PS4′s GPU Makes It The Most Powerful Console In The World, Makes Responsive 60FPS Possible – Witch Beam

Witch Beam designer Sanatana Mishra delivers the goods.

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We recently had a chance to speak to Witch Beam designer Sanatana Mishra, currently working on Assault Android Cactus for the PlayStation 4.

Gaijin Entertainment, the developers of War Thunder recently claimed that the PS4’s GPU is 40% more powerful than the Xbox One. So we made sure to ask about the console’s GPU and whether it’s eased out the number of things you can do on screen in the game.

“From a pure tech perspective it’s undeniable that the PS4 GPU will make it the most powerful console in the world and for us that means we can turn on every visual flourish we want while keeping a smooth & responsive 60fps. We’re focused on every version running at 60fps including Vita, frame rate is king.”

How many characters will Assault Android Cactus have, and what special abilities and skills will they possess? Sanatana responded, “There will be a roster of 8 playable androids, 4 of which have to be unlocked throughout the campaign. Each one has a unique primary & secondary weapon that create their play style, and we’re considering other stat changes to separate them even further.”

As of now, Assault Android Cactus’s is expected to release in early 2014.


  • Jarrod

    Dear un-famous one-sided devs,

    You just need to stop thinking “big” or something, when your games aren’t recognised by ALL gamers just stop talking “big” like you’re somekind of big boys.
    Talent isn’t enough to prove your points. If you wanted to be recognised by ALL gamers then you’ll need to stop dragging them to playing on one system only. It may increase your sales too, because gaming isn’t revolve around the playstation nowadays.

    Stop being a one dimensional developer, unless you’re a total sheep to Sony. Thank you.

    • andy

      Maybe like with Just Add Water they tried to get it on Xbox but when they had to jump hoops like a show dog and sit and beg to get it on Microsoft’s system, they simply said “NO”. JAW are not sheep to Sony, they were just screwed around by Microsoft and thus so were Xbox owners then.

    • X1ultimateGamer

      STFU

    • hanz zolo

      Yusss! the most “powerful” console comes with plenty cute cartoony games at full 60FPS, thanks to childish looking characters. Funny that Knack is the only game currently runs on the real PS4 and it still runs choppy even in low poly stiff hair design (PS1 style). Seems like Cerny the idiot really knows how to impress the hardcores with GDDR5!! :))

    • EX+

      What BS. People like you are the reason as to why crappy game like COD sell so much and hold back the industry.

    • cozomel

      man, every ms fanboy just spews the most stupidest $hit out their mouths, the level of stupidity coming out of their minds is just astronomical and they all agree with each other. Nothing this clown said is even remotely true, yet he still gets “agrees”, but they dont care, cuz they rather bull$hit each other than face reality, pathetic and sad really. MS really let them down

    • EX+

      They’re just making a statement. What is wrong with you?
      You don’t need to be recognised by every single gamer in the world. What you’re basically saying is that every single game needs to be on all platforms. Sometimes it’s just not feasible, financially I mean. Look at Nintendo. All of their 1st party games are on one platform and they sell like hotcakes. Look at KH2, PS2 exclusive and it was a greatest hit. Look at FFVII, probably the most critically acclaimed FF game and it was a PS1 exclusive.
      I think you’re just upset that the PS4 is more powerful than the XBO and the only devs that you’re not hearing that from are MS devs.

    • X1ultimateGamer

      Bahahhaha Powerful my ass played it and garbage console crashed 4 times and graphics are so horrible . you sheep like or not you would be fools to waist money on Failstation 4

    • brian08

      another ignorant kid that cant spell. you must be smart. shitty xbox fanboy is in denial even though the specs of both consoles are confirmed and its a fact that the ps4 is more powerful.dont “waist” your money? retard!!!!

    • brian08

      and youre calling me a fool?

    • EX+

      I’m usually calm and normally don’t do this, but fuck off. If you can’t simply look at things with basic logic and reasoning, then there’s not point explaining things to you. You sound like a child

    • realmadpuppy

      obvious troll is obvious.

      Question? why do Xbox avatars stand in that weird pose?

    • mathMaticks

      Then you would be an even B I G G E R fool to waste money on the , Inferior, weaker, more expensive . Xbone., ya xboner.

    • hanz zolo

      Lolll …it’s funny how the sony hoes think that monopoly is needed to win the console war. In the next 1-2 years, the 1.8TF PS4 will be overshadowed by 3-6TF alternatives at the same price. Later this year, the Radeon R9 270X (2.7TF) can be bought at $199 only, a good investment if you already have a PC. Better hold your money a little longer for a much better system, thanks to the recession!

    • brian08

      and you dont think microsoft will do the same?

    • brian08

      and what recession do you speak of? the one that ended in 2009?
      “ignorance is bliss”

    • Michael W

      Are you fucking stupid??? No seriously get you head out of your ass and look around you. Does it look all rainbows and sunshine out there? Fucking idiot just cause your not hurting does not mean the rest of us aren’t. We ARE still in a recession and the 17+ TRILLION above all of our heads proves that fact.

    • David Vaughan

      The 17+ TRILLION doesn’t prove that we are in a recession. It proves that we are in serious debt. But debt and recession are two different things. Look up their definitions and you should clearly see the difference between the two.

    • Nick TwinkleToes Setzer

      A consistently dropping GDP per capita begs to differ. But just like you believe anything sony spoon feeds you, you must believe anything obama and his administration tell you as well…. Also do you think that government shutdowns happen in times of prosperity and growth??

    • Icaraeus

      The optimised performance of the PS4 is reported by Sony to be around 3.6TF’s. The PS4 is by no means unable to handle things for itself. Look at the PS3 – it is considered the most underpowered piece of junk by PC gamers like you and with its “specs” it’s able to produce games like Beyond: Two Souls and The Last of Us.

    • brian08

      dear jarrod, people may respect your opinion more if you learn to spell and structure a sentence correctly.

