Microsoft Set To Leave The Console Hardware Market, Says Analyst DFC

I honestly think they are missing the bigger picture here.

Posted By | On 20th, Jun. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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For a while there, we were convinced that Microsoft were preparing to leave the console market, once they started with their push for Windows 10 gaming- and given that Microsoft announced at E3 that literally all of their first party games and Xbox exclusives will be coming to Windows 10 as well, you would imagine us to be of this opinion even more now than ever.

However, other things have happened that have made us surer than ever of Microsoft’s commitment to gaming- they have announced two new Xbox consoles in the pipeline, and they have greatly expanded their investment into first party developed and published games for the Xbox. If Microsoft are planning on dropping the Xbox, they sure aren’t acting like it right now.

However, it does not seem as though Analyst DFC (Via MCV) is convinced regardless. In a recent note to investors, they listed what they feel are a series of problems with Microsoft’s Xbox strategy, all of which are indicative, in their opinion, of Microsoft eventually dropping the Xbox and moving out of the console hardware business entirely.

“The most immediate problem is Microsoft effectively killed the Xbox One Slim right out of the gate,” they said in an investor update. “If there were many Xbox 360, Wii U and even PlayStation 4 consumers interested in an Xbox One this holiday season they have now been told to wait until Scorpio arrives in 2017. Microsoft can only hope that the buzz around Project Scorpio goes away soon but with the cat out of the bag that is unlikely.

“There are all kinds of other problems with Microsoft’s mixed messaging. The pricing on the original Xbox One is great, and the Slim is wonderful, but all the important new games will be on PC, so why invest in a console? Just upgrade your PC. And if you do want a console why buy now when Scorpio will be here later. All of this is a net dampener on new hardware sales now and really opens the door wide open for Sony and even Nintendo for the NX.”

Their assessment gets even more scathing as they look at Scorpio more in depth, noting that there is a probability of Microsoft not even having an Xbox division by the time the promised Scorpio launch window approaches.

“The biggest issue is whether Microsoft will even have a game division by the time Project Scorpio launched,” they said. “It is no small irony that the E3 events went on at the EXACT same time as Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella was announcing the $26 billion acquisition of LinkedIn.

“The overall question now seems to be not if Microsoft will exit the game business, but when and how. Of course, that leads to many other questions such as how is exiting the game business handled? Is Xbox spun off? Does Microsoft find a buyer? Or does the company just shut Xbox down? DFC feels the latter option will most likely not occur but it is clear something must be done.

“Unfortunately the value of the Xbox brand is in serious flux with much of its advantage tied to the Microsoft Windows 10 operating system.”

Personally, I simply do not buy this theory- as I mentioned above, Microsoft seem to be more committed to gaming right now than they have been for years. I think this assessment is missing the point of Microsoft de-emphasizing hardware to focus more on services and revenue from software sales, primarily digital sales. Within this context, while I can certainly see Microsoft not caring about hardware as much, they’ll still definitely have flagship hardware on the market in some form- no different than their strategy for the Surface tablets, in a sense.

We’ll know soon enough, I wager- but for now, I am more confident in the future of Xbox than I have been for a while now.


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  • Doggystyle

    We all knew it was going to happen. The Microsoft Xbox has been trying to become the Microsoft Steambox ever since Sony pulled Phil Spencer’s Battletoads themed panties down and spanked him relentlessly. They’ve been moving the goalpost ever since they stopped reporting their sold thru numbers, and trying to use Xbox Live subscription data as a measurement of success. They lost this gen, and they lost BIG. Bye bye Xbox console. You screwed console gamers over last gen, and now its the gamers who are wearing the strapon. Good times man. Good times. Xbox Scorpio is doomed to be an expensive failure because what good is all that power if they don’t have any games??? And 4k televisions haven’t saturated the market yet. Fail.

    • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

      PC wins and Sony will run crying and screaming out of the industry after Uncle Andy realises he can never ever compete with PC with his weak POS4 and POS4 Pee-O since Sony 1st party is garbage and no one buys consoles for the exclusives.

      Beautiful scenes. Sonycuck tears as they are curbstomped out of the industry after Microsoft is ejected will be majestic. The PC and Nintendo future looks brighter than ever.

    • TPoppaPuff

      How do you win if you’re blocked? You’re a babbling child starving for attention and blocking you gives you less attention. It’s not like blocking you prevents anybody from seeing useful insight into any subject matter and actually makes the comments section a smarter, less vile place. I’m confused. Or is this how you troll people by making illogical, self-defeating hashtags in the hopes that they respond? I think I just got trolled. Well played.

