PS4 CPU Won’t Become Obsolete Soon, The Console With The Best Games Will Last The Distance: Dev

Grande Games’ André Noller believes its software that sells hardware.

Posted By | On 15th, Mar. 2014 Under News


Commander Cherry's Puzzled Journey

Grande Games’ André Noller has a few thoughts on the PlayStation 4. In fact, while most other developers are busy porting their PC games to Sony’s next gen console or pushing the hardware’s limits, the man who helped bring out Commander Cherry’s Puzzled Journey has other thoughts.

GamingBolt recently got in touch with Noller about the PS4’s hardware and whether it will be obsolete in the coming years, especially given how modern CPUs are much more powerful.

Noller responded: “This is a question that comes up every console generation. When you put your hardware in the box you can’t update it. So modern CPUs will become more powerful over time, as they’ve done every generation before. But when I look at late PS3 games like The Last of Us, I am not worried that we are not going to see some beautiful games on the PS4.

“Though it’ll be interesting to see how Valves concept with their Steamboxes will work out in contrast.

As a bonus question we also asked him which next gen console will go the distance this generation, Noller said, “The one with the best games in terms of quality and quantity (looking at the Wii U :P), because software sells hardware. If you’d go for the tech alone, you’d probably be a proud owner of a powerful gaming PC.”

What are your thoughts? Let us know below.


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  • Michael Clanton

    both the ps4 and xbox one are selling faster then there prior gen systems at comparible times…i dont see either not going the distance…just like the ps3 xbox 360 i see both systems going the distance.
    The wii u on the other hand, 3rd parties have basically forsaken it.

    • Michael Norris

      It is nice to see both consoles selling well.

  • Psionicinversion

    Nothing in the PS4 will become obsolete because you cant change it, in terms of CPU and GPU in PC’s it was outdated about 2 years before the consoles were even released maybe even 3 years in terms of CPU power was beaten prolly 4 years ago definitively with the i7/5 line of processors from intel. Im thinking gaming is already moving way past what the consoles can achieve becuase the ports are of undeniably lower quality. Watch_dogs, new game looks best on PC and multiplats will always be better but ps4 does does look good even if it has to employ tricks and “excuses” why it cant do everything.

    Only downside is cus there stuck PC multiplat games cant go mental on the PC gfx cus the consoles will look like trash compared to the PC and thatll generate bad publicity, bad sales etc when the differences are directly compared so this is why most PC gamers are “elitist” cus we get sick of buying these rigs just to play something 1080p max details at 200 fps, consoles are 1080p mid-high details 30- max 60 (pending on game). But at the moment decent 1440p monitors are still to expensive for main market at £300+ may as well just go nuts and spend like £700 on an asus 4K with 1ms repsonse time.

    PC is moving to 4K and with nvidia pushing for 4K watchdogs is 4K next CoD is 4K, star citizen is 4K etc only problem with that is it requires a big investment to game at 4k talking about £1500 atm for 2x high end cards and a monitor to push max detail and 60fps at least for star citizen dunno how graphically heavy the other 2 are (can get some cheap and nasty ones but there only 30hz which is out of the question for gaming). People are like lol have to spend £1500 on PC PC we got all this for £350. But they dont see its us gamers investing in this hardware and wanting the best graphics you can get thats funding the development of these GPU’s which can push this detail. Without the PC you wouldnt have the GPU’s in consoles today. sometimes consoels give advances in architecture to help the GPU’s to but with 6-8 year cycles someone has to be funding the cycle and wanting better gfx so by the time the next consoles come round they might be able to game at 4K for a much lower price point cus us PC gamers are funding the advances.and those advances and power achievements get funneled down to lower priced products.

    • Axe99

      Don’t forget the first-gen multiplats are developed on PC first, then ported to console. There’s a huge difference between the quality of BF4 and KZ:SF on PS4 – BF4 looks like anything else I could run on my GTX 660/i7 PC – KZ:SF is a step above.

      On the by, while PC gamers deffo fund the development of new hardware (at least at the current rate), don’t forget it’s console gamers that fund the development of the games that are played on them – Star Citizen is the _only_ upcoming PC game that’s pushing hardware, everything else is being developed off the back of console game sales. If PC gamers were willing to pay the cost, devs could go ‘mental’ as you say on development, but the PC gamer market is a combination of not big enough, and not willing enough to spend full price on games.

    • Psionicinversion

      Not entirely true for first party yes, but for multiplats its a combination of deals from publishers and exclusivity etc. Star Citizen is pushing not only hardware but AI (if you watched the newest wingmans hangar its insane at the AI there trying to achieve) along side storyline, combat not only space but ground, but ground is alot more tactical cus of the death mechanic in game you cant go running in like a nutcase like in BF4 or COD or KZ cus of that cus you wont respawn… youll be dead then stuff gets passed to a relative etc. so its more in terms of real life thats they want. architecture spanning about 700 years, and tbh that type of game will never be possible ESPECIALLY if EA backed it. I think its getting so much love is primarily because of Chris Roberts from his wing commander games and from all the vids the absolute attention to detail is crazy and no corner is cut. Ive already got £700 saved up for the best single gfx card on the market + a new PSU cus by then the old will be like 4 years old and want a fresh one to power it. I dont think any other game could achieve $40million off a new untested IP. Are you getting SC?

