PS4 Exec On Rise of the Tomb Raider’s Xbox One Timed Exclusivity: ‘Not Too Concern About This Delay’

India’s PlayStation Country Manager, Atindriya Bose also talks about The Last Guardian and how it has generated a lot of inquisitiveness.

Posted By | On 16th, Sep. 2015 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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Rise of the Tomb Raider, the follow up to the Tomb Raider reboot back in 2013, will launch on the PlayStation 4, a full year after the game launches on the Xbox One later this year. This obviously gives Microsoft an upper hand for the last quarter of 2015. So how does this deal affects Sony and its highly successful console, the PS4? GamingBolt recently caught up with India’s PlayStation boss, Atindriya Bose and asked him about his thoughts on this timed exclusivity deal for the Rise of the Tomb Raider.

“These are strategies and partnerships that are drawn up at the world level. But whenever it comes in players will have it. See, there are two competitors playing with certain strategies. We have to look at what are the best things in our portfolio and what differentiators are there and to what extent it covers up certain gaps that we may be having,” Bose explained to GamingBolt. “The other competitor is also not going to fit without doing anything. These strategies happens between the platform owners and the developers.”

Bose expressed his confidence in the upcoming PS4 games line for 2015 and 2016 and according to him the delay should not be a cause of concern.

“But in terms of whenever it happens [the game’s release on PS4], there should not be any concern about its availability. I am not too concern about this delay but there should not be any concerns about its availability. In terms of distribution between ours and the third parties, making them available in the market, I think we have created an infrastructure that can take that ahead.”

It’s important to note that Bose’s comments are from an Indian market perspective but his comments indicate that Sony is confident about its strong games line up for 2016 which includes the likes of Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, Horizon Zero: Dawn and The Last Guardian.

Speaking about The Last Guardian, Bose stated that the title has created a lot of inquisitiveness among gamers and the delay has actually helped the game get more exposure.

“There is a high level of inquisitiveness about the title which if properly harnessed, it can do pretty well. It will still require IP creation for the Indian market. It’s a very unique title and it has a story based approach so in order to harness the inquisitiveness, there will be a bit of investment here. “[The delay] This has worked in our favor in creating an inquisitiveness and creating an IP on the basis of PR it has generated here.”

Stay tuned for our full interview with Bose in the coming days as we near the end of our month long coverage of PlayStation in India.


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  • Hvd

    do you expect them to say they are.really?really?really? wow.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus & @2econdgpuunlocking:disqus

      It’s a timed exclusive for a sequel to a game that sold better on PlayStation. What exactly is there to worry about?

      Even if Xbox One outsells PS4 this holiday season the PS4 would have to sell literally ZERO units for months for the Xbox One to catch up. Sony still has the price drop lever to pull as well.

    • Hvd

      sony makes no money on the ps4 as it is they mine as well just give it away.they said it them selves they lose $60 on every console sold.the ps4 costs $381 to make and retails at $400.how much of a price cut culd they give…lol.the only thing the ps4 has going for it is amount of consoles sold which they dont make money on…lulz

    • Rokell
    • Hvd
    • atrimus

      Hvd,

      Not only is Rockell’s links from more credible sites, but they’re also more recent.

    • Hvd

      talking to a sony fanboy.is worse then talking to a brick wall.at least the brick wall doesnt spea.lulz

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus

      Your English is atrocious and you sound like a mental midget. I am going to be using a couple of big words here, let’s hope you can keep up Junior!

      Here is the original article about Sony’s $60 loss…

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-20-sony-expects-to-recoup-playstation-4-hardware-loss-at-launch

      Honestly I think the $60 seems a tad high and the report does not gather that information from a solid source. A well-placed source is nice, but unless they were an engineer or somehow in the purchasing process for the PS4 components, I am not sure how much credibility this data has.

      Eurogamer has heard from well-placed sources that Sony expects to make an approximate $60 loss per $399 unit sold.

      http://allthingsd.com/20131119/teardown-shows-sonys-playstation-4-costs-381-to-build/

      If the teardown of the PS4 is showing a $381 price tag, that likely means Sony is making a small profit off the hardware. They just updated the system hardware recently so the cost is probably lower.

      Let’s assume for the sake of argument Sony is loosing $60 per system. As the Eurogamer Article states…

      The purchase of one launch title and a Plus subscription would indeed total close to, if not more than, the $60 mark.

      MS is taking a big loss for the Xbox One, they have already dropped the price far below the manufacturing cost. Insuring yet again another generation of Xbox Hardware losses.

