PS4 Games Won’t Be Gimped, ‘Definitely’ Receive Better Exclusives & Multiplatform Games

All due to competition.

Posted By | On 02nd, Sep. 2014 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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There is often a misconception that developers gimp superior platform so that they can do justice to another platform which is less powerful. The PlayStation 4 has been mostly touted as a more powerful platform compared to the Xbox One, however this does not mean the system has better games than the latter. But that discussion is for another day.

In an interview with 10tons’ PR Coordinator and Producer, Jaakko Maaniemi, GamingBolt asked whether they see developers using the extra GDDR5 RAM and more GPU compute to churn better exclusive and multiplatform games on the PS4.

“Definitely, simply due to competition,” he said to GamingBolt. “Especially AAA titles will just need to start reaching for the boundaries and then pushing them, simply because some of them will do that and the rest can’t afford to stay far behind.”

Jaakko also spoke about their perspective for Crimsonland and how high end tablets are actually offering higher resolution than the PS4. “Our perspective is quite different, as we indeed target a very wide range of platforms, all the way down to mobile. High end mobile is very capable these days though, and the hardware is refreshed a couple of times a year.”

“I’m not sure if many people realize it, but resolutions far exceeding the 1080p PS4 is practically capable of are quite plentiful in mobile. High end tablets have 2560×1600 screens, for example. That’s a lot of pixels.”

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  • DA-ROOSTER

    The PS4 is sooo powerful but can’t run battlefield 4, battlefield Hardline, Watch Dogs, Witcher 3, Killzone shadow fall multiplayer, EA’s UFC above 900p, Lmfao

    • jayflow

      I guess the same could be said about the one too!?!? Minus Killzone.

    • Антон Иванов

      Yeah but open world multiplatform MGS5 runs at 1080p 60fps on PS4, deal with it

    • hanerynicola

      I just got paid

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    • Michael Norris

      Yet your precious Xbone can’t handle 900P.

    • DA-ROOSTER

      You still drinking the Sony hype train coolade, the power of the PS4 is just all hype and no bite, it struggles to run games at 1080p just like the Xbox One,

    • Антон Иванов

      open world multiplatform MGS5 runs at 1080p 60fps on PS4, deal with it

    • Psionicinversion

      watchdogs 900p with far more heavy focus on physics and simulations in the background that the consoles simply cant handle

    • Kayoss860

      Do you even think before you type everything that you listed? All the games you listed are third party games (Except Killzone). Its not Sony’s fault that EA got lazy and did not use the console resources to its full potential. How do you explain Sony’s first party studios games far exceeding any third party games? Like Michael Norris said, you sound like a MORON!

      Now lets make list of all Xbox one games and Nintendo game. I’m pretty sure it will take you while, because the list goes on and on and on. Good Luck!

    • DA-ROOSTER

      PS4 cannot run battlefield4, battlefield Hardline, Witcher 3, Killzone shadow fall multiplayer higher than 900p it’s not the developers fault heck Killzone shadow fall is a first party game,the point is PS4 also struggles to run games at 1080p

    • Антон Иванов

      open world multiplatform MGS5 runs at 1080p 60fps on PS4, deal with it

    • DA-ROOSTER

      Yet the almighty PS4 can’t run a simple open world game like Watch Dogs above 900 30fps

    • razrye

      Neither can the xbox. So your point is?

    • DLConspiracy//

      Heard that already.

    • phar0ahad3

      Most of these games arent confirmed for low resolution like witcher and hardline,

    • andy

      And the Xbone is sooo weak that it can’t run last gen/cross gen games like AC IV, COD Ghosts, Thief, Plants Vs Zombies GW, MGS V GZ, Trials Fusion, Titanfall, Metro Redux at even 30fps and 1080p. What is your point again lol?

    • DA-ROOSTER

      My point is both the Xbox One and PS4 are just midrange PCs, arguing over 1080p 60fps resolution is pointless, because both consoles struggles to run games at 1080p 60fps

    • Edonus

      Actually this argument is silly on both counts….. the problem is you guys are trying to use isolated examples as proof of what these systems can do and not there full library.