    • Axe99

      I backed SC before it had passed it’s original kickstarter goals, and am insanely happy at how well it’s done :). It looks bloody awesome. I’m kinda hoping it’ll get ported to PS4, because I’d rather play it there (I do a lot of gaming on PC, but things just work more seamlessly and with less hassle on console), but I’ll play it on whatever platform it turns up on, and will happily upgrade my PC rig if I need to, to get decent performance (although by the sound of things I’ll be fine with my current, if no-where near maxing everything out).

      Totally agree SC is a game by the fans for the fans – it’d never get publisher backing, and tbh I don’t think there are many $40 million games that could release PC exclusive and make their money back (let alone make their money before release ;)) – Blizzard and the high profile MMOs are the only other games I can think of, but even with Blizzard and the MMOs, they’re leveraging IP’s that have been around for over a decade. SC is a new IP, big-budget, PC-first (I think it’ll come to console eventually, but just like Wing Commander 3 and 4, and many games prior to PC gaming being destroyed by piracy in the late 90s, it’ll be built _for_ PC, then ported to console, rather than the other way around).

    • Psionicinversion

      Well CR is targetting an Nvidia 780 as 1080p max details decent framerate which is alot more powerful than console hardware so itll run on PS4 but not at that level of detail. Another interesting feature is the ability to hail people not exactly sure how its going to work so you can speak to them without text chat but has both, lets say MS brings some sekrit sauce out for X1 and put it on par or slightly behind PS4 x1 will have a slight advantage cus its already being worked on, on if you have a camera on your PC for example the webcam will read your face and the face in game will move exactly as you do whilst speaking to give it that extra depth so X1 has a clear advantage there as kinect can so that moreso than ps4 cus kinect is included, its a minor feature tbh but its well thought out none the less.

      Its funny cus there was an episode on 10 for the chairman or wingamans hangar or something where they were talking about pitching the game and most ppl on the board or whoever they were pitching to were like oh yeah could be good but then a few of them were like oh space sims are dead no one wants a space sim so was incredibly hard to pitch the idea. Now then after the game had raised 10’s of million of dollars in crowd funding they were being approached by the publishers and CR was knocking them back out of the ball park one after the other cus they dont need them. Why restrict yourself to investment from a publisher that only cares about money? were providing the money and there making a game that will be legendary, a game for the gamersand they have the top ppl in the world working on this. You watch the next great starship? the ppl making these designs are really good and are designers concept artists, 3d modellers etc and all competing for a hip in the game thats got to say in itself how buzzed everyone is about this

    • Axe99

      Aye, it’s all bloody awesome :). I’m tend to play the game when it’s done, rather than get involved with the development – I back CR and his team to have better design smarts than me 😉 – but I get the email alerts and check things out from time to time, and it’s looking bloody brilliant. Totally agree how it’s great that the publisher’s wouldn’t support it, then couldn’t get a piece of the action after they’d missed the boat ;).

    • Psionicinversion

      Exactly, with the next great starship theyve the lead concept modeller, visual modeller, 3d modeller etc and CR himself, and you know it isnt some fake competition to gain interest cus they all know what they want from a design and how it will fit in the universe and not afraid to give critical feedback even when some ppl opinion s wer elike it basically sucked but they didnt want to stifle the creativity cus its a very short time to do this stuff when everyone has jobs. its a good insight to how these guys see the ships they want in game. If it dont fit they dont want it simple as that

      Its absolutey awesome, if EA got any part of the action of this project id dump it and forget about it cus it will suck in the end. there will be someway of ripping you off and cant be bothered with it

    • BroJ

      I cannot wait till Star Citizen comes out and you realize how crappy the game is considering the low budget it has. It is going to be a riot.

    • Psionicinversion

      how crappy Star Citizen is? $40million is quite alot for a game actually obscene amount of funding for an indie game. SC is going to be awesome that gameplay is going to be awesome theyve got some of the best ppl in the world on this

    • Psionicinversion

      also every penny goes into development, nothing gets siphoned off for marketing and all that $40milllion of pure development OWNAGE

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVaR1wHRWX0 new avenger with PBR

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-wXjEggms start from 5:30 SC’s AI…. going be the best AI in any game anywhere

      The scope is soo much bigger than anything done before and gfx are child like like wow to attract everyone. Still think its going to be epic fail, epic awesome i hope it comes to PS4ail and look like cr@p to show all the ponies there system sux. going to destroy infamous 1886 witcher 3 etc

    • Drummel

      Console gaming is still the soul of video gaming. I’d have no problem if PCs were the only option to play games on. The problem is they aren’t. And 95% of developers focus on consoles during development, not PC. They care about sales. And they care about costs. If you keep developing by targeting bleeding edge hardware than your dev costs are going to be astronomical, especially for smaller studios. Consoles are friendlier for devs and up to this point have been more reliable from a sales perspective. I’d have no problem if this changed in the future.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah thats true they cant target bleeding edge hardware, nothing can really cus only maybe the top 10% maybe even 5% of PC gamers have that hardware, need to target the majority really but the main reason why consoles are targetted is cus there fixed for 6-8 years you know what the hardware is you can optimise and get the best.