    • X1ultimateGamer

      Ya says the retard saying Dear FFS

    • Megaman

      Amen

    • cell989

      ill take his word (a real game developer who has worked on the consoles and has access to specs) over a butthurt xboner like you who has yet to even touch one of those 2 consoles, remember logic wins everytime

    • cozomel

      translation: dont tell the truth, sell out to the corporate big-wigs, cuz i hate it when you dont sweat my beloved system. You ms fanboys are pathetic! go cry some more.

    • mathMaticks

      Dear Jarrod,

      You just need to stop thinking “big” or something, when your name
      isn’t recognised by ALL gamers just stop talking “big” like you’re
      somekind of big boy.
      Talent isn’t enough to prove your point. If you wanted to be recognised by gamers then you’ll need to stop.

  • X1ultimateGamer

    LMFAO powerful my Ass I played it and by the way you must be a Sony sheep to believe your own BS FFS

    • brian08

      you played it where? lofl! youre so full of it!

    • David Vaughan

      You sound mad, X1!! Looks like your trying hard to convince others that your preferred system is the one to buy. Why do you care so much about what others buy? Just be happy that you’ll be enjoying the system, X1 even if it is less powerful than the PS4. It’s OK to shell out money for an inferior system, right? LOL!!

  • X1ultimateGamer

    Sony sheep are desperate to win but guess what their all losing , Sony so insecure of itself they have post on every forum possible LMFAO

    But get how retarded the Sony sheep they are in every Xbox One article yet though not their own to praise their garbage console way to go retards make every Xbox One popular and we know how stupid your comments are really !!!

    • brian08

      fucking idiot! go to school and learn how to spell!nobody cares what a retard that cant spell is trying to preach!

    • brian08

      you lose all credibility when you cant even form sentences! dumbass!!

    • Craig Rude-Boy Newman

      I remember your picture mate (before you changed it to this shite avatar) you are the 40 year old virgin, that spells like a 10 year old (and acts like one) wow, for fucking shame…

    • You are flat out wrong

      You sound upset, Xiglet.

  • EX+

    Some of the ignorance I’m seeing from leading up to the launch of the next gen is blowing my mind. Just accept that the PS4 is more powerful and move on.

    • Jason Mounce

      B-B-B-BUT I WANT TO FEEL GOOD AND STROKE OFF ABOUT MY IMPROPER AND EMOTIVE-BASED INVESTMENTS. MY PURCHASE AND DECISIONS ARE SMARTER THAN YOURS….!!! CAUSE I SAY SO AND IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU CAN GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

    • max0583

      So,my question is how many games has this developer made for XB1?until he touches XB1 architecture only then can he make that statement.seems to me someone is kissing up to Sony.

    • Jason Mounce

      You don’t need to develop on the hardware to understand its limitations when we all know the SPECS….

      X1 RAM is inferior to PS4 and the GPU is literally 40% weaker aka the 1.23 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS on PS4. X1′s ESRAM is a burden rather than a gift until we can be proven otherwise, it causes complications and all combined has a smaller amount of bandwidth to offer. That’s also not taking in mind the Reserved RAM of 3GB directed to the OS and not for Games. Limiting the amount of bandwidth even further.

      Many developers have said the same thing and they don’t need to be bribed or to be kissing up to say it.

    • Jacob S

      Really, you have no clue as to how anything works. BTW PS4 3.2gb for os. Using Ram for programs has nothing to do with limiting BW. Tech. The Xbox1 has a higher BW than the PS4. A way stronger CPU and GPU acceleration. It’s a better OC system because the CPU/GPU/esram all have there own pwr supply and are made independent from each other- means more OC def. possible, just like using Async in the PC bios~ the big a$$ vented case.

    • Jason Mounce

      I forgot everyone on the internet were engineering geniuses.

      I heard it was 3.5GB. 2.5GB Completely for OS whilst the other 1GB being Flexible, saving 4.5 for Games itself. Though apparently I don’t know ‘How anything works’ – As I type this on a PC I built from scratch too.

      Microsoft implies that it is ‘Theoretically capable’ of having higher bandwidth than what DDR3 + ESRAM Spec-wise and performance wise are capable of, never is there a report that someone writes that it can outperform PS4. Provide source or simply leave where you’re at….you’re a Really really bad liar and your fanboyism and desperateness is showing.

      Secondly, the CPU’s are the EXACT SAME… You’re not going to mystify me with saying “X1 HAS CPU AND GPU ACCELERATION!” and actually THINK that I’m going to slap my cheeks and go “GOSH! I forgot X1 Had that ability!…. I’m so glad a random internet-nobody told me I’m wrong and that I don’t know how ANYTHING works and comically am not given a shred of proof for a counter-argument. I’m just told I’m wrong ‘Because I am’ and then told X1 has Magical Powers and Hidden Super Saiyan capabilities that no one else has heard of, but You!” Gee wizz!

      See where I’m going with this? I gave Statistical Facts. you’re giving me groundless dribble like a zelaous, fanatic fanboy, telling me ‘Accelerators’ exist that ‘Boost X1 to be stronger’….using random-wording to heavily imply Xbox One is stronger ….. when the hardware is weaker…

      I guess you could say….

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      Your head is in the ‘Clouds’, eh?

      No, but seriously. Don’t come in here acting like you know anything about technology in the slightest bit when you can’t even comprehend Facts that are based off of hardware specs in itself. You waved facts away in return for you groundless rambling of ‘CPU/GPU Accelerations’ that has no justification, logic or evidence.

    • max0583

      You said it best no one here is a developer and every one talks on articles writing by people that don’t make games.I say unless you work with both hardwares you can talk all you want about either console.big percent of people dont have the slightest idea how this consoles work.

    • max0583

      Again all developers saying this are doing PS4 exclusive.Yes Ps4 is a Beast of machine but i don’t think it will blow XB1 out the water.Also a lot of this comments are twisted by the writer of the article.

