Graphine CEO: DX 12 ‘Closer To The Metal’, Allows More Optimization For Granite’s Tiled Streaming

Aljosha Demeulemeester expects a performance increased in the tiling back end.

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Microsoft recently revealed DirectX 12 for the PC and Xbox One, which promised a good number of improvements to the way we viewed games. While it won’t result in faster hardware, DX 12 will be capable of better efficiency and optimization, especially with middleware like Graphine’s Granite SDK.

We spoke to CEO Aljosha Demeulemeester about DirectX 11.2 and asked about the improvements that the API could provide. After talking about the potential of Granite when used with DirectX 11.2+, we clarified with Demeulemeester about the possible benefits with DX 12. He stated that, “DX12 continues to build on DX11.1+ and as such, also includes the Tiled Resources feature. DX12 is however closer to the metal and gives more control to the developer.

“This allows us to further optimize our tiling back end (for DX12) that takes care of loading texture tiles into video memory. Also, we get more access to how data is stored in video memory, which is very important for us. Specifically for our tiling back end, we expect a performance increase compared to DX11.1+ but we don’t have any hard numbers on this yet.”

DirectX 12 is still a ways off but is continuing to make waves for both good and bad reasons. What are your thoughts on the API? Let us know in the comments.


  • cybersigma

    Looks like microsoft’s claims weren’t all lies,this and stardom CEO’s statement

    • TomaszSzkudlarek

      Yeah, but these are still just more claims, not the facts.

    • mars mayflower

      These are claims from actual developers, not arm chair quaterbacks who think they know everything but really don’t know squat.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Another dumb MS fanboy flinging feces.

    • mars mayflower

      Your response != intelligence

      Your knowledge My fanboism

    • cybersigma

      That sums it up

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re just another dumb, demented fanboy cultist that thinks xbox is sekritly more powerful, it’s not. You are wrong and a maliciously evil fanboy cultist.

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

    • LGK

      “You’re just another dumb, demented fanboy cultist that thinks xbox is sekritly more powerful, it’s not. You are wrong and a maliciously evil fanboy cultist.”

      Wow you’re taking this really serious. Calling people demented fanboy cultists, wow. And all you do is copy paste your comments over and over.

      Let me guess, you’re that mike derp guy right?

    • Xtreme Derp

      Go back to misterxmedia’s blog and stay there please.

    • Guest

      You, sir, are an idiot.

    • cozomel

      Wow, that was powerful!

    • mars mayflower

      Looks like you’ve got it all figured out. Oh wait, you don’t. I am a 41 year old software developer that has owned computing/gaming devices since the TRS-80 Color Computer. I wrote code for it, and now I right code for C# frameworks including Unity. I have never once said, to anyone, that the X1 has more powerful hardware. It doesn’t. If it did it would cost more than $500. I knew exactly what the X1 was. A computing console that happens to play games. Voice control. Motion Control. Microsoft Services Framework. Unity 5 support (I’M WAITING MS). I’ve built enough PCs in my time. Big stupid machines that can do anything, including wipe the floor with a PS4 in a benchmark test. So what. I wanted one machine that included a 3D camera (think UNITY DEV KIT). One that could play some games, have some cool apps and take advantage of Xbox Music (formerly Zune Pass). Go figure, I guess I’m stupid. I guess I’m a stupid MS fanboy that likes to have good software, coupled with efficient hardware, that does what I want at high quality. And maybe I secretly wish there were some hidden sausage in the box. Sure, its kinda delusional, but that’s okay. I’m going to go play ACIV now but I guess I won’t enjoy it because its only 900p. You win.

    • cozomel

      if it would wipe the floor with the PS4 then it would scrape the floor with the X1. And seriously, dont tell people that you wish there was a hidden sausage in the box. Just saying, think about it. And dude aint you to old to be doing this? How many more manchild’s do we have here?

