PS4 NEO Specs Being Increased By Sony In Response to Scorpio- Rumor

Last minute panic.

Posted By | On 09th, Aug. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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The PS4 NEO was always planned to be an incremental spec bump, a sort of New 3DS upgrade to Sony’s newest console, but when Microsoft announced the Scorpio at E3 this year, the game changed- the Scorpio was so powerful that it threatened to completely eclipse the NEO, not to mention the existing PS4 and Xbox One, and essentially kickstart a new generation (in fact, if the Xbox One and Scorpio weren’t intercompatible, one could make a very compelling argument that the Scorpio was Microsoft’s next generation system).

But now Sony risks being left behind- which is not something they probably appreciate, especially since they have made it a point to always have the most powerful system on the market at launch. Which is why it’s not surprising that rumors like these are arising- apparently, Giant Bomb’s Patrick and Austin recently were discussing in a podcast Sony looking at increasing the NEO’s specs ahead of its launch.

They both noted that Sony are worried about the Scorpio making the NEO outdated when it launches next year, and that they are looking at increasing the system’s power as a result. What is currently unknown is just how much of a spec bump can be managed, given the NEO’s rapidly approaching launch, but it sounds as though Sony are looking to share the final devkits with developers and publishers on September 7, which is allegedly when the system will be formally announced as well.

Of course, there are multiple things to consider here- the likelihood of Sony actually managing a spec bump without completely derailing the work they have done on the system so far is especially low. Especially since devkits have apparently been in the hands of developers for months, and the system itself is rapidly approaching launch. I can certainly buy Sony being worried about the Scorpio, and feeling that they lowballed the NEO internally- but I also don’t think there is enough time left to do anything about it.

Then too, one must consider that as long as Sony are using the Jaguar CPU, it doesn’t matter how much they increase their memory pools or clock speeds- Jaguar will continue to be the bottleneck in the PS4 NEO’s design regardless, and ensure that it’s not much more powerful than the exiting PS4 effectively.

Then again, as unlikely as it sounds, we should be able to take Giant Bomb at their word- they were the ones who first leaked news on the NEO, after all. No reason to suspect they would be faltering now. But with all that said, I must admit, even if Sony are considering raising the specs of the NEO, I don’t think they’ll actually be able to do much. It’s too late in the game for them to do that now.


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  • hiawa23

    This is one reason, I think MS should have kept quiet on the Scorpio at E3 and waited til 2017 to confirm the unit. By that time the Neo would have been out already.

    • jp

      MS is in a way better position than Sony to bump the specs, more money more budget, they can take more risks without putting the whole division in danger unlike Sony, Sony has to thread lightly with they resources since they are more limited as the time goes by, bottom line the Neo has been killed right out of the gate.

    • Doggystyle

      LOL. Inside info straight from “the best fry cooker ever” at Burger King. Your night crew supervisor would be proud. Thanks for the info dude!

    • jp

      I work in the stock market buddy, I know how much Sony and MS are trading and believe me brother Sony is in the pit.

    • Clint Hoffman

      Trading stock does not give any indication of division budgets.
      Microsoft has admitted that a lot of the Xbox One ‘issues’ were due to reduced budgets while expectations from shareholders were up. That is a lot of stock purchased at a high value while management was choking the division. Pretty common theme in US Business world.

    • Michael

      Time to start panicking like the rest, pony.

    • Monkey.D.Luffy

      MS have money not the Xbox division

    • jp

      more than PS4 of course they do, not for nothing we are getting two extra xbox to choose from, the services provided like playing with Gold, more games this winter, whats not to love, is blind even to think that a company more than 20x bigger doesnt have a bigger budget for one of their most representative divisions.

    • Starman

      Yes it does ….Fanboy.

    • Torreth

      Not necessarily. You need to stop viewing MS as a business thats willing to give everything it takes to make sure one of its products succeed. There are definite limits to how much they will spend to get the money flowing, and the Xbox division is no different. In fact, Its far more likely that Sony would devote more money into making its most profitable product succeed since its the only thing making it an electronic superpower these days.

    • jp

      they certainly have more assets than Sony in any way or means, seriously MS makes software for computers and now hardware, they have massive amounts of budget money beccause the xbox was included in one of their most profitable hardware divisions.