    • Jason Mounce

      Both consoles can be maximized to a full-potential that no one will be able to foretell. That is the only logical ending to that statement. Again though, we may not visually know what the maximized-result may be on That scale…..but spec-wise….POTENTIAL-Wise. PS4 still is a victor in raw power. To successfully use ESRAM, it will be a Hurdle and I’m sure devs would say the same thing, I’m saying this based on word-of-mouth on what some experts have said regarding ESRAM but we have to wait for launch and beyond that before we get more legitimate and grounded information and diagnosis on such issues.

      But, PS4 having its raw power advantages, using GDDR5 RAM instead of DDR3 is already showing promise unlike X1. We already have heard that Dead Rising 3 is having framerate issues and will be ‘downgraded’ in some way. We were told Ryse would be 900p and 30FPS and the only game trying to offer a ‘Cliched’ Next-gen visual-appeal is Forza. PS4 has Killzone Shadowfall both Singleplayer and Multiplayer going for 60FPS 1080p in contrast. Just saying based on the pre-emptive evidence we have in launch-lineup that PS4′s library already shows the potential for more. The only thing Ryse has as a plus-side for people not to completely go in disarray is the whole Main-character-polygon-count thing which is redundant anyways for the most part via it being a trivial boast of compensation.

      At the end of the day, we will very much so get more information on how devs are handling each of the hardwares. I feel it will be how this generation was with PS3/360 in optimizations, but flipped around. At the end of the day too, the non-fanboy perspective remains factual too. Hardware in terms of raw power never equates to a ‘Victor’ it simply means it’s more capable of better visuals, everything that matters relies on the developers creativity and games they make on it. The hindsight is only – Even if there is an X1 game that isn’t on PS4, people are desperately trying to aim to have boast rights of: “Only on the Xbox One, nothing else can handle ‘THIS’ game” – We’ll never see this, except for a stuck-up developer who wants to boast their game pretentiously :l

    • Jed ‘Papa Doc’ Arain

      KZSF on PS4 is 30FPS in SP campaign and 60FPS in multiplayer and the whole game runs at 1080p. Also, COD:Ghosts is 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox One (although I’m still pretty sure that is has still NOT been confirmed by MS or COD devs, the fact that they haven’t disputed the rumors pretty much says that COD: Ghosts runs at 720p on XB1, which is a HUGE downer for Xbox One fans). #PS4FTW

    • Jason Mounce

      I agree, they’re being awfully suspicious about X1′s resolution.

      At the same time I do remember reading the article where Albert Penello of Microsoft said that he’s not told anything regarding Third-party quality/control/resolution/specs and that M$ deals with their divisions secretively, likely to avoid leaks through which Sony can be more notorious to have happening with them.

      That means he’s either bullshi*ting people and telling us Microsoft is deliberately disorganized or it’s damage control and they’re trying to hide facts away as much as possible, delaying as long as possible, hoping the people that are the most sheep-like that have ‘Faith’ in Microsoft, who may be upset upon hearing the truth and to have them buy the launch editions and they want to keep the silence until then or so.

      I’d rather have faith that Sony understands this business and knows what the average gamer and hardcore gamers want without having to TELL you what you want or tell you what they think you want.

    • JonM

      Some Xbox devs speak otherwise, the recent one being the comfortable zone of 32 MB ESRAM

    • Jason Mounce

      You said it precisely…..”Xbox Devs say otherwise”….

      That’s where you stop. Of course they’ll say something positive about the console they’re working on. They cannot say anything negative, and that’s why for the most part I say we have to wait for the Truth to come out for either consoles, if anything is hidden that we don’t know beyond the obvious or the factual. NDA exists in the circumstances where nothing can be said unless the companies allow it to pass, thus, nothing will pass that isn’t positive publicity unless the quote comes from someone who didn’t sign the NDA or didn’t need to but knows something else, which is where most of the “PS4 is 40% stronger” comes from rather than PS4-Exclusive devs themselves. Though am sure both sides of Non-Exclusive devs and Exclusive devs are saying the same thing.

      Best not to believe what Xbox Devs are saying since, honestly, for me? Most of it is damage control. Take all of its ‘Pro-buff’ tips with a massive grain of salt. Same can be said with PS4 though I’d be more reluctant to believe truth from everyones praise of PS4 rather than the massive amounts of mixed criticisms in which most cases on the Negative side are legitimate, most Positives are groundless or, relating to mystification, promises, Prep-talk, damage control, or words that are specifically said to qualm problems that arisen and are there Only for damage control rather than anything else, in my eyes. I’ll see the truth for my own eyes at X1′s launch to see how far away from the truth we all were, and Microsoft….or how close everyone was about it.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Incorrect. The “Xbox dev” is the MAN WHO DESIGNED THE SYSTEM. Of course he’s going to justify his crap architecture decisions!

    • Eric M.

      Oh you mean like the eDRAM on the 360, which was proven to work great? eSRAM is the NEXT evolution of eDRAM. That tech worked before, the new will work again. Just don’t expect games to shine to the fullest extent for a couple of years.. I mean Xbox 360 Games looked terrible until 2009..

    • Virdin Barzey

      I’m getting both consoles but some of the ignorance I see leading up to the launch of the next gen is almost laughable. Many of these folks may need to be hit over the head and reminded that the PS3 was at least 50% more powerful as well.

      We saw how that turned out. Sorry, only suckers buy into this media drivel…..again. Fooled me once, I’ll wait for the games to be the determining factor not some one sided exclusive developer. Show me the games that’s 50% better…that’s all I want to see. Otherwise just shut up.

      Yeah, the Atari Jaguar was once the most powerful console as well..LOL. So stupid.

    • Guy

      PS3 wasn’t nearly 50% more powerful. And even then its exclusives like Uncharted and Last of Us were the best looking and performing console games of last gen. Multiplats performed better on 360 because it had friendlier architecture, but PS3′s superior capabilities really shined through its exclusives.