    • mars mayflower

      hmm, wipe it, scrape it, whatever you want to call it. and if you think 41 is too old to type things on a computer, then you may want to spend less time on message boards and more time at the beach or something. try listenting to miles davis or something. maybe you should try acid. go enjoy yourself, kid.

    • cozomel

      No, pops, not to old for the computer, to old for games. And i like your suggestion, mmm beach, girls, booties.

    • Xtreme Derp

      You admit it’s less powerful, well try convincing the other MS fanboy idiots of that because they’re all over the place.

    • mars mayflower

      It is less powerful for 3D processing, yes. It is better as a media center, hub type device with more potential for app support (Windows 8 universal apps). I just hope that MS can deliver on that potential. In the end, these things are just electronic devices. They will soon be outdated so going on and on about them is just silly. Enjoy what you have. Buy what you want (and can). I certainly will get a PS4 when the price is right and games can be bought at half the price they are now.

      I will say that DirectX has always outperformed OpenGL in Windows games that support both rendering methods. Unity OpenGL is a good 15% slower than Unity DirectX. I would hope that Sony’s first party studio’s OpenGL implementation is better, though, but I would still bet that DirectX will outperform OpenGL, at least by a slight margin. But when I hear devs saying that their could be an order of mangitude more overdraw, that gets my attention. That would be something to behold.

    • cozomel

      Yeah, they are claims from actual developers, but they are still claims. He has no hands on with Dx12 yet and you cant tell that he’s not even sure and he’s just guessing/assuming? You fanboys will fall for anything,….gullible! and naive.

    • mars mayflower

      wow, you really like to reply to stuff, don’t you? I bet your mom is real proud of you.

    • cozomel

      You know who else is really proud of me? your momma. And sorry, but i say sh*t to people who say stupid sh*t. And it seems you like to reply too.

    • cozomel

      Ssshhh, dont tell them that, it’ll ruins their little hopes and dreams. When you’re system is performing as bad as theirs is you have to latch on to something to give you hope.

    • mars mayflower

      shhhh, you’re dumb.

    • cozomel

      ssshhh, you dont like the truth.

    • mars mayflower

      truth #1: in approximately a year, Unity 5 will support DX12 and all current XBoxes (ones) will be fully functional dev kits.

      truth #2: I will then be too busy developing military simulations with motion and voice controls to read all the posts by you and your cohorts about how great the latest multiplat runs on the PS4.

      truth #3: yer dumb.

    • cozomel

      Says the guy that bought the X1, yer dumb.

    • mars mayflower

      uh huh

    • Xtreme Derp

      Who said they were “all lies”? It’s STARDOCK.

    • cybersigma

      Doesn’t that make his statement more valid,because he now felt the advantages and is happy bout it

    • cozomel

      Actually the Stardom guy, is just guessing, it doesnt sound like he really knows. But is rather making assumptions and all you delusional clowns bought it. Cuz y’all are fiending for some good news to the X1’s abysmal performance. But i thought bots didnt care about graphics or res?

      https://twitter.com/cozomel74/status/456096963080224768

  • Kevin Kirby

    Sony ponies be scared

    • Xtreme Derp

      In your delusional head, maybe.

    • Rai

      You know your’e a “pony” right?
      Those who get upset and/or offended by someone calling out a “pony” or “xbot” usually means they’re a part of the group.
      Just thought i’d point that out so u can revaluate yourself.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

    • cozomel

      And you know you’re a “bot” right?
      Those who get upset and/or offended by someone calling out a “pony” or “xbot” usually means they’re a part of the group.
      Just thought i’d point that out so u can revaluate yourself.

    • Rai

      Hmm? I thought I already told you not to talk to me.
      But you’d still attack me for your lover (Derp), eh?

    • cozomel

      Then why are you talking to me. You a chick? Cuz you song like one right now. Beyotch!

      And i’ll stop talking to you as soon as you stop talking to everyone else.

    • Rai

      What I talk about to others is none of your concern. Buh bye now. And I told ya I’d at least humor your pathetic replies.

