PS4 Pro’s Increased RAM Is Enough To Meet Higher Requirements of 4K – Crytek’s Technical Director

“There’s a list of interesting enhancements that Pro brings to the table.”

Posted By | On 12th, Nov. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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The PS4 Pro is a far more powerful console than the base PS4, which is something that often tends to get lost in the messaging kerfuffle Sony are having, trying to push it as a 4K gaming console. Among other things, it’s seen increased clock speeds, increased memory bandwidth, and even more RAM.

That extra 1GB of RAM should compensate for the higher demands that pushing 4K place on the system, according to Rok Erjavec, Technical Director at Crytek. In an exclusive interview with GamingBolt, he discussed the benefits of the additional RAM.

“The system gives us back an additional 0.5GB over thePS4, which is enough to fill in the increased requirements from things like 4K, higher quality rendering features, etc,” he said. “Coming out at about a 10% increase, it can be seen as somewhat substantial relative to the base console, but mainly it’s there to transparently allow for PS4 Pro-specific improvements without developers having to jump through complicated hoops.”

He also discussed some of the other improvements and enhancements that the PS4 Pro brings to the table- many of which, he admits, he has never had the chance to work with before.

“There’s a list of interesting enhancements that Pro brings to the table that we haven’t had the opportunity to work with so closely in hardware before,” he said. “Some things (like color compression) are transparent efficiency improvements, so really more of a balancing tool to allow high utilization of the increased compute resources despite the relatively smaller bandwidth increase. Others – like the ID buffer or hardware-multi res – actually pave the way for new rendering pipeline workflows, and as such still need to be experimented with to determine all the possibilities.”

Hopefully, that additional power and resources can be put to some good use by the developers. The PS4 Pro is available now worldwide for $399.

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  • Henrikoijvallkarlsso

    I do not like this site, I admit it. But when taken from the horse’s mouth, more of this.
    Not these flame-bait-bullshit-articles. No thx. We see right through them..

  • Hvd

    right…ram doesnt =4k…lol.tflops = 4k…lol…nice try you can fool idiots but thats about it..

    • Gamez Rule

      “PS4 Pro is a far more powerful console than the base PS4” = IF people wanted a Sony Console then PS4-Pro is the worlds most powerful console on the market to date to choose from, If you don’t want the most powerful console on the market then choose the PS4 the worlds second most powerful console on the market, and if you don’t want something as big as those consoles then PS4-Slim is also an option. ( VR games play on PS4’s )

      If you’re looking for a cheap UHD-Blu-Ray player then Xbone S is the choice as well as allowing gaming to take place, but issues with the UHD drive within the Xbone S may put people off. MS are aware of this problem but as of yet no fix has been announced by them.

    • kma99

      Oh boy here u go again. Last week u were doing the same thing all while bragging about owning all consoles. Now you’re here fan boying it up again all while downplaying something as useful as a blu ray playerr in your console. I thought you Sony drones loved options at the beginning of this generation. Now sony takes stuff away and you’re backing up the bull. We get it dude u like sony. Enough with the idiotic post

    • Guest

      “Something as useful a UHD bluray”? Where was this belief from you bots last gen when the PS3 had a Bluray disc player while the 360 didn’t? Oh that’s right, you a$$ f’cks chastised it and now when the MS console has a UHD player while the Sony one doesn’t it suddenly matters. Even though Sony is right, streaming is the here and now and the future. Not some already almost obsolete out of the door format. Less people care about UHD now then they did about Blurays back in 2006. So get with the times fanboy and stop fanboying up,…bot!

    • kma99

      Dont hide behind that guest account coward. You dont what i was doing last gen. Why would i put down something i owned. Oh thats right you don’t know that do you. You were the same tards bragging about free online all while sony honeydicked you with online passes to play multi player. Then you bragged about playing exclusives all last gen while this gen claiming that its all about multi plats. Need i keep going or will you sit behind that guest account again.

    • Gamez Rule

      Hold one! For starters that guest is NOT me, I don’t hide behind other accounts, and two I do own both Xbone and PS4-Pro consoles unlike you and what I stated about the Xbone S UHD-Blu-Ray drive is correct. It does have issues that MS are well aware of and still no fix has been issued by them.