  • Bozo Sapien

    Another FUD quote from an indie developer greased with a free devkit. I’m sure the AAA title Assault Android Cactus will sell millions of PS4 consoles.

    • David Vaughan

      Indie games are rarely, if ever, expected to sell millions of games, let alone consoles. Whatever point your trying to make, is moot by this simple fact. All in all, it just sounds like you’re a jealous XBone fan. Don’t hate on a system just because developers don’t want to make games for your preferred system.

    • Michael W

      Yea Minecraft, CastleMiner Z, Castlecrashers, and the tons of other idie games that sold millions would like to say hi! SDF people keep forgetting Indie started are xbox years before PS3 got its head out of its ass.

    • David Vaughan

      You fail to recognize the key word….expected. When these games were made, no one, EXPECTED them to sell millions. And not one of them, was EXPECTED to sell consoles! Learn to read and comprehend, before you post stupid comments.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I’m not sure what you are talking about. The Xbox One has plenty of titles. It’s the PS4 that is severely lacking in the software department. Everyone in the industry knows that. Sony even admitted they are going to have to rely on indie titles to see them through the post-launch drought. The Pee Wee Herman “I know you are but what am I” routine won’t work here but nice try.

    • David Vaughan

      I never said that Xbone didn’t have a lot of titles. I simply stated that developers don’t want to make games for Xbone. However, it seems as if I have to elaborate to get you to understand a little more clearly. There are SOME developers who are shunning Xbone because of some of their BS policies towards indies (yes, even after they caved in and made some concessions). Is that simple enough for you to understand? How is it that PS4 is “severely” lacking with launch titles, exactly? Last I heard, there wasn’t any significant difference in the number of launch titles between the two systems. I never tried to make any “I know you are but what am I” points, so from where you draw this conclusion is ridiculous. Much as in your preference with the Xbone!

    • Bozo Sapien

      Which developers would that be? As someone who works in the industry I can assure you that no major developers are “shunning” the Xbox One. Michael Pachter and just about anyone in the gaming media agrees that the PS4 is severely lacking on the software front compared to Xbox One.

      I have no system preference since my job requires me to have both consoles. I’m also not delusional enough to conclude that the PS4 is going to be “the most powerful console in the world” based on the comments of some mobile developer.

    • David Vaughan

      Which developers? Just read the article on this page, and that would be one example. I never said that “major” developers were shunning the Xbone, I said some indies were. If you think that Michael Pachter is a serious source of credible information, then you and I have completely different ideas of what makes someone credible. Michael Pachter has a track record of missing on his predictions more than hitting on them. I take what he says, with a grain of salt.
      If you have no system preference, it certainly doesn’t seem to be the case based upon your negative comments towards PS4. I also don’t think the PS4 or Xbone for that matter, are “the most powerful consoles in the world.” I’ve never said anything to make that a point.

    • Bozo Sapien

      You are commenting on article that claims the PS4 is the most powerful console in the world.

    • David Vaughan

      No, I was commenting on your various assertions that somehow PS4′s lineup was lesser than Xbones. In referencing this article, I was merely supporting a fact that the list of developers shying away from Xbone continues to grow.

    • Bozo Sapien

      There is no fact that “the list of developers shying away from the [Xbox One] continues to grow.” A handful of indie developers have expressed their frustration with Microsoft’s previous policies toward indie development. When it comes to actual retail (non-indie) product developers the Xbox One has seen nothing but widespread support. Indie games will continue to have zero impact on console sales.

    • David Vaughan

      For being a supposed “someone who works in the industry” you don’t seem to know a whole hell of a lot about indies. Ever since E3, there have been numerous indies frustrated and shunning Microsoft. Every week or so, new tweets are being posted on the internet, by ACTUAL GAME DEVELOPERS showing their dislike for Microsoft. This article is yet another example of an indie showing no support for Microsoft and serves to add to that list, thereby making it a growing list. This is about as basic as I can break it down for you. Again, you claim to not have to google information, but your lack of knowledge about indies is showing more with each post that you make.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I know plenty about indie developers. My point is that they and their games have little to market share and will have zero effect on console sales.

    • You are flat out wrong

      You keep being asked for sources and go “Google it!” “I work in the industry!”

      You have no credibility.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I never told anyone to Google anything.

    • You are flat out wrong

      You’ve told ‘em to look it up themselves when they’ve asked you for sources. You try that in a courtroom and you’d get laughed out.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I never told anyone to “look it up themselves.” What I said was that if they talked to actual game developers or journalists instead of reading NeoGAF or blog comments they would get an entirely different narrative than what they believe.

    • You are flat out wrong

      As opposed to news stories from developers stating the better quality of the PS4′s hardware.

      There’s also no evidence of you working in the industry, other than as a Microsoft marketer, obviously.

    • Bozo Sapien

      If by “news stories” you mean anecdotal evidence based on second and third hand rumors, Tweets and anonymous forum posts, then sure. Unfortunately the games do not demonstrate this mythical power advantage, nor do multi-platform (key word) developers see it. As for marketing, Sony’s social marketing campaign has clearly been effective in convincing people otherwise.

    • You are flat out wrong

      “I don’t like these news stories because they don’t confirm my biases.”

      Yeah, OK.

      As for power: do you genuinely believe MS’ TV Box which was made underpowered so the parts could be cheaper and they could force in the crappy Kinect at a not outrageous price can match the PS4′s stronger hardware? Where are they going to make up the difference? The “cloud?” The “hidden dGPU?” Benchmarking? Unicorn farts? If anything, “they’re both about the same” is probably the most disgusting (and unbelievable) MS disinformation since the start of the year. I’m looking forward to the final builds of Killzone, DC and Infamous coming out and totally trouncing the newer garbage builds of Ryse and KI, as well as the better performance of next year’s multiplats.

      “I work in the industry!!!!” Pull another one.

    • Bozo Sapien

      “Power” and paper specs do not sell consoles. You would think Sony would have learned that with the PS3. Games are what sell consoles and, like I said before, Microsoft has the stronger franchises. That is based on sales numbers, nothing else.