      Now then apparently theres a big push by nvidia for native 4K games and i belive it cus Watch dogs is 4K, the next CoD i think is properly 4K SC is 4K (that was done anyway) and the new maxwell hardware is impressive. Its got 25% more performance in the newly configured SMM’s over SMX… specific example a 128 CUDA core SMM = the same power as 192 CUDA core SMX (kepler) hang on that not right might of calculated it wrong or remembered the configuration example wrong at that rate its 33%. either way its more powerful takes half the watts over kepler and the high end ones have a co-processor (project denver) that alleviates the CPU commands in hardware versus mantles software/driver solution so who knows either way its a very good time to be a gamer

    • Dakan45

      ” And 95% of developers focus on consoles during developmen”

      No 50% of developers work on pc while only 19% work on ps4

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/analyst-claims-that-pc-games-are-more-popular-than-both-xbox-one-ps4-titles/

      Sorry pc is the future.

    • BroJ

      Your facts are terrible. PC has all indie games of course that number will be higher. Consoles have more top selling and triple AAA games then PC will ever see.

      Read this and go cry on your keyboard of your Personal Computer with no games to play.

      http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/future-gaming-still-belongs-consoles/#!z6a4V

      http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130811154812/undeadfanstories/images/8/84/Spongebob-butthurt_large.gif

    • Dakan45

      HAHAHAHAHA

      BUT YOUR AAA GAMES ARE SELLING LIKE CRAP YOU IDIOT.

      AHAHAH

      I cant believe you posted the only article made by a clueless console idiot.

      imgur.com/tsCq4Qg.png
      pc exlusives are higher rated and pc has more exlusives than all consoles combined.

      your consoles are the ones who dont have crap and are DYING

      149$ gpu beats your patheticstation 4

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/low-end-gpu-geforce-750ti-runs-battlefield-4-better-than-ps4-titanfall-better-than-xbox-one/

      Your consoles are weak trashboxes already outdated

      pc is more popular than consoles

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

      50% of devs work on pc games and only 19% on ps4

      ea says pc is the fastet growing platform

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

      ea says they make more money on pc

      http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ea-financials-are-in-pc-making-more-money-than-con-28785494/

      ms wants to sell xbox division because since xbox prototype back in 2001, it STILL hasnt made money.

      http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/18/sony-expected-to-turn-first-profit-since-2008

      ps3 was damaging no profit.

      amd makes more money than sony per ps4

      http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2308282/amd-makes-more-profit-than-sony-on-the-ps4

      Reserarch and development for new graphics chips cost billions each year sony and ms CANT afford it only amd and nvidia can, THUS hardware put in next gen consoles are weaker than pc hardware

      Sony could be bunkrupt in 2 years

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      despite srtong ps4 sales sony credit is still junk

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      sony lays off people and closes divisions to save money

      http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/06/business/la-fi-sony-pc-20140207

      Ken levine creator of bioshock says the future of gaming is on pc

      http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/29/ken-levine-if-you-want-to-know-the-future-of-gaming-buy-a-pc/

      “if you wanna see the future of gaming buy a pc”

      Ken levine closes down his company to work on pc exlusives

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/02/18/bioshock-infinite-developer-irrational-games-shutting-down/

      cliffy b creator of gears of war leaves studio to work on pc exlusives

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/cliffyb-likes-pc-gaming-again

      he says 60 bucks sale model is dead

      http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/18/cliff-bleszinski-says-hes-done-with-disc-based-games

      peter molyneux creator of fable goes indie as well and quits microsoft

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-11-peter-molyneux-why-i-quit-microsoft-and-why-my-new-game-will-change-the-world

      pc revenue is higher than consoles

      http://gearnuke.com/pc-dominates-market-51-console-30-mobile-13-according-new-report/

      http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-28-pc-software-hit-record-USD20b-revenue-in-2012

      steam has 75 million acounts buying games daily, thats more than xbox live and increases its user base by 10 million when next gen trashboxes came out.

      http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/15/steam-has-75-million-active-users-valve-announces-at-dev-days/

      Here have a tissue to wipe your butt because i f3ckd you so hard and now you are BUTTHURT.

    • Dakan45

      i know delusional moron thats exactly why devs are so angry with you, because you dont buy games you rent them or buy them used while on pc they are cheaper thansks to steam deals and every developer is putting more and more games to steam for that reason.

    • Dakan45

      Bf4 sp has better graphics than shadowfail as for mp? Heah bf4 is unimpressive but shadowfail mp is basicly crysis 2 mp.

    • Axe99

      On my rig it does – I’d say Crysis 2 running on a couple of GTX 780s in SLI would do better, but then given the rig would cost upwards of $1200, it’d bloody want to!

    • Dakan45

      crysis 2? I hope you meant 3 because crysis 2 can be maxed out on a mere gtx 275.

      Well the 149$ 750 ti runs bf4 better than ps4 and xbone and thats without mantle support.

      I cant wait for E3 so we will see “next gen” graphics.

    • Axe99

      BF4 is a PC engine not optimised for console – of the PS4 games I have, BF4 would be amongst the least impressive visually – so it’s hardly a great example of how well consoles can handle visuals.

      As for Crysis 2, I’d assumed it’d have pushed PCs like the first and third, but that’s clearly not the case – in which case, your comment that KZ:SF is basically Crysis 2 MP is trolling of the highest order (as is Crysis 2 being maxed out with a GTX 275 – I’d recommend looking at some benchmarks on the game).