    • cozomel

      And what i say to others is non of your concern, now buh bye, baby (pinches your a$$ on the way out).

    • cozomel

      MS xbots be stupid.

  • Reason Freeman

    Where are my lil ponies Derp & Cozzel…i’m sure they will be here shortly to copy & paste something from neogaf and claim these are all lies lol….they were just saying a few days ago that the devs werent talking about DX12….WRONG AGAIN lmao

    • Xtreme Derp

      You’re far too stupid to keep any tech related matter straight, or who said what. That was not me saying Granite devs were talking about DirectX 11.

    • kevin

      Don’t you just love how everything said by Sony is truth in the eyes of their fanatics , but let some say something similar about another product it all lies . Best part is they all think they know more than those who have hands on experience. Laughable isn’t it.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Worthless strawman post by a dumb delusional Microsoft fanboy.

      “it all lies” LOL the special kids are out today

    • Guest

      I knew my lil pony would show up. Like clock work the way you like to ride those xbox nuts

    • cozomel

      Yet youre the one riding xbox nuts.

    • kevin

      How are those far east nuts your riding.

    • cozomel

      Not nearly as good as those xbox nuts you’re riding hard!

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

      You can cry about DX12 and software updates all day, PS4’s hardware is more powerful and Sony’s ICE team and 1st party devs will take advantage to its fullest with their own APIs/drivers/SDKs/software.

      1080p 60 FPS games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion, others.

    • cozomel

      And the same is true of the bots, you all worship at the alter of MS. And i dont believe everything Sony, MS, or NIntendo, or any of company for that matter says. I let the product do the talking. And thus far the PS4 is the better product, PERIOD! better performing and lower price. MS has done nothing but hype its sh*t up since its announced it. And so far, its all been weak and a letdown.

    • kevin

      Worshiping all Sony fans have avatars of Kaz or of the cerny and you want to call Xbox worshipers. That laughable.
      Not really the so called MS fans seem to take everything in stride , it the Sony fans calling out everyone that says something positive about the Xbox one out .you may think ps4 is a better product I do not , as for Xbox one it has performed quite well and has not let me down sine 11/22/13 .

    • cozomel

      Well then, i can say that the Sony fanboys are just taking everything in stride. What a bullsh*t argument. And as for not being letdown, all i can say is, talk about low standards!

    • You are flat out wrong

      Where are you in the multiple articles where the Shitbox Done gets crushed?

    • cozomel

      Hey your buddy Brad Wardell even admits the PS4 is superior, will you? you sad, sad fanboy. And wtf are you talking about? wacko! I dont copy and paste

      https://twitter.com/cozomel74/status/456096963080224768

  • geo skou

    the ponies are pathetic.

    • Xtreme Derp

      LOL all I’m seeing here are dumb demented MS fanboys flinging feces like usual.

    • cozomel

      And the bots are even more pathetic. Supporting a even weaker system thats more important and saying stupid sh*t, like graphics and res dont matter, just becuase their beloved X1 can barely do it. And why would xbots spend $500 if res and graphics dont matter? Clowns!

    • kevin

      What do u care what they spend their money on , does it bother you cause if so u have issues .

    • cozomel

      You completely missed the point and obviously dont get it. Reread it, and try again. And im not the one with “issues”, you are when you cant even understand the point.

  • cybersigma

    Advantage or not,believing something before seeing it is foolish,but equally foolish is totally ignoring the claims of multiple people
    So yes there is probably a huge advantage but the scale of the advantage is yet to be confirmed

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have better graphics performance for the entire gen.

    • cybersigma

      So? what is the point?this is not a xbox one vs ps4 article

  • You are flat out wrong

    Nice improvements for the PC.

    Shitbox Done? 20% CPU boost and faster porter in 2016. Xbox One: Just Wait.

    • cybersigma

      Well he is talking about xbox one specifically and graphics ceo stated that they also saw an improvement, you are just a troll anyways

    • You are flat out wrong

      Read it again. The CEO does not bring up the Shitbox Done.