    • Torreth

      Microsoft isnt one huge wallet where the different divisions have the capacity to simply allocate money from the collected total, and since it has other divisions that are making a lot of money for them, they are more likely to close down the ones that arent up to snuff. Sony on the other hand NEEDS Playstation to survive, so their more likely to spend whatever it takes to ensure it will, or the entire company is dead.

    • Skorge

      Do people actually think that Sony is going to be able to bump the specs of the Neo? It doesn’t work like that, you don’t just slap new parts in and call it day. This stuff takes years of R/D and cost that Sony can’t afford. And they can’t afford to take losses on the Neo that MS can take on the Scorpio.

    • Mr Xrat

      $799 for previous framerates and textures LOL! Late to the party, as usual.

    • Nintengods

      Meanwhile there are people shilling $599 P$4 neo for previous framerates and textures at 1080P. Sad!

    • Nintengods

      $599 for the Neo. LOL

    • Torreth

      Sony might be struggling horribly in its other product lines, but the PS4 has turned out to be its flagship, and its not going to let its biggest bread winner to become moldy bread. It wouldnt surprise me if they had planned on a neo-vr co-launch, but its become far too easy for these game companies to delay their launches. They could use the sept 7th date to impress people with whats to come with the Neo, and then push it back to next years holiday season as well.

    • Mark

      Yeah but 1) People will just blame Phil for launching the S model, then release the Scorpio the next year, in other words just cash grabbing. 2) All developers now know about Scorpio and are getting their hands on dev kits, per Phil’s tweets

  • Marc Grierson

    All of this is based on an unannounced release date. Neo isn’t even formally announced never mind a release date.

    • Wontime

      I’d rather the neo not come out this holiday, sony should solely focus on psvr right now imo.
      Launch the neo next yr some time

    • CC-Tron

      What would be the point in delaying the Neo? Sony needs to release that weaker hardware as far ahead of Scorpio as possible. Delay it to next year and most of the talk will be about Scorpio (which will be only a few months away) as MS will be showing it’s games at E3.

  • kee1haul

    No chance. This was a hilarious NeoGaf rumour. Totally made up. Novus for the win!

    • Mr Xrat

      lol Mark can’t figure out when he’s being mocked.

    • kee1haul

      You’re back, and you brought your five up-votes with you.

  • snake8989

    It ain’t gonna happen.

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Even if Sony does add more ram to the NEO it still gonna have a slower memory bandwidth compared to the Scorpio
    And Microsoft has 15 months before the Scorpio launches that’s more than enough time for them to add even more ram to the Scorpio so any way this plays out the NEO will always be weaker than the Scorpio

    • Clint Hoffman

      That RAM comment is the same that was said about the original One.
      The One had a woefully inadequate memory bandwidth (DDR3) and large ESDRAM memory restrictions due to tiny size yet many M$ fans kept beating the drums about magic DX12 and hidden CPU cores.
      Look how well that did for them. Still a subpar unit. The One S is pretty much what the One should have been 3 years ago and it is still an inferior performing product compared to the PS4.

      Any changes to the PS4 are from a point of strength to a stronger position…at least until the One/Scorpio comes out…but then thats 1-1/2 more years of the most powerful console in Sony’s pocket….raking in the cash. If Sony adds more RAM it will still add more performance by allowing more textures. The PS4 was not bandwidth limited. It was GPU/CPU limited.

    • Mr Xrat

      Kirk is frightened.

  • Nintengods

    $ony $hills hopes and dreams before they get destroyed by NX

    • Clint Hoffman

      I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or just high. lol. Too many weird people post on here now days to know if anyone is being funny or just so far out of intelligent thought that they almost live in a different world. Kind of like Apple users. lol

    • Nintengods

      $ony shills are dumb enough to pay $699 for a barely upgraded console

    • Clint Hoffman

      I guess it depends on where you are. I’m in Canada. I fully expect the Neo to cost about $499 or $549 Cdn. I’ll sell my old one for $300. Net upgrade cost is about $300 for about a ~25% performance boost. I’ll throw in a real SSD as well vs my current SSHD.

      Overall a much better deal than the poor XOne users that have to pay $500 to get the same version of their console except in a smaller package and a larger slow storage. :/

      Sad that Nintendo still has nothing to offer. Lots of good memories of Nintendo old. Miss the Super Nintendo days.