      Truth is both consoles have pro’s n cons like PS4-Pro STILL cannot even to play a CD, or store MP3’s on it’s internal HDD, or the fact that the menu is backwards when compared to PS3’s menu, so IF you believe I only ” fan boying it up” then you are clearly yet again only seeing what you want to see.

      So the statement made about “PS4 Pro is a far more powerful console than the base PS4” is 100% correct, and the statement made about “If you’re looking for a cheap UHD-Blu-Ray player then Xbone S is the choice” is also correct when compared to non-gaming-UHD-Blu-Ray players, but truth is the Xbone S drive has issues and that has stopped people I know ( including myself ) from buying it.

    • kma99

      Hold up didnt i even say that guest was you? Did i even mention anyone’s name at all? If you’re going to list pro and con list them all for both consoles. Dont sit here and dog one out and get on your knees amd slurp the other one like u were doing. Every console has issues do you see me trying to list them. By now people should be well aware. The pro is having issues, do you see me running to the forums to laugh about it?

    • Gamez Rule

      “Dont hide behind that guest account coward” I thought YOU believed that that guest was me hence why I posted what I did, but as you didn’t think it was me then I apologize.

      PS: I haven’t dogged any console on here only stated the truth about the consoles. Stating the truth about Xbone S UHD drive problems is not dogging anything only stating the truth, and I also stated in my post above how PS4-Pro still can’t play CD’s/ install MP3’s onto internal HDD, etc, so I have stated both consoles NOT just one console.

      And what Pro issues are you posting about?

    • kma99

      Again did i even say it was you under thr guest account? I know who it was and you assuming it was yourself that i was talking about is funny. Why so nervous? Its always the same person who wants to talk crap whenever he doesn’t want to get berated. If i assumed it was you I would have called you out.

      P.S. google p s pro and you will see what issues they are having. Some might be isolated but most are having issues with a black screen.

    • Gamez Rule
    • kma99

      Why are u linking something i told u about?

    • Gamez Rule

      To see IF that was what you was on about? Where you supplied no link I wasn’t sure if it was, so placed link here lol.

      Anyway here is a fix until Sony patch it.

      “Go to setting on PS and go system to disable hdcp. After that turn off the ps, go safe mode and the down to hdcp setting and changed back to automatic! now start your ps normal way and go to system and enable the hdcp. Finally check video output information it should be fixed by then. Hdcp 2.2”

    • kma99

      I dont need a fix i haven’t madr upy mind if u was going to upgrade or keep my standard ps4. Might just wait for them to troubleshoot the bugs and fix the issues with the games having frame rate issues.

    • Gamez Rule

      Games with frame-rate issues should be patched by the game makers as it’s not PS4-Pro at fault as other games have been shown to be running better than stock PS4’s while boosting resolution etc. The HDCP issues needs fixing A.S.A.P as does the Xbones UHD drive issues.

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-bf1-and-fifa-17-frostbite-shines-on-ps4-pro

    • kma99

      Never said it was a Sony issue, its just an issue. I dont care about resolution but i do care about frame rates. Drops in frames will cause me to have headaches and its annoying. Fixing the uhd drive should be a priority

    • Gamez Rule

      If you have a 4k TV then the PS4-Pro is worth buying IMO as more games will take advantage of the console. If you want VR then the PS4-Pro is also getting an advantage over stock PS4’s, plus most of the time the Pro is more cost effective when compared to stock PS4’s.

      If no 4K TV or no to VR then stay with stock PS4 IMO

    • kma99

      If they pro keeps getting hampered by the stock ps4 then it truly doesnt matter. They have to cater to the one with thr most users. They will under use thr power simply because developers have to code for 2 different machines amd you know developers are lazy to begin with.

    • Gamez Rule

      I know it’s not worldwide but “PS4 Sales Up By 204% In UK After PS4 Pro Launch” and that shows PS4-Pro is far from getting hampered by stock PS4’s ( as far as sales go anyway )

      As for the few games on PS4 Pro that run about 1-5 FPS worse than stock PS4 while out-putting a better resolution etc, a patch should be sorted by the game devs as it’s not the PS4 at fault, and most games not only look better on PS4-Pro but also run better too when compared to stock PS4.

