control what Sony fail at doing. Now run along and play No Man’s Refund.

    • Mr Xrat

      GT has always been 60fps. GT6 looked better than Forza 5 as well, which is not surprising considering how half-*ssed and milked the series has been.

      Yeah, for one week. In the UK. At 30th place. When Nier was still full-price. While Forza 5 was thrown in for free with Xbox bundles to shift stock no one wanted. Shame.

    • Fweds

      Don’t forget the GT bugs, one of the most bugged series of games ever,. you will be beta testing this for the next five years despite paying full price for it.

    • Thomas Hannah

      They already confirmed GT to be running 60fps.

    • Dougdec92

      Damn that will leave a mark

    • heavenshitman1

      They’re releasing a premium model with an electron-microscope

    • Fweds

      Do you think a few niche titles and two games that were delayed for years (both of which suffer from framerate issues on the normal ps4) somehow gives the now inferior console some sort of edge ?

    • crazy_black_man-

      No, not exactly. I think the approx 55 plus million PS4s sold over the approx 26 million Xbox Ones gives it an edge, but that’s just my own twisted logic.

      The actual answer to your question may appear to be a tad bit different when you view the situation from inside your bubble.

      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f7zEKP_uqsM/TWrCbIMkU3I/AAAAAAAAAvI/6Oc8Gnu7Pwk/s1600/bulle.jpeg

  • Eddie Battikha

    PS2 vs Xbox all over again, we know how that ended up for Microsoft. Scorpio is a very powerful mid gen update that has a small list of exclusives. Back in 2001 Xbox had good games because it was Microsofts first Console and they paid Developers a lot of money for exclusives and it still sold bad compared to PS2. PS4 has so many exclusives coming out in the next year, Sony has nothing to worrry about at all, PS5 Fall 2019 I can’t wait.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Yep. That’s the thing they don’t seem to get. Sony has sooo many damn great exclusive games coming out that the PS5 aint even a wet dream yet.

    • Jose Arcadio Morales

      and you still play your call of duty on that great ps4 prio machine lol

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    • Fweds

      You do know that MS will already be working on Xbox 4 right ? You do know it costs BILLIONS to design a whole new console right ? You do know that Sony are now in a very awkward place, they have no idea how far MS are into the Xbox 4 and if Sony were to announce and MS announced the better console soon after it could be curtains for Sony.

      If someone wants Forza Horizon 4 in 4k at 60fps which console will they buy ?
      If someone wants an Ultra HD Blu-ray player as well as the worlds most powerful games console in one which console will they buy ?
      If someone wants the best Resolution and framerates on Multi format titles which console will they buy ?

      Are you forgetting the more powerful hardware and MULTI FORMAT titles that run better resolutions and framerates sell console’s, not a few Exclusives.

      Scorpio Free Backward compatibility with the Xbox 360 AND Xbox One that runs the Xbox One games far better than on the original Xbox One.
      Pro doesn’t come out well with ps3 (rentals even if you already bought the game) or ps4 compatibility in fact it’s terrible.

      Let’s see how E3 goes for more exclusive announcements it’s only about 7 weeks away

      MS look to have some very interesting VR and MR headset’s for E3 hopefully they will show Fallout VR.

    • Eddie Battikha

      U do know that Fall 2019 is Playstations 25th Anniversary and PS5 is launching that fall, Microsoft has been in a rough position compared to Sony ever since they entered the Console Market. No matter what u say it doesn’t matter, Sony always has the Exclusives and gamers on their side. Even when PS3 came out a year after Xbox 360 and had a horrible start they still came back and outsold them at the end of 2013. Overall no one cares for Xbox outside America and Xbox will never have half the number of Exclusives compared to Playstation. Another failure for Microsoft as Remedy has only been making games for Xbox since 2005 and hasn’t made a game for Playstation since 2003. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/04/the-xbox-one-loses-another-exclusive-third-party-developer/

    • Dani

      The release date of the PS5 is off the tablet for now. Expect 2020 at least. As far as the games go, Sony has more games, though MS have better, more replayable ones.
      Props to MS for releasing a mid-gen upgrade that isn’t an anti-consumer rush job that which like a triple cheeseburger.
      Scorpio will be day one – PS-whatever can wait a few years.

    • Fweds

      I can tell you one thing without even bothering talking power.

