Witcher Dev On Xbox One Scorpio Price: ‘I Think They’ll Keep The Prices The Way They Always Have’

He also discusses whether his studio has started development on the new console yet.

Posted By | On 23rd, Jun. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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The Xbox One Scorpio was announced at E3 this year, and we got to see what Microsoft claimed would be the most powerful console ever created. With 6 TFLOPs of processing power, and a return to the kind of legacy that gave us (for their time) extremely powerful machines such as the original Xbox and the Xbox 360, the Xbox One Scorpio looks like a response to all the criticism the Xbox One has endured since launch, in the face of the more powerful PS4.

But this absurd overpowering of the hardware has also led to some concerns by fans, concerns that the new console might end up being far too expensive. Speaking to Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz, Gwent’s Narrative Designer at CD Projekt RED, GamingBolt decided to pose the question of Scorpio’s cost- and on his part, Tomaszkiewicz doesn’t seem too worried.

“No I don’t think [it’ll cost too much]. I think they’ll keep the prices the way they always have. It’s still sometime in the future,” he said. He also explained that CD Projekt RED haven’t yet begun development on Scorpio- they only learned about it the same time that everyone else did, during Microsoft’s E3 presser. “To be honest, I learned about it at the Microsoft conference,” Tomaszkiewicz admitted.

Personally, I am inclined to agree with him. Microsoft is a rich company, and will probably be willing to take a loss on the Xbox One Scorpio hardware like they always have, to be able to deliver a very powerful console at an affordable price- and if that does end up happening, then the console market is about to get very, very interesting indeed.


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  • Troy Marcel

    You deleted my comment. You sad little man pramath, just shows how right I was about you hating on Microsoft

    • Mark

      Hahaaa. “Sad little man”. Lmao. He musta pissed u off bro

    • Troy Marcel

      Not at all mark, just shows that he’s a hack that cant take criticism. He comes up with stupid comments like ” absurdly powerful”.

    • chaz

      Hm? I didn’t delete your message. I don’t even know what your message was. Disquss can often screw up on the backend, do’t go around blaming me.
      And I cannot possibly comprehend how you could conclude that I hate Microsoft from this news post, where I am doing nothing but praising them.

    • efnet

      Lol you parsing MS ….
      That’ll be the day….

    • chaz

      I didn’t parse MS, I praised MS.

    • kee1haul

      Done the same to me couple of times.

  • Mark

    Of course CDPR knew about Scorpio before E3….these guys sign NDAs well before we know anything about what they’re workin on. Why wouldn’t Microsoft want CyberPunk 2077 to get as much time for development as possible? Please he knew. But of course I get his thinking

    • cweb1988

      I don’t think he’d lie that blatantly honestly. If devs are truly just finding out from the announcement though, that’s rather surprising to me as well.

    • Psionicinversion

      probably because Cyberpunk 2077 isnt even releasing till 2018 at the earliest and they wont even receive dev kits till next year. besides all CDPR has to do is create the PC version and port that over to the scorpio edition seeing as the scorpio might equal pc at 1080p but its going come no where near at 4K

    • Mark

      Why wouldn’t they get dev kits till next yr? Also I personally feel if CP 2077 drops in 2018, it’ll prolly be 1st quarter like the Witcher. In which case the Scorpio will have been out only a few months. I mean I’m not blasting the guy or anything, but I don’t see Microsoft only tellin Todd Howard, Bonnie Ross, and a fee others before E3, & no one else, thats just my feeling. But if I’m wrong I don’t care, I just want these guys to have enough time for many games to have proper support on Scorpio come launch.

    • Psionicinversion

      because they cant really be manufactured till next year anyway without it costing a fortune plus if it based on Vega the actual GPU architecture isnt even done yet. There still working on it.

      Why do you think Scorpio has to be specifically designed for? it wont seriously it will just use the PC’s settings a bit of optimisation and job done they arent complex anymore. and at 4K the PC will still destroy the scorpio in visuals because theres no way its maxing out the visuals at 4K

    • Mark

      That makes sense

  • Doggystyle

    “and will probably be willing to take a loss on the Xbox One Scorpio hardware like they always have”

    LOL. Thank you for that comment. That made my day. Xbox is funny!!!
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pq2-roB58yE/UgVTWnCbSLI/AAAAAAAAGm8/U6j9t7PtQUY/s1600/Screen+Shot+2013-08-09+at+11.20.16+AM.png

  • Bill E Weaver

    funny watching the fanboys and pro sony sites trying to damage contol for neo/sony,lol. if it wasn’t for you guys hating for 3 yrs straight we would have never gotten the scorpio,lol…The “we heard you console”, thnx haters,lol!

    • Doggystyle

      LOL, you make a good point. You’re welcome.