      Original Xbox lost $5-7 billion, X360 at least $4 billion with RROD, now Xbox One will be yet another red number on the ledger. At least Sony isn’t nearly $10 billion in the hole just by being in the gaming marketplace. Microsoft’s success in the game industry has been very expensive for them. If MS doesn’t make the Xbox profitable this generation I don’t see how MS Shareholders are going to stand for another 5 years of losses if there is a generation of consoles after PS4/Xbox One. Shareholders actually want a return on their money they could care less about consoles and games.

    • Hvd

      my English is just fine.sony themselves said it.there hasnt been ONE article on xbox one loosing money NOT ONE.and you just CONFIRMED everything i said bout sony loosing $60 on every console sold.thx bro.sony has lost millions on the ps4 they even said they would make it back with ps+ and other things but as far as loosing millions or more on the CONSOLE it self they are.

    • such.wow
    • DarkSeptember

      Can you please rephrase that comment in English because I don’t understand gibberish . Thanks.

    • Hvd
    • MyNameIsX

      One of those is a forum post (not credible) and the CNET article is from September 2013 and when you read it, it’s actually pure speculation rather than coming from a named source. Were you living under a rock when the consoles launched? The strip-down revealed that Sony actually made $18 per console sold whereas Microsoft made $28 per console sold. That was before Microsoft slashed the price of the X1, however, so they were actually making a pretty big loss for a while. Hardware components have dropped in price since then so the profit margins are probably much higher now. And sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony – selling at $400 – is making way more revenue than Microsoft – selling at $350 – in the console business.

    • Hvd

      what ever ps4 fanboy.ps4 still has no game i care to get.plus all but 2 exclusives flopped did you guys get your FREE copy of driveclub yet…lol

    • MyNameIsX

      I’m just telling it like it is and your reaction is to call me a fanboy. Aww diddums, did my wittle comment hurt your wittle fanboy feelings?

    • MyNameIsX

      So your reaction to anyone who disagrees with you is to brand them a fanboy? Typical fanboy behaviour. Aww diddums, did my informed comment hurt your wittle fanboy feewings?

    • Hvd

      ere are plenty of reasons why the PS4 is doing better.

      1. Playstation is a global powerhouse of a brand. Xbox is not.
      2. It’s available – and far more popular – in far more countries
      3. Microsoft’s 2013 E3 press conference
      4. Initial overpricing of X1, plus forcing of Kinect
      5. PS4 is seen as more powerful and multiplatform games do tend to run slightly better on PS4
      6. Most of the games people want are available on both consoles
      7. The PS4 was marketed as a pure gaming system, the Xbox as a media centre. It’s quite obvious now what most people wanted
      8. The PS4 gained early momentum and that’s now steamrolling into people wanting to buy what their friends have.

      sounds like a fanboy to me when you list all that

      no matter what ANY FANBOY SAYS they loose money on every console sold if you do some simple math you can see how much the lost on the ps4.fanboys are in pure denial and will spin any argument to make them selves look like they are right.thats a fanboy like you who cant except FACT.

    • Mila
    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus

      So anyone that doesn’t immediately agree with you is a fanboy.

      You are a class act. How old are you 8? 9?

      Why don’t you go away and not come back until your balls drop and you have finished puberty.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus

      What I find so hiliarous about your comments is you want to come off as some “all seeing, all knowing super gaming fan who is much smarter than anyone in the room”.

      BUT you end up sounding like a total assclown because you have zero command of the English language.

      So you want to point out GameStop to buttress your arguement?

      http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/sony-we-will-lose-60-per-every-ps4-sold-so-buy-our-29451630/

      That is a forum post which quotes another article that quotes the Eurogamer article that I posted earlier. Which is 2 years old! You do realize that articles from 2 years ago are no longer considered news. 🙂

      http://www.cnet.com/news/playstation-4-to-sell-at-a-loss-but-sony-expects-profit/

      This is a CNet article that quotes the article from Eurogamer that is 2 years old.

      You got any more news stories for us genius?

      Uber Fail all around for you HVD!

    • namitokiwa

      that is the old news. Right now Sony has profits now. They have profits from software to hardware.

    • Hvd

      no matter what they still loose money on every console sold.micro soft may not have sold as much as sony but its all profit.so take that sony fanboy

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus

      That Eurogamer article is the only article saying Sony is taking a $60 loss. They didn’t have a source willing to give a name so the accuracy of that data is suspect. I am not saying it isn’t true, I am saying there isn’t any evidence beyond some nameless person saying it.

      Also you fail to notice that article is nearly 2 years old (will be in 3 days). Why is this relevant? Let me educate you!!!!

      1. Computer Components pricing drops rapidly.

      2. Given the popularity of the PS4, Sony would have the ability to leverage that demand for lower costs on the components.

      3. The PS4 hardware has already been updated and they wouldn’t have updated the hardware unless it was to make it more cost effective.