  • DA-ROOSTER

    The PS4 NEO has a 218G memory bandwidth
    The Xbox Scorpio has a 320G memory bandwidth
    It’s to late for Sony to change this the only thing Sony can do now is add more ram but the PS4 NEO will always be slower than the Xbox Scorpio

    • Mark

      Yeah the Scorpio may even have 12GB of RAM, and at that point, we’re gonna see domination

    • Mr Xrat

      Same framerates and same textures in 4K before the next gen starts two years later, Kirk. You’re being played for the fool like you are.

    • Nintengods

      Mean while P$4 Neo is same framerates and same textures at 1080P upscaled for $599

      What a colossal joke. Nintendo curbstomping them in the same week will be glorious.

  • Tomaterrrx

    Gonna be interesting to see which console will be more powerful. Microsoft have learnt their lesson and Sony are doing really well anyway.

    • Skorge

      We already know which is one is going to be more powerful. It’s way too late for Sony to do anything with the Neo’s specs. Even if they had time to change it, they couldn’t afford to take the losses on the Neo that MS can take with the Scorpio.

    • Mr Xrat

      Sounding fearful there. Previous framerates and textures at 4K with the premium price tag because MS is tried of taking hits on its flop hardware. Stick to wrestling.

    • Nintengods

      $599 P$4 neo with the same framerates, same textures and same resolution upscaled. Sad!

      2006 all over again. Nintendo going to stomp $ony into the dirt and your tears will be glorious

  • Clint Hoffman

    Meh….
    I’m buying a Neo anyway. If they do squeeze an extra 5% here, 10% there and 20% in something else…who cares. All the better for the consumers. I’ll be picking up a Scorpio next year as well. As for the people getting a One S…heck..you get to play the M$ games like Gears. That’s not a bad thing. More power in either console is a win for consumers.

    Personally…My go to has been the PS4. Next will be the Neo. Then I’ll get the Scorpio. Power wins every time.

    • Wontime

      Dude, buy a pc you’ll be better off.
      No lie

    • Clint Hoffman

      I’ve had many PC’s over the years.
      Short answer…easier to spend $400 on a console every three years than deal with the driver/windows/hardware incompatibilities and >$ every 2 years when using a PC. Console ‘it justs works’ rate is a 98% for me. PC “it needs a patch/update/tweak” rate is about 50%.

  • Riggybro

    Reminds me of the XB1 last minute 10% CPU boost and volumes of essays written about esram a couple of years ago…

    Looks like the hardware wars yawnfest is set to continue for the next couple of years…

    I’ll be over here playing games if you need me LOL…

    • Mark

      Lol

    • Michael

      It reminds me of sony’s last minute ram upgrade to ps4. See what I did there? Get It? Got It? I’ll be over here playing the best lineup in xbox history if you need me…lol

    • Riggybro

      Yes. I saw what you did there.
      You interpreted my comment as some kind of Sony vs Microsoft thing.

  • Skorge

    More Pony sh**t from the stables known as Neogaf

    It’s too late for Sony to change the specs, and even if they could, they can’t afford to take losses on a powerful console. Microsoft can afford to take losses on the Scorpio, Sony would not be able to take losses on a similar powerful console.

    • Mr Xrat

      You sound scared.

      MS isn’t taking a loss on its flop hardware anymore. The price point will reflect this.

  • Michael B

    They can probably overclock the NEO a little bit more but that’s about it.

  • Starman

    Never gonna happen , and if it does ….. it will cause complications for dev’s who already (like Sony said) started development….

  • Mark

    Aight fanboys, TIME TO FIGHT! Lol

  • Michael

    Where is sony gonna get the loan to do this? If they had the money there would be no need to upgrade. Sorry fanboys but your specs are set. There is nothing you can do but continue to eat crow. Let’s see the articles about how scorpio power won’t matter….lol This is for the players.

    • bewareofZ

      MS had the money, but they couldn’t match the PS4 for 4 years lol

  • Mr Xrat

    Nice clickbait headlines, the rumor is that they’re looking into it. I’m not expecting much considering the imminent release, but it’ll make Xgimps cry even more about their year-late no-games same-framerate BEAST FIYAH joke, so more’s the better.

    • Nintengods

      $ony $hills getting extra defensive about their $599 No games same framerate joke is just as funny.


 

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