    • Dakan45

      “BF4 is a PC engine not optimised for console”
      wut?

      Same architecture, wtf is not optimized? Please get real.

      If anything its more optimized than any other game outhere since its designed to take advantage of multiple cores.

      http://i2.minus.com/imKCU0fYtUiTy.png

      What are the other games on your ps4 look better? Dont say Blackflag, its visually pretty but it doesnt have lighting and texture details bf4 has and its not like there is anything other on next gen consoles, thief is there but it doesnt look as good even as a joke, not to mention ghost please dont pull off sports games and need for speed.

      So you dont know how crysis 2 is yet you making comparisons?

      Multiple pc gamers i chat with have agreed that it looks as good as shadowfall on mp.

      http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/mig/1/2/0/6/2051206-704523_20130820_018.jpg

      http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/07/crysis-2-directx-11-patch-analysis/crysis2-dx11-generic1.jpg

      Pretty similar

      Also i dont need to watch benchmarks i was maxing out on my old gtx 275 with 50-60 fps, running and climbing stuff like crazy. I did not try the dx11 patch because my card didnt support it but since the day it came out i was maxing out until many months later they made the dx11 patch in response to not push high end pcs like the first one.

      So yeah.

    • BroJ

      One of the worse launches of gaming history and you think they optimized it. Get real. bF4 is got some impressive graphics but is far from taking advantage of the new consoles. Sure it looks great on a very high end PC but thinking DICE took there time to optimize for PS4 and XB1 is stupid. It is a game for 5 platforms and rushed by EA. Get real.

    • Dakan45

      kid please, next gen consoles are LIKE PCS, there is no need for optimization if it runs well on WEAK pcs it should run well on next gen.

      isnt that the whole point of NEW CONSOLES and EASY TO USE PC ARCHITECTURE?

      FACE IT your consoles are PATHETIC pieces of trash long live pc gaming which is booming right now.

      http://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pc-games-sales.png

      50% OF CONSOLE GAMERS ALSO PLAY ON PC

      old list but still relevant

      https://mlpchan.net/anon/src/1394239471588.jpg

      Sorry console muppet race!!!

    • BroJ

      Your Google skills are amazing. You do know you can type in anything and get fanboy articles for every platform. You are stupid. Plain and simple.

    • Dakan45

      whats wrong kid? you got pwned and got no argument.

      BUTTHURT MUCH?

      http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/44735476.jpg

    • Dakan45
    • BroJ

      On a pure technical level. Killzone Shadow Fall owns BF in single player. You have must not have played it. Quit going off compressed images and videos. I have played KZ Shadow Fall all the way through and BF4 and KZ owns it in the graphics department on single player. Multiplayer BF wins hands down.

    • Dakan45

      You dont understand graphisc you braindamged muppet.

      Lets ask jim terling.

      “As already noted, Killzone: Shadow Fall
      is a good- looking game, though that mostly thanks to the art design.
      Textures are a bit blurry at times, and the physics have a habit of
      freaking out, while the overall graphics really aren’t much of a leap
      from the PS3 and definitely struggle to outmatch the very best of what a
      comparable PC can do. That said, art direction does trump hardware horsepower, and Shadow Fall has that where it counts.”

      PWNED

      Also its well known crysis 3 and bf4 have better graphcs on pc AM SORRY that your patheticstation 4 cant bf4 as well as pc.

      Whats that? the 149$ 750 ti runs bf4 better than ps4?

      HAHAHAH pwned.

      But hey lets see what digital foundry has to say about “tomb raider definitve edition”

      “Running with the ultimate preset enabled and the original TressFX in
      action, it’s clear that the Definitive Edition delivers an upgrade in
      select areas, but fails to trump the PC game in all respects. Certainly,
      when it comes to running at 1080p60 – or with even higher resolutions
      and frame-rate – no other platform can truly offer a PC-beating
      experience.”

      “The PC version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large
      discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat
      PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the
      characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more
      blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is
      used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower
      in some cases”

      hahhah pwnd again.

      Thief runs like crap on ps4

      deep down gets deep downgraded

      unreal engine 4 runs like crap on ps4

      Infamous doesnt even have dynamic shadows AHAHAHAHHA

      Also NO EXLUSIVES?

      AHAHAAHH pc has more exlusives than ALL CONSOLES COMBINED dipsh!t

      Clueless as always and BETTER RATED TOO

      mgur.com/tsCq4Qg.png

      DEAL WITH IT KID YOUR CONSOLES ARE WEAK PIECES OF TRASH AND HAVE NO EXLUSIVES PC WINS

      50% OF DEVELOPERS WORK ON PC GAMES ONLY 19% ON PS4

      SORRY YOU GOT PWNED.

    • BroJ

      Once again all caps speak how bad you got pwned by me.

    • Dakan45

      http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/44735476.jpg

      KEEP BEING butthurt kiddo, its all you clueless dudebros can ever be.

      no arguments just butthurt.

    • BroJ

      4k. LOL

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah 4K is the future :d the maxwell cards are designed with 4K in mind, Volta is going be nuts upto 1TB/s bandwidth with stacked DRAM :d

    • Dakan45

      unreal engine demo runs worse on ps4
      shadowfail mp is 960x1080p 45 fps
      thief runs like crap
      watchdogs and infamous get downgraded.