    • cybersigma

      I guess you don’t know but the software is one for xb1 and ps4,and ps4 doesn’t use direct3d

    • You are flat out wrong

      Yes, well done. He brings up DX11 and DX12.

    • cybersigma

      Huh?

    • You are flat out wrong

      He does not talk about the consoles or their respective benefits, talk is limited to the improvements between DX11 and DX12 and that’s more efficiency and better coding to the metal – we’ve known this for a month. It’s nothing new.

    • cybersigma

      Coding for xb1,coz this is what they use it for,no need to wet your pants on every xbox article

    • You are flat out wrong

      Consoles already enjoy the same low-level APIs that DX12 will bring to PC. Some people are expecting massive benefits but they really need to temper their expectations.

    • cybersigma

      No one knows whether xb1 enjoys same lvl of optimization as 360 or not atm,i guess we will just have to see

    • You are flat out wrong

      Very much so. Will be interesting to see how it evolves.

  • SasukeUchiha

    Ok Ponies just chill out, and xbots just wait until the proof is actually shown. Both sides are just as delusional, as murders

    • SasukeUchiha

      Really damn Delusional you guys really need stop 1) Ponies just chill because anything can happen 2) Bots We need more high quality and legitimate proof on an Xbone not an PC because for all we known this advantage could be on PC, with just 20% boost which is still nothing to PS4

      Fans just be happy for the games

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have better graphics performance for the entire gen.,

    • cozomel

      Stop talking to yourself

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have better graphics performance for the entire gen.

  • Matt Dickinson

    “Aljosha Demeulemeester” – what kind of name is that? Greek German?

    • cybersigma

      Code name

    • Matt Dickinson

      He uses a code name for his LinkedIn profile?

  • Reason Freeman

    Game Dev just tweeted that PS4 API can’t currently do what DX12 will do. It was actually a reply to one of our lil ponies cozomel

    • You are flat out wrong

      Currently. That custom API is going to be updated as well. Sorry to break your little heart. Enjoy your two year wait. :)

      Also, Cozomel? I just checked his Twitter, couldn’t find anything related to it.

    • Reason Freeman
    • You are flat out wrong

      “Really depends. There’s so many factors that affect perf. Depends how bad either is. :) In my experience, though, the driver.” Is that the one? Or the one where he says that Intel is a good employer?

    • Reason Freeman

      @draginol So what do you know about the PS4’s API and how it compares to DX12? And is PS4’s API also not fully utilizing the cores?

      @cozomel74 I’m afraid not.

    • You are flat out wrong

      He answered the second question. Both consoles are not using all cores if I recall correctly.

      Also you missed out the part where he says the PS4 has significantly better hardware.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have better graphics performance for the entire gen.,

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick..,

    • cozomel

      Man, you’re dumb. Mantle does it right now, and Mantle was modeled after PS4’s API (LibGNM/GNMX[the DirectX11.1+ like wrapper]). So you seriously think it cant do it? I think you better go learn something, so you dont keep coming off as being so f*cking stupid. And X1 definitely capable of doing it now and wont be able to til holiday 2015, which means Nov 15 at earliest. So have fun waiting til then to be dissapointed, sucker.

    • Johnny

      Butt hurt as normal he is. Hahaha hahaha

  • cybersigma

    Power or not,if ps4 has better games down the road,it will be my choice as a console,same goes for xbox one

    • JumpIf NotZero

      The Order might be good, could suck terribly. Uncharted will be good, the last of us sequel might be done right… I own a PS4 and I’m honestly not even sure what else is coming…

      I’m just not seeing Sony’s Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Crackdown, etc. For me personally, they’ll never have anything like Xbox Fitness, so I can assure that my Xbox will get used at least once a week even if I have no times for games on either platform. I can assure that my girlfriend will use X1 to watch TV or play some Peggle in the morning while eating breakfast.