    • d0x360

      I’d never block him I’d rather laugh at him

    • Doggystyle

      Truth is, he’s only blocked if you’re logged into Disqus. Until you log in, his immaturity is clearly on display.

    • d0x360

      I know he is and if he wants to act like a moron like he has the last 3 years and block people that’s on him but I’d never block anyone. Freedom of speech is important to me even of someone says something stupid

    • TPoppaPuff

      Yeah it just seems that his plan is very poorly thought out. He goes through a lot of effort to be an elitist and a bigot to get one moment of attention then he’s shut down immediately, thus never actually able reap any sort of sadism he’s trying to cultivate. There are tactics to actually getting attention and lure people in and keep them there but he clearly doesn’t have the tact to do so. It’s like he doesn’t have the comprehension to pace himself and prematurely goes full troll.

      He’s a one post chump, lol.

    • nismo370z

      troll detected

    • d0x360

      Yea he is, a complete troll. He acts like an 11 year old constantly.

    • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

      Sorry you bought an underpowered starvestation 4 with graphics like this 🙂

    • Michael

      You are confused, pony. They may leave because after scorpio there may not be any need for console hardware to deliver games. MS is the best software company pony in the world. Sony is the one that actually needs gaming to survive. Going broke they are still.

      And hey pony, this is the same journalist you scolded for a article a out scorpio being given superior to neo. Now the tables have turned. I wonder why…lol.

    • d0x360

      Considering the ps4 is the only part of Sony bringing in money they have major issue.

      Here’s some funny info. Sony has to pay MS fee for the bluray spec AND the GPU in the ps4 because they own the patent on single vertex and pixel shader pipelines. Nvidia also has to pay them. Amd is currently exempt due to providing hardware for consoles and r&d above and beyond what was required without charging for it.

    • Doggystyle

      Here’s something even funnier. Is that your best reply? Is that all you got? Who cares about any of that stuff? You should just be quiet now. You got nothing.

    • d0x360

      I’ve brought plenty of facts. You have brought ZERO because I’m right and it can all be proven with Sony’s financial results. Need money to run a company. Sorry.

    • Doggystyle

      MS is losing money in their Xbox division. Sony is making a profit in their gaming division. Your facts don’t amount to anything but spin. Fox News Channel has a new job opening for a bullshi* artist. You should apply.

    • d0x360

      Jesus dude are you blind. Sony ISNY MAKING MONEY AS AN ENTIRE COMPANY. FORGET THE PLAYSTATION DIVISION.

      Microsoft on the other hand spends more per year on r&d than Sony makes as a company in 5 years.

      Microsoft can afford to sit back and watch Sony go under. Eventually they have 2 choices. Close every division which won’t happen or sell the PlayStation brand and try to save the company.

    • Doggystyle

      Blah. Blah. Blah.

    • d0x360

      Another excellent rebuttal backed up by cold hard facts of business. Bravo gamer.

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      man nice way to down play only reason i posted this games to show that Sony have enough money to put grate amount of exclusives and Microsoft is joke thy don’t even have single good rated exclusive and exclusives does matter after watching legend of Zelda trailer nx is must buy for me.

      metacritic

      Halo 5 6.5 User Score
      Quantum Break 6.7
      Dead Rising 3 6.8

      All of your games are garbage plus we can buy this on pc.

    • bewareofZ

      see above 🙂

    • Doggystyle

      LOL, you just slapped him square in the mouth!

    • bewareofZ
    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      actually sony is now more alive then ever just look how many exclusive they have.

      This big budget exclusives are only coming for ps4

      1 The Last Guardian
      2 Prey
      3 Resident Evil 7
      4 Horizon Zero Dawn
      5 Detroit: Become Human
      6 Days Gone
      7 Spider-Man
      8 God of War
      9 Death Stranding
      10 Persona 5
      11 Yakuza
      12 Gravity Rush 2
      13 final fantasy 7 remakes
      14 Last of Us 2
      15 Resident Evil 7
      16 Deep Down
      17 MatterFall
      18 Crash Bandicoot
      19 wild
      20 Nioh
      and more

    • d0x360

      Most of which are games the average gamer doesn’t care about. Plus how far are we into this cycle and just now Sony is finally coming up with a decent lineup of more that 1 or 2 games a year?

      I’ll list the games that will sell well and bookmark this, set a reminder and check back in a year to prove me right.

      God of war.
      Resident evil (cross platform, even Xbox one minus vr)
      Prey (also multiplatform)

      That’s it. The rest are wither going to be niche titles, or titles that won’t sell because they aren’t good.