      Face it ps4 sucks.

    • Broj

      You are a mindless lonely troll.

    • Dakan45

      By the looks of it the midnless lonely and BUTTHURT troll is you.

      Cry some more kiddo, enjoy your patheticstation 4 failing in sales and games enjoy your subpar trashy console, enjoy your low sellling games and enjoy seeing everything getting downgraded.

      Pc gaming for the win 50% of devs work on pc, guess how many works on ps4? 19%

      Enjoy your failure

    • BroJ

      I will enjoy my PS4 for another 7 years with new exclusives every year and support from all developers. I will also enjoy ports from PC that is better then PC like Diablo 3 coming to PS4 with features that PC will never see.

      Consoles are here to say and they are dominating PC gaming. True story. Every PC mutiplayer game like COD, BF and many others has double sometimes triple the amount of players playing at a time. PC sucks so deal with it.

    • Dakan45

      NO YOU WONT because it wont last 7 yeasr sony confirmed this generation will be shorter.

      Also this is the last console generation.

      Sorry pc has more exlusives and better rated ones, no one is making you upgrade you braindamged bufoon we upgrade to get better graphics WHILE YOU GET STUCK WITH SAME ANCIENT GRAPHICS AS EVER.

      Sorry pc has better exlusives whily your ps4 is paperweight that has NOTHING and pc is DOMINATING

      HAHAHAHAHA

      BUT YOUR AAA GAMES ARE SELLING LIKE CRAP YOU IDIOT.

      AHAHAH

      I cant believe you posted the only article made by a clueless console idiot.

      imgur.com/tsCq4Qg.png
      pc exlusives are higher rated and pc has more exlusives than all consoles combined.

      your consoles are the ones who dont have crap and are DYING

      149$ gpu beats your patheticstation 4

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/low-end-gpu-geforce-750ti-runs-battlefield-4-better-than-ps4-titanfall-better-than-xbox-one/

      Your consoles are weak trashboxes already outdated

      pc is more popular than consoles

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

      50% of devs work on pc games and only 19% on ps4

      ea says pc is the fastet growing platform

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

      ea says they make more money on pc

      http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ea-financials-are-in-pc-making-more-money-than-con-28785494/

      ms wants to sell xbox division because since xbox prototype back in 2001, it STILL hasnt made money.

      http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/18/sony-expected-to-turn-first-profit-since-2008

      ps3 was damaging no profit.

      amd makes more money than sony per ps4

      http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2308282/amd-makes-more-profit-than-sony-on-the-ps4

      Reserarch
      and development for new graphics chips cost billions each year sony and
      ms CANT afford it only amd and nvidia can, THUS hardware put in next
      gen consoles are weaker than pc hardware

      Sony could be bunkrupt in 2 years

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      despite srtong ps4 sales sony credit is still junk

      http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/01/02/sony-has-78-chance-to-go-bankrupt-in-two-years-says-macroaxis/

      sony lays off people and closes divisions to save money

      http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/06/business/la-fi-sony-pc-20140207

      Ken levine creator of bioshock says the future of gaming is on pc

      http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/29/ken-levine-if-you-want-to-know-the-future-of-gaming-buy-a-pc/

      “if you wanna see the future of gaming buy a pc”

      Ken levine closes down his company to work on pc exlusives

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/02/18/bioshock-infinite-developer-irrational-games-shutting-down/

      cliffy b creator of gears of war leaves studio to work on pc exlusives

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/cliffyb-likes-pc-gaming-again

      he says 60 bucks sale model is dead

      http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/18/cliff-bleszinski-says-hes-done-with-disc-based-games

      peter molyneux creator of fable goes indie as well and quits microsoft

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-11-peter-molyneux-why-i-quit-microsoft-and-why-my-new-game-will-change-the-world

      pc revenue is higher than consoles

      http://gearnuke.com/pc-dominates-market-51-console-30-mobile-13-according-new-report/

      http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-28-pc-software-hit-record-USD20b-revenue-in-2012

      steam
      has 75 million acounts buying games daily, thats more than xbox live
      and increases its user base by 10 million when next gen trashboxes came
      out.

      http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/15/steam-has-75-million-active-users-valve-announces-at-dev-days/

      Here have a tissue to wipe your butt because i f3ckd you so hard and now you are BUTTHURT.

      cry kid cry buthurt little kiddo.

    • Datjelly

      How about you quit being a fanboy? Real gamers play any game on any platform and don’t pick sides. Seriously all you do is miss out in good games. In my house there is one high end pc, a mid end pc, 2 ps3s, 2 ps4s, an xbox 360, a wii, 3 ds lites, 2 n64s. Yet my number one choice to play at the moment is my playstation 3 because nothing in any other platform has what I want at the moment. Everything has its ups and downs including pc.

    • Dakan45

      fanboy of what? i bought ps3 to play alot of exlusives but doesnt change the fact sony FANBOYS are braindamged hypocritcal flip flopers and should be killed.

    • BroJ
    • Dakan45
    • Psionicinversion

      Enjoy diablo 3 when everyone whose played it says it sucks you have keep replaying the same stuff again and again and again to get higher level or something, its more repetitive than a cd stuck on repeat for infinity

    • Michael Norris

      Titanfail runs at 792p with Ps3/360 textures and runs at the same frame rate….

