PS5 Will Have More TFLOPs Than Xbox One X, Sony And Microsoft Are In A TFLOPs Race – Michael Pachter

He also foresees a long life for the PS4.

Posted By | On 09th, Jul. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


We already know that Michael Pachter expects Sony to launch the PS5 in 2019, and that he expects it to be backward compatible with PS4 Pro. In and of itself, this makes it clear that Pachter does not expect Sony to necessarily respond to the presence of the Xbox One X on the market and fast track a PS5.

What, then, does he think will be the motivating drive behind a PS5 at all? According to Pachter, Sony will wait until 4K has become widespread and proliferated, and when it has become cheap, Sony will have a PS5, and it will be more powerful than the Xbox One X.

‘By the time 4K becomes affordable in 2019, PlayStation will have a 4K device, that will have more TFLOPs than the Xbox One X has, because they seem to be in a TFLOPs race,” Pachter said in an exclusive interview with GamingBolt. He also added that he foresees a long life for the PS4 regardless- if PS4 and PS4 Pro keep selling, Sony will keep them around even after the launch of the PS5, much like they have kept PS2 and PS3 around before after the launches of their successors.

All said and done, this sounds like a reasonable enough prediction to me- although I suppose my question is, will 4K have taken off to that extent by 2019?


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  • spiros spyridon

    all ps fanboys begging for an official announcement while they realize their current console is ages inferior to the X

    • C. Hoffer

      LOL.
      And what have Xbox been users doing since the release of the POS One/S??
      At the least the PS users have been able to play games with more powerful hardware since 2013. Now Xbox X users will have that same privilege….4 years later. lol

    • Will

      Yawn. There really isn’t much power difference between PS4/XOne. It’s simply harder to utilize the memory properly to get optimal bandwidth.

      Xbox One X vs. PS4 Pro is definitely a chunky power difference.

    • spiros spyridon

      Lol more powwerful hardware ?? the same privilege? Is that what you are telling yourself to fell ok with your PS? You know very well that the leap from ps4 pro to xbox one x is much bigger than the almost non-existent difference of Xbox one s and ps4 slim.. There is not difference in graphics between ps4 pro and xbox one s because they are very similar consoles and none does true 4K. Xbox one X on the other hand has real processing power for graphics and is like a hogh end-PC costing 1,500 $. Get you facts straight LOL. Titanfall 2 runs at 6k native sometimes on the X LOL. I repeat, get your facts straight!

  • C. Hoffer

    How many people do you think have actual good quality 60fps 4k tv’s with the proper hdmi ports and HDR done right and low input lag? (read good quality 4k TV from 2016 or newer)
    We are talking about 1% or less of the market, Most of the market (Read Console) is 1080p and the 10% or so that have 4k are using garbage TV’s that don’t do gaming any favors and they don’t even know it. How could they when the vast majority of 4k tv’s are junk.
    TLDR; Real 4k gaming talk is left to the next gen consoles PS5, X2. Current ‘upgrade’ consoles are a bridge to 4k use and nothing more. In the case of the X, its also about just getting in the game finally as the One was a total POS and the One S was a too little too late POS.

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      Shhhh
      You pony nutjobs look more and more pathetic each day.

    • C. Hoffer

      LOL. Stop looking in the mirror. You’re confusing yourself with other people.
      You are so worried about being able to do 4k yet not willing to admit that you’ve been using a completely junk system for 4 years and M$ will continue to sell that junk after the X comes out. Yet you call out others for being ‘fans’. I call you out for being crazy. lol

    • Will

      Xbox One is a great system. Competitive to PS4, but with a better controller and better online network. Even the games that developers struggled to optimize the most aren’t much different from PS4 versions.

      With the UHD bluray drive, the One S is a much better hardware value than any PS4.

  • Hvd

    every one and sony is so scared of the xbox one x.i can tell there is ps5 talk already….lmao.

    the ps5 isnt coming until 2020 or 2021 then the xbox 2 will come out.

    • Holeybartender

      No one’s scared of the XB1X, anytime a new system is released there’s always speculation of a new system from the other camp. It has been this way for decades. It’s usually because there is a 2-3 year gap between each company’s console release but with PS4 and Xbox One they happen to coincide so the talk of a new console coincides as well. When they released people looked towards Nintendo for a new console and now there’s the Switch. Guess where there’s talk of a new console other than from Sony? Atari! It’s a natural progression,nothing more.

    • hvd hvd

      Everyone is scared.sony is,the bias medis is,sony fan boys are and even pc gamers are.

      A console that is more powerful the most pc rigs running games at native 4k while 80% of pc gamers ate stuck at 1080 p.yea they are scared…lmao

    • Holeybartender

      You keep telling yourself that,no one is scared of Microsoft’s console. XB1X will NEVER sell anything more than 4 million units before 2020’s PS5(or whatever console is next) and will only bump the Xbox’s sold up to 30 million. Nothing to be scared about at all.

    • Will

      “No one’s scared of the XB1X, anytime a new system is released there’s always speculation of a new system from the other camp.”

      lol. IF the “other camp” hasn’t yet released a competitor.

      Nobody was talking about PS4/Xbox One just after PS3 was released.

    • Holeybartender

      “Nobody was talking about the PS4/Xbox One just after PS3 was released”

      Yeah they were,they started in 2008 two years after PS3’s release. Also I said new system not console so that includes Nintendo DS and PlayStation Vita as well.The XB1X and Pro are not supposed to be next gen systems and supposed to be considered the same generation so they don’t count(they just happen to be in the way). Technically the next new console would be PS5 AND since the PS4 was rumored long before Xbox One and released after Xbox One (albeit a weeks difference) the PS5 is next in line to be discussed. Like I said, “No one’s scared of the XB1X”.

    • Will

      “The XB1X and Pro are not supposed to be next gen systems and supposed to be considered the same generation so they don’t count(they just happen to be in the way). ”

      If this is true, then you have a point. But the mid-gen console, the first that’s ever been released, definitely changes the dynamic. Keep in mind that the mid-gens are still sold at launch prices, and they still represent current available hardware for a console. Really the only difference between mid-gen and next-gen is the library and accessory availability.

    • Holeybartender

      It’s true,which makes the whole argument of which upgrade is better a mute point because they aren’t “supposed” to be the next gen consoles and talk of a PS5 this early is a natural progression. Yes,the mid-gen consoles do change the dynamic and by doing so they also speed up talks of a new console.The Pro and Xbox One X are nothing but newly poured speed bumps on the road to the next PS5 and Xbox Two.

      https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ps-neo-not-replace-ps4/

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-how-playstation-4k-neo-and-the-original-ps4-will-co-exist

      https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/14/microsoft-says-xbox-one-s-and-project-scorpio-wont-start-a-new-console-generation/

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/01/27/why-microsofts-scorpio-should-be-a-brand-new-console-not-an-upgraded-xbox-one/#3791888b7c25

  • Mr Xrat

    Mr Irony and his failed eyesight failing again!

  • Will

    lol. What do you mean “damage”?

    Why will anyone besides mindlessly devoted fans care how well some PS4 games do? None of them do as well as Minecraft, and nobody cares.

    lol

    • Eddie Battikha

      The damage to get PS4 Sales near 100 million which 90 million will be achievable Fall 2019 right before PS5 launch, PlayStaion has double the sales, Fanbase, and WAY more First Party Exclusives and that’ll never CHANGE.

    • Will

      And how is PS4 selling consoles “damage”? You’ve still failed to answer the question.

  • Will

    Sales of consoles is one thing. Fanbase, and paying fanbase is another.

    Apparently, Sony has around 26 mil PS Plus subscribers.
    Xbox has around 55 mil subscribers.

  • Will

    What are they going to do to Xbox?

    Xbox currently has around 55 million Gold subscribers.
    PlayStation currently has around 26 million PS Plus subscribers.

  • Will

    Well aware.
    Maybe you can explain to me how a console sale, which is a one-time purchase, and not a lot of profit, better than CONTINUALLY PAYING subscribers, who continually pay repeatedly, and with no overhead?

    Any thoughts?

  • spiros spyridon

    Here is a shot list of X vs ps4 pro:

    X-Box One X vs PS4 Pro

    Worlds Most Powerful Console
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    TRUE 4K, SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED GAMES (+60GB FOR THE 4K TEXTURES OF FORZA)
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    PLAYS TITANFALL 2 AT 6K SOMETIMES
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY WITH ORIGINAL XBOX AND 360
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    SMALLER CONSOLE (X IS SMALLER THAN THE XBOX ONE S, WHICH IS 40% SMALLER THAN XBOX ONE, PS4 PRO is SOO chunky )
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Exclusive Games On PC/Steam
    XB1X ✔ Pro ✔
    Game Gifting
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Game Sharing
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Digital Game Refunds
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Best Looking Multiplats
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Elite Controller
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Backward Compatibility
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Highest Audio/Video Bit-rates
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Refund digital games & Apps – game sharing
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Customise Controller Labs
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Dolby Atmos 7.1
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Logitech universal remote support
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Current-Gen-Games Scaled To 4K
    XB1X ✔ Pro ✔
    Next gen triple A native 4K Games
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Cross-Play with Nintendo
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    EA Access
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    HDR
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ✔️
    4K Bluray Player
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Download Hundreds Of Games $10 Month (Game Pass)
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    High Fidelity VR
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Best Online
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    4K 60FPS Video Capture
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    100+ PC/Windows 10 Apps
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    HDMI 2.0a For VR
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Retroactive Screen Capture
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Runs last gen games better
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    16x anisotropic texture filtering
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ✔️
    50% faster hdd speeds for 4k textures
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    AMD Freesync/Variable Refresh
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Shader model 6 upgrade
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    HDMI 2.1
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Dynamic HDR 4K Player
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    Radeon Freesync 2
    XB1X ✔️ Pro ❌
    PC Ultra-like Graphics (textures and assets)
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Game Controller Chatpad
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌
    Quiet Console
    XB1X ✔ Pro ❌

    AND for ps4? some constroversial exclusives that will be outdated and will look bad next year, like Uncharted (copy of Tomb raider).


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