      BTW where did you get last of us 2 and do you REALLY think anyone actually cares about an HD update of crash bandicoot? You are joking right?

      Spiderman 2 MIGHT sell on name alone. Might. Whether it reaches mass market or not depends on whether its good.

      Nioh will be garbage except among people who play dynasty warriors… A very small crowd overall in the west where it matters.

      Last Guardian is ultra niche like every other game they have made.

      horizon MIGHT sell but the gameplay looks pretty tame and that studio has never made a truly good game. Pretty games yes, good no.

      Death Stranding will only sell if its a horror title in vein of silent hill.
      Detroit… Who cares about David cage games…NOBODY!

      Days gone would gave potential if dead rising didn’t exist and have 10x the number of zombies on screen…and you know fun.

      You can list games all day long but overall Sony since the ps2 era ended has had a bad track record overall.

      Yes there are gems that I love but most of what’s here are titles that will sell to fans of those series and that’s it.

      I also love how ps4 owners kept harping on Xbox because a lot of exclusives went to PC but now that Sony is doing that it’s suddenly OK lol.

      Good luck…see you in a year when 70% of these games are either not out because of delay, didn’t sell well and or don’t review well.

      Don’t take that as cynical take that as being realistic. I want Sony to do well. I want ms to do well. Competition is absolutely required. Blind faith however is not and has no place in entertainment.

    • Joe_HTH

      Considering you’re a Sony shill, you should care. When 80% of a company’s revenue is generated by market as volatile as console gaming is, you should care.

    • Doggystyle

      If they are the best software company, then why are you constantly resetting your Xbox One in order to make it work like it was advertised? After 2 years since release, where is your background music on the Xbox One?

    • Joe_HTH

      Microsoft doesn’t develop games dumbass. They own studios that do.

      As for Xbox Live and it’s UI, it wipes the floor with PSN. As for games, The Xbox One has had a vastly superior line up exclusives for the first two years of this generation. It took that long for Sony to come up with something worth a damn.

    • d0x360

      Sony is on the brink of bankruptcy. Nuff said

    • Doggystyle

      They are? Wow. Is that what your Ouija board says, or are you just mad at me.

    • d0x360

      They have been for about a decade. Its been all over the news for a long time but google is your friend. They no longer make products aside from ps4. Yea they make TVs but they don’t make the LCD panel so really they make the shell and software. What else do they actually make as opposed to licensing their name? Not much.

      They have sold off buildings to pay debts and sink any profit from ps4 into r&d. Just look at their stock index. Its quite clear.

    • Doggystyle

      I’m sorry, are we still talking about game consoles, and the game industry, or are we now just talking about anything you can pull out of your a** just to suit your failed argument. Go Google that and get back to me. Nobody in here gives a damn about how well you forecast the future of anything other than games and game consoles. Go kick rocks because you’re wasting my time with your nonsense speculations about things outside of the topic on hand that I couldn’t give a crap about.

    • d0x360

      Yes you’re quite right…Sony running out of money has nothing to do with PlayStation.

      Bury head in sand.

      I suggest YOU google or just block me if you can’t handle a simple economic fact.

      It doesn’t mean game over for Sony it means they have ALOT to worry about.
      Relax. Look at sonys operating loses over the last 15 years. See anything? If you don’t then you need to learn how to read lime graphs. How about googling Sony and just the word bankruptcy or Sony selling huge buildings and holdings to help cover massive launches. How about googling Sony laying over people and shuttering r&d facilities…

      Or insult me, be ignorant and move on.

      I only argue with facts. Well researched facts. Good luck winning an argument against facts with passion.

    • Doggystyle

      What does any of that have to do with anything we are discussing, or the article? Stop wasting my time with your economic doom and gloom nonsense. This ain’t Forbes, this is Gamingbolt. If I wanted to waste my time talking about this stupid bullsh**, I’d be watching…
      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/09/neil_cavuto_h_2013.jpg

    • d0x360

      Ahh yes great rebuttal. Ignore the argument make some asinine comment and move on.

      Guess what friend. Sony’s money issues directly relate to PlayStation. If psvr bombs that’s a huge blow to Sony. One they can’t afford which means LESS exclusive games. Psneo another huge blow. If that fails the entire company is at risk… But sure… Not important at all.

    • Doggystyle

      Sony has all aces in their hand. Sony has dictated every move MS has made since they released that garbage console.

      They dropped the Netflix paywall because of Sony.

      They backtracked on their used game policy because of Sony.