      I am not denying that Sony has had and will continue to have solid titles. The point is that their sales numbers have never been as strong as their Xbox counterparts. The Last of Us, for example, is a fantastic game and was critically acclaimed. It has sold less than 4 million copies worldwide. The biggest Xbox titles perform at around 6-8 million.

      Also, you haven’t seen current builds of any of the games you mentioned. Developers do not compile new code for every trade show so what gamers have been playing both on the PS4 and Xbox One are literally months old versions of these games. All of the titles you mentioned will be solid once released but, again, sales history shows that the Xbox One’s franchises sell more copies and sales numbers are all that matter to developers.

      If you are expecting multi-platform titles to show any major improvements on one console over another, whether it be now or a year from now, you will be rather disappointed.

      I don’t have to “pull” anything. I can appreciate your devotion to the Sony brand but history and sales data is not on your side.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Stronger franchises? Ryse? New IP, no precedent for sales data, looks like dogshit. Forza is just a upressed Forza 4 that Xdrones flock to because they have nothing else. Dead Rising is a B-tier Capcom franchise that only got made because MS paid them to do so.

      Yes, first party MS games so far have been continually releasing more demos as a form of PR damage control. Sony devs in contrast have been using the time and goodwill they engendered from not being tied to a shit console to finish off their games.

      Killzone is going to be the highest selling launch exclusive, by the way. In the long term DC and Knack will slowly keep up sales due to the upgrade programme for the former and the wider appeal of the latter to families and children. I expect devs to gravitate to the PS4 as sales take off and the Xbone continues its floundering due to widespread consumer distrust. Halo 5 might be able to reverse the decline but after the blunder that was Halo 4 only the faithful will turn out for that and I’m not sure how many are even left. What will your history and sales data do then?

    • Bozo Sapien

      Killzone may very well be the highest selling launch exclusive but the preorder numbers for Drive Club and Knack are absolutely dismal. I don’t see any hope at all there. If you really want a good indicator of what’s going to happen look at the preorder numbers for Call of Duty; Ghosts. Both versions (PS4 and Xbox One) are hovering right around 250k copies preordered. It is extremely close, just as the number of consoles sold will be.

      I have no interest in re-writing history or making fortune cookie predictions. Real world data currently shows the race too close to call and I don’t expect that to change for a long while, if at all.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Indeed, the big multiplats will beat them, I’ve already addressed that, and they’re tracking better on the PS4. . Knack and DC have weak pre-order numbers but are more likely to have a longer sales tail compared to Ryse and to a lesser extent Forza. Real world data shows interest in the Xbone zero in Japan, 4/3:1 in the PS4′s favour in continental Europe, 2:1 in the UK and slightly ahead in the US. Not good for the Boner.

    • Bozo Sapien

      RYSE is currently at around 65k preorders and Knack at 46k. Forza is at 73k and Drive Club doesn’t even make the top 50 so I can’t give you a number.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Meanwhile, Killzone is at 232k and with the exception of Cod Doge, every third party multiplat on the PS4 wrecks the Xbone’s numbers.

      You also have difficulty understanding the concept of “longer sales tail.” Think Just Cause 2.

    • Eric M.

      Who really GIVES a shit about Indie Titles? Microsoft did great with games like GOW and Halo. Indies will be irrelevant to Xbox Ones Success, however, PS4 fanboys will continue to ride that Indie train like it matters in the real world.
      The only reason MS would give a crap, is to take away from and or stay competitive to Sony in that market. Wanna play Indies? Turn on your iFruit 6

    • CraZed77

      Every system goes through drought periods. The point Shu Yoshida was making is that in between the AAA exclusives, that we all know are being worked on with Sony’s first party devs, there are going to be plenty of small yet fun and innovative indie titles coming out to help keep gamers busy and happy.
      Not to mention plenty of third party AAA titles as well. There is simply no ‘shortage’ of games on any Sony system period.

    • Bozo Sapien

      Industry annalists such as Michael Pachter and just about any gaming journalist worth his salt would disagree. Sony has the weaker software lineup. That is a fact. It remains to be seen if the $100 price difference and initial bad publicity surrounding Xbox One can push Sony forward in the upcoming gen. It’s all fortune telling at this point.

    • David Vaughan

      “Sony has a weaker lineup” is not a fact, it is an opinion. What may seem weak to you, may not seem weak to someone else. Michael Pachter is a joke. What he says, means next to nothing. That is my opinion. I’m not delusional enough to claim that to be fact, because I can tell the difference between fact and opinion. You clearly need some practice with this concept.

    • Bozo Sapien

      It’s not just Pachter. Try talking to some actual industry folks.

    • David Vaughan

      Aren’t you an example of “industry folk”? I’m talking to you right now. And contrary to what your claiming, I’ve read a number of articles saying the PS4 has a stronger lineup. A simple google search will yield about a 50/50 split on this subject. Google it.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I don’t have to Google it. I speak to developers, media professionals and other people in the gaming industry on a daily basis are part of my employment. I’m telling you that the sentiments being expressed on blog comments and gaming forums have little to no impact in real world marketing.

    • myaccount nowname

      I keep reading people say this comment “it is a will known fact”. Lets do some research I go to the game site gamestop and as of today I see 13 xboxone games that is ACTUALLY being sold by Nov, 22. I look at the the ps4 section and see 15 games that are actually being sold by Nov 22. Sounds like PS4 has the most games early on, if you ask math.

    • myaccount nowname

      It is easy to go to a source instead of listening to a guy say the self serving statement “it is a will known fact”. Lets do some research I go to gamestop and as of today I see 13 xboxone games that is ACTUALLY being sold by Nov, 22. I look at the the ps4 section and see 15 games that are actually being sold by Nov 22.

    • Bozo Sapien

      How many of those 15 games are exclusive to PS4 vs. the number of Xbox One exclusives?