    • Dakan45

      are you stupid? I am a pc gamer you dumb f2ck you are the miggest idiot i have ever seen seriously KILL YOURSELF arsewipe.

    • Psionicinversion

      yeah PC’s 4K easy :d if ya got the dosh.

    • Michael Norris

      You been reading Mrmediax’s blag have you not? If that is the case HAHAHAHAHAHAH LOLOLOLOLOLOL you got PUNKed.

    • Psionicinversion

      what you on about? the ps4’s hardware? my i7 will own the cpu in the PS5…. fact. The PS4 gpu is like an 8670 or someat which is the mobile version of the 7xxx series so yeah it was beat when they first came out. 4K is on for PC gamers i reckon in a few years if 4K screens come down a bit more to like £500 itll gain alot more traction (not talking about the true color IGZO displays obviously there like £3000).

      In a few years should have either 3rd gen maxwells or first gen Volta 1TB/s memory bandwidth with stacked DRAM bye bye PS4ail

  • Exposed

    Its about the games, period. I got a PS4 at launch for Killzone. It was the #1 selling exclusive at launch but at the moment there are barely over 1000 players on during prime times. Its sad. I won’t get an XBox One for Titanfall but I would for the next Halo. I am sure Titanfall has a strong population and as long as 343 rights the wrongs they made before and learns from their Halo 4 experience, I know it will have a strong population. Its about the games, not brand worship. inFAMOUS? No thanks. The Order 1886? Yes please.

  • Steph

    I’ll keep my ps4 and xb1 as long as worthwhile games keep releasing, which is why I’m most likely selling off my wiiU soon unless a miracle happens at E3.

  • You are flat out wrong

    More bad news for the Xbots.

    Bu bu but DX12!

    • Psionicinversion

      bh buih buh infamous camera downgrade the order, 800 lines of real rendering, watychdogs looks rubbish cus they overestimated power of consoles, witcher 3 will look horrible well will after a zdepth field of 15 is achieved…. buh buh dx 12 ray tracing 4k it as load of crap.

      DX 12 will come out at ewhatever E3 or someat and it will prvide more performance to xbox becuase if it is primarily designed at getting the most out of low powered CPU’s which the jaguar is (X1 + PS4 is a tablet CPU) also it greatly needs more GPU performance improvements intrms of low level for GCN which both conosles are GCN, so the performance incrases will be at thr GCN level on the DX side of there hardware. I actually think if sony gave there opengl stuff to MS it would run equally as good as PS4 comparatively to lower powered hardware. dx is basically crap in box

    • You are flat out wrong

      lol Infamous “downgrade,” still clinging to that? Sad.

      Yeah, DX12 ain’t all that. Too many people putting too much stock into it. There will be tears from the Xbots. 🙁

    • Psionicinversion

      theres so much downgrade its like being told 1st class airline flight is full and your being downgraded to travelling on a bus!!

    • You are flat out wrong

      Now I know you’re just trolling, son. 🙂

    • Dakan45

      no dynamic shadows, yeah looks like a downgrade to me.

      But hey lets damage control ps4, despite we all know that the system isnt anywhere near as powerfull as they thought it will be.

      Helll son is damage controlling comparing the cpu to ps2 instead of ps3s, I WONDER WHY, could it be because the tablet crap cpu it has is weaker than ps3 cpu.

    • You are flat out wrong

      I’ve seen actual gameplay screenshots. The dynamic shadowing is there. At this point this stuff is “Bush did 9/11” level crap. Deal with it. 🙂

    • Dakan45

      You dont even know wtf “dynamic shadows” are you braindamaged muppet.

      The DEVELOPERS THEMSELFS EXPLAINED WHY THERE ARENT DYNAMIC SHADOWS AND YET YOU TRYING TO DAMAGE CONTROL BY SPEWNING CLUELESS BULLCRAP.

      You are a clueless dumb troll.

      DEAL WITH IT, dipsh!t

      Nexc up you are flat out clueless tries to dissagree with a statment made by developers.

      clap clap clap, you reached a new level of pretentiousnes.

      /facepalm

    • You are flat out wrong

      There are dynamics shadows coming from central light sources. Every individual headlight and street light (of which there are many dozens) don’t because it would be pointless and it would be a waste of processing power when it could produce more pretty particle effects instead.

      F*ck, Dakky, you’re dumb. The gameplay screenshots are already in the wild. You’re wrong. 🙂

    • Dakan45

      THERE ARENT THEY ARE CONFIRMED BY THE DEVELOPERS YOU BRAINDAMAGED MUPPET.

      http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

      THERE YOU GO.

      Nuff said ,now stop being a braindamged MORON you butthurt sony f@ggot.

      http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6clmaHABF1r2dych.jpg

    • You are flat out wrong

      And yet dynamic shadows turn up in gameplay footage. So who do I believe: the finished product or your butthurt lies?

      “BUT THE DEVELOPERS SAID” yeah, and the developers said there were no downgrades too. I’ll take that. 🙂

    • Dakan45

      yeah take it from the devs ,its devs who liked about the last of us having amazing ai and downgraded it on release

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/01/27/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-despite-strong-ps4-sales/

      sony is dying. They are only maskign the fact they are a sinking ship.

      http://gaminrealm.com/2013/12/30/sony-79-chance-bankrupt-2-years/

      sony =make believe and you morons fall for it.

      http://gaminrealm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/sony_firm_bw_logo_31013_1920x1080-660×350.jpg

    • BroJ

      Why would Sony have to do damage control.