    • Mr Xrat

      Yeah, they heard you wanted another rogering, and you spread your cheeks appropriately.

    • KashIsKlay

      Tell me again!

  • kee1haul

    $599 at launch.

    • BillyBobby

      Maybe, they did manage to launch a $150 controller… But seriously 600 is way too much. Even if the Vega 10 rumour is correct (Note that the Vega 10 is nowhere near 6 teraflop).

    • kee1haul

      Apparently Microsoft paid for all the AMD research for last few years, so they could get a great price. Maybe $499, with volume savings $449 after first year. I don’t know much about Vega, but they said 6 teraflops themselves.

    • BillyBobby

      Don’t know how the contract structure between MS and AMD works, but I am very interested to learn more about it. Do you have some links?

      Read somewhere that Sony is paying AMD to develop their chips and then pay AMD a small fee for every chip produced. That way Sony can produce their chips wherever they want (AMD,Samsung, global foundries or wherever). Think the motivation for this contract structure is to reduce the price bickering between Sony and AMD as manufacturing costs fall.

      Regarding the Vega. The Polaris 10 produces 5.83 teraflops at 1266 MHz. At this clock the Polaris chip uses less than 150 watts and maintains 60 celsius with a rather meagre cooling solution. At these specs you could probably put the Polaris 10 in a console without needing to reduce the clock(at least not down to 911MHz as suggested by leaks). The Vega 10 is rumoured to be similar to the Polaris 10, but contain more computing units. Assuming the Scorpio would use 60 (out of 64 total) of the Vega 10’s computing units and assuming that 1266MHz is viable clock for the Vega 10, the Vega 10 will produce about 9.5 teraflop. Putting the Scorpio in a totally different ballpark.

      Personally, I think perhaps MS might put a Vega 10 into the Scorpio. The idea being that you promise 6 teraflops but deliver close to 10. Regarding price I think $500 if Vega 10 or $400 if Polaris 10. I guess we will see sometime in 2017.

      If the teraflop numbers seem made up you can calculate them easily:
      36CU * 64 streams * 2 * 1266 MHz = 5.83
      60CU * 64 streams * 2 * 1266 MHz = 9.72

    • Psionicinversion

      youve also got to take into account the cpu on board and the RAM chips and the fact consoles are really small form factor limiting air flow. heat can build up because of that

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah vega 10 will be about 10TFLOP’s maybe even higher BUT consoles always under clock. Take the rumoured Neo specs, its basically an RX480 GPU right but its supposed to be clocked at 911Mhz versus RX480’s 1.26GHz thats why instead of Neo being 5.8TFLOP its only 4.19TFLOP

    • BillyBobby

      The Polaris 10 seems to be reasonably clocked at 1266 MHz. It produces little heat and uses little power. I cannot see it being clocked at 911MHz.

    • Psionicinversion

      It will be. The CPU is clocked 500mhz higher than previously and the gpu is clocked 111mhz higher than ps4. It will only be clocked that high. Pc gpu’s have massive coolers on them and are usually in well ventilated cases

    • BillyBobby

      You are assuming the leaked specs are the final specs. I am not convinced this is the case.

      The RX480 reference card cooling solution is rather meagre

      “However, it’s best described as “tiny,” as graphics card heatsinks go. Instead of having a single aluminum piece covering almost the entirety of the card, the main heatsink appears to be roughly the size of the blower fan in front of it, and it touches the small Polaris GPU alone. ”

      source: http://techreport.com/news/30305/radeon-rx-480-reference-card-gets-dissected-at-chinese-site

      Or the following forum thread
      http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118087

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah but your also forgetting consoles are designed to go into closed off home entertainment centers to greatly reducing airflow around the console as well. thats why they are like they are. They arent like PC’s out in the open with as much air as they can suck in. my PC draws in and pushes out easily 5x the amount of air a console does so the GPU has plenty of cool air to suck in and push out as my PC handles most of the heat dissipation anyway

  • HAppY_KrAToS

    As a Sony fan, I’m really happy with microsoft’s announcement :

    – nx, neo, Scorpio, more competition will be almost mandatory. I remember when Sony had to seduce future gamers to convince them into buying a ps3: the ps+ was literally flooded with free games, most being triple A titles, like mass effect. Today, with the current 45M ps4 vs ~20M xbox1 situation, the ps+ users get much less titles, and 95% is just small crappy indie games. We almost don’t get any true ps4 title.

    That’s why more competition will be amazing, for us, gamers.

    – by announcing the max power for the Scorpio, and its release date, Microsoft just multiplied the Neo power by 2 or 3 times.
    Remember when Sony waited the last minute to announce the ps4 price, and surprised all the devs, even those working closely with the company, by saying there would be 8gb of gddr5, when everybody was expecting to see 4Gb?