      Do you really believe that in 2 years and 25 million units later the PS4 cost exactly the same as it did day one? You called others out for “smoking” it seems to me you have been hitting the crack pipe.

    • Hvd

      so is his news.but you can spin it hoe you like sony fanboy since that why you do.

    • dsDoan

      Consoles are not, and have never been, key points of revenue. In the past, revenue came from game sales. Today, revenue comes from subscription services, and software sales (games, music, video, themes, etc). Regardless of profit-per-console, whoever is selling the most consoles, is raking in the most revenue. Sony could easily drop the PS4 retail price to $350, and still be making a hefty, overall, profit with their PlayStation department.

    • DarthDiggler

      @dsDoan:disqus

      Actually that changed this generation. Sony and MS (before price drop) were selling the systems at a small profit or minimal losses.

      Sony is wise for holding price, they should do so as long as they can. Which is why they do so many pack in deals now. it helps maintain the PS4 value at $399, so they don’t have to drop their pants like MS.

    • Jim Peterson

      Lol, you seem to have about the same understanding of business as the average five year old. The PS4 has been massively profitable for Sony and is a key product in the companied return to profitably.
      And as for what it’s got going for it, try the best versions of every single multiplat game, the only console that’s released AAA exclusives in the past year (one of them being the best exclusive on either system). What’s the Xbox got going for it? Downgraded ports of multiplat games and “exclusives” you can get better versions of on PC.

    • Hvd

      ignorance is bliss my friend and you are full of it.i never said they didny make any money on the console.i just said they loose $60 one eery console sold.stop being an ignorant fanboy especially when FACTS are right in front of you.they mite make $20 on every console sold.so the make some money.FACT PS4 COST TO MAKE $381.FACT PS4 RETAILS AT $400.FACT ps4 looses $60 on every console sold .they can sell 500,000,000 ps4’s FACT is they lose money on EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE SOLD.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6Putk03FJ1:disqus

      You make no sense and quite honestly you demonstrate the intellectual gravitas of a house plant. I can already tell trying to have any sort of discussion with you will be a waste of time and likely way over your narrow minded head.

  • 2econd gpu unlocking

    Of course they will say they are not worried.

    • Hvd

      thats what i just said and look at the fanboy reaction. i got…lol

    • Zubairu

      Why should playstation owners be worried. You can play uncharted collection plus uncharted 4 for that year until tomb raider releases. It’s more that you xbox fanboys are worried and always trying to be negative about anything sony does or says. Always the same bs no games no money bankruptcy etc. Don’t be so sour

    • Psionicinversion

      You can play uncharted collection and UC4. Ah yea because the collection you can finish in a month and UC4 in a few days. Playing all year hahaha give me a break

    • Zubairu

      Maybe you can play it in a few days i like to take it easy and explore everything. The witcher 3 i have since release but i am still busy with it on my first run. I have never played any uncharted game so i know to play the whole collection the way i play it will take me a year i also got Mgs5 fallout 4 star wars battlefront bloodborne dlc to play in that year and there might be more games i will get. So yeah i am happy TR does not release yet not that i would have complained if it did release together with the x1 version. But i don’t mind the wait at all got enough to do on my Ps4!

      Just remeber mate not everybody is like you or plays like you or has so many time to game as you some people have jobs or a family or better things to do for them personally then to game everyday all day

    • Psionicinversion

      What do you mean explore everything? Uncharted is a linear game, you go forward until its finished that’s it. There is no exploring

    • Zubairu

      Like I said I never played any uncharted games so I have no idea how much you can explore even if it’s linear. There is always something extra to do expect maybe in crap game like the order. Plus I always play in the hardest difficulty I like the challenge! So believe me it will take more than one month for me to finish them all. I am sure of that

    • Psionicinversion

      shooters on the hardest level arent hard at all there pretty easy so you should be able to blow through it. In what linear game have you ever been able to explore anything really??

    • Zubairu

      I hope so that it will be not to hard to do. Games like metal gear solid you can explore alot and find alot of extra’s. Same goes for God of War, prince of Persia and resident evil. You can explore pretty much and find alot of extra’s that you would not if you normally played the game.

    • Psionicinversion

      Metal Gear is open world is completely different game design. Uncharted is like Battlefield and COD’s single player where you just go in a straight line till the end

    • Zubairu

      Mate metal Gear 5 is open world but metal gear 1 2 3 and 4 is linear. Even in battlefield you can explore and find stuff Intel, weapon unlocks etc. I never really played cod expect mw1 and 2 so can’t speak for that but even last of us linear game you can explore and find alot of stuff. Since the last of us was one the greatest games I ever played and it’s from the same developer as uncharted I have trust in it that it will all be good and enough to do extra.