      They are way ahead of XB1 in sells.

      They will have exclusives that put XB1 and PC to shame graphically. AKA The Order 1886, Infamous SS, Naughty Dogs new game.

      They had no bad press or stupid features for PS4.

      They are 100$ cheaper then the competition.

      They do not force you to buy a 100$ Kinect gimmicky fad motion camera. All third party developers are laughing at the Kinect.

      The PS4 is a amazing piece of technology considered by all Triple AAA developers, Indie Developers and even PC developers. Not to mention critically acclaimed by every tech site.

      Quit spewing garbage and grasping at straws you pathetic troll.

      http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130811154812/undeadfanstories/images/8/84/Spongebob-butthurt_large.gif

    • Dakan45

      Sony INVENTED damage controlling.

      “They will have exclusives that put XB1 and PC to shame graphically. ”

      Didnt reallize graphics= games!!!

      Wait let me see, nope ps2 won by having the weakest graphics and x360 with the lower price.

      Case and point NO ONE CARES ABOUT SONY EXLUSIVES ONLY FANBOYS. They sell low anyway.

      “The PS4 is a amazing piece of technology considered by all Triple AAA developers, Indie Developers and even PC developers.”

      ITS A CRAPPY PC, OFCOURSE ITS “AMAZING” COMPARED TO THAT DISASTER OF ARCHITECTURE PS3 WAS YOU BRAINDAMAGED MUPPET. THATS WHAT DEVS WANTED A PC LIKE CONSOLE TO MAKE THIGNS EASIER THAN SOME SH!TTY J@P ARCHITECTURE OF CRAPINESS.

      Yeah lick that sony d!ck some more

      http://i.imgur.com/JQ3RDVe.gif

      Sony super defence force GO!!!!!!

    • BroJ

      All cap typing = brain damaged troll PC muppet. Also extreme butt hurt because you know you are wrong.

    • BroJ

      The Order 1886 craps all over anything PC has so your comment is lame. Even Infamous Second son is the best looking game right now coming out on any platform. Go watch the gameplay in 1080P and get pwned.

    • Psionicinversion

      The reason why there isnt an APU out the same as PS4 is because they would competing with there own discrete gfx cards so theres no way theyd do that. maybe in a few years when the power difference are much bigger. Kaveri is very promising even in its weakened state with ddr3.

      The Witcher 3 will look best on PC and look and run rubbish on the consoles, made for high end rigs played on hgh end rigs sux on middle of the road hardware looking at you ps4!!

    • Broj

      You dumb .

    • BroJ

      The point is PS4 is a dedicated gaming machine and PCs are not. It takes consoles to push innovation and new engines. Why do you think all the Triple AAA developers are just now pushing out there new graphics engines. Next gen consoles is out so now they can go forward and bring all the new tech out.

      Batman Arkham Knight was just announced 4 months after new consoles launched. Why? Because it is built for Next gen consoles and PC. Developers know where the money and most sales are and it is not PC. Not to mention the tech behind the new Batman sounds stunning if you have read the new Game Informer. The New Batman cannot be done on the 360 or PS3. The Bat Mobile alone takes up more memory then a entire level of Arkham Asylum. Also there is no loading screens anywhere ever. And all Cut scenes are done in engine. That is next gen.

      What is out now besides Killzone SF or Ryse is not next gen. It is copy and pasted ports with old tech designed for old tech and older PCs. Look at Thief. Pure garbage. Loading screens every 5 minutes with terrible AI and even lip syncing issues. Starting with Infamous SS next gen will start then we will see stuff that you stop and say wow I have never seen that before. Right now though everything is Meh.

    • Psionicinversion

      the money is in console sales cus 1 hard to pirate console software/may be viturally impossible atm also they can charge more for the console versions of games for some unknown reason and guys keep saying yes please with your wallets

    • Dakan45

      unreal engine 4 demo runs like crap on ps4

      deep down gets deep downgraded to run on ps4

      shadowfall mp is 960x1080p at 45-50 fps

      thief runs like crap on consoles

      149$ 750 ti beats ps4 on bf4.

      the order is 1920x800p

      infamous gets downgraded

      sony is saying that the crappy 1.6ghz ps4 cpu is like 64 ps2s, now comparing it with ps3 since ps3 cpu is 3.2ghz…..DAMAGE CONTROL!!!!

      and then there is this

      http://www.ozone3d.net/public/jegx/201311/amd_mantle_100k_drawcalls.jpg

    • BroJ

      (unreal engine 4 demo runs like crap on ps4)

      It is a tech demo which means games will not even look that good all hype. I can put hype PS4 tech demo up to that trounces Unreal engine 4 tech demo.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC5nrVJ764U

      (deep down gets deep downgraded to run on ps4)

      Deep Down still looks better then any PC game out right now.

      (shadowfall mp is 960x1080p at 45-50 fps)

      The developer defended this quite respecfully. Also it is a launch game who cares.

      “In multiplayer mode, however, we use a technique called ‘temporal reprojection’, which combines pixels and motion vectors from multiple lower-resolution frames to reconstruct a full 1080p image. If native means that every part of the pipeline is 1080p then this technique is not native.