      They started giving away free games every month because of Sony.

      This list of things that Sony forced Phil Spencer to do is a mile long, and you Xbox fans should be kissing Sony’s a** right now, instead of kissing Phil Spencer’s a**. If MS was in the lead, you would still be bent over with your cheeks spread wide, and the Scorpio wouldn’t even exist, and all of your exclusives would still be console exclusive. Sony forced MS to put their exclusives on PC just to increase their numbers. Sony whooped that green Microsoft a** with a passion never seen before. Good times bro. Good times.

    • d0x360

      You are completely ignoring a bigger picture…why I have no idea.

      I don’t want Sony to go away. Ignoring their financial situation is…silly. Fact is they sell a lot of consoles and that’s it. A massive company with 1 product that sells well doesn’t last long. If they closed every division and laid multiple thousands off and became a gaming company that would be one thing but the stock holder won’t let them.

      You keep living in your dreamworld though. You are either young and don’t understand the realities of world economy or you’re choosing to ignore blatant factual evidence for some misguided fanboy agenda.

      This conversation is sadly over. If you can’t see reason and data right at your finger tips…I pitty you.

    • Doggystyle

      You’re right about one thing. This conversation being over. Bye bye now.

    • d0x360

      Indeed I have no patience for Ignorance. They say never have arguments with idiots because they have more experience. You clearly do.

      Enjoy ignorance. I hear its bliss.

    • Doggystyle

      LOL, but I thought the conversation was over already? Are you lonely? Have you tried checking your Grinder profile to see if you’ve got any new connections?

      SHUT UP ALREADY.

    • d0x360

      I was bored, you offered me some entertainment. I was the only one in the house still awake.

      Oddly you said the same thing because you couldn’t present an actually argument that made sense yet kept replying too. So at the very least I made sense and you…looked sad.

    • Joe_HTH

      You definitely have the right name. The only better name for your would be douche bag.

    • Joe_HTH

      None of that was because of Sony you idiot. They made those moves because they realized they screwed up and what they were pushing wasn’t going to fly. Sony however did start charging for PSN because of Microsoft and Xbox Live.

    • Tim Prather jr

      REALLY?……Sony never Spanked Phil Spencer, he wasn’t even there during the Xbox 1 develipment. He assumed control once the E3 gaff of Microsoft, and has brought Microsoft right back into the fight, and now, with the latest news, and developments, Microsoft will leave Sony to the pittance of consoles, and go into gaming pc/consoles with UWA, meaning everything on PC can be played on console, vice versa. Sony fanboy, learn about tech, and the stock market, Sony lost the battle, DECADES ago. Sony will go down in history as a good gaming company, that tried their best, and made solid contributions to the gaming industry, but when it’s all said and done, everyone will point their fingers and laugh, and say look……there’s Sony, the company that thought they killed Microsoft, hahahahaha. Go to bed, it’s past your time.

  • KashIsKlay

    The slim is doing well with pre-orders and is for people who don’t want to pay 500-600 for a new console that will just play the same games. The same reason people by a toyota over a lexus and vice versa. Those analyst have failed at their job.

  • LDS

    clearly the analyst doesnt count in the fact that MS is just focusing more on software sale than hardware. They also make a decent amount of revenue from xbox live service so why would they throw that away??

    MS wont care anymore if their new xbox over sells PS or not at this point. rather, they will more care about how much game they sell on both xbox and win10. Selling just a console has been either breakeven or loss mostly anyway.

    • HAppY_KrAToS

      Microsoft could raise the price of all their office/windows products by a mere $1, and that alone would bring them 10 times more money than the whole gaming division does.

      For sure, THEY DON’T need the Xbox division.

      they entered the gaming market only because they didn’t want Sony to have the monopoly inside all the households, where people would get a Sony TV, dvd/blu-ray player, portable media player, digital camera, digital recorder, etc, and… a gaming console.

      just like their Zune player. Did they really needed the few dozens millions $ they would make with that player.? Of course not. Again, they just didn’t want apple to grab 100% of the market shares, and so they built the Zune.

      Pcs have finally became super cheap and powerful. Even an integrated video card will be more than enough to play 90% of the existing PC games, even at low resolution. Again, with windows 10, they want to avoid the situation where 100% of PC gamers will go to steam like services. There are plenty of billions to be done, on those small PC titles,and they want a chunk of it.