    • Psionicinversion

      ah your one of them the searches every nook and cranny. fair enough

    • Darren Kendrick

      Let’s not forget until zero dawn next year, hopefully no mans sky too, along with all third party game’s, ie division in March… being a year late is no reason for anyone to buy an xbox, however I’m getting one for Xmas anyway so I can get all exclusives, as I have no preference on console, just games, and I have a job!… why anyone would piss on one just because they have the other is beyond me, but funny to read 🙂

    • Zubairu

      Yeah i am a gamer not a fanboy but i choose to buy a Playstation this gen maybe in time i will get a X1 but right now i don’t have much interest in most X1 exclusive games some look good like QB but it’s not enough for me to buy a extra console while i don’t even have so much time to game anymore. Got work to do and a family to take care of. I agree with you i really don’t get it why people fight and hate so much to defennd there console of choice. Plus the brainless and blind defending of everything they do even if MS or Sony makes mistakes they still defend every choice. It’s also funny to see how all the fanboys come in and discuss why there console is the best over the other console with BS like it’s stronger or better cpu better gpu… Lol who cares all i care about is the games and the exclusives and with only that in my mind i choose the console i want more. And to me personally it’s the ps4

    • Darren Kendrick

      It’s ps4 for me too, because I prefer their exclusives, but I wouldn’t mind a play through of halo and gears … never really been into halo, but this one looks good, plus I play more coop these days with online being the best it’s been, I love games pure and simple, and when me and the better half have secured our mortgage, I’ll have a gaming rig built too, so I have the best of everything 😉

    • DarthDiggler

      @psionicinversion:disqus

      To be fair no one knows how long Uncharted 4 will be. 🙂 Also you are discounting the Multiplayer.

    • Psionicinversion

      UC4 is going be about 15 hours. Sure I didn’t include the multiplayer but that’s personal preference

    • Domiddian

      Dude, stfu. Do you even hear yourself? Look at your comments. You’re one of the biggest fanboys here.

  • Zarbor

    Sony is saying they are not worried and they most likely aren’t. But I’m sure they are more worried about the lack of AAA exclusives this holiday and loose the hype its been riding.
    Just take a look at Sony’s recent pathetic advertisement to prove they have a great lineup with tons of multiplatform games that’s on both consoles.

    • Mike

      I don’t think anyone should be too worried. Nothing else has helped the Xbox one, I doubt them holding all their exclusives until the end of the year when all the big third party companies are releasing the big guns will help them sell much more than it would have without.

    • This Guy

      They’re thinking more about how rough the holiday season would be if they didn’t differentiate themselves from Sony. It’s a smart move IMO.

    • Mike

      I realize that they have to try something. I am just saying that it’s most likely not going to make a difference. Halo is their big game, it’s going to sell systems regardless of when they release it. Why they would release other exclusives near it seems silly. The Xbox one will most likely be the top seller in the US through the holiday again but after the surge, it will go back to ps4 being top seller again

    • namitokiwa

      when rise of the tomb raider out on xbox one. there is fallout 4. And fallout 4 in ps4 will sell super well also. So ROTR is not gonna help xbox one btw.
      Only Halo 5 may help xbox one but no for a long term. When all other games (multiplatform) availble, people still want to buy PS4 instead of xbox one because of software and the exclusive contents (dlcs) for ps4.
      So Xbox one may win in 1 months, but still lose in other months later.

    • Psionicinversion

      Not everyone like fallout games,I can’t stand playing them. Tried one of them once and it was so boring I nearly lost the will to live

    • DarthDiggler

      @psionicinversion:disqus]

      OMG I played Fallout 3 a few times, started new characters. The gun mechanics were 100% sh*t when you ran out of VATS. I hear Fallout 4 won’t be as bad, so I may give it a try.

    • Zarbor

      You do realize the better Fallout 4 game is on the XB1 with mods. You Sony only gamers are funny. Bet you wouldn’t be saying the same thing is ROTR was coming out on the PS4 the same time.

      I could careless what is going to help XB1 or PS4. They don’t make money for me so as long as they have games, I’m in on whatever system. As we can see, every multiplatform game has and is coming out on both so only fanboys really care about which one is selling more consoles than the other. It’s some of the most idiotic comments I’ve ever seen in gaming. Talking more about the consoles than the games.

      Just got Forza 6 and its clearly the best sim racing game this gen. 1080p and 60fps which many claimed couldn’t be done on the machine. Halo 5 is going to be the same as well and looking impressive. Guess the haters will have to find something else to discuss besides resolution. The last TR played great. Tons of people bought it and this one is going to be even better. As a gamer, if these games pan out and one already has in Forza, 2015 exclusives will be miles better on my XB1.