    • kma99

      How can it be up that much when ps4 pro just launched. How can they add a percentage to a console that hasnt even been out a week yet? You do know they count preorders right. So ps4 pro sale will be lumped in with ps4 sale to give that false illusion of higher sale of thr base model. They should separate thr two to really show what the overall numbers are just like the Scorpio should.

    • Gamez Rule

      It states…

      “Following the launch of the PS4 Pro last week, sales of the PS4 were apparently up by 204% week on week./ 65% of all PS4 consoles sold over this period were PS4 Pro consoles”

      Then this..

      “Sales of the standard PS4 models, both the launch model and the Slim, rose 8.5% week on week, as well. The end result was that the PS4 claimed 53% of the total market, with its total sales coming in at 44% higher than total Xbox One sales”

      The week ending Saturday, November 12th ( PS4-Pro was only released for two days )

    • kma99

      I appreciate your concern but i keep up with all news. I still dont like the skewed numbers. You would expect sales to go up on launch week just like you would for video games. I personally dont feel that pro numbers should be lumped with standard ps4 numbers. On thr flip side i dont want Scorpio numbers with the standard one s numbers. Mark my words once the Scorpio launches ps fanboys will be complaining about Microsoft doing the same thing with there console numbers.

    • lagann

      ram is very important in order to reach higher resolutions….but so is tflops.

      You cannot have one or the other….you need both.

      That said, that 1gb of ram extra over the base PS4 isn’t going to make a drastic difference lol. Let’s not forget this is unified ram and not JUST ram for GPU. If the base PS4 was able to output native resolutions that are close to 4k, then I would understand that that one extra gig of ram would let them reach 4k….but the base PS4 is not even close.

      That said, I could be proven wrong as Crytek are wizards. Ryse, a launch title, still is one of the nicest looking games this generation….though looking nice and resolution are two different things.

    • Guest

      Oh look who’s here! Its obsessed.

    • realmadpuppy

      Hey, your that troll that was spreading fud about the Playstation4 Pro all over the place that it overheats. It’s so nice to see that most everyone has your number already and aren’t fooled by your lies. 🙂

      good news indeed….

    • LordCancer Kain

      yo…is that you bro? hit me up on playstation dog!

    • realmadpuppy

      Hey!! You’ve been m. i.a. for a while, nice seeing that your still kicking!
      I’m working today, but when I get home, I’ll fire up the ps4 and look you up, I’m assuming your still Lord cancer…

    • LordCancer Kain

      you too man! it’s LordCancer

    • realmadpuppy

      10-4 when I get home tonight, around 7:00 est. What do we have? a three or four hour difference later than you, right?

    • LordCancer Kain

      two.

    • Aenea

      MS certainly fooled you!

  • Luke Skywalker

    I guess this leaves us to see what the cry engine can do on the ps4 pro, right?

    • Gamez Rule

      Hopefully all good too.

    • Psionicinversion

      cryengine isnt doing anything on ps4 pro and thats a a fact

    • Guest

      You mad?

    • Gamez Rule

      cryengine???

      Did you mean Crytek? What makes you believe your statement anyway?

    • Psionicinversion

      nope all the good people joined CIG to make star citizen. steep and robinson are good tech demos but when they tried make homefront they ran out of money sold it to deep silver and was a mess.

      Crytek from now on has lost ALL its real talent and they should stick to tech demos

    • Luke Skywalker

      how are you so sure about that? did all their talent work on homefront? I didn’t know they sold the developers too I thought it was just the IP. we all saw how homefront came out. maybe it was a good idea that they had scrapped the project don’t you think?
      after deep silver bought the franchise i’m sure crytek had a sigh of relief with the statement “good riddance” and a bunch of exclamations.

      anyway, saying they lost all their talent I think is a bit out of reality. I mean, we haven’t seen a crytek game in a while but homefront is not one of them.

    • Psionicinversion

      They sold home front because they didn’t have the money to finish it. The good talent left crytek because they couldn’t afford to pay people so CIG scooped them up and set up an office in Frankfurt for them.