      Announcing the Scorpio, 18 months before release, is just a desperate move, to counter the nx/neo release, hopefully making people wait a bit, until they finally can have a system capable of beating Sony.
      But 15-18 months, it’s almost 2 years. 2 years, it’s a lot of time. We can almost have 2-3 new generations of cpus, sockets, graphic chips, ram, etc etc.
      By December 2017, 6 tflops won’t scare anybody. By that time, a 250$ graphic card will easily hit the 8-10 tflops. And even a simple cheap computer will come with 16gb of ram.

      It may sound a lot, today but in 15-18 months, gamers will be used to such power, and even more. Won’t be surprised, if a sept-2017 apple tablet can easily do 4k gaming. Even to small kids, 4k will be everywhere.
      4k60fps? Probably yes. But only with smart algorithms, to upscale everything.
      Even a $5000 monster PC, with dual titan cards, can have a hard time to display recent games at 4k60fps, at max settings.no way a 550-700$ Scorpio will natively be able to run 4k60fps, with 0 compression and max quality.

      No, it’s another Microsoft PR stunt/trick, to try to avoid Xbox fans to move to the competition.

    • d0x360

      No they could not. Microsoft makes an ungodly amount of money on Xbox live. Xbox live also is an r&d test bench which is an invaluable tool for the company.

      Look at some stock data before you make dumb statements that you assume are fact.

    • Gene

      Xbox is MS most successful division after Windows. There was a SMALL faction of stockholders that wanted out, they lost. And ,they were wrong the X1 is successful and profiting. One man’s opinion doesn’t speak for all of them. That’s why I hate articles like these, the author is clueless.

    • Pramath

      The most successful Microsoft division after Windows is Office, then services, and then their server business. There is, as a matter of fact, no Xbox division, just one devices and entertainment business division than Xbox is part of, and it is one of Microsoft’s least successful divisions, although the performance of the Surface tablets in recent years has led it to start making a profit.

  • Vik

    the only thing I never understood, is why microsoft can’t invest some money into games, studios, new ip’s? ps4 is a success, because it has good lineup of games releases throughout the year. why is it so hard to understand?

    • TPoppaPuff

      Microsoft did this last gen and won that battle. The problem with the Xbox One was that first impression. The always online, the TV TV TV emphasis, the forced Kinect bundle, the $500 price point, and the limited GPU have left such bad tastes in people’s mouths that it doesn’t matter what games they offer. Unless this generation was to go eight years like the last one (and that’s already been established as not happening) there’s simply no time for them to turn it around based on games. Sony only turned it around with that much time on PS3 and they didn’t shoot themselves in the foot nearly as bad as Microsoft did.

      PS4 is a success because it’s a more powerful machine and MS squandered eight years of brand recognition in one E3. Sony said all the right things and had the more powerful hardware. That’s why they won this generation.

      I mean, let’s be honest here: the lineup of games on both platforms is 98% identical and are released simultaneously. The number of exclusives are small. The PS4 has had Bloodborne and UC4. Then there was Street Fighter 5 which has been wildly disappointing. They also had Rocket League for free and a several month timed exclusivity. That’s it as far as anything of note. Microsoft has had Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive, 3 Forzas, Titanfall, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, and Rise of the Tomb Raider for a year as exclusives in that same amount of time. It’s not the lack of games that have been their problem.

      I’d love to see MS invest in more studios and games because I love games, but that hasn’t been the difference this generation.

      I say this btw as someone who primarily has been playing games on PS4.

    • Mark

      On point. People simply want the system with most power to run multiplats……the exclusives, do not even sell that well, on both consoles! Because of social media imo, it’s mainly about power & resolution to people.

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      that is why 13 million people bought wii u and MS exclusives sucks

    • Joe_HTH

      Yeah, Microsoft has no games whatsoever.

  • Riggybro

    Xbox are just repositioning themselves for the future.

    There will be no consoles in the future. Just a monthly streaming subscription.

    Unifying Win 10 with Xbox and making Xbox (Scorpio) basically just a ready-made mid range PC option indicates this.

    • mechlord

      You contradict yourself. You think a ready made steambox scorpio will not be a console? Ludicrous!!

    • Riggybro

      Scorpio is another step towards no consoles is what I am saying. Scorpio will be even more “off the shelf” than XB1.
      The Xbox brand as a separate entity will merge into “Windows”.
      Soon there may be little point in buying your Windows box from MS – there could be cheaper 3rd party ones or just build your own better one.
      Then eventually everything will streamed/subscription based anyway which will wipe out the traditional “box under the tv”.

      I think MS/Xbox know this and they are just slowly transitioning the console market.