      Both of these consoles can run games 1080p 60fps they both have. There is no such thing as struggling to hit 1080p either you do or you dont and truth is its a BS stat to hit anyway. The frame rate should be being discussed way more.

      Anyway the short comings of these consoles performance right now (if that is what you want to call it) is all based on the developers and time constraints. It has nothing to do with power…. most of these games are just ports from last gen they arent even using that many new engines specific to the new gen and its capabilities. Using BF4 as proof of what these systems will be able to do going forward is stupid.

    • rudero

      The point is for the money, the ps4 is running those games at the best that they can be done on a gaming console and any PC for $399.99.
      PC is the Ferrari for hardcore specs… the console gamers want the best bang for the buck.

    • razrye

      Still more powerful than the xbox. Deal with it.

    • demfax

      BF4, Watch Dogs, KZ Shadowfall – Launch multiplats

      EA sports games – not well coded on either console

      BF Hardline, Witcher 3 – NOT CONFIRMED, THESE GAMES HAVE NOT LAUNCHED YET. YOU ARE LYING AND MALICIOUS

  • andy

    Eh I think games like MGS 5 GZ, and most games released to date, prove this fact without a shadow of a doubt. And a game like Destiny is proof that if Xbone can hit 1080p, no wonder it doesn’t look technically impressive at all.

  • Yojimbo

    Yep tablets have higher res but under the hood they are much less powerful. Can tablets do Skyrim? Grand theft auto 5? Destiny? Wow? Advanced warfare? Until that day comes, until that day where controls and true skill are necessary tablets will always sadly be ‘casual’. So for the time being true adrenalin, strategic, skillful, mass open world, big budget story telling will be on consoles and pcs. Tablets are fun tho for the kids and mums!!

  • DA-ROOSTER

    I see that the Sony-ponies are out in droves today okay here’s my question to you, if the PS4 is sooo powerful as Sony says it is, why aren’t all games 1080p natively on the PS4, because there are many games that aren’t 1080p on the PS4

    • DLConspiracy//

      As long as its marginally better than the Xbox their fight is won. That’s their point. Most will even tout its as strong as a high end PC. Mainly because of media.

    • DA-ROOSTER

      Thank you finally an intelligent reply

    • DLConspiracy//

      Seem more obvious than intelligent. I get called all sorts of names and own both consoles and a higher end PC. Apparently I am not allowed opinion online.

    • I honestly don’t get why it’s such a big deal this generation. XB360 was also a less powerful machine but it had better games imo than the PS3, just like this generation will likely have.

    • DLConspiracy//

      I think the price of last gen really upset people now that its flipped people want something to feel they are smart consumers. When in reality they are both just consoles. Regardless if one is more powerful.

    • My theory is that gamers this generation are just more whiny and think they are entitled. It’s unbelievable how much trash talk there is this gen vs the last decade. Probably has to do something with the millennial’s or the generation right after them thinking that they’re anonymous so they can be as abusive as they want to be…

    • DLConspiracy//

      While I agree I generally try to avoid saying that because it always seems to rotate back to the internet as a whole. People like to back their horse. Especially kids. Not saying all gamers are kids of course but it is a subject they might grasp more than tech. I enjoy them both but I lean because of my preferences. I am perfectly OK with a “less powerful” machine if that machine does more for my games. If it doesn’t I usually go PC. I always hear people say “remember last gen? Well I never forgot” as if that’s a good reason to be a jerk. I was judged yesterday for saying I thought TLoU would have sold more its first month than it did. When I meant it as a compliment on Dualshockers.

    • Yeah, I don’t like generalities either, but in this case there is something definitely different and it wasn’t this bad last gen. People are more verbally abusive, they don’t value other people’s difference of opinions, it a lot of us vs them regardless of the platform, and it’s gotten to be a real pain. I’m glad there are 1300+ developers though trying to bring some sense to the madness by signing an open letter condemning hate/angry speech and abusive/harassing speech. Hopefully that reminds people that in the end this is about what’s fun.