      If MS can actually show Crackdown 3 running the ‘actual’ game genuinely running from the cloud at E3 this will be a bigger game changer than even a Xbox 4 or ps5.
      This would give them a huge advantage.

      Notice your fake Upvotes with the ghost names by “MrXrat” AKA “RhubarbForFingers”, “Revolver ocelot” etc.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Fake upvotes with ghost names???????? Man u are a long winded one.

    • Fweds

      You don’t know what fake ghost name Upvotes are ?
      He uses an Upvote Bot.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Of course I do Sherlock, but y would u say that to me? ur a really strange kid that thinks it costs billions to make a new console, enjoy ur weekend little kid.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      I can’t believe it’s been so long.
      I’m still hyped for ps9!
      PS9 gonna wreck that Xbox infinity s!!!!

    • Eddie Battikha

      Billions to make a new Console, LOL u just lost what ever credibility that u had.

    • Fweds

      You are talking about a new console designed from the ground up.

      How much do you think it cost Sony for the PS3. ?

    • Eddie Battikha

      Millions obviously, for u to really think it’s billions makes me think ur either 10 or 12 years old.

    • Fweds

      PlayStation 3 cost Sony $3.32 billion it may not recoup.

      https://www.geek.com/games/playstation-3-cost-sony-332-billion-it-may-not-recoup-576005/

      Now how much do you think it cost to develop the PS4 from the ground up ?

    • Eddie Battikha

      Point taken on PS3, back then Consoles were designed to be stronger than PC’s during the first 2 years of launch. The Economy crashed in 2008, I dunno the cost of development for PS4 ,but nothing compared to the PS3 ,those days are long John gone.
      It cost them $381 for each console so they could make a little profit on it.

    • YOUR NAME

      lol no ones buying ps4s for exclusives

    • Gamez Rule

      No ones buying Xbone for exclusives that’s for sure☺☺☺

    • YOUR NAME

      Irrelevant. We were talking about PlayStation. Xbox was the only console with a constant stream of exclusives for the first 3 years. Fact

      PlayStation 4’s were bought due to higher resolutions and better multiplats. Fact

    • Gamez Rule

      In your opinion that’s why things happen.

      But what we know as truth is this. No home console released by MS has outsold a home console released by Sony even when knowing that MS consoles in the past held the more powerful hardware.

    • YOUR NAME

      There was a survey and the number 1 reason people bought ps4s was because of resolution

      Ps3 sold 80 million Xbox 360 sold 84 million those were the last official announcements from both ms and Sony.

      Xbox 360 also had much better attach rate and software sales Xbox dominated last gen. Fact

    • Gamez Rule

      lol, even VGChartz shows PS3 sold more than 360 and they are always behind in sales figures. * Please show your official announcements* as everyone knows that both companies hit 80 within a month of each other and PS3 was released 12 months after 360, so PS3 was outselling 360 within the same time-span.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59d52b8f3ed0442795a6b9299093e7e7e844f47fe0b6b3701f4b42b9d49cd23b.jpg

    • YOUR NAME

      Lol as soon as you use vgchartz you lose.

    • Gamez Rule

      *Please show your official announcements* Because until you do what I posted is more official than your post ☺☺☺

      There are places like this ( see link ) that state PS3 has outsold 360, so please show your *official sales links* as otherwise PS3 has outsold 360☺

      As of March 2016 the PS3 has shipped 85 m units worldwide, with the Xbox 360 having moved 84 million units as of August 2016.

      http://www.psu.com/news/31260/PS3-price-wasnt-consumer-friendly-at-launch-admits-former-Sony-exec

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      That’s a 2016 article look for one from 2013 that says the ps3 has outsold the 360.
      Not going to find it buddy.

    • Gamez Rule
    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Maybe it did lose its lead,but then again this article isn’t evidence as nothing in it was fact. It days in the article itself that those are just their personal estimates. They never once said anything was official.

    • Eddie Battikha

      It sure sucks when u get proved wrong, deal with it little boy.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      He’s basing the ps3 win off numbers pulled from vg charts. Vg charts show its estimates buy aren’t 100 percent. I clearly remember the ps3 outselling the Xbox 360 In 2014. I will admit that I remember when it was announced that the ps3 has shipped more consoles than the 360 but those aren’t sales. He’s not going to be able to prove that the ps3 outsold the 360 before Nov of 2013 because it didn’t happen.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Plain and simple Sony shipped more PS3s and sold more than Xbox 360 overall and that’s what matters.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      That is true but Sony lost the console sale war before it was officially over. Vin diesel once said….”it doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning.” This guy is saying that they outsold them before the new Gen started. It just didn’t happen.
      In the end we all won because of the competition. We got the ps4 out of it. Because of it they decided to beef it up last minute. And because of the ps4 dominating the Gen we are getting the scorpio.