  • mechlord

    People seem to think MS will make lots of money from games on Windows 10 as it makes on consoles. The amount of games MS publishes begs to differ, since 3rd party games will be on steam and if MS tries to force license fees for games on win10, we will be reminded of the limux push Gabe and gang were making for that exact scenario

    • TPoppaPuff

      That push has gone nowhere though, because people don’t want to bother with Linux and dual booting OSes.

    • d0x360

      Steam even on Linux charges 30% for every game sold. Soooo….that’s less than the 12% Sony and ms charge. So yea

  • Bill E Weaver

    the slim xb1 is at the top of amazon rgt now

  • hiawa23

    They surely did not tell anyone to wait. You can enjoy your Xbox 1 games now the Scorpio isn’t coming til the end of 2017, and it surely isn’t for everyone.

    • Mark

      Exactly. If ur a console gamer, u need an X1 to play Gears 4 this year!

  • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

    First Microsoft goes, then Sony fails with their underpowered pee-o upgrade.

    Consolecuck suicide watch begins now.

    • d0x360

      And yet still ms wins you raving lunatic

  • lagann

    I dont find myself agreeing with you Pramath a lot…but this is one of the few times i do.

    Hardware just does not make money. Nintendo is the only one who makes money out of hardware and to do so, they are always at least a gen or so behind the curb.

    You’ll have to have the iq of cavemen to think MS is exiting the hardware market. They are merely de-emphesizing the need of their console if you want to play their games.

    They want Xbox to be a service like Steam….just that this time, they have the living room market and not the pc. Steam is a reversed sitution which they tried to fix with Steam machines but failed. Ms will always have a console for consumers to buy (in this instance, 2) unless the market suddenly shifts where having a pc in the living room is the prefered method of playing.

    You like consoles and want to play xbox games? Then buy xbox console. You want only pc and want to play xbox games? Then buy the game through xbox pc store. What’s that? You like to game on consoles and also pc? We have cross play and play anywhere for you. THAT’S the ecosystem ms wants to create. Leveraging console users and pc users and combining them into one big “family”. If people dont like it, thats fine. But to make up lies and say ms is leaving the console market is ridiculous.

    • d0x360

      Microsoft makes.money off every modern GPU sold. That means on PC that means wiiu that means ps4.

      They aren’t leaving any space until they dominate it. Especially not this one as the Xbox eco system is a test bench for many technologies that benefit PC gaming and productivity software

  • d0x360

    Is this guy a moron? They talked about project Scorpio. That means they will be involved until AT least 2020 at bare min.

    Sometimes these analysts are absolute morons.

    Consider amd is releasing a 5flop GPU that’s vr ready and 4k ready in weeks for $200 now is the time to get into PC gaming if you were worried about cost

    • Mark

      I had the same questions reading this guy’s analysis….what is he spewing? If ur a console gamer (of which there’s no shortage of) then you’ll need an Xbox to play Gears 4 this year! And I wonder why Xbox S is selling well? Well it’s got 4k BluRay for cheap, and does HDR for better colors in games….c’mon what are these guys saying?

    • d0x360

      People love hating on Microsoft. Its been the cool thing in the PC space for 20 years and now its cool in the console space because Don’t Mattrick did some stupid things which Phil Spencer fixed and on top of that has done nothing but great things.

      Aside from the slightly worse visuals the Xbox does everything better. I can only assume its a jealously thing.

    • Doggystyle

      Phil Spencer didn’t fix diddly squat that strong competition from Sony didn’t force him to fix. Phil was there when Mattrick was still there, and as much as you love to keep his sack lathered with spit, he is no better than Mattrick. Get a freaking clue, you toddler.
      https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/07tBh.Qh9A7L8_55_deVqA–/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz01MzQ-/http://filmgarb.com/wp-content/uploads/tv-blues_clues-steve-steve_burns-tops-all_episodes-green_rugby_shirt.jpg.cf.jpg

    • d0x360

      If you say so business genius

  • freelancepimp .

    How many 1st3rd party AAA exclusives ( as in XboxWindows 10) did
    Microsoft reveal at E3? Pretty much every AAA exclusive Microsoft
    mentioned at E3 was revealed at E3 2015 or before. There’s nothing to
    say that other AAA exclusives are in development. We do know that indy
    style arcade games are in development. The future of xbox is steam/apple
    tv machine. Microsoft gave up a long time ago; no more 3rd party deals,
    no more exclusive content, and now no more 1st party AAA titles. They
    will finish what was already in development. Microsoft came in and
    started a pi $ $ ing contest with Sony that drove up the price of
    development and saw the closure of many great game studios now they are
    slowly slithering out.
    MS owns the gaming media with NDA’s and no
    one will speak against them. No one mentioned the lack of crackdown and
    new AAA exclusive titles at E3. Very few will talk about the atrocious
    sales of exclusives like Quantam Break, Sunset Overdrive and others. No
    one talks about how weak 3rd party AAA games are performing on the
    system. I am sure major developers already know because that’s why they
    are kissing up to Nintendo all of a sudden talking about how great the NX
    is going to be. They see the Xbox as a sinking ship and don’t want to
    Sony to have all of the leverage when it comes to consoles.