      I’d probably suggest waiting until this year’s E3 to start getting all riled up about games. Both companies are going to have to put on a good showing. I think MS is already swinging way harder, but we’ll see. Good times to be a gamer!

    • cybersigma

      Nice opinion, but my pt was that I would always declare that system better which has better games,rather than the one which is more powerful

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Same as mine.

      Although I’d argue that one just plan on buying both at some point.

    • Johnny

      Me to I will be buying my ps4 next month or there after just wanted a few more games to be released.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 will have better graphics performance for the entire gen, if that’s what you mean.

  • Johnny

    More good news for xbox owners and bad news for ponys.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      The bottom line is even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.,

    • Johnny

      That is not the facts as you like to put it. Fact is cpu and gpu to the memory even how the the esram and ddr3 are layed out are heavily custom made and engineered solely for use in the xbox one and let’s not forget that the cpu and gpu are clocked higher than what’s in the PS4. Nothing in the xbox one are off the shelf parts every thing has been re engineered so how can you or I claim to know what either system is capable of or not? Fact is you don’t and nor do i, why someone might ask? We are not software engineers or have degrees in computer science that is obvious. Nor are we currently creating games for either system and we are not in the loop when it comes to dx12. All we have is what someone else says is factual information regarding the systems performance. So stop the charade you and I don’t know s*** . All we can do is SPECULATE. So I can stand by my statement good news if you are lucky enough to own a xbox one and bad news if you a fantard shrill. Btw cut paste is tacky.

    • Xtreme Derp

      LOL the “custom” fallacy. Complete fanboy BS. PS4’s hardware has as many or more customizations to it, and those customizations are for graphics performance, not multimedia and multitasking.

      PS4’s CPU performs better than Xbox despite apparently being clocked less, and it’s not a big deal either way.

      Xbox’s GPU clocked more, pointless and stupid straw grasping. Teraflops are what matter here.

      You have nothing but hand waving and “you don’t REALLY know what’s in it!!” conspiracy theory nonsense.

      You hate the facts so much you want to live in delusional la la land? There’s a blog for you already, called misterxmedia.

      It’s going to be a very long generation for you.

    • Johnny
    • cozomel

      Lol, Xtreme Derp just tore you a new a$$hole. You obviously dont understand this sh*t and are just believing bullsh*t

    • Johnny

      Oh look another pony come guzzler haha haha with no facts and no brains. Typical fantard! Oh your tears your tears maybe mommy will let you have milk and cookies before bedtime haha haha a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    • cozomel

      Oh look another bot come guzzler haha haha with no facts and no
      brains. Typical fantard! Oh your tears your tears maybe mommy will let
      you have milk and cookies before bedtime haha haha a ha ha ha ha ha ha
      ha ha ha ha ha
      and you sound like your 12

    • Johnny

      I sound like I’m 12 haha haha hahaha hahaha now that’s a laugh. I mean all you do is go from one article to the next bashing away on any positive news for the xbox and it’s all day long. You sound like you got no life no job and you probably live with yoir mommy and daddy. Gtfo and stfu

    • cozomel

      Yup, you definitely sound like a 12 yr old whiny b*tch. And you wish i went from article to article and spent all day here. And guess where im at right now? That’s right work, you know that thing you dont do little johnny. Now stop whining like a little b*tch and man up, b*tch.

    • Johnny

      I must have hurt your feelings hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha. I don’t call flipping burgers at McDonalds real work but you got to start somewhere I guess. Ma ha ha ha ha

  • Xtreme Derp

    Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater),
    +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and
    faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.
    Both
    Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of
    performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The
    difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it
    will always stay ahead in graphics performance.
    The bottom line is
    even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s
    memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker
    GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.
    If
    they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have
    lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being
    pushed.
    PS4 will have better performing games for the entire
    generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a
    hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can
    be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.
    Xbox
    has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16
    ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming
    performance. Take your pick.

  • Johnny

    Same old ponys butt hurt as normal. Cut paste and repeat as normal yeah let’s fill this page up with miss information.

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