      I know because Sean Tracy who was at crytek and held a decently high position told us. It was no secret crytek had major money issues

    • Luke Skywalker

      that’s what happens when upper management takes all the money.
      anyway, i’m looking forward to star citizen as a full fleshed out game. hopefully the crowdfunding doesn’t run out and then it’s crytek all over again

    • Psionicinversion

      I think one of the main reasons was they kept all there employees when they had nothing in development so money was bleeding out

    • LordCancer Kain

      they didn’t necessarily sell crytek uk, they failed to pay employees wages and uk courts arbitrated a forced sale. so more like it was taken because yerli is as incompetent at running a business as he is at making games.

    • Psionicinversion

      Where did I say they sold crytek UK?? I said devs left crytek in general and went to work for CIG

    • LordCancer Kain

      homefront was a mess before crytec bought it and one of the most stupid decisions thq made choosing to do a sequel to homefront instead of frontlines in the first place. why crytec chose to buy homefront thinking it had some potential is a complete mystery to me. and it just goes to show just how terrible crytec is at actually making games people want to play which they have only done once with far cry and made the worst decision to sell the franchise to ubisoft. crytec should just close down because there engine sucks and there games blow.

  • Mark

    “Higher quality rendering features”, nice! “Allows us to fill in the higher requirements for 4K”, confusing. I wish these dudes would stop bringing up 4K, when most games on the Pro won’t be native 4K, and it doesn’t have to. But dam, it just feels like some developers are keeping people hung up on a lost cause on the Pro….I rather not hear it.

    • Psionicinversion

      really funny how devs before werelike oh its 900p or 720p now its 4K but really its 1800p or lower. just goes to show the fickle natutre of the industry

    • heavenshitman1

      I think it’s funny how a dev can bother praising PS4pro 4k abilities when your hardware review media basically shrugs off an RX480 for PC (which would be quite more powerful than PS4pros, with the higher clocks and several GBs of built on VRAM), as basically incapable of 4k at any meaningful frames or detail

      Think they’re just trying to promote their own software on the system

    • J.j. Barrington

      You think maybe it’s related to the lack of overhead on console hardware?

    • heavenshitman1

      Maybe, doubt the overhead would be that big, especially when trying to run 4k.
      I think you’ll find by PC standards, even the PS4pro will pale in the 4K department.
      An RX480 might cost a couple hundred bucks, and it can do games at 4k, just not well enough to make the PC community care. The 480 all-round, is just a good card

    • Gamez Rule

      To be honest for £332 IMO the PS4-Pro is well worth the money and allows gamers to play games at high standards when compared to other consoles. And to be honest too have a PC made with a similar spec of PS4-Pro would cost much more than what the console offers for the money.

    • heavenshitman1

      Well this is starting to deviate from my original point in this thread. Originally only stated its funny such a tech savvy company is praising hardware that most anyone in the hardware and software business couldn’t bother coughing at.
      Even GTX 1080s in many circles are being given hum-ho’s in their 4K abilities.

      Talking bout PS4pro price though, everyone says a PC costs a fortune. Not really true, the average PC already has the RAM and CPU. Getting PS4pro level graphics will take a nominal GPU upgrade for most.
      An RX480 at a few hundred is well beyond PS4pro performance

    • Gamez Rule

      The reason I posted about price of PS4-Pro and PC costs was due to your second post you made “I think you’ll find by PC standards, even the PS4pro will pale in the 4K department” ? “An RX480 might cost a couple hundred bucks etc…”

      So in all fairness could you buy or make a new PC for £332 that offers what PS4-Pro offers users / gamers? I believe the answer is no ( but I am willing to be open minded ) hence my post above.

      We all know gaming PC’s can be better than any console when it comes to gaming, but that’s when you want to spend money. Example you mentioned about the GTX 1080 and how some people hum-ho in that GPU’s abilities, and that card costs £500+ alone, the RX480 is £200+ alone too. So PS4-Pro IMO offers a very good buy at that performance.

      From the looks of things the PS4-Pro’s GPU is set between the PC’s GPU’s *RX 470 / RX 480 GPU*, but console hardware when used by devs seem to get more out of consoles lesser hardware due to optimization etc.