    • DLConspiracy//

      The internet is just a toxic place these days. We are a generation later in the internet and narcissism is the currency of self worth on these boards. The only way to end it is to hold each party accountable from both sides. Or all 4 sides. The community seems to be at large. Although, there is the classic “Vocal Minority” line people use. It still is affecting everything as a whole. Unfortunately it’s like Jerry Springer online lately.

    • That’s why I use my name on all the bbs’es, lol. Anonymity permits rampant misbehavior unfortunately :/

    • DLConspiracy//

      Same here. I have 2. One I used to use on IGN and this one. Which just so happens to be the SAME name as that one only with two “//”. I only did that because IGN makes it separate from Disqus.

    • d0x360

      Except the 360 wasn’t less powerful. It had a GPU that at launch was not only a generation ahead of ps3 but also a generation ahead of PC. All modern GPUs are based on the design of the 360 GPU.

      The 360 also had unified memory and embedded ram on the GPU die and its memory pipelines had less bottlenecks than ps3.

      The ps3 in theory has a better CPU unfortunately there is no easy way to benchmark it against the 360 CPU. 360 went with 3 PPC cores and the ps3 used a single PPC core with spu’s. The spu’s were good for some things and horrible for others. Ps3 exclusives that were fantastic looking generally used simple geometry but highly detailed textures to counter act it. For example the last of us looks excellent on ps3 but everything in the game world is made of simple shapes with the exception of the models.

      There are plenty of high level write ups that compare the performance and they generally end up agreeing that in the end performance is about equal between the two since each has positive and negative aspects to design but the 360 makes it much much easier to get results.

      There is a reason the ps4 and xb1 both use the same basic design architecture which originated in the Xbox 360.

    • Ryo Shenmue

      Yes, the 360 was less powerful.

    • d0x360

      Alright, not gonna argue. Not really important. Ps3 wins!

    • That’s the first time I’ve ever heard it presented that way. I was always under the impression the Cell processor was more advanced and powerful due to it’s custom 8 or 6 core architecture but difficult to program for since no one really used parallel processing and multi-threaded processing back then?

    • d0x360

      It has a single traditional CPU core but it has synergistic processing units that aid it. They are amazing at crunching numbers but they aren’t general purpose like a normal CPU.

      Its a very advanced piece of hardware that has mind blowing performance at higher scales for data crunching. Unfortunately its not ideal for gaming.
      If it was “better” we would have seen it adopted more widely.

      It is better than the 360 CPU to some extent but at the same time the 360 CPU is more versatile. Its really hard to compare them.

    • Well, I think it was more expensive and hard to program for which many developers disliked which is another reason why so many developers were praising the PS4 this gen.

      I can see how the 360 would be more versatile though if everyone knew how to flex its muscles…

    • d0x360

      There were 2 reasons it was difficult. The big one was it was new. Cell forced them yo think differently about how they coded games but it took time to really figure out. The good news is it also helped devs get more out of traditional multicore architecture which benefited everyone.

      Secondly the SDK and Dev tools where lacking good instructions for quite a while but again due to how different cell was that’s to be expected. Even Sony’s internal teams had to figure out the best ways to use the technology.
      That’s why as more time went on the difference between quality in 360 and ps3 games got smaller and smaller. The ps3 had the ability to make up for the shortcomings in its GPU it just took developers a while to figure it all out.

      The only Dev who really had issues that were never solved was Bethesda. They used the gamebryo engine and it leaned heavy on ram but it didn’t always need lots in certain areas. With the 360 they could easily give the GPU 70% of memory when needed or 65% to the CPU. Since the ps3 split its pool right down the middle it was 256 to each no matter what. That’s why skyrim and fallout have frame rate issues and crazy bugs that build up the longer you play. The game is trying to keep track of Basically an infinite number of variables so it might need to dedicated more ram to the CPU during certain times but it couldn’t so it was constantly dumping things from memory then having to reload them again and again which eats CPU time which lead to slowdown in the frame rate because instead of focusing on whatever is happening at that moment its always doing that on top of purging memory and loading objects back in.

