Phil Spencer Clarifies Previous Statements About Story Based Single Player Games, “We Are Not Ditching Them”

Also, Spencer apparently loves Horizon: Zero Dawn.

Posted By | On 30th, Apr. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Shubhankar2508


Xbox boss Phil Spencer recently took to Twitter with a barrage of tweets and spoke about a number of things. One of the things he spoke about was his earlier comments about single player titles. He went on to clarify them, saying that Microsoft and Xbox aren’t going to abandon single player experiences, and while doing so, he showed a surprising amoung of appreciation for the recently released Horizon: Zero Dawn.

While doing so, Spencer said that even competitors in the market are mostly on good terms with each other, mentioning that he was sent an early copy of Horizon: Zero Dawn. He then went on to joke that maybe he will be sporting a Horizon t-shirt at E3 this year.

Spencer was also asked about the Xbox Scorpio and whether Microsoft would be talking about it before E3, to which he replied that that was not likely, and that Microsoft are currently focusing on getting games ready for the system right now. You can read all his tweets below. Stay tuned to GamingBolt for more updates.

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  • People who don’t read are idiots. They see a headline and jump to conclusions, so f’ing annoying…

    • crazy_black_man-

      People who believe everything Phil Spencer tweets are ‘super’ idiots. They see a tweet and immediately believe what they’re reading, so f’ing gullible and stupid…

    • Luke Skywalker

      then it’s hilarious that you commented on his tweet about wearing a hzd t-shirt to E3. clearly it was a sarcastic remark.

    • crazy_black_man-

      No. Clearly it was a shout out to Sony. Maybe he’s getting his resume together and trying to find a mailroom job at Sony so he can work his way up to something better. Sony sent him a copy of Horizon Zero Dawn to show him what varying types of games that gamers really want to have in their library, and of course to show off their outstanding accomplishment with the game. Xbox is a one trick pony, and that one trick is getting old fast with the Xbox community.

    • Dougdec92

      Well Sony need him a clothing line….say:
      Gow jeans
      Uc4 leather coats
      Gravity rush kicks
      Nioh boxers
      Days gone branded Scorpio
      Tlou 2 decorated Xbox E3 2017 press conference

      Someone help me out with them “GAMES” I’m playing….lol, I see what I did there….(only sonies will get this…)

    • Luke Skywalker

      a lot of them seems to have reading comprehension issues

    • Rasta4

      They are Sony licking mental cases…this is what they do.

  • crazy_black_man-

    LOL, Phil is now clarifying his statement after commentators on GamingBolt, and other less popular sites that posted the story, called him out on it, and then proceeded to accurately label his Xbox fan base as gullible idiots.

    In other words, outside of Phil backtracking on his statements, ONCE AGAIN, not a damn thing has changed in his overall strategy. This is getting embarrassing. The Scorpio remains a 3rd party multiplayer IP dependent console, with no exciting original exclusive single player content for fans who want the quality and diversity of content found on the PS4.

    Phil wearing a Horizon Zero Dawn t-shirt at E3 would be the most laughable show of defeat and further admission of his own incompetency, as the head of the Xbox division, and would be welcomed by many.

    • Luke Skywalker

      its a stupid thing when people takes your words out of context. I’m sure Phil can attest to that.

    • Nah bro.. he said it.. so he should stick to his words. U can’t trust philly dilly..

    • Luke Skywalker

      “he said it”…what did he say exactly?
      that single player games doesn’t have the impact it used to have, which people somehow misconstrued as him saying no more single player games on Xbox?

      personally i’m not a single player kind of person. I always jump in the multiplayer side of the games I buy and i’m usually extremely hesitant to buy a game that doesn’t feature some sort of multiplayer aspect to it. but it is absurd when a person makes a certain statement and others run off with it straight into left field.
      it’s like if Phil says he likes running, people will twist that into saying Phil said he doesn’t walk at all.

    • Yeah I know.. but why did he say all that stuff about HZD and other SP games about them not really being the games people want?

      People want SP games, SP games have always existed since the beginning of videogames. He is trying to fix something that isn’t broken.

    • XterminatorbotMK1

      His claims that single player games aren’t as impactful was pulled straight from his ***hole and was a clear attempt at downplaying Zelda and Horizon.

      He clearly wants always online games as a service. He is just trying to put out the PR fire because he received backlash for his propaganda.

    • I love SP games, sometimes i just want to play a game offline cuss then you don’t have lag and other people trying to invade your game like in Dark Souls 3 lol

    • crazy_black_man-

      Agreed, as well as I enjoy the storytelling and sense of discovery. This is what gaming has always been about and this was a thing long before competitive multiplayer was a thing.