    • Doggystyle

      Well said, and a very good read. Thanks.

    • Joe_HTH

      “saw the closure of many great game studios”

      LOL! Sony has closed just as many studios you idiot. Many of Sony’s first party didn’t sell either. Your entire post is sheer idiocy, which is typical of a Sony shill.

  • Barry Harden

    The XBone S won’t have any added power to do native 1080p@60fps gaming. All it can do is “upscale” gaming to 4K which we all know isn’t going to cut it compared to native 4K.

    If Xbox starts treating console releases like its Surface tablets, I can honestly say it’ll be the end of the gaming division.

    • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

      ALong with Sony’s pathetic claims they are competing with PC gaming. It’s over for Sony and Microsoft. They will be destroyed and the two most cancerous gaming fanbases are gone for good.

      Which will only improve the industry in quality.

    • Joe_HTH

      Other than the Scorpio, what console can run games in native 4K? I’m also not sure what Surface tablets have to do with console gaming. It’s a ridiculous comparison. Two entirely different products genius.

    • Barry Harden

      What console run games in native 4K? The Scorpio and the next PS5.
      I can assure you Sony will make the PS5 do better 4K gaming instead of a half-ass measure from the Scorpio.

      As for the tablet reference, I was inferring the constant yearly releases Micro$oft does with its Surface products. New consoles every 2 yrs will be ridiculous.

  • S-JAY

    This article is complete BS and waste of time…Microsoft is not fool enough to quit XBOX business after announcing two new XBOXes..

    Lame article with lame thoughts

  • Mr Xrat

    Xgimps lashing out again. Beautiful.

    • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

      Sonycucks crying and screaming as they are made irrelevant along with the xcucks in one week. Classic

      Nintendo won with one game. Sony will be destroyed trying to compete with PC. Better get that rope ready, Ruggarell 🙂

    • IDLIKESOMEPOUNDCAKE

      Somebody photoshopped Playstation logos on a Photo of Ziare

    • PCMR Truth™ #BlockMeIWin

      Sonycucks are just as stupid as Zaire.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUT1mVQ5QBE

    • IDLIKESOMEPOUNDCAKE

      You sir are an idiot.

  • Superproherohunter Hunter

    what a retarded comment think before you speak do you even know why most of the people bought wii u they bought it for exclusives and weren’t you the one talking about exclusive does not matter

    • Mark

      Oh wow, 13 million in 4 years! Mind u the WiiU had a year unto itself, dam. Is that the worst Ninty system sold? It’s gotta be up there. So no, exclusives don’t matter, compared to a more powerful system, with LESS exclusives mind u, but that has multiplat support! MORE POWER, MORE MULTIPLATS, LESS EXCLUSIVES, YET XBOX ONE WINS! Thx for making my point smart guy

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      Fool wii u had nothing over Microsoft and still managed to sell all most same amount of consoles only reason wii u is still alive because of exclusives and just go and watch how good response legend of Zelda got so many people want to buy nx for legend of zelda.

      wii u 13 million sold in 4 years so what Microsoft 20 million in 3 years even though it is 4 to 5 time more powerful and have so many more games than still only 20 million Xbox one are sold compare to wii u, ps3 also only survived because of great exclusives almost all game ran better on Microsoft device but still ps3 managed to out sell the Xbox 360 because of great exclusives so exclusives does matter

    • Mark

      The WiiU sold at a rate of around 3 million a year….wow. Xbox around 7m/year. Not even close. WiiU It’s a failure of a console, even Ninty acknowledged this. I mean what choo expect, they’d sell 2 million consoles? Somebody’s gonna buy the thing! Ahaha, dam bruh. It’s a colossal fail comin off the back of a system that sold 100million! What u really mean to say is, SOME, more like FEW, exclusives actually sell systems. Uggh nevermind.