      Really Bethesda was stupid for using gamebryo. Its an ancient engine that was buckling under the weight of morrowind. They tweaked a lot of skyrim but the basic underpinnings of the engine were never going to change. It won’t matter much anymore from a performance perspective cause new consoles have enough memory but hopefully from a gameplay (and bug) perspective they make an custom engine for their future open world games. Cause really that old code is the basis for every complaint leveled at those series.

      Gamebryo…blech

    • Guest

      The Cell is more powerful than the Xenon, fact! it can do over 200 GFlops vs a little over 100 GFlops for the Xenon. The problem is that it was a very unorthodox design making it very difficult (well at first), basically it was a CPU with GPU like functions.

    • Guest

      And yet the PS3 still looked graphically better than the 360. And most of what you said is nonsense. GPUs were already heading in the unified pipe route, it wasn’t because of the 360. And the Cell is a lot more powerful than the Xenon. It could actually do graphics rendering, like triangles/geometry. And you talk of PS3 having “simple geometry”, yet show me one 360 game with more complex geometry. And the list goes on. You’re a very deluded person.

    • Durka Durka

      hey i am gathering people to exposde demfax and ban him from disquss and psn once and for all.

      Could you please give me his psn?

    • Ryo Shenmue

      Xbox 360 games better than PS3? Are you drunk? I had both but i had to sell my 360 in 2010 because no decent games were coming out for it. The best 360 exclusive was Mass Effect(which i bought the console for in 2007) and they lost that too.

    • Call it a difference of opinion, the only franchise I liked on PS3 was Uncharted, and even then wasn’t amazed by all the hype even though it was very good. On 360 I played Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Mass Effect, Fallout 3, and more.

      The only other PS exclusive franchise I really adored was The Force Unleashed when it first debuted.

      That said, I have about 15-20 games on both platforms but the XB exclusives were really that much better imo. PS3 had a lot more variety but it didn’t cater to what I wanted to play. I don’t find brawlers, survival horror, or Little Big Planet fun so there wasn’t much on there for me that I enjoyed.

      Total sales revenue numbers for XB360 software continue to be higher also than PS3 games. Another more established metric by which to judge popularity of games…

    • Jessika S.

      Only 15 -20 on both you barely played anything and The Force Unleashed and The Force Unleashed II was not a PS3 exclusive it was also out on Xbox 360 and the Wii.

    • My life doesn’t revolve entirely around games 🙂

      As for TFU, I thought it was only PS3? My mistake. I just remember at launch George Lucas said only the PS3 could handle the type of physics and fx they demoed at the time. Must have come out a year or two after…

    • Jessika S.

      My life also doesn’t revolve around games but in between the years they where released till now I managed to accumulate more then just 15 -20 games. I have 15 -20 on Xbox One and PS4 now.

      The Force Unleashed was released at the same time on all platforms September 16, 2008.

    • Wow, that is still a lot to me considering they have only been out a year. I only have Titanfall, Metal Gear Solid GZ, Watch Dogs, and Ryse. Do you beat all your games or just play a little bit of all of them?

    • Jessika S.

      Those are great games, I’ll watch reviews and I’ll pick them up but if they don’t intrigue me I’ll stop playing them after a while. How about you?

    • I make sure I like the game based on trailers/previews/reviews/etc also and then I beat everything I buy. I feel bad if I don’t after spending all that money on them, lol. I prefer story based games, never really into random objectives which is probably why I’m not into a lot of the variety PS offers as a platform. Still, hoping The Order lives up to the hype, but all the gameplay shown and reviewed thus far has depicted it as lacking :/

    • Jessika S.

      I usually don’t care what platform a game is on, I also pick up games games like CoD and Battlefield on both because of family and friends. If the reviews say it looks better on a certain system then thats the one I buy to me the controllers don’t make a difference either.

      I never want to feel like I’m missing out on something, I don’t beat everything and I’m ok with that it doesn’t bother me. I like everything driving, fighting, story based and a variety of multiplayer games. I’m still a casual gamer LOL! I play when I have time or in the mood.