    With almost 18 months of ‘margin’, and aware of the Scorpio specs and its 6 tflops, Sony will now delay the neo, the system was supposed to be released next october,november, but now, they will take another 2 or 3 extra months, and will start upgrading the neo specs.

    No way Sony will allow another console to exist, as ‘the most powerful console ever’. Many people, including Xbox fans, have chosen the ps4 because it was the most powerful, games looked and played better, higher resolutions, etc etc.
    That’s why Sony will now return to the drawing board, and will find some solutions to increase the bus speeds, increase the amount of video memory, check other gpu/cpu solutions, create some custom chips to reduce the cpu usage (why not a chip whose main task would be applying several passes of a MSAA 16x /or better anti-aliasing processing, so every frame displayed on the lcd looks like a Pixar movie), among other solutions.

    Sony won’t release the Neo until the system is capable of 7-10 Tflops.
    Sony wants console enthusiasts and PC gamers to have a good reason to spend 600 or 700 bucks on a high-end system (they said they will be making money with every neo sold, that means it will cost much more than a normal ps4. Because if there is only 50 or 100 bucks difference between the ps4 and the neo, why even picking the ps4?),
    no way they will release a weaker neo, just to hear ‘WHAT, the neo is only 4.x Tflops, and the Scorpio is almost 2 times more powerful, LOLZ’, or ‘I prefer waiting a few extra months, and picking a much more powerful Scorpio, the neo is already too weak!’, and other comments like these.

    And because Microsoft could be lying, to force Sony to build a certain system.. and when sony finally announce their 6.2Tflops Neo, SURPRISE, the Scorpio isn’t a 6Tflops. .. but rather a 8-9 Tflops… Sony could well be forced to build a MUCH more powerful system than a 6Tflops one, just in case Microsoft manages to build something more powerful than the announced 6Tflops.

    Again, competition will be great.

    • nismo370z

      “the system was supposed to be released next october”
      Whaaaaaat,stop lying,when did Sony said neo to be released next october,Microsoft is so desperate that they announced 2 Xbox,looooool!!!!
      In october comes VR.RIP XBOX.

    • KashIsKlay

      I hope you understand that VR will be a small market. Most people at E3 complained about how the VR made them sick. It’s already getting a bad wrap. If people didn’t want to wear VR google for 3D tv’s what makes you think they would to get sick playing games?

    • BelAirBoss

      I don’t see that happening. What Scorpio could do is accelerate Sony’s plans for the PS5, but it’s doubtful that whatever plan they had for Neo would change that substantially.

    • BillyBobby

      Let’s not forget that we have not seen final specs for any of the machines. For all we know the machines could have the same amount of horsepower.

    • Psionicinversion

      no chance

    • HAppY_KrAToS

      Yes, but I’m glad Microsoft is making something really powerful, Sony will just have to follow. Also, with twice the sales, Sony became much less generous than last Gen, with the ps+, we had hundreds of free full games, most, Aaa titles like mass effect. Because currently they are number 1, they don’t feel the need to make many efforts, like releasing a good firmware with feature gamers actually want.

      With Nintendo and the Scorpio, the market may change. Sony will again have to ‘buy our trust, before getting our money.

      And new consoles mean more different exclusives .because in 3 years, we only got like 10 original titles, the others were simple remasters. They will have to create new franchises, new titles, to make gamers buy their console or not

  • BelAirBoss

    Uhhh…in fall of 2016, an Xbox One S with 2 tb hard drive will cost you 399. Do people really expect that a little more than a year later, a 4k capable, 6tb Scorpio with a hard drive that will need to be substantial considering the size of 4k game and movie downloads, will only cost 100 dollars more and be 499? That is highly unlikely.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it costs over 600 dollars and came with a 4tb hard drive, but I’m hoping it won’t be more than 549. It’s a premium product, and Microsoft is probably going to price it as such. I personally think that 549 is the basement of what it could cost, because Microsoft is branding this tech as the very best you can get in the console market, and it won’t be for everybody. Hence why Microsoft has started to introduce a tiered console structure….plan for pretty significant differences in prices between xbox one, xbox one S, but especially Scorpio.

    • Psionicinversion

      another idiots that doesnt know what hes talking about. Do you see PC file sizes massively different to console??? nope, now why cus resolution costs nothing in terms of space

    • BelAirBoss

      If someone could decipher this ignoramus’ comments and get back to me, I would appreciate it. His gobbledygook is meaningless to me.

    • Psionicinversion

      You tell me why you think just because it can play a game at 4k it will some how need more hard drive space?

    • BelAirBoss

      File download sizes for 4k content are significantly larger than 1080p content. The much bigger file sizes will require a bigger hard drive if you plan to have multiple games/movies sitting on the hard drive. It makes no sense to launch Scorpio with a 1tb, even a 2tb hard drive, because I believe you need a minimum of 60gb for a 4k movie and many need close to 100gb and game file sizes will likely be more than that, even with massive compression.