    • Eddie Battikha

      I agree with that, going forward no matter what system you support Console gaming is looking good.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      It sucks that a great world war will probably be what kills Sony and microsoft. If we go through another great depression no one will be thinking about videogames.

    • Fweds

      You really are wasting your time, Sony were almost giving away those horrible last ps3s which had the DVD manual eject door etc added just to boost numbers.

      They lost in terms of genuine sales but either way it just shows that MS made a huge achievement by taking on a massive brand name in consoles

    • theduckofdeath

      For this even be in question is embarrassing to Sony. The have international brand loyalty, Japan/Asia locked down, and hype built up from two console generations. Not to mention, their own special brand of hyperbole.

      I fell for with it the PS2; Dreamcast was released and waited to buy Sony’s system, which turned out to be disappointing. Not until the Dream cast was defunct did I purchase a system. So you see a 12-month lead means little without the hype capitalize on it.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      The 360 outsold the ps3. I’m not sure where you are getting your facts but can you please show me where the ps3 outsold the 360 before November of 2013. And no shipped consoles don’t count.lol

      I know it’s not worldwide sales but the ps3 got demolished in the United states. Absolutely crushed by the 360. I do remember that in 2014 the ps3 officially outsold the 360 but come on man. The next Gen was already underway.

  • Thomas Hannah

    I’ll say Sony will drop their next system around 2020 at the earliest; and no earlier.

    • crazy_black_man-

      I agree.

  • Mavericks

    Sure, one PS4 of power difference isn’t a concrete difference.

  • Mr Xrat

    Another dev telling us what we already know while Xgimps lash out, again.

    • Cenk Algu

      For the first time in my life,witnessing a crying Rat lol!!!!

    • Dani

      Another dev damage controlling and another immature Sony fanboy subbing words into ‘Xbox’ like most of us did when we were children.
      Scorpio will smoke this. Deal with it.

  • Cenk Algu

    Let the damage control begins.Sony using some devs to control the Scorpio Hype but once the games get released,Sony can’t do much.

    • Edonus

      Begin ?!?!?!?!

      These bias gaming media sites have been running constant attack articles since Digital Foundry revealed the specs.

      They have been doing this for 3 years now…… hopefully there is enough real gamer saturation to combat all the sony shills in the comment sections. Hopefully there will be enough real gamers in the world to let other know the Xbox Scorpio is the best gaming and entertainment product you can own.

      If you have a 4k tv a Xbox One S or Scorpio especially is a must own. If you have a 4K tv and have a Ps4 and either no Xbox One S or a Scorpio you are a loser a$$ weirdo that has failed at life and doesnt deserve respect because your d$ck is small.

    • Smart guy

      What and idiot!!! Comparing d1cks for consoles!!! Haaaaaaave damn you’ve never gotten laid except by a man lol

    • Edonus

      All you pulled out of that comment was something about dicks…..
      ****your 2 inches have been confirmed****

    • Smart guy

      Lol wow buddy. Please don’t have kids. There’s already plenty of stupidity out there

  • TwoLiterSoda

    Ok this needs to stop, here is another unknown dev who is working on a game nobody has ever heard of, making huge claims about something they obviouslY know nothing about. Sony is doing good and will continue to do so no matter what MS does.

  • Hunter

    Horizon Zero Dawn will crush everything on xbox!

    Uncharted 4, God of war 4, The Last of Us 2 = RIP scorpio

    Show me the games, not tiny specs

    • Tyrelle Watts

      Haven’t you heard the last if us 2 us supposed to be coming to Xbox

    • Eddie Battikha

      Keep on dreaming and believing anything on the web.

  • Mr Xrat

    Xgimps at maximum damage control.

    “E-exclusives d-don’t matter!!!” (Years after trying to tell everyone how great their worthless line up us.

    “I-it’s a m-monster!!!!” (No Zen, no Vega, overclocking and marketing phrases)

    Now no reveal event after ten months of begging. It’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for them.

    Almost.

  • zybch

    Hahaha, damage controlling for sony. So sad.

  • kreator

    The salt is strong here!


 

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