    • You are flat out wrong

      At this point, the PS4 has more exclusives than the Xbone in 2014.

    • Bozo Sapien

      That’s true. Unfortunately almost all of them are indie titles, which do not sell systems.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Not really. PS4 confirmed 2014: Infamous and The Order. Both AAA exclusives, both made for PS4. All the multiplats that matter and topped off with some top quality indie stuff.

      Xbone confirmed 2014: Titanfall and Project Spark. Former is a ported PS3 game, latter is by a smaller team. Both also on 360 and PC, nullifying any reason to get an Xbone.

    • Bozo Sapien

      If you believe Infamous or The Order will deliver Sony sales numbers anywhere near what Titanfall will you have a lot to learn about the industry,

    • You are flat out wrong

      If you think a up-ported multiplat game can deliver higher sales than an actual exclusive you have a lot to learn about common sense. TF’s online multiplayer-only nature in particular cripples it for consoles.

    • Bozo Sapien

      Sorry, I base my opinions on sales number history and market trends not blind faith and devotion to a particular company.

    • You are flat out wrong

      If that was the case, the PS3 should have blown past the Wii and 360 this gen. Oh wait! Didn’t happen.

    • coip

      Titanfall and it’s dozens of “best of show” awards this past year = 300 shitty indie exclusives on the PS4. Xbox One has better exclusives, no doubt. Add in all the other stuff it can do that PS4 cannot (including Sony’s middling online play and online matchmaking network) and only a naive fanboy would buy a boring PS4.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Titanfail: also on PC and 360. Considering how widely hated the Boner is, it’ll sell more on those platforms.

      Despite your insanity, Infamous and The Order are not “indie.” And yes, I regard Octodad as a more enticing game than something that doesn’t even have a single player campaign.

    • coip

      Single player games are boring. If I wanted to hole up in a room and play with myself I’d buy some Astroglide. Multiplayer is where it’s at, and the Xbox Live network is light years ahead of PSN. Yes, I know Titanfall is coming to 360 and PC too, but we’ve already established that PC gaming sucks; the point is that the Xbox One version will be the best and it’s not coming to PS4. I never said anything about Infamous or The Order; I don’t even know what you’re talking about. The point is that Sony fanboys have been having a frantic breakdown on the Internet over the past few months trying as hard as they can to justify the PS4 over the Xbox One. They realize that the Xbox One is simply much better: more innovative (especially with the Kinect 2 voice and gesture commands, hot swapping between games, Skype, IE, movies, TV, etc.), has more potential to grown (with the cloud computing backed up by the 300k servers Microsoft implemented), has a better online network and matchmaking service, and has better exclusive games. Sony fanboys see that and they’re freaking out, trying everything they can to find a place where the PS4 is better, so they focus on specs, which makes them look even more naïve because the differences in specs are minute and, in the end, won’t mean jack.

    • cell989

      you definitely sound butthurt

    • Bozo Sapien

      No, I’m just not delusional enough to think that anyone cares about Assault Android Cactus.

    • David Vaughan

      Your missing the other more significant point…that the number of indies shunning the Xbone continues to grow. This, even after Xbone caved in and started trying to play “nice” with indies.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I’m not missing anything. Indie games represent an insignificant percentage of game sales. I know people love to gush over them on gaming forums but the number of people actually buying them is another story. More importantly, anyone who tries to tell you that indie titles sell consoles is selling you snake oil.

    • David Vaughan

      I actually agree with you that indie titles aren’t system sellers. I’ve never said anything to that point. If you read some of my other comments, you’ll actually see that I’ve made a similar point to yours, in response to another Xbox fan, such as yourself. However, it still doesn’t detract from the fact that some indies have already expressed their disdain for Xbone and won’t be developing games for the system anytime soon. And it still doesn’t negate the fact, that the list of indies not wanting to make games for Xbone continues to grow, as evidenced by the article at the top of the page.

    • Bozo Sapien

      Microsoft was late to the game when it came to indie developers. Once consoles are actually in the wild and install numbers grow indie developers will want the exposure of having their titles on both consoles.

    • David Vaughan

      Microsoft was actually not late to court indie developers. They were actually courting them even before Sony was, on the X360. Indies started shying away from Microsoft, starting with this upcoming generation of consoles. They didn’t like the fact that it was too expensive to make games, it took way too long for them to be released, and they couldn’t set the release date or the prices of their games. I would think, that “as someone who works in the industry”, you would have known this already. It feels great to enlighten some in the industry!
      I do however agree with you that indies will eventually release more games on Xbone because there is just too much money to lose if they don’t. But being that Microsoft still isn’t letting indies price their own games even now, it will take some considerable time for them to come around.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Octodad has more appeal than Ryse.

    • Bozo Sapien

      I’m sure it does to some people. Can’t knock either game.

    • You are flat out wrong

      He’s a no-games Xdrone, of course he’s butthurt.

  • Mitchell Jenkins

    Of course it is more powerful. Now I understand why PC elitists give Xbox fanboys hell. You can not deny that a better video card is superior to a weaker one. Well, no body but xbox fanboys.

  • Mark Michaels

    Man I thought this said The Witcher 3 developer then the article loads and its 2 barely known developers again. At this point I’m sick of hearing the same stuff everyday. I just finished Paying off my PS4 and I’m still paying on my Xbox One. I know I’m going to enjoy both consoles and I know that all this will add up to relative little in the coming years. What. I don’t get is the Sony fanboy inferiority complex I see all over video game forums. It was the same way last generation. In every forum the majority of negative comments are from self titles Sony fans. Yes Ps4 is an amazing piece of hardware but why do you feel the deep need to troll every article with negative nonsense. Boggles the mind.