    • heavenshitman1

      Yes consoles do get far better utilization vs PC, just less overhead and with set hardware devs can squeeze out more.
      PCs traditionally favour texture rez, screen rez and AA etc.. All those details consume massive performance for little visual effect

    • Mark

      That’s because exclusives used to sell systems, now it’s power, and resolution is its main metric lol. And imo, developers and Sony are pushing the Pro as 4K. It makes sense, they’re trying to say hey, PS4 is 1080p, the Pro is an upgrade at 4K. They’re tryna get people to easily understand why they should upgrade, by throwing 4K around.

    • Barry Harden

      Don’t worry, the Scorpio won’t be able to achieve native 4K@60fps either without some kind of upscaling like what the PS4 Pro uses. Important thing to note is the low $399 price compared to the $499-599 price the Scorpio will come at. Then the fact that you can enjoy 4K and HDR right now instead of waiting a year for the underwhelming Scorpio.

    • Luke Skywalker

      lets not talk as if we know the future ok buddy?

    • Guest

      Why, he’s absolutely right. It wont do native on all games, just like Pro, and will likely cost more.

    • Luke Skywalker

      no one said it would do 4k on all games, there’s no mandate for that. Microsoft said developers can use the machine however they want, as in set a base resolution and turn up graphical settings to 11 or go 4k with high settings or go 2k@60 or do it however they want to, they will also be able to use higher quality assets too as Microsoft said. but all in all one things for sure developers will have a lot more power to work with and I think that’s the meat of the matter. we don’t know what the price will be, it could be $400 or more, we can speculate on pricing but lets not treat our speculation as if they are facts.

    • Gamez Rule

      “no one said it would do 4k on all games”

      Greenberg said during the Xbox FanFest in Mexico City that,

      “This will really bring the most powerful console you’ve ever seen. It will bring these really true 4K, really incredible visual games that we’ve never seen before on the console. People who have spent thousands of dollars on a high-end PC are getting that experience. How do we bring that to scale in a console in your living room? That’s a big part of what Project Scorpio is about”

      It also seems that *ALL* first party titles from Microsoft will run in native 4K on the console. “Any games we’re making that we’re launching in the Scorpio time frame, we’re making sure they can natively render at 4K”

      So yes MS are stating the above about 1st party titles.

    • Luke Skywalker

      I don’t think all first party games mean all games on the platform.

    • Gamez Rule

      Don’t know about that but the wording from MS is as follows.. “Any games we’re making that we’re launching in the Scorpio time frame, we’re making sure they can natively render at 4K”

      This could be all MS games? All first party games? Or all games launching?

    • Luke Skywalker

      Loftis, the head of Microsoft studios and Phil already stated it’s 1st party titles, so when Greenberg repeats the statement, it can only mean 1st party titles. Microsoft are not the ones making 3rd party games so they couldn’t be talking about those. Even though spencer said he’s not so keen on the idea of mandating a resolution even for 1st party but those are loftis’s studios so he has full confidence in her.

    • Mark

      Well I never thought Scorpio would run most games at 4K/60fps anyway. Some games will (like NBA 2K17 on the Pro), but their settings will def be medium lol. I don’t think u get what I mean. I’m not bashing the Pro. I’m simply saying it would be best used for “higher quality rendering features”, and that has nothing to do with 4K resolution. It’s more like advanced particles, lighting, etc. So when I hear devs talk about using the Pro for 4K content, I think the Pro could be better used elsewhere. Trust me, I fully hope Scorpio is used for theee same thing. 4K is great for sharp images, but I wanna see newer rendering algorythms…

    • Barry Harden

      The only realistic 4K both the PS4 Pro and Scorpio could do is through some kind of special upscaling. The checkerboard upscaling the PS4 Pro uses is actually quite good and frees up resources for other graphical assets.

    • Mark

      I disagree. Not that I needed to hear a rumour like this (from a credible source), but there’s already people behind the scenes saying Scorpio will be capable of running high end PC GPU performance, basically games in 4K, no upscaling. U prolly already read this, but here;

      http://wccftech.com/project-scorpio-run-4k-universal-windows-platform-pc-games-natively-rumor/

      Don’t know why people seem to think a bigger GPU with higher bandwidth and a newer architecture than the Pro, won’t run games in 4K, when the Pro’s already close to doing it. Lol

    • Barry Harden

      You seem to lack knowledge in these things. You also lack reading comprehension.