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      if fail console can survive because of exclusive that does means that exclusive matters

    • Mark

      My original comment never stated exclusives dont matter dude. My point was/is, that power, and multiplats are what’s selling the X1 & PS4, then u have ur few triple A exclusives per year that will sell systems somewhat, but not alot. Go find me NPD results for Sony in May 2016 (UC4 launch) then look at NPD for September 2014 (Destiny PS4), then you’ll see who sells more consoles those months…I’ll be waiting

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      what about this many pure big budget exclusives?

      1 The Last Guardian
      2 Prey
      3 Silent Hills
      4 Horizon Zero Dawn
      5 Detroit: Become Human
      6 Days Gone
      7 Spider-Man
      8 God of War
      9 Death Stranding
      10 Persona 5
      11 Yakuza
      12 Gravity Rush 2
      13 final fantasy 7 remakes
      14 Last of Us 2
      15 Resident Evil 7
      16 Deep Down
      17 MatterFall
      18 Crash Bandicoot
      19 wild
      20 Nioh
      and more

    • Mark

      Here’s NPD for May 2016 compared to May 2015. Although UC4 launched in May, PS4 sales were down year over year, so no, UC4 didn’t move many PS4s dude. What u have to say now? Probably more damage control

      http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/06/10/may-2016-npd-ps4-outsells-xbox-one-uncharted-4-win-the-month/

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      i will just ask you one question after seeing this many exclusives don’t you want to buy ps4 plus ps4 have everything right compare to microsoft so that is the reason exclusive does not matter for ps4

    • Mark

      No I’m not into Sony’s games. I’m a Halo, Gears & Forza guy. Even Sunset Drive and Quantum Break were up my alley. Uncharted and those games aren’t my style of taste.

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      reason Microsoft exclusive are not working because they suck

      metacritic ::::::::::::::::User Score

      Halo 5::::::::::::::::::::::::: 6.5
      Quantum Break ::::::::: 6.7
      Dead Rising 3::::::::::::: 6.8
      Sunset Overdrive:::::::::7.6
      Forza: i don’t even consider Forza a game

      All of your games are garbage plus we can buy this on pc.

    • Mark

      Wow man ur posting user scores?! Dam. Those things are as credible as me running for president against Trump lol. *Sigh. Anyway u got PC good for u. But if u wanna use Metacritic, ok I will. Destiny is OFFICIALLY rated as a 77 score, yet it sold over 10m copies! Now lemme ask you, does that means Destiny sucks, or not?

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      Destiny sold that much because of fake hype plus it is multi-platform game and first person shooters mostly sell well because of retarded kids so what are you trying to prove here, Uncharted Series Sold over 21 Million Units Worldwide and this does not even include uncharted 4

    • Mark

      Stop using ratings dude, it proves nothing. PS4 is in lead because they made right choices (price, power, etc). And u still won’t answer why X1 far outsells WiiU! Now answer me! Lol

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      lol you are too dumb to understand the answer reason wii u is behind Microsoft because they don’t have any multiplats.

    • Superproherohunter Hunter

      sorry dude we were fighting for no reason you already said exclusive matters and i was the dumb one who did not read the comment very properly and yes exclusive plus powerful box will always win.

    • Mark

      Yes exclusives matter, but they don’t move consoles at a high rate that power & multiplats do…

    • Mark

      “Because they have no multiplats”, ding ding ding ding!

    • Mark

      Also yes, the reason PS4 is ahead because Sony avoided Microsoft’s mistakes. But, the reason it absolutely DESTROYS WiiU sales stems from its power, the ability to run the best multiplats, and then exclusives and PS+. Let’s ignore Sony tho. You tell me, why is the X1 far outpacing WiiU sales with less exclusives?

    • Mark

      Dude the WiiU sold HORRIBLE. The exclusives sold well, but it barely moved systems. The rate of WiiUs sold is, wait for it….3m per year! Wow, and this is your evidence of why exclusives matter so much….how can I more intelligently argue with u? I cant

    • Joe_HTH

      You’re a moron. If you suck on Sony’s tool a little bit harder, you might get something to come out.

    • Mark

      Also, show me where I said EXCLUSIVES DONT MATTER. I said power & multiplats are the MAIN factors in determining consoles this gen….read my comment & dont assume next time

  • Joe_HTH

    LOL! Analysts are a dime a dozen and they’re almost always useless and stupid. DFC is the worst of the bunch. If the Scorpio kills interest in the Xbox One S, doesn’t the Neo essentially kill interest in the PS4. The Xbox One S is also number one on Amazon, whatever that’s worth.

    You don’t announce two brand new consoles if you’re getting out of the console market. This is dime store level analysis.


 

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