    • Yeah, I don’t like playing everything. I tried a few racing, fighting and basketball games last gen but never really played it after the initial few games so I stopped buying them. I did beat Soul Calibur with every character, but that’s an exception. For me story is key, a great story makes it a must buy most of the time…

    • Guest

      They are both at like 10-11 games per system sold, but nice try spewing that old nonsense that hasn’t been true in a long time. Heck, even VGChartz, a very pro MS, site will tell you that. And the PS4 is spanking the X1 when it comes to software sales.

    • DLConspiracy//

      It’s fair to have an opinion though is it not? No need to call people drunk. We are also in a new generation that has barely even started. PS3 didn’t get it’s legs until 2-3 years after it’s release.

    • Agent_Blade

      Things are different this time and alot of people forget that. 360 and ps3 had different architectures and the cell engine was hard to develop for. However this generation is different. These consoles have a very similar architecture and that’s one of the biggest reason why it is such a big deal

    • In my opinion as long as it looks better than last generation and it plays great I don’t really care.

    • Guest

      You’re crazy if you think the 360 had better games, PS3 had MUCH better games than 360. And btw, I started off on the 360 and still own it.

    • rudero

      I see the boners with their ‘Sony-ponies” are out as well.
      Its not that the ps4 is “sooo powerful” its just that it is more powerful than its competition for its price.

    • The_Hero

      The real enhancements are not just from games performing better. But better hardware will allow developers to achieve better visual fidelity.
      Visual Fidelity far exceeds resolution. Just look at the remastered GTA V compared to last gen.

    • rxl209

      you sound like you dont know very much about gaming so ill answer your question, because its possible to optimize games in a way that 700p or 900p look better than 1080p. you could set pc games to 4k but if you set textures to low it will look like dogshit. as an xtwat its really the worst argument you can make considering its a far weaker system

    • phar0ahad3

      The PS3 was extremeley powerful for its time with the cell processor does that mean that every game was 1080p 60fps on it……………..no they werent you can have something as powerful as it i but if the devs dont utilize it then theres no way around that especially because microsoft and EA are buddy buddy Two of the most evil companies in america will never do whats right.

    • DA-ROOSTER

      EA & MICROSOFT are evil companies? Yet Sony’s PlayStation Now rental service charges consumers insane prices, PlayStation Now is the biggest scam in the gaming industry but it’s okay cause it’s Sony right right

    • razrye

      Playstation now prices are not set.

    • DLConspiracy//

      Well its still not a great deal yet. Sony is a corp just like MS is. I think that’s his point.

    • Ryo Shenmue

      PS Now is a BETA, just look at all the great discounts Sony has been offering on the PSN. Microsoft is crap from that point of view and well…EA…let’s just not talk about them.

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    • razrye

      Maybe because it is taking developers a while to get used to the hardware. Like every console. Also because the ps4 is easier to program for, giving out better results than the xbox 1.

    • Ryo Shenmue

      That’s because not all the teams are capable enough or have enough resources to push their engines to the max. Apparently, Naughty Dog is having no problems at all with Uncharted 4 at 1080p and 60fps(and they’re not only a talented team but they also have the resources).

    • Psionicinversion

      are you stupid, they said they are TRYING to target 60 fps. if they cant even get it consistent on TLOU which should look alot worse than uncharted 4 i dont see how they can

    • Guest

      Oh STFU you bot, Sony fanboys don’t think the PS4 is this powerhouse, if anything its the bots that are delusional about how powerful or rather weak their X1 is. And you sit there and talk ish about the PS4 not doing 1080p on every game (even though we are talking about 3 just games), yet the X1 can even match the PS4 and has quite few games than run at a even lower last gen res of 720p. So shut it cuz you sound stupid, with your stupid points. But then again you’d have to be stupid to sweat MS. No matter how much you xbots try and prove that the PS4 is that powerful, its still more powerful than the X1, so whats that say about your precise X1?