    • Gamez Rule

      Been playing SP game today called *Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor* which was bought on sale from PS-Store. Although old it’s a great game IMO

    • crazy_black_man-

      Yep. I enjoyed it too.

    • ‘Shadow of Mordor’ sounds like it’s related to Lord of the Rings or something.. it must be interesting. Can you battle orcs? Is it like the Witcher?

      I got ‘Dragon Age Inquisition’ a week ago but haven’t gotten around to play it on the PS4 Pro, i got so many games that i bought but havent played yet.

      Sometimes i just buy a game because its heavily discounted even though i dont plan on playing it. But at least i got it cheap 🙂

    • Gamez Rule
    • Thnx gonna check it out

    • Dougdec92

      One great game too

    • Yeah some games are horrible in MP mode.. and what if you dont have an internet connection?

      Multiplayer shouldn’t be such a big deal nowadays, i don’t know why they are trying to emphasize this, probably Phil Spencer has some ulterior motives.. my theory is:

      1) they either want to suck people into their “digital game space” like with the 2013 DRM issues.

      Or..

      2) it’s an excuse he’s making for not having 1st party SP blockbuster games for the Scorpio.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Both. But you hit the nail on the head with number 1. They want to eventually diminish physical game sales. They want you to lease all of your digital content from them with no option to resell that content. I think that has always been the plan. And honestly, Sony may ultimately want the exact same thing but they choose to go about it in a totally different way.

    • I mean i wouldn’t mind it if CD/DVD based games dissapear as long as a USB stick or a cartridge takes it’s place.

      My PS4 Pro 1TB hard drive is already full of games :(.. it’s getting expensive having to buy a new HD to put my games on. But i have no choice..

    • Holeybartender

      The problem with digital is that they refuse to include the games license with the games and lock your system from playing the games without it.

      No,disc-based games shouldn’t disappear but should be updated. There are 100 gigs on a 4k UHD disc and that is plenty of space for a game plus more on them. They need to make the PS5 and Xbox Two play games off of 4k Bluray discs and that would definitely free up a ton of space on the hard drive.

    • Mark

      He never said “People don’t really want SP games”, he’s essentially saying MP took over…..but that doesn’t mean SP games are gonna DIE, does it? The media is goin nuts over this, as they’ve been on Phil’s nuts the entire gen lol

    • Dougdec92

      He does show them a tad too much, don’t you think?, heeeees nuts!!

    • LDS

      You can have all the critics on other games you want EXCEPT when you are the big face of the industry especially out on public.

      He could’ve said the same thing without mentioning other games and it would be fine. But him using zelda and HZD as an example and saying it doesn’t have as much impact? was a bad move.

      You can say “Nah, that’s not what I meant” later all you want but what you did is pulling down other people’s achievement consequentially. It’s shame that Phil and his followers don’t realize that.

    • Luke Skywalker

      as I’ve said you people hear and read what you want to and take things out of context to suit your way of thinking.
      this is what the guy actually said:

      “The audience for those big story-driven games… I won’t say it isn’t as large, but they’re not as consistent. You’ll have things like Zelda or Horizon Zero Dawn that’ll come out, and they’ll do really well, but they don’t have the same impact that they used to have because the big service-based games are capturing such a large amount of the audience. Sony’s first-party studios do a lot of these games, and they’re good at them, but outside of that, it’s difficult”

      clearly he’s saying that Nintendo with Zelda and sony with horizon are doing a great job at SP/story driven games but other than that it’s pretty difficult to do. It’s not a knock it’s a compliment. outside of horizon and Zelda tell me 2 other SP games that have done really well this gen without any multiplayer aspect to them.

      which goes back to the point that SP/story driven games are not as plenty, they don’t have as great an impact as they use it. even the charts can tell you that as chart-trac and npd group’s weekly and monthly reports can tell you that multiplayer and service based games are plenty, have great impact and staying power on the charts.
      the games with the most impact and staying power today are service based multiplayer games. GTA5, Destiny, Overwatch, Minecraft, Halo 5, Rocket League, Fifa, Cod, Battlefield, Horizon 3, Ghost recon etc these are the types of games that dominate the charts. Sure Zelda and Horizon zero Dawn is there too (same as Phil said) but how many other single player games are there with great impact? not many in the top 40 or even 100.

      what Phil said is not wrong and he wasn’t knocking anyone. you guys are just quick to have a knee jerk reaction to anything that raises your eye brows.
      you guys need to get your heads out the wrong place and look at the data and have an objective view of the trends, the curves and the impacts.