      Its funny that saying that bother some many of you. Why? You are afraid to admit that the XB1 may have better games than the console you own? For us multi-console owners, it looking like that will be true but why should PS4 only gamers care. They have a ton of great games already, right, well according to themselves. Great. Go enjoy those games. Why would you even mention TR or Halo 5 since those games aren’t going to help MS anyways? Right….

    • DarthDiggler

      @zarbor1:disqus

      You do realize the better Fallout 4 game is on the XB1 with mods.

      Mods will come to Fallout 4 on PS4 as well. PS3 had mods for Unreal Tournament, nothing about the PSN really prevents Mods. Todd Howard of Bethesda already confirmed this.

      This, according to Howard, means there is more time that can be spent on ideas. Like transferring user-developed ‘mods’ to console for the first time. “We’ve wanted to do that for a while,” says Howard. “We architecture our system so that mods work. They work on Skyrim if you can get them on a console, Oblivion aswell. And Fallout 3. But there’s no way of getting them there. There’s still a lot of work to do. It’s going to come out on PC first, then they’ll move to Xbox One, then to PS4. There is a lot of work involved getting them onto each system.”

      Todd Howard, Bethesda
      SOURCE: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/what-to-play/fallout-4-interview-bethesda-todd-howard-on-building-the-apocalypse/

      I know many Xbox fans were thinking Mods would be Xbox One only, but as Todd Howard points out, that isn’t true.

      You Sony only gamers are funny. Bet you wouldn’t be saying the same thing is ROTR was coming out in the PS4 the same time.

      I appreciate the compliment that Sony only gamers have a superior sense of humor! 🙂

      ROTR isn’t going to turn around Microsoft’s failures with the Xbox One. I don’t mind waiting for it on PS4 it will likely have a better frame rate or higher resolution — maybe both! 🙂 I have plenty on my plate to keep me occupied this holiday season. Like I said earlier even if MS does best Sony this holiday with the Xbox One, the PS4 sales would have to go idle (ie: sell zero units) for months for MS to catch up any time soon.

      I could careless what is going to help XB1 or PS4. They don’t make money for me so as long as they have games, I’m in on whatever system. As we can see, every multiplatform game has and is coming out on both so only fanboys really care about which one is selling more consoles than the other. It’s some of the most idiotic comments I’ve ever seen in gaming. Talking more about the consoles than the games.

      See you are not being intellectually honest here.

      There is a difference between a fanboy and brand loyalty. A fanboy will say anything to support their console. A fan who is loyal to a brand is far more pragmatic.

      Also I completely disregard this notion that you have to own all systems in order to be a “true” gamer. I own a PS4 and I don’t see any need to get Xbox One. Buying an Xbox One would mean that I have $350 less to spend on games.

      Just got Forza 6 and its clearly the best sim racing game this gen. 1080p and 60fps which many claimed couldn’t be done on the machine.

      Forza has definitely come a long way, but enjoy the limelight while you have it. Gran Turismo will always best Forza. There are few developers with the kind of passion that Kazunori Yamauchi demonstrates. He has been working on the series for nearly 20 years.

      They were doing 1080i with Gran Turismo 4 on PlayStation 2. 🙂

      I wasn’t that shocked that Forza ran 1080p, the 60fps stat was a bit surprising. That level of performance is far from standard on Xbox One….

      http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

      Halo 5 is going to be the same as well and looking impressive. Guess the haters will have to find something else to discuss besides resolution.

      The sad fact is MS is kind of backed into a 1080p 60fps corner now. If they aren’t releasing games Exclusively that endeavors for that performance threshold there will be internet ire over it.

      I would hope that MS could make their exclusive titles look great and play great. Sony has always done that.

      The last TR played great. Tons of people bought it and this one is going to be even better.

      It was decent, best Tomb Raider game in a long time but wasn’t an Uncharted killer IMHO. Critics didn’t deem it an Uncharted killer either. Funny thing is that Tomb Raider reboot sold better on PlayStation.

      http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tomb+Raider+%282013%29

      As a gamer, if these games pan out and one already has in Forza, 2015 exclusives will be miles better on my XB1.

      MS has a minor advantage with exclusives at the moment, but Sony really hasn’t revealed what all their studios are up to. The console wars are a marathon not a sprint. Sony has a huge lead and they haven’t hardly tapped into their First Party Studios. I think 2016 is going to be tougher for MS.

      I am not sure what you mean by “miles” better on XB1. You are really starting to sound like a cheerleaderand not someone making a reasonable, intelligent argument.

      Its funny that saying that bother some many of you. Why? You are afraid to admit that the XB1 may have better games than the console you own?