      When 1080p games are stretching the 50gb blu ray limit, you can expect 4k games to have hefty file sizes.

    • Psionicinversion

      Lmao lol rofl, yeah 100GB 4k uncompressed like if you ripped it off the disc, compress it with HEVC get rid of the audio streams you don’t need and will be like 5GB. Even a 5TB drive wouldn’t be enough. Anybody who does that will have 20TB NAS at least attached to there network or pc or whatever. I download bluray rips using HEVC and there like 700MB.

      4K assets in a game don’t take up that much space. Farcry primal on pc has a download for 4k assets and the combined size comes no where near 100GB

    • BelAirBoss

      We’re talking console ignoramus….try to keep up.

    • Psionicinversion

      What’s that got do with anything?? Plug your NAS into a router, as long as console has dlna which xbox does you can access it. Fact is nobody is going to be downloading 100GB 4k films on a damn console. It’s got a disc drive use it and if you do well internal 2.5inch that I’ve seen only go upto 2TB so you’ll have to have plenty of external drive handy

    • BelAirBoss

      I guess you can’t read or your comprehension isn’t very good…I clearly referred to game downloads as they relate to movie file sizes. Yikes.

    • Psionicinversion

      Ok so so you think say a game that is about 30GB normally is going jump to 100GB with 4K textures? Nope.

      The only game I could see getting close to that is GTA seeing as it was 65GB. There’s not many games that big.

    • BelAirBoss

      There are several console games this gen that are near the 50gb blu ray capacity. Stop your nonsense. For example, Cod Advanced Gold Edition was 45 gb. Battlefield Hardline was 43 gb. Batman Arkham Knight was 46 gb. That list goes on and on, but my point has been made. The 4k file sizes for games like these will be significantly larger. Wake up.

      You’re trying to cover your tracks but the diarrhea emanating from your rear is giving you away. Come back when the facts better match your argument, which will be never. See you then. Adios.

    • Psionicinversion

      BS they wont be signifiantly larger…]

      Ok ill have this unofficial bet with.you.. you know cloud imperium games and the single player Squadron 42? that is a game designed to be run at 4K with 4K assets and SC is to. this isnt no console downgrade game. Its about a 20 hour single player that is semi open in terms of how it will let you complete the mission, unlike MGS5 but tighter controls cus your in space.

      I will bet you £5 that SQ42 will not exceed 100GB with 4K assets… now SQ42 and SC will more than likely exceed that but for the first release of SQ42 it does not exceed 100GB.. deal or no deal?!

  • Psionicinversion

    If sony can do the Neo for $399 then MS can do scorpio for $499 no problem with a 500GB HD

    • BillyBobby

      Care to elaborate.

    • Psionicinversion

      simple wont cost much more to produce an approx 450mm2 die, maybe extra $60, and the price difference between an RX480 4GB and 8GB is $30 so for an extra $100 they can do it

    • BillyBobby

      So if I understand you correctly:

      Price Vega 10 APU – Price Polaris 10 APU = $60
      Updated Jaguar CPU part for both consoles (equal for both consoles)
      4GB extra ram = $30

      I also think a Vega 10 based Scorpio will cost $500, but I am not 100% sure it will be Scorpio based.

    • Psionicinversion

      no i think xbox will be using the mobile version of zen tbh with hyperthreading disabled unless they do go with jaguar so it doesnt absolutely destroy the xbox and to make sure games can work on both. yeah manufacturing is based on how many chips you can get out of the wafer. also bigger the chip the higher chance of failure which is why scorpio cannot be released until next year as failure rates will be to high. But youll have bigger GPUs with vega and of course the 16core + Vega Opteron APU’s and 32 core Opteron CPU’s being manufactured with big die sizes readying the process and improving yields ready for scorpio so it can be manufactured at a cheaper price as yields should be higher.

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  • Mr Xrat

    $499 for the Xbone, looking at whatever specs they’ve given out and the need to make an quick profit it’ll be $599-699 for Scorpio. Xgimps won’t mind, they’re used to getting screwed.

    • Psionicinversion

      how will they make a profit at 599 if no one will buy it. PS3 has already proved no one will buy a console at that price

  • KashIsKlay

    It’s going to be 499.99

  • Cory Wilson

    People don’t understand computer parts. It’ll be cheap by design. The scorpio will be built like a laptop or tablet with the whole system on a chip. This is much cheaper than having a separate CPU, gpu, and separate memory for both. Also amd has made real strides in their on chip gpu’s, and this will be even more advanced than any apu you can currently buy packing an actual amd Zen cpu. No way it’ll cost more than $400 not after the feedback they got from the $499 kinect required bundle


 

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