    • LDS

      RofTR (although MS kinda screwed it up by making it timed exclusive)
      Resident Evil 7
      Final Fantasy 15
      Witcher 3
      Fallout 4
      Darksouls, BloodBorn (a few multiplayer aspect but still I consider them single)
      And there’s bunch more I can list

    • Gamez Rule

      Agreed

      “Games like Grand Theft Auto V made over a billion dollars in a few days
      without the need for an online mode (which was released weeks
      later).

      Recent single-player only games like Metro: Last Light, Dishonored, and BioShock Infinite
      have also achieved impressive sales numbers, and none of those games
      feature a multiplayer mode.

      Games like Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
      and The Last of Us have also sold well, and these games were advertised
      with the single-player campaign in mind. The multiplayer was simply
      filler”

    • Luke Skywalker

      GTA5 is still on the charts because of its online multiplayer and when it was released a lot of buyers were looking forward to the MP you can see that in the past articles and their comment section even over there on neogaf.
      anyway, the point is that in comparison to MP type games SP does not have that great of an impact like they used to.

      the games you mentioned did not do really well, they did ok yes, but that’s about it.
      also AC black flags and TLU were advertised with their MP in tow. i’m sure those trailers can be pulled up online easily. i’m not even sure why you’re trying to use those as examples, is it that you’ve ran out of games that did very well in sales and longevity to use as examples, which goes back to the point that SP great SP games are not as many or impactful like they used it, hmm??

    • Holeybartender

      GTA always stayed on the charts long before GTA online was a thing.

    • Mark

      So true. People hate Phil lmao

    • Luke Skywalker

      and where are those games right now? are they on the charts still? compare those to multiplayer games and you’ll see the point that service based games have a much greater impact on the industry now. it’s not that SP games are not important it’s that they don’t have the impact they use to have in the past. I’m not sure why that point is so hard to understand by you guys.

    • Mark

      Out of that list, only 3 sold big, prolly more than 6m…the rest? Not so much. The point is, that single player DOMINATED sales back in PS2 OG XBOX era. But toward the end of last gen, multiplayer started rolling big

    • LDS

      And FYI, Zelda is not story driven game at all like Phil said and you would know if you have played it. It only proves that he never played the game and yet he still downplayed the game lol

    • Luke Skywalker

      as I’ve said and showed above he didn’t downplay the game at all and ive you had watched or read the interview wthout your rose colored glasses then you’d see it too. he said games like Zelda and horizon do really but they don’t have the impact they used to have because service based games have captured a lot of the audience. and he wasn’t wrong in saying that. he’s saying that games like Zelda and HZD are the exception not the rule, basically that there will be great SP games that comes out because MP games have changed the whole dynamic of the industry.
      he said:

      “As an industry, I want to make sure both narrative-driven single-player games and service-based games have the opportunity to succeed. I think that’s critical for us”

      MP games have skewed the landscape but he wants them to have equal footing where both can be successful.

    • LDS

      Yeah, and if you take off your own biased glasses, you would know that him saying that pretty much sums up the conclusion that there won’t be a decent single player games from MS first party when its deemed there is no business chance. And somehow people don’t understand why Sony has bigger fanbase worldwide and sells more.

    • Luke Skywalker

      I don’t have any glasses on bro, I have the ability to be objective, I have the ability to look at the data that’s available to everyone and I have the ability to see what the current gaming trends are.

      the man said MP games have taken over and because of that SP games doesn’t have the impact they used to have in the past, however, there are few SP games that have done really well and that sony are experts in that field. the man says he wants to give developers the opportunity to build the kinds of games they want to build and be successful whether it be an SP or an MP type game
      the man said:

      “As an industry, I want to make sure both narrative-driven single-player games and service-based games have the opportunity to succeed. I think that’s critical for us”

    • Rasta4

      55 million Xbox live users 22 million PSN. How can this be.

      Take your glasses off son.

    • Mark

      1) Phil debunked that idea of “no more single player on Xbox” on Twitter. Pramath got u guys losing ur mind over Phil’s words, it ain’t that darn serious man

    • Mark

      He didn’t pull them down. He was speaking of their rarity. He simply said story based single player games don’t perform as CONSISTENTLY as before. Pramath took that sh*t outta context for real ahah

    • Dougdec92

      Lol, Philly dilly

    • That post dissapeared i cant see it :/

    • crazy_black_man-

      When one in his position finally learns to speak with clarity the first time around, no one will ever be able to take his words out of context. He said exactly what he meant, and now he’s on Twitter trying to backtrack AGAIN. You guys want to believe in him so badly and yet he’s constantly insulting your intelligence, or then again, maybe not. The Xbox community is the most gullible gaming community there is.