    • Virdin Barzey

      A lot of it is hate for MS as a company. Kinda like the Apple vs Samsung. Sony is a brand that over the years people have been extremely devoted to. Kinda like Apple, no matter what Sony do or don’t do they will love its products. Obviously many can’t get both consoles so they will justify their choice by hating on the other. Childish but there are tons of childish behavior, attitude, comments, etc. in this industry. Just look at Annoyed Gamer on Gametrailers or Greg Miller on IGN. Sony has figured out how to use that hatred for MS to give them a clear advantage. Its brilliant especially since gamers aren’t smartest consumers…..

  • TristanPR77

    According to some people commenting here, indi developers doesn’t have the right to speak about console specs unless they favor the x1.

    Really, WTF? Is the desperation of x1 fanboys that bad that they don’t even reason anymore?

    Lots of triple A games developers and indies has stated the same, the PS4 is more powerful. If you can’t handle it ghen don’t read gaming news.

    • Bozo Sapien

      Which AAA developers would that be? There has not been a single direct quote from anyone saying the PS4 is more powerful. Is the desperation of PS4 fanboys so bad that they have to rely on anecdotal information and random forum and Twitter posts to further some myth that the PS4 is a vastly more powerful console than the Xbox One?

  • herbspeidel

    I’m amazed at the amount of people who really give a shit what other people’s opinions are on the upcoming consoles. Why do all these people have to fill these articles up with shit no one wants to read? It’s even worse this time around than last gen, and 99.9% of it is just reguritated crap they heard from somewhere else. Why come to a console’s defence, and argue with a faceless retard? Does Sony or MS cut you a cheque for standing up for them? No. Also, faceless retards opinions aside, do the micro differences between 2 systems REALLY make a signifigant difference? No. OMG!! There’s a shadow missing, or Bitmap a bit blurrier on ( insert your least favorite console here ) so it’s garbage and not worth playing now…what a childish comunity. If you really think about it, without healthy competition, neither system would be where it’s at today.

    • mathMaticks

      Nintendo, SteamBox. and Playstation…. Xbone can show itself the door,.. We as Gamers.. DON’T NEED MICROSOFT.

  • herbspeidel

    Also, replying to some idiot’s post just gives them the illusion that their words mean something to some other idiot. If people could just ignore, and not give them the satisfaction that they are “getting” to you, their words have no meaning or power. I could say “xbox one” is better than “ps4″ for some dumb reason, and it would just disappear unless I provoked a response from some idiot pre-teen fanboy.

  • ahlun

    Here you go, another article about that will attract lots of comments.

  • coip

    All of you obsessing over specs need to chill the eff out: in the end, they don’t mean anything. Every generation Sony pumps out a bunch of marketing bullshit about how the PS2 / PS3 / PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox / Xbox 360 / Xbox One. And what have we seen from the previous two generations: negligible differences at best. Nintendo showed with the Wii that what really matters is if the games are fun. Xbox One gets the edge here because between Sony and Microsoft, Microsoft is the one really pushing the industry into new directions with the Kinect 2′s voice and motion controls. That shit is going to change the game forever, and Microsoft is making it happen by pushing development for it and bundling it in. Sony, on the other hand, is only good at aping others companies and bragging about meaningless specs. PS4 = boring (but at least it has slightly higher specs, right!?…yawn).

    • You are flat out wrong

      “Muh crap innovashun”
      “Muh cancerous policies”

      More garbage marketing. Krappy Kinect won’t change anything. Xdrones are the Goddamn worst.

    • coip

      In 20 years we’re going to be playing full immersion games and we’ll have the Kinect to thank for bringing us there. Meanwhile Sony would be content with playing games like we’re still in the ’90s. Boring. Thank goodness for Microsoft and Nintendo for actually pushing the industry forward.

    • You are flat out wrong

      “Full immersion games.” “Pushing the industry forwards” with cancerous policies nobody wants. Hilarious. Nintendo’s already dropped waggle for second screen. This innovashun of yours is dead in the water.

    • coip

      Cancerous policies nobody wants? You mean the same ones you undoubtedly grant access to every time you download an app on your smart phone? Constantly having access to your information, location, etc. Having your app purchases tied to one devices, etc. Microsoft’s original Xbox One policies were much better than the current status quo (the terribly restrictive polices that Apple imposed on the masses). Those policies have been rescinded anyway, so what are you bitching about? That they listened? Nintendo is failing because their innovation wasn’t enough: second screen is going to be huge, but it’s not enough to build a console around (especially since Microsoft can do it better with Xbox Smart Glass on tablets and phones). You should know that you are flat out wrong.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Bahaha, what are you talking about? The Xbone vision was nothing like what you can do with smartphones. Next you’ll be fallaciously comparing it to Steam.

    • coip

      You’re right: it was better than what you can do with smartphones. Take the iPhone. You buy an app, it’s tied to that device. On Xbox One, you can log into any Xbox One and access your entire library. On iPhone you download an app and you have to authorize a bunch of bullshit just to use it (e.g., location tracking). On Xbox one, you don’t have to do any of that. On iPhone if you buy an app, you can’t share it with your friends. On Xbox One you would’ve been able to. Without you expounding on your thoughts (usually evidence that you don’t have an argument at all) it’s hard to know what you’re getting at, but my argument is that people hypocritically went all ape shit over the Xbox One’s original policies even though they had been happily compliant in using more restrictive devices (like iPods and iPhones) for years earlier. So silly.

      As for Steam, I’ve no interest in that. PC gaming is boring to me. I want fun, social gaming: in-room multiplayer (i.e, other, living breathing human beings in the same room with me) with untraditional controls (i.e., voice and gesture controls of Kinect). So I don’t give a shit what PC nerds are doing with Steam. Steam is boring.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Losing my ownership rights over my discs was not worth the gimmick of having my entire library with me “at all times” (and considering this generation, it would have been on the same console for many years, so it would have been utterly pointless).

      “In-room multiplayer?” “other, living breathing human beings in the same room with me?” You can do that already, it’s called LAN. And yes, Kinect is garbage no matter which way you spin it.