      I am not afaid to admit anything. I would rather buy $350 worth of PS4 games than buy an Xbox One for 2 games that I am not all that jazzed to play. I don’t think this is fanboyish, it is a cost effective strategy.

      For us multi-console owners, it looking like that will be true but why should PS4 only gamers care. They have a ton of great games already, right, well according to themselves. Great. Go enjoy those games.

      You are really trying to have your cake and eat it too aren’t you?

      On one hand you get up on your soap box and position yourrself to be “better than us” because you own multiple systems. Yet you only have kind words for the Xbox One. Did you buy the PS4 just so you can deem it junk? LOL Seriously your words really betray you here. I don’t believe you own both systems. You don’t demonstrate any hardware agnostic thoughts in your comments and you are VERY pro-Xbox. So much so it doesn’t sound like you are a PlayStation guy at all. If the PS4 exclusives are so terrible — why did you waste your money on a PS4?

      Why would you even mention TR or Halo 5 since those games aren’t going to help MS anyways? Right….

      Do you really expect Tomb Raider and Halo to move 15-20 million Xbox One consoles over the holiday and crown MS the console kind again?

      Seriously if you believe that you are delusional.

    • Domiddian

      Expertly deconstructed. Though you’ll probably be shown the door for citing VGChartz as a source. Even so, that was an entertaining read 🙂

  • PachterStation

    All this gen consoles have been thin on quality games, including new franchises. Some games sell consoles, but it terms of the Xbox One catching the PS4, it’s a tall order. Sony probably couldn’t care less about timed exclusives on the Xbox One. Sales figures suggest that not enough are people moving over to the Xbox One. No matter what’s going on out there, the PS4 keeps going.

    • Psionicinversion

      Xbox is actually selling very well compared to the 360 in the same time frame. Just that ps4 is doing alot better when there’s really not much reason why it’s doing well

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      There are plenty of reasons why it’s doing well.

    • XbotMK1

      The Xbox 360 shipped about 10 million it’s first year, same as Xbox One. Microsoft is trying to say Xbox One is doing better than the Xbox 360 but I guarantee they are just stretching the truth. Worldwide Xbox One is not doing much better than the Xbox 360. In the U.S the Xbox One is doing a bit better than the Xbox 360 did, but worse everywhere else. But regardless, your comment is nothing but damage control that had nothing to do with his comment.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      At this point in the life cycle of the XB1 it is selling better than 360 plain and simple, ya first year perhaps your right but right now as a total XB1 is doing better than 360.

    • Hvd

      and as i try to tell all these sony fanboys.its not loosing money like the ps4 is.its all profit for microsoft.

    • Domiddian

      The Xbox One costs more to make than the PS4 and yet MS are selling it for $50 less. How are they making a profit and Sony not?

      You only have to look at the Playstation division’s quarterly earnings to know that what you’re saying is total BS.

      Your are a silly, blind fanboy. Stop crying and give up already. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

    • Hvd

      because they dont LOOSE MONEY on every console sold.you are just an ignorant fanboy.the evidence is right in front of you and you are still in denial.thats ignorance.there reports doesnt include their losses just profit.dont be ignorant .

    • MyNameIsX

      “there reports doesnt include their losses just profit.”

      Dear, oh dear. That is probably one of the dųmbest things I have read in a long while. I don’t even need to try and make you look stupìd, you’re doing it yourself.

      And the only ignorant fanboy here is you.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      The PS4 is not loosing money, Sony’s been making profit on everyone sold since May 2014! So your dead wrong.
      http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/23/sony-hirai-ps4-profit/

    • Hvd

      its not hard to see except to ignorant fanboys,.

    • Hvd

      you can google it they arnt stretching it.compare sales xbox 360 to xbox one.google is your friend.

    • This Guy

      Why am I not surprised to see you here TrollbotMK1. You know for the most part the comments on this thread have been generally civil, then you show up. Come on, tell me, what are your sources to argue the sales figures?

    • MyNameIsX

      There are plenty of reasons why the PS4 is doing better.

      1. Playstation is a global powerhouse of a brand. Xbox is not.
      2. It’s available – and far more popular – in far more countries
      3. Microsoft’s 2013 E3 press conference
      4. Initial overpricing of X1, plus forcing of Kinect
      5. PS4 is seen as more powerful and multiplatform games do tend to run slightly better on PS4
      6. Most of the games people want are available on both consoles
      7. The PS4 was marketed as a pure gaming system, the Xbox as a media centre. It’s quite obvious now what most people wanted
      8. The PS4 gained early momentum and that’s now steamrolling into people wanting to buy what their friends have.