    • “The Xbox community is the most gullible gaming community there is.”

      That’s why Phil is gonna milk his Xbox fanbase bone dry. He’s gonna make them pay with microtransactions for content in neverending MP games.

    • crazy_black_man-

      They NEVER hold him accountable. Its people like us who benefit them the most in affecting change, but they would never see it that way.

  • kee1haul

    He has to clarify every day because every two bit writer needs something to write about.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. That is hilarious.

      He has to clarify because he’s being held accountable by people that aren’t part of his fanbase, people he would like to come over to Xbox, but probably never will because of his lack of transparency and an unwillingness to acknowledge and admit what his true motives are for the future of the console brand. Less diversity and more focus on just being a service strictly to online multiplayer gaming. You poor helpless fools are sad.

    • If it was up to MS we wouldn’t even have VR on gaming console.

      Thank god Sony exists.. otherwise we wouldn’t have so many awesome things like PSVR amongst others.

    • Rasta4

      More like because they get plenty of clicks from the mob of delusional Sony mental cases (which are here).. it’s pretty comical. Weirdos spend more time in Xbox articles than playing their beloved single player games.

    • kee1haul

      That mob is really only one guy with 25 different personas. Xrat.

  • LDS

    Of course Xbox won’t ditch SP games. It’s only that we won’t see decent SP games from 1st parties anymore and most will be a third party. In fact, how many 1st parties are left on xbox side after MS slashing them out? Lol

  • XterminatorbotMK1

    Everyone who read the interview can see that he clearly wants a “games as a service” online only model.

    And everyone can see Phil Spencer was downplaying Zelda and Horizon. He is moving the goal post towards multiplayer because his own platform lacks games.

    He got called out and now he is trying to put out the PR fire.

    • Luke Skywalker

      “As an industry, I want to make sure both narrative-driven single-player games and service-based games have the opportunity to succeed. I think that’s critical for us”

    • XterminatorbotMK1

      Notice how he didn’t say “offline single player” games. Now read my comment again.

      “Everyone who read the interview can clearly see he wants an online only model and “games as a service.”

      The entire interview was about creating a “Netflix of games” and “Games as a service” by using Azure.

      Then in the middle of the interview he brings up Zelda and Horizon and claims they aren’t as impactful because games as a service is so popular.

      Now he is backtracking and claiming that he wants to make single player games but again notice his wording. No where did he say he wants to make offline single player.

      He is being vague and contradictory. He is trying to put out a PR fire after that incredibly idiotic attempt to downplay Zelda and Horizon.

    • Dan Snow

      it seems that you haven’t undersatnd all the principle of “Netflix of games”. He was also refering to “episodic game” as the telltate game where each episode could be playable by posseding the game pass subscription. They want to reinvest money used by paying the subsciption in oder to make more game sa netflix and amazon with their series.

      Moreover he haven’t said that sp games are dead but that the industry is evolving to a personnal player driven story as with all new ubisoft game (the division, for honor, ghost recon wildland etc…) or destiny. He also said that this kind of games are pissible because nowaday games are seen as a service with regular (free and paid) expansion. These expansion can be accessible with the xbox game pass according to him.

      Zelda and HZ sales are impressive but compare to game as service the playability is limited people, spend must time with service based game than with pure sp game

    • Hvd

      it will fail it seams phil doesnt understand what console gamers want.single player games.

      if they try do do a game like hitman episodic game online only it will fail hard.

    • Rasta4

      You and I both know this freak belongs in a mental institution.

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    • Tomaterrrx

      When did he say SP games are dying?

    • XterminatorbotMK1

      Try reading.

      “games like Zelda and Horizon aren’t as impactful as they were before. They’re becoming more rare.”

      Then he starts talking about feeding everyone single player piece meal through subscriptions.

      He is full of it. Most of the top selling games this generation either have offline single player with tacked on multiplayer or they’re strictly single player.

    • Tomaterrrx

      Answer the question please

    • Hvd

      its one reason im buying a ps5 next gen he wants to turn the xobx in to a pc.i will be out next gen and get a ps5.

      single player games is what made console gaming.

  • heima

    There was nothing to clarify, people like to make a fuss about nothing. He clearly stated the obvious situation about gaming, but even the obvious causes outrage amongst the stupids.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Meanwhile over at that other heavily moderated site where that extremely sensitive, arrogant, and egotistical senior editor is NEVER wrong about anything,…integrity my a ss.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26facd614ae3dca3e04460896c353102a15569976f3561b50e7939d58a4f73d3.png

    • heima

      And your point is?