      “Games often employ different resolutions in different parts of their rendering pipeline. Most games render particles and ambient occlusion at a lower resolution, while some games even do all lighting at a lower resolution. This is generally still called native 1080p. The technique used in Killzone Shadow Fall goes further and reconstructs half of the pixels from past frames.

      (thief runs like crap on consoles)

      Thief is a terrible game and does not even run well on a PC. Unoptimized garbage and a crappy game that will get forgotten in a month. You bringing it up shows how desperate you are.

      (149$ 750 ti beats ps4 on bf4)

      Once again a rushed un optimized game built for five platforms. If DICE does away with 360 and pS3 on next BF it will be 20 times better then BF4. Also DICE is a PC developer so of course PC will beat it out. Also you cannot run bF4 with just a 149$ 750 ti. LOL You are missing 95% of the other parts.

      (the order is 1920x800p)

      They did this because of wanting to look like a movie. Also The Order 1886 trounces any game coming out or announced visually so your comment is stupid and pointless.

      (infamous gets downgraded)

      No downgrade has happened you ignorant buffoon.

      http://www.cinemablend.com/games/InFamous-Second-Son-Hasn-t-Been-Downgraded-PS4-Says-Sucker-Punch-62804.html

      Just owned you on every fanboy remark you said. Now go hide under your computer desk and grasp them RTS games firmally cause that is all you will have to play in the future.

      http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130811154812/undeadfanstories/images/8/84/Spongebob-butthurt_large.gif

    • Dakan45

      HAHAAH your butthurt and damage control is insane kid.

      Listen here next gen consoles suposse to be powerfulL YET THEY CANT EVEN RUN A NEW ENGINE. Yet you show off a MOVIE as a “tech demo”

      AS IF everyone doesnt know that quantic dream games are movies. No physics no high capability for large maps and destruction like unreal engine 4.

      Thief runs like crap bf4 runs like crap, dont blame the developer blame ps4 you muppet. Your ps4 is pathetic.

      Deep down got downgraded it looked amazing back when it was deomed on a pc now it looks like a modified dark souls on pc, you are pathetic kiddo.

      Infamosu gets downgraded no dynamic shadows in 2014 SO MUCH FOR NEXT GEN.

      Twist it as you wish but the fact of the mattter is shadowfaill runs at 960x1080p at 45 fps and the mp looks just as good as crysis 2. PATHETIC!!!!

      No the order doesnt run on 30 fps and 800p with blackbars because they are trying to be “cinematic” you DUMB MUPPET, its running like that because ps4 is WEAK. Cod is also “cinematic” but its 60 fps without black bars, thats because they dont try to have high end graphics but when you try to have demanding graphisc you garbagestation 4 cant take it so they havE to turn down the resolution and framerate so it can take it. JUST LIKE QUANTIC DREAM GAMES THAT LOOK GOOD BUT PLAY LIKE A FREAKING MOVIE.

      PWNDD!!

      PATHETICSTAION 4.

      https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lIgTwSqdAUw/T00gZqkS3GI/AAAAAAAANxc/SaIoJrYxqeY/w800-h800/obvious%252B_93ae0c10893ec10246c42668b1e30a1d.jpg

      LICK SONY SOME MORE YOU PATHETIC FANTARD.

      MMM YEAH THAT SONY D!CK IN YOUR VAG TASES GOOD.

      https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lIgTwSqdAUw/T00gZqkS3GI/AAAAAAAANxc/SaIoJrYxqeY/w800-h800/obvious%252B_93ae0c10893ec10246c42668b1e30a1d.jpg

      Pc has the biggest exlusive variety EVER unlike your pathetic consoles that only have shooters, haahaha pathetic CLUELESS sony drone.

    • Fdx

      Pretty sa d to miss out good games over fanboyism. I got 8 platforms including a pc andthey all have their own share of games.

    • Dakan45

      Tell that to sony fantards i bought a ps3 and played its games, they didnt buy a pc or x360.

    • BroJ

      You are a Damage control master. Getting owned and losing arguments is your bread and butter.

    • Dakan45

      Damage controling what?

      So much butthurt from the damage controling sony drones.

      Here is your oder being destroyed.

      http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/122/1224541/2456176-2439752-untitled.png

      ahahah pathetic when the gameplay comes out it will dissapoint both graphically and gameplay wise

      Go ahead do some more damage control on this and peopel who played it and said it runs like crap

      delusional sony drone.

    • Dakan45

      xbox cpu is more powerfull just saying.

    • BroJ

      WOW. No comment.

    • You are flat out wrong

      In numbers it is but the PS4 CPU is more efficient.

    • Dakan45

      Its a fact, why are you butthurt about that tiny little fact?

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  • Marcus

    PS has way better first-party exclusives than MS. When was the last time one of their games was mentioned for Game of the Year? They constantly have to buy their first party exclusives; Halo, Gears, even Banjo or shell out cash to land an exclusive. They have no imagination and no creation in their studios. Same can not be said for Sony who has released far better First-party games. Uncharted, Journey, Last of Us, Little Big Planet etc. are all game of the year contenders if not winners. Although the Wii U is failing, Nintendo still is pumping out better quality games than MS.


 

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