      Let me repeat: If PC grafx cards with 9 TF’s of power are struggling to do 4K@60fps then the Scorpio will have problems with its 6 TF of power.

    • Mark

      Hunh? U said 4K@60fps, 60fps, 60fps, 60fps, 60fps. Ur crazy man. I never argued Scorpio would run all games at 4K/60fps. I have no idea why u keep mentioning 60fps with 4K. Ahaha. The LOGICAL argument to make would be “A 9TFLop PC Graphics card can’t even run 4K/30fps, so why would Scorpio”. 4K/30fps would make for an argument, being that I think Scorpio is capable of it. Then we could debate. Read your dam argument man, c’mon.

    • Barry Harden

      4K@60fps is the pinnacle for console gaming. This is what you want at a MINIMUM and while not all games require it, they certainly look and play better with 60fps.

    • Mark

      What?! How the heck would Microsoft be able to pack into a darn console that much power? That’s a nuts proposition bruh. U even said they’d need more than 9Tflops!

    • Barry Harden

      If Micro$oft had waited for AMD to release one that could handle it then a console doing native 4K@60fps would be achievable. AMD is constantly shrinking the die process and cramming in more power with every APU generation.

    • Mark

      Are u nuts bruh? They’d need a 10 dam tflop console lmao. Ur talkin NEO GEO’s price tag!

    • Barry Harden

      Every new generation console release will cost money. You think the Scorpio will be cheap!? Point here is they should’ve skipped it for next year. Now they have no choice but to release a “premium”(Phil Spencer’s word) console for a “premium” price that still couldn’t do high end games with native 4K@60fps.

    • Mark

      Oh my goodness. Barry, the price would be waaay more than a conventional price tag of a console. They cannot provide 4K/60fps on a dam console at a reasonable price! U just said a 9Tflop card couldn’t do it, stop it! Enough nonsense. And if they wait till 2018, they might as well just launch the next generation Xbox! Barry, u are on some hallucinogens hard bro.

    • Barry Harden

      “Premium” console with a “premium” price. You think Micro$oft would heavily subsidize this? Just going to laugh at the field day we’ll all be having at the Scorpio. High expectations but delivering very few.

    • Mark

      Wow. Phil already said it won’t cost more than any console price we’ve seen. Lemme help you comprehend, this means Scorpio won’t be more than 600 bucks, but nothin less than $400, being that he confirmed it’ll cost more than the S model (duh). So, ur lookin at $400-$600 beans. It’s that dam simple, since u can’t even line up your arguments right, jeez. But I know, you’ll find a way to spin this one too….and sound even more confusing.

    • Barry Harden

      As I already stated the likely price would be from $499-599. How do you not understand this? Once it releases at this price there won’t be gamers flooding in as it’s priced out of most gamer’s reach. You have issues comprehending my arguments. Do you have some learning disability?

      Maybe gaming is the last thing you should focus on kid.

    • Mark

      First, at 500 it may or may not sell great, u have no idea, neither do I. So stop acting. And if u go bak and read ur original reply to me, u said 400 bucks is “low”, in which I stated Scorpio’s base 500GB SKU could possibly be $400, with $600 being the extreme low scenario, and the least likely for a few good reasons.

      Second, u made a straw man reply to my original post, by arguing the Scorpio “won’t be a true 4k console because it won’t do 4k/60fps”. To which I swatted down by telling you I never said it’d provide that much power anyway; it’ll be a 4K/30fps system. So what the heck are u claiming? That it won’t sell great? Uhh, ok, I never said it would. I, don’t, care. Ur reply to my original post left me confused because I don’t know what you’re tryin to prove, or ask…..why did u even reply to me? Lol. You lost me

    • Mark

      I’ll continue to pull up facts while u draw on…crap created in ur head that u HOPE will come true, ahaha. Because everything u say is SUBJECTIVE. I can’t stand biased people, especially so called adults..

