Sony Has Certain Parity Policies As Well, Microsoft’s Indie Requirements Are Not Unreasonable – Dev

Grip Games’ Jakub Mikyska on indie policies of Sony and Microsoft.

Posted By | On 25th, Apr. 2015 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


Tower of Guns

Microsoft’s indie parity clause has been a subject of much debate ever since Microsoft announced the ID@Xbox policy at Gamescom 2013. Several developers in the past have outright mentioned their grievances with the parity clause whereas some have taken a neutral stance on it. In the past, Xbox One executives have mentioned that the parity clause can be tweaked if developers speak to them and bring along exclusive content for the Xbox platform.

Grip Games’ Tower of Guns is one of the many indie games that is available on both PS4 and Xbox One. GamingBolt recently got in touch with Grip Games’ Jakub Mikyska to have a chat on several topics including the indie policies of both companies. Surprisingly, Jakub revealed that Sony have their own set of parity policies as well, although he did not mentioned what it includes.

“Both Sony and Microsoft have their own policies and things you have to keep in order to be able to self-publish. Sony has certain parity policies as well. Both have certain content requirements, etc.”

He further explains that Microsoft’s policy on indies are not unfair and if developers speak to them, things can be worked on and agreed upon.

“I think that Microsoft’s requirements are not unreasonable and are quite understandable and what’s more, if you cannot keep them for any reason, you usually just need to ask and give a good reason and anything can be agreed on. We never really had any issue with Microsoft’s policies,” Jakub explained to GamingBolt.

These comments by Jakub possibly indicate that there are a lot of things going in the background that none of us really know. But what are your thoughts on this matter? Let us know in the comments section below.


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  • Drake Richter

    It’s simple. Bashing Microsoft is trendy so let’s all do that from a position of ignorance. Then we can all be happily ignorant together.

    • Masyer

      agreed

    • Johan Spånberg

      Yep, if company bullying was a thing… Microsoft is the main target.

    • Modi Rage

      Microsoft receives hate because they deserve it. Microsoft is one of the most monopolistic, greedy, and dishonest companies in the world who bully every company that opposes them.

    • XboxGamer33

      Lmao do you really think Sony is innocent of anything? Their lackluster online security, their fake movie critics to bolster movie scores, their basically criminal prices for PSP proprietary memory. Cmon now you can’t be naïve

    • andy

      €50 for a 32gb proprietary card when you can buy an SD microsd card for €25 is NOTHING compared to the €190 120gb 360 Hard Drives last gen when I could buy a 750gb HDD for my PS3 for €90.

      If the Vita cards are “criminal” I don’t think they invented a word yet for the hard drives on 360.

    • XboxGamer33

      I literally can buy a 32GB SD card for about $30, while a vita 32GB is about $70. Both these prices are from Amazon. So please stay relevant on the topic because it was the exact same bs for the PSP and you know it. The proprietary memory is overcharged to the max. But keep on deflecting

    • HisDivineOrder

      I didn’t see him say Sony was innocent. He was talking about Microsoft. Just because Sony’s as bad does not take away from the sheer bad of Microsoft.

      Or are you saying because one’s like that then it’s okay that another do it? You’re defending Microsoft’s bad with, “Well, well, Sony’s bad, too!”

      Because that’s not really a good defense. It’s just you effectively saying that indeed Microsoft is everything he said and then adding, “so is Sony.”

      You could have saved yourself some trouble by just upvoting him if that’s the case since you’re agreeing.

    • Johan Spånberg

      What bad has Microsoft done during this millenium?

    • Drake Richter

      Your autocorrect replaced Apple with Microsoft, you should fix it. Just a heads up.

    • Johan Spånberg

      You need to take off your hate-glasses from the 90’s and look at them today…

      Sony is the Company that installed rootkits on our computers just because we wanted to listen to Music…

    • Fweds

      Notice UPVOTE BOT has been used on this comment to upvote the omment, compliments of “”I’M FLAT OUT RIGHT”

    • andy

      Oh wow. You bring up the word “bullying” on a parity and indies related article. The VERY thing that Xbox WERE experts at.

      What am I talking about and why aren’t they now? They can’t bully indie devs anymore because they don’t have the market share to do this generation.

    • Johan Spånberg

      Oh really? Tell me how much bullying Microsoft has done against indie-developers on their platforms during the years. Microsoft opened up their gaming consoles to indie-developers alot sooner than Nintendo or Sony did.

    • David

      Well said. That’s what this generation has been about.

    • Exposure Levels

      Microsoft receives a lot of deserved bashing. Don’t try and play the victim card on poor widdle Microsoft.

    • Drake Richter

      Microsoft also receives a lot of undeserved bashing, which was the point of the comment. Don’t try to go off-topic.

    • HisDivineOrder

      …you said something. He said you were wrong. Then you said he’s going off-topic. You saying him going off-topic is YOU going off-topic, I think. 😉

      Now you’ve dragged ME off-topic.

    • Drake Richter

      No.

      I said something, he said something that does not contradict and is only somewhat related to what I said, unless he’s trying to imply that ALL bashing against Microsoft is reasonable and deserved.
      I decided to give him more credit than that, though it looks like that may have been a mistake judging by his next reply.

    • phar0ahad3

      Defending microsoft is like defending the devil ……….all they wanna do is screw people over they literally have done nothing i can say oh good job microsoft sony has done tons …………………

    • