Should Sony and Microsoft Offer Trade In Promotions For PS4 NEO And Xbox One Scorpio?

Something like this may be necessary to keep customers pacified and bring them on board with the new paradigm.

Posted By | On 26th, May. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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At this point, the existence of the PlayStation 4 Neo and the Xbox One Scorpio is all but confirmed. The two new machines will be mid cycle refreshes of the hardware that also bump up the specs a bit, sort of like the New Nintendo 3DS was to the Nintendo 3DS- so it’s going to be the same console, but with improved specs.

For a lot of people, this is a bit unacceptable- after all, one buys a console so one doesn’t have to worry about upgrading their system, like they do with PCs- the deal is, you buy a console once, and you are set for the next 5-7 years. And while the existence of the PS4 Neo and Xbox One Scorpio will definitely not make your old consoles incapable of playing games, it does mean that they are no longer cutting edge.

With the New Nintendo 3DS, which came a good four years after the initial launch of the 3DS, Nintendo had several trade in schemes and promotions in place- this, plus the long gap in time between the initial 3DS and the revision, made the concept of a mid cycle bump more palatable to people. Should Sony and Microsoft maybe have a similar kind of trade in program in place, to make the transition into an era of iterative consoles easier for customers?

I have previously made the argument for iterative consoles on GamingBolt– I sincerely believe they are the way to the future of console gaming. A lot of my arguments were illustrated with comparisons drawn to mobiles and handhelds- however, one must keep in mind, with mobiles and handhelds, there are always trade in schemes in place to facilitate a transition to the newest model. If Sony and Microsoft want the PS4 Neo and Xbox One Scorpio to be received well, they may want to consider offering similar rebates and benefits to owners of the existing models.


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  • theduckofdeath

    This is an odd question. Different approaches fit better with different products. I don’t feel either company “should” feel obliged to offer a trade in program. However, here may be some limited time offers presented. Buyers got years of utility out of either console, with years more to come, and upgrading is an simply an option.

  • KashIsKlay

    The scorpio is xbox two so no. As for the Neo maybe

    • Edonus

      That doesn’t make sense….. they are both spec upgrades to their current systems. In that sense they are the same.

    • KashIsKlay

      Except one is much more of a upgrade. And the release mirrors the length of time between the original xbox and 360

    • Edonus

      That’s the dumbest reasoning I ever heard……… one is more of an upgrade than another so that makes it a different console but not the other?
      Ps4 is going from 1.8 to 4 teraflops that more than double Xbox going from 1.5 – 6 teraflops. Those both huge. Neither one is changing their OS and base gaming architecture and both old systems will have forward compatibility. And the Ps4 is running in he same length of time of the original Xbox to the 360 too…… all because they are a different brand doesn’t mean the same rules don’t apply.

    • KashIsKlay

      Nope

    • Brad Wilson

      Not really, but I can understand why so many view it that way. The reality is that consoles will operate like phones and PCs in their upgrade schemes going forward. The “platform” is now the OS and APIs, which will span multiple hardware generations. This is no different than buying a Galaxy S6 to replace an S5. It’s still the same platform, just a new hardware SKU. But, it is absolutely a new generation.

    • chaz

      Pretty sure the Xbox 2 and the Scorpio are two different things?

    • KashIsKlay

      How? Phil said he wasn’t found of a 1.5. If it’s not dropping this year it will definitely be the next gen xbox. Only 4 years between 360 and original xbox. Same thing this time around.

    • chaz

      He said he wasn’t fond of a 1.5, in that any incremental upgrade he made would be more substantial than the then rumored 4.5 was.

    • KashIsKlay

      Yes so why would they launch a substantial upgrade when the next gen nintendo console is coming in 2017 and that would be the perfect time to launch the next gen xbox. The traditional console cycle is 5 years. I don’t see why they would launch a mere upgrade a year or so before a “next gen xbox” So more than likely this will serve as the next gen xbox. It will just be BC from day one. original xbox successor launched 4 years after it’s release. This is just history repeating itself. It can be marketed as a true next gen console compared to a update that the ps4k is going to be.

    • Psionicinversion

      the nintendo is going to be weak. it isnt going be much more powerful than the current xbox

    • KashIsKlay

      True but it’s still their next gen console.

    • Brad Wilson

      I don’t think Sony or Microsoft take Nintendo into consideration when making decisions. Nintendo’s really in it’s own separate industry.

    • hiawa23

      It is clear Phil takes his orders from the higher ups, so MS will do what MS wants to do, not Phil.