    • Mark

      And “Premium” won’t mean $700 or $800 bucks, ahaha. Phil already said it isn’t gonna be more than ur standard console price. All he’s doing is making sure people don’t expect native 4K for a low end price….like the S model. That, is all bruh

    • Barry Harden

      HAHAHAHAHA It’s called softening the blow. The fact that he didn’t mention ANY ball park tells me you’re going to be paying dearly.
      You XBone idiots will swallow anything! I love the fact you fools got swindled on the Kinect 1 & 2!

    • Mark

      “Didn’t mention any ballpark”….uhh yes he did. Do u even care about informing yourself? Prolly not. “The Scorpio won’t be unlike any console price you’ve ever seen”. Ballpark that lol

      http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/10/03/dont-worry-about-xbox-scorpios-price-says-phil-spencer

    • Mark

      Boy u must hate Microsoft to be makin these absurd arguments. Ur tryin everything under tha sun! Dam

    • Mark

      No, for CONSOLE gamers, 4K/30fps is great, and 1080p/60fps on Ultra is great. That’s why I never argued to u about 4K/60fps anyway! Ahaha

    • Mark

      And why u bringing up price, and Scorpio being underwhelming? I wasn’t bashing the Pro at all mane.

    • Barry Harden

      I’m just pointing it out just in case you think the Scorpio will be the true 4K console which it’s not. If PC grafx cards with 9 TF’s of power are struggling to do 4K@60fps then the Scorpio will have problems with its 6 TF of power. Just facts.

    • Mark

      Barry, who’s arguing that the Scorpio will be running most games at 60fps? I never said it would ahaha. C’mon mang. It’s like ur nitpicking wherever u can, and I didn’t even say these things..

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Increased ram? Where ? Last time I checked the PS4 PRO has 8G of Ram it’s the same as the PS4 lol

    • Psionicinversion

      its an extra 1GB of crappy DDR3 so it naturally frees up 0.5GB of GDDR5, dunno how it magically gets to half it but there you go

    • kma99

      Isn’t that extra gig for the operating system also?

    • Psionicinversion

      well it supposed to store any OS stuff in it rather than the GDDR5 so it frees up and extra 0.5GB DDR5 or something like that

    • Psionicinversion

      ugh GDDR5 for games

    • Guest

      “ugh GDDR5 for games”
      And another really stupid statement. Its only whats been being used forever now, but “ugh”,….clown!

    • Guest

      “its an extra 1GB of crappy DDR3”

      Oh you mean like the same RAM type as the main RAM on the X1?

      “dunno how it magically gets to half it but there you go”
      It frees up a gig of the GDDR5 RAM and 512MB is used for textures and the other 512MB is used for 4K UI. Learn beyotch!

      And p.s. DDR4 is crappy, it barely performs better and just keeps adding more and more lag. They might as well go video memory as they are practically there latency wise.

    • Psionicinversion

      Ddr4 is for servers so it is needed where the bandwidth matters

  • Cenk Algu

    Lol haha!

    • Guest

      Your comment is “Lol haha!”

  • Mr Xrat

    All that stuff Xgimps told themselves. Bring on the tears!

    • kma99

      Tell us about that magical 8.4 tf and that wonderful 30 year old jaguar cpu again.

    • LordCancer Kain

      you two tards need to get a room.

    • Mr Xrat

      I’ll tell you about bu**hurt Xgimps misrepresenting Cerny because you’re upset at still being the gaming ghetto-dwellers. 🙂

    • kma99

      Lol no one is upset about him. Everyone is laughing at his damage control just like we are laughing at you.

    • Mr Xrat

      Apparently tech talk is “damage control.” Only in Xgimp land.

    • kma99

      You dont talk tech. You talk out your @$$

    • TheNorthFace

      i think 12gb ram is bigger than 8gb ram little rat

    • Mr Xrat

      No one cares what you think. 🙂

  • sazse007

    The taste of the secret sauce!

  • LostOdyssey

    How does 0.5GB Ram help that dramatically in the first place.

  • TheNorthFace

    512mb more RAM LMAO!

  • J.j. Barrington

    What messaging kerfluffle?


 

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