      I’m not dissing the Xbox One; it’s a great console and it’s games lineup over the next few months is far superior to the PS4s, but I think too many people put too much stock in exclusive games when the reality is they matter less and less these days. The biggest franchises are multi-platform.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      Plus:
      RLOD from 360, pissed a lot of people off who had to buy two or more of those things
      PS3 was killing it at it’s end of life compared to 360 with exclusives, and that momentum rolled into PS4
      PS4 is a really good system, so is XB1 but someone’s gotta be 2nd place?

    • MyNameIsX

      Good points.

      And I agree. They’re both good systems. I own both, but I must admit I spend most of my time on PS4. Just prefer the UI and game pad, plus I get most multi-plats on that system, but still love the X1.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      I have PS4 , but for now I patiently play XB1 at friends house while drinking all his pints, awaiting the Bundle with Quantum Break, but do prefer game pad and UI also over XB1’s but think that will change with UI update, hopefully it will have a faster menu response. I like the feel of XB1 controller except for shoulder buttons just “feel” like they are in the wrong place?

    • MyNameIsX

      I love the X1 pad and for me it would be on par with the DS4 except for the D-pad positioning (it feels awkward for fighting games) and yes, the shoulder buttons feel a little over-stretched. And yes, i hope the UI is improved with the update, but even now I don’t think it’s as bad as some people make out. It’s just not as intuitive as the PS4 UI.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      Hum D-pad really never bothered me, but I have never played a fighting game on XB1.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      Most of your points are spot. On point 5 I would not say that most games run better, they actually are 1080p over 900p, but the frame rate favors the XB1.

      You point on 7 it has been the perception that some people still has, but if you think about it the xbox will have more exclusives while having access to the same multiplat games of the ps4.

      At this point in time Sony has the upper hand and does not need to do anything and it has not. They have used marketting way more effective than MS, and while the XBx1 is selling better than the 360, its sales look not so impressive compared to the ps4.

    • MyNameIsX

      I disagree on point 5. The majority of multi-platform games have both a higher resolution and better frame rate on PS4. It’s just because of a few poor optimisation issues on a couple of high profile releases (Witcher 3, AC: Unity for example) which has caused people to have this perception that Xbox frame rates are superior in ALL games when that’s just completely false. After the latest patch, Witcher 3 actually performs better on PS4 in both cases. Also, a lot of open world games such as GTA V and Witcher 3 display less detail such as foliage etc. on the X1 versions.

      On point 7, the Xbox One has more “console” exclusives at the moment, but it’s going to be a long “war”. PS4 is already gearing up to have a stellar 2016, so… time will tell.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      It is fine, however i go by i have read on the DF performance. Not only the Witcher 3, and Unity but also more games like Zombi, BO3 (beta), Batman, etc. Perhaps the lower resolution but the frame rate was smoother on XB1.

      Dont get me wrong, I do not dislike the ps4 at all, i just play more on my XB1 and so far the only game I am waiting for on the ps4 is Uncharted 4.

    • MyNameIsX

      I have both myself and like them both for different reasons,
      but I mostly play multi-plats on the PS4. I can’t say I have noticed much of a difference in performance at all, but then I wouldn’t buy the same game on both consoles. As I said, there are a few releases that run smoother on X1 (obviously more than just Witcher 3 and Unity, but they were the ones that came to mind at the time), but there are also loads of games that run at higher frame rates on PS4; COD Ghosts and Advanced Warfare, Tomb Raider DE, Battlefield, Dragon Age to name a few.

      I’m not saying the Xbox doesn’t perform better in some games
      – and I would put that down to poor optimisation or the fact that PS4 versions usually push more detail rather than something the PS4 is lacking – I’m just saying that the perception of X1 having better frame rate performance overall is false – it definitely isn’t either/or. So yes, the X1 does run some games better, but for the majority of games, the frame rates are either equal or swing slightly in the PS4s favour.

      In any case, the difference between both consoles in graphics performance isn’t enough to warrant making your choice of console based on that factor alone and my point 5 wasn’t to say the PS4 was more powerful, just that it is “perceived” as more powerful.

    • Evil_Annie_2015

      I totally respect your point of view. I have both as well, but I play more on my XB1. However, I respect people who has valid points of view. I kniw a lot of friends who prefer the ps4 over the XB1, and they have a valid reason.

    • Rhodri

      The Xbox One will catch up in terms of performance with DirectX 12. Mad Max doesn’t even use it and it performs better on Xbox.

    • MyNameIsX

      I’ll believe it when I see it. Software can only do so much. The fact still remains that the hardware in the PS4 is stronger. Whichever you you try to spin it, nothing changes that fact.