    • KashIsKlay

      I guess that’s why the xbox era improved drastically from the Mattrick era huh

    • Barkonius

      There are going to be at least 2 new SKUs released for the Xbox one. The first will be a slimmer xbox one, tat has a larger hard drive and can do 4k video playback only, NOT games, just 4k Netflix and the like, and I’m not sure about VR gaming.

      The second SKU is going to be the Xbox Scorpio, which is an upgraded system. It has 4k gaming and video capability, as well as VR. It has increased specs and will play all games that are currently playable on xbox one, including BC xbox 360 games. If a game has certain features that were scaled down or turned off due to hardware limits in the Xbox one, they will be turned on on the Xbox scorpio.

      This was all in a press release already.

    • KashIsKlay

      I’m well aware

    • theduckofdeath

      XBOX Two Cold Scorpio? LOL

  • Edonus

    I don’t feel they have to offer a trade in or upgrade program…… but I would like if they did and I would definitely take advantage of it.

  • Michael Meritt

    Unless the ‘old’ consoles are worth a large portion of the cost in Materials, I don’t know if this is likely. Especially if they don’t plan on refurbishing

  • TPoppaPuff

    Should they? Yes, obviously. They should do right by their most loyal customers.

    Will they? No, absolutely not. They will bleed their most loyal customers until they’re dried husks.

    • theduckofdeath

      As manufacturers, Sony and MS can let the retailers and resellers handle any kind of trade in program. Why would they want to get involved it that?

    • TPoppaPuff

      They’re not just manufacturers; they are developers of closed systems. They are the sole entity in charge of the Xbox and PlayStation brands and consoles. That’s why you don’t see a Toshiba Xbox or a Samsung PS4.

      They don’t want to do anything, but the argument that they should is based on the idea that it’s bad to screw over your most ardent fanbase.

    • Barkonius

      Why wouldn’t they? Both Sony and Microsoft offered trade-in programs for the ps4 and Xbox one, respectively. A trade-in deal is an incentive to get people to be early adopters of their new hardware and helps drive sales.

    • TPoppaPuff

      Except those with Xbox Ones and PS4s aren’t being lured into a new ecosystem. The Xbox One at launch didn’t play 360 games and the 360 didn’t play future Xbox One titles. There was a reason to make sure players reinvested. The PS4 didn’t play PS3 games and the PS3 doesn’t play PS4 games, meaning each company had reasons to make sure people reinvested in their ecosystem. We already know that Xbox One and PS4 are forward compatible. Even if those people never upgrade to Neo/Scorpio, they are already invested in their respective ecosystems and will get that same money because those future games are all compatible with the consoles they already own. MS and Sony weren’t going to make money on people without a console that plays current games. Now, MS and Sony will still make that same money on people because they will still be able to current games even if they run worse.

      I wish each company offered an upgrade program. I truly do. But from the business side it would be absolutely stupid of them to do it and Sony literally couldn’t even afford to do it if they wanted to.

  • kee1haul

    Not really. The manufacturers make products that you can choose to buy or not. In the phone market, you can sell them to 3rd party for some of the value.

  • hiawa23

    Should they, well yes, reality tells me no. You take a risk buying any electronics. No one says you have to buy. I plan on upgrading both my X1 and PS4.

  • Hvd

    they will not.buy it if you can afford it.

  • Brad Wilson

    They already have a trade-in program: selling your current console on craigslist to offset the cost of your upgrade. They won’t to anything else because it doesn’t make sense to do so. Console hardware is going to be released more frequently now, because it has to, and each console platform is now defined by software (OS and APIs) instead of hardware SKUs.

  • R6ex

    Might as well just stick to PC. Same upgrade logic. Better visuals. Cheaper Steam games. Purchased games will not have compatibility issues (like those moving from PS2 to PS3). Modding available. Free online multiplayer gaming.

  • Simon Spencer

    I wholeheartedly agree with Pramath’s statements – it’s one thing to release a new game in a franchise every two years, but a new all-in-one entertainment console is taking the piss. Granted it’s because XB1 and PS4 simply can’t handle VR nowhere as well as anyone expected, but that’s no excuse.

    We live in a world now where most people can’t afford to spend $500 every couple of years on consoles, following a long period of austerity. A trade-in from XB1 to Scorpio, or PS4 to PS4 Neo, shouldn’t be too much to demand from the industry.

  • Erik Jacobsen

    Yes, they should, because I just bought the Xbox one a few months ago. If they don’t offer some sort of trade-in / credit, I’m sticking with Steam and GOG on PC.


 

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