    • coip

      Yeah, I sure want me some discs. Nothing beats constantly getting up and opening the disc tray and taking out the old disc and putting in a new one every time I want to change games. And scratched discs are the best. I’m sure glad those will still be around. Physical media sucks. Having your entire library with you at all times, being able to share games digitally, being able to instantly hot swap between games using voice commands, and never losing a game (either by actually losing the disc or having it get damaged) is not a gimmick: it’s awesome. Ask the music industry how well clinging to physical media works out. Also, you don’t own the game whether on disc, on a hard drive, on a cartridge, etc. You never have. You’ve only ever owned the license to use it, not the game itself.

      Kinect 2 is brilliant. Paired up with Illumiroom and Microsoft is changing the game forever. The amount of features it has over Sony’s sad imitations is ridiculous. The gap is huge. Sony lost the war as soon as they decided not to bundle in the Eye/Toy/Want whatever they call their Kinect rip-off. Terrible decision by a desperate company who realized Microsoft had advanced the Kinect 2 leaps beyond what they had and, rather than trying to catch up, they went the other way: regression.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Do some research: Illuminiroom is dead. http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/2/4685178/microsoft-illumiroom-xbox-projector-unlikely-to-be-released

      No one wants motion gimmickry. Sorry to break it to you.

    • coip

      Sorry to break it to you, but it’s not dead, Einstein. Work on your reading comprehension skills. It’s just too expensive to be released anytime soon. I guarantee you some version of the illumiroom will be released in the future. It may take 5 or 10 years, but it will come, all thanks to Microsoft pushing the bar, and no thanks to complacent Sony trying to milk the status quo.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Illuminiroom got cancelled so hard because no one would pay anything for a gimmicky projector that provides an awful image. MS is better off wasting its time and money on Fortaleza and even then Sony’s VR project will kick the crap out of it.

    • coip

      You clearly know nothing about technological innovation and diffusion. Cars, computers, and microwave ovens were, like all new technology, outside of the masses’ reach. As innovation progresses, costs decreased and adoption increases (further driving down the price). Illumiroom is in the alpha stages if development, and is thus expectedly out of reach for mainstream adoption. It will get there in a few years despite your naively obtuse understanding of the market. I guarantee you that.

  • Plap

    So Witch Beam has an Xbox One and Ps4 dev kit then? I assume this is an informed, hands on, opinion?

    Or is this deliberate fanboy bait designed to get hits for a new game?

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Yes, the latter unfortunately.

  • Jetman

    Most powerful console in the world? That’s cool, you’ll still have to run at below 1080p if you expect all the good nextgen eye-candy. These consoles won’t really get any “optimization” because the hardware is pretty much standard pc components. Standard HD 7850 based gpu, bad low-powered based cpu, etc. 8gb gddr5 (no better than ddr3 really). Nothing special about the design. The whole “optimization” thing is pretty much a myth anyways. Just turn down your resolution to you know, below 720p, 1024 x 768, something like that, and you can push better graphical effects. Still getting a ps4, just wanted to point out the fact that it’s easy to get every visual flourish out when you have a system running everything below what a pc does.

    • WOLF581

      “8gb gddr5 (no better than ddr3 really).” ARE YOU RETARTED OR SOMETHING ?

      DDR5 is like the hot chick in the club.
      DDR3 is her fat friend cockblocking your advances.
      GDDR5 is based on DDR3 but has double the bandwidth of DDR3 (hence why you often see a base clock and then an “effective clock” beside it in parentheses which is simply that base clock multiplied by 4 [instead of 2 with normal DDR3 memory]). Graphics cards require memory that’s extremely fast to operate optimally so instead of slapping on the “slow” DDR3 memory, they optimised it to have twice the bandwidth giving it a much higher effective speed. It is more expensive than the traditional DDR3.

  • joe

    Xbox fanboys up in here. Go read some articles talking about how powerful the xbox one is. Unless there isn’t any and you just keephappening to come to these articles

    • Guy Brohski

      I like both consoles, but to it’s credit I have to say that Xbone CPU and GPU both have a higher clockspeed than PS4. Just sayin’.

  • Ana Helušić

    PS4 WINS

    • Guy Brohski

      Because everyone is excited for Assault Android Cactus…

    • Ana Helušić

      nope for PS4

    • anon

      It looks like a great arcade action game actually.

  • Joel

    PS4 hasnt shown a single PS4 exclusive worth a damn. But if multies actually look better on PS4 and they dont get downgraded due to MS, then ya PS4 is the way to go.

    • coffeetable

      Not an Infamous: Second Son fan? That seems to be the most impressive next-gen title I’ve seen so far.

    • Joel

      thats the only game but reality is that infamous is not a halo or a gears of war. its just not. and DEF NOT a TitanFall.

    • coffeetable

      Yeah, it’s not a shooter. Open-world game, I believe. I like shooters too, but I don’t mind having a little variety when it comes to that stuff.

    • Joel

      im talking brand name, it doesnt have the same pull.

  • Krakn3dfx

    PS4 won’t have Halo, Dead Rising 3, and possibly a new Gears at some point, which means I will eventually need to own an XB1 as well as a PS4. But for now, PS4 will be my first choice.

  • headspawn

    I’m currently playing Assault Android Cactus at 4k resolution, ~60 fps on my 6 year old laptop. So I sure as fuck would hope this game is capable of running 60fps on PS4.

  • enforcer

    “The most Powerful Console in the World” in itself isn’t enough for me. Firstly, it seems that the effective difference with competitive products will be in the region of 10-20% in terms of resolution, frame rate or amount of visual FX. Will that matter? No. A 100-200% would matter somewhat. These boxes will be in the same ball park and trying to find meaningful differences between them in only nitpicking. Meaning of poor vs. good developer will be much more noticeable.
    And they both suck big time compared to high-end PCs which will be the new mid-range PCs in a couple of years. In that sense nVidia was right, consoles won’t be more powerful than PCs ever again.

    • Junior

      That’s why we are talking about consoles! Dont be an idiot… everybody knows pc is more powerful, but everybody prefers console!!

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