    • Rhodri

      I am not trying to spin facts. The Xbox One was designed for DirectX 12(FACT), the PS4 may be stronger but with the new API it may be possible to perform better than PS4. “50%” more powerful gpu doesn’t not translate to actual performance in game.The ps3 was stronger than the xbox 360 but you see how that turned out.

      http://videogamesandnews.com/phil-spencer-say-directx-12-wont-help-xbox-one/

    • MyNameIsX

      The PS3 was not stronger than the 360 at all, it had a weaker GPU. It’s CPU was far stronger, but it’s the GPU which matters and the 360 performed better in multi platform games because of that.

      You’re talking about DX12 as if it will be some miracle, but all it does is optimise how the GPU allocates its resources. And you seem to dismiss the fact that Sony will be working on its own optimisation tools, which will also allow the PS4 to run better over time. Not only that, but the X1 will always be more complicated to program for due to the eSRAM bridge.

      I’m sorry, but there’s only so much you can due to tune a car engine, but it will still always be the same engine which will be limited by it’s original specifications.

    • Rhodri

      You just ignored everything I said. I never said that it would be some miracle YOU did. A miracle would be some thing like 4k 60fps. I said the the xbox one was built with directx 12 in mind and judging by your reaction you did not read the article.
      Also the differences are marginal now what happens when directx 12 starts getting used. Plus they are putting out tools to provide better performance to the esram than before.

    • actually the traditional gpu is the ps3 was a crutch as the custom hardware to handle graphics was hard to code to. In fact it wasn’t originally going to have a gpu. And the primary graphics engine was indeed more powerful and latter on it really began to show it.

    • Umm dx12 will just mean the api is more similar to what ps4 already has, end of the day ps4 has more gpu horsepower and more asyc compute units to make up for reduced cpu power. (Though they are now unlocking a core on ps4)

    • omarcominyo

      I’ve just downloaded Tomb Raider on Xone(after previously playing it on PS4) and the framerate is noticeably worse straight away! Will the next one go the same way I wonder!

  • Psionicinversion

    Sony has no choice but to wait, there nothing they can do about it so they shouldn’t be concerned but hey at least they definately got a game coming next year

  • justerthought

    Well if I have to wait a year, I might as well wait 2 years for the price to come down so I can punish the dev for stabbing the loyal fans in the back in order to take a corrupt bribe. I am determined not to let them make a profit out of such abuse. I’ll buy it at a lower price or buy it second hand so they get nothing off me.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      Or better yet buy a used copy if your so concerned.

    • Starman

      better yet , stop fanboying and get an xbox1 or are you too broke … if not stfu and stop complaining …

    • This Guy

      Do you feel the same way about the Street Fighter V FULL exclusive deal that Capcom signed with Sony despite the support they got from the 360 owners?

      How about the heavily delayed Destiny DLC and marketing rights Sony signed with Activision?

      How about the GTA exclusive deals that Sony had on the PS2 years ago or how Sony stole Final Fantasy from Nintendo even further back then that.

      Every gen Sony has been signing checks towards exclusive deals, they just had a harder time doing it last gen because of the immense install base of the 360 and also that MS were using Sony’s strategy against them. Don’t go throwing around your shaming finger at MS for things Sony have been doing for years.

    • MyNameIsX

      Yep, as far back as Doom on the PSX. Sony stopped it from coming out on the Sega Saturn for a whole year.

    • This Guy

      Oh yeah I forgot about that one. Man everyone wags their finger at MS when Sony are the pioneers of exclusive “bribes”.

    • MyNameIsX

      Not sure why people scald MS and not Sony. The ROTR deal is only timed. Sony has literally bought the SF franchise for this gen. Why is that acceptable? I prefer my PS4 to my Xbox One generally, though both are great, but even I can see the hypocrisy here. Things like this are just bad for gaming IMO. Only the gamers lose out.

  • Sol Pro

    you sony cry babies need to get over it. xbox stole your girl lara croft cuz she knew sony was lame. now all the homies are getting a piece of dat *** but u guys can have her back after we done

    • MyNameIsX

      Nobody is crying. Bye bye.

    • Ucouldntbemorewrong

      HAHA after were done with UC4, and LC will be cheaper with all the DCL packed in, OK sounds fine by me! Well at least you can play Street Fighter 5 after LC…Oh?

  • Starman

    “not concerned” lol yeah he is … salty all who have a sony only thing going , are salty , and stop acting like you’re not ..
    you have nothing to really look forward to … not even those 1990’s style lame @$$ remakes and old remasters coming next year …
    ps: my caps lock is broke “kiss my @$$

  • Rise of The SicGamer

    The reason playstation owners couldn’t care less is they get the best of both worlds, fallout 4 releases same week as tombraider witch is sweet because who wants to fork out for two games in one week, then there’s unchartered4 after the holiday witch beats tombraider hands down anyway, then they still get tombraider definitive edition next year lol best of everything


 

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