    • DA-ROOSTER

      PS4 has 15 games that runs at 900p the Xbox One has 30 games that runs at 900p so both consoles struggle to run games at 1080p, so stop blaming developers and take off your PlayStation blinders

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Letter to the PS4’s fan club, saying that your console can only run a few more games not all but only a few more games at 1080p more than the competition isn’t a legitimate claim to console superiority, the PS4 would have to run all games at 1080p to achieve this status and obviously it doesn’t

  • GHz

    Good one Rashid! 😀

    Bookmark this article for when Destiny finally comes and runs near identical on both platforms.

  • Dirkster_Dude

    The comment about tablets having a higher pixel count is great, but since they aren’t expected to produce the pixels on large screen you don’t use as many. In other words 1080p on a 46-inch HDTV is a lot different than 1080p on a 9-inch screen in terms of processing. I suspect the tablet would choke. Some tablets having a higher resolution is nice, but more or less a gimmick as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think I will give up my console just yet for tablet gaming.

    • Edonus

      Its all a gimmick. The problem is like most gimmicks there is also a real world element to it so it paint everything gray and when things are gray what is or is not important is a matter of were you stand and want perception to go.
      For instance I am a person that understands how images are created, and game assets and media. The 1080p is a real thing when you are talking about clarity and picture quality but there are major factors that go in to that because its not a 1 size fits all type of thing…. its not as simple as more pixels mean better. For example a 720p texture in a game displayed at 1080 is the same as a 720p texture display at 720p…. it doesnt matter if they chopped it into more pieces you can only get out what is put in. thats why COD being 1080p on Ps4 and 720p on X1 needs a magnifying glass to tell the difference. Same thing with your tablet comparison and its not as different as you would think.

  • d0x360

    While true a lot of newer mobile stuff passes 1080p you have to consider that the smaller screen affords them to cheat. They use simple geometry and textures. If you plug your mobile device into a 1080p TV the game will look like garbage.

    For example dues ex looks great on mobile and its above 1080p but when you can actually see the detail on a large screen you clearly see major issues.

    Its not just about how many pixels you have its how you use them. Have we not learnt that lesson yet?

    • Edonus

      ‘Its not just about how many pixels you have its how you use them”

      Great comment….. if only the media didnt mind rape so many in the gaming or if they could only think for themselves we could be focusing our attention to better and much more interesting things.

    • d0x360

      Im not sure how that’s relevant to this topic especially since gamingbolt hasn’t lowered themselves to insult their own audience.

      I agree there are some serious issues with the media that need to be addressed but you need to pick the right time and place. You can’t just interject that kind of argument into a totally unrelated topic.

      Its frustrating I know but keep your cool. If you really feel the media is treating gamers poorly contact the companies who put ads on their sites but do so in a well written calm manner explaining why you don’t think they should be advertising there.

  • You are flat out wrong’s mom

    confirmed ps4 capable of 4k 120fps
    oh the intelligence of sony fanboys is tiny, sony must feel great about fooling their dumb consumers. oh well at least those armchair indie devs keep praising them for letting them publish their terrible games with ps+

  • You are flat out wrong’s mom

    Confirmed: PS4 will run games @ 4k 120fps
    Rumoured: Sony fans believe sony for saying the sky is orange?

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Hey PlayStation fanboys it’s time to embrace the horror, the PS4 isn’t as powerful as Sony says it is, the PS4 can’t run Witcher 3 at the targeted 1080p 60fps,the PS4 can’t run any battlefield games at 1080p, and there are more graphical demanding games in the pipeline that the PS4 won’t be able to run at 1080p, so just stop with your resolution fixation and just injoy the games

  • Mark

    It is quite crazy how some Tablets run 4K…….that is sick! Mobile is moving at super sonic speeds man. The heck will Apple n Samsung come with next?

  • Midori Inaba

    I don’t really care much for “raw” power…
    But PS4 has FF XIV and Persona 5. To me, that’s impossible to top for XBOX. It’s just impossible, cause of the kind of games that I like and want to play.


 

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