    • crazy_black_man-

      You don’t see it? Take another look at it.

    • heima

      I’m smart enough to ignore your pathetic trolling from now on, as Nelva has done banning you and your attempts to mark his territory with your foul comments, like un-neutered cats do with their marks.
      Feel free to go on in here, since Pramath seems ok with people like you.

    • crazy_black_man-

      You mean people like you who come to his articles just to go back to Dualshockers and talk sh it about how GamingBolt is writing their articles? Why are you here again?

    • Rasta4

      Yup.

    • Mark

      Yep. I’d like to see where Phil backtracked….the media is one helluva drug

  • Dougdec92

    Jekyll and Hyde at it again….so bad at games he can’t talk about games right…*sigh* .

  • Holeybartender

    See Phil? Clearly single player games still have the same impact they once had. They have enough demand left over to demand you to take back your bull**** statement.

    • crazy_black_man-

      BOOM!!!

  • Mr Xrat

    Another embarrassing backtrack, sorry, “clarification” by Spencer because he has nothing to deliver than words to stop Xgimps falling out of the cult.

    You’ll get sops like ReCore and Sunset Overdrive once in a while, but for the most part they’ll be looking to milk those online subscriptions and microtransactions. Bend over, Xgimps!

  • Rasta4

    Poor Sony licking drama queens tried to twist his words again. One and done single player games sell a little at first then pretty much drop off the charts. No one ever said they aren’t making or supporting single player games. Quite the opposite..as he said XB Game Pass is designed to help SP games do better, live longer.

    multiplayer and service games have larger and more consistent player bases. That is FACT !

    • Mark

      Yezzir

  • Dee

    Lol Xbox Scorpio isn’t even out yet. This “Rasta4” guy is super delusional right now.

    • Rasta4

      Really …We don’t know the features that digital foundry reported on ? You sure ?
      Many are Xbox features…remember Xbox one S upscales to 4k like the “pro” except it has a 4k bluray…Lol

    • Dee

      Lol wow. What do you mean if I’m sure? You have a Scorpio in your house right now? Didn’t think so.
      Find it weird that you’re geeked out about Xbox specs but its been the least powerful box this gen to this day.
      I’m sure you were on of those Xbox fanboys that were saying “power doesn’t matter” til the rumors of Scorpio dropped.
      55 mil XBL but 28 mil XBO sold. hmmm. Bending numbers. Lol

    • Rasta4

      Awww
      This ones mad…you sure that the digital foundry confirmed specs are lies ?
      Lolol.

      Xbox one S upscales all games to 4k…PS4 does not. In addition it has a 4k bluray. PS4 is inferior to XB1s

      The benefits of owning the largest PC OS in the world in addition to a console platform.
      I would agree 60million consoles “shipped” is likely bending numbers. With only 22 million PSN accounts. Just don’t add up.

    • Dee

      Lol. Who said Digital Foundry lied? I guess all these rumors makes feel good about your existence. Lmao.

    • My Sony TV upscales everything to 4k

    • Rhubarb for my Pony

      Bwahahah
      Look up Mr 4k upscaler.
      Not compared to the XB1S it doesn’t.

    • Rastaaaaa4

  • MickaelSuarez

    “55 million XBL vs 22 million on PSN.”
    1st: 52 millions according to VB
    2nd: 22 millions PS+ users, Online is free on PS3 while Xbox users have to pay for more than 10 years.
    3rd: “That growth likely came in part from Microsoft implementing Xbox Live into the Windows 10, console, and mobile versions of Minecraft.”

    “$1.9 billion cleared by the Xbox division for this quarter alone.”
    From VB
    “The company reported the results of its fiscal Q3 today, and it revealed that it generated $1.928 billion in revenues from Xbox and Windows 10 gaming.”

    “Sony reporting shipped numbers to you mental twits now…for a reason.”
    Yep, in financial report they announce shipped numbers and not sell through.

    So because it seems really important for you, the Sony’s Games and Network result for the last fiscal year is around $14.8 billion so an average of $3.7 billion per quarter.

  • SteveG

    Little mental rat is mad.
    PSnow and boooost mode will save you LOL

  • I love peer pressure 😉

  • Lol why did u change your nick Rasta4? 😀

    • Rhubarb for my Pony

      Custom made for a pony licker named rhubarb.

      Wat up brah
      You like Rasta eh?

  • Hvd

    phil console gamers dont like esports we like single player games.the more you speak about where you want to take xbox im getting a ps5 next gen.

    single player story games made console gaming what it is to day.if you want to kill the xobx turin it in to a pc and focus on esport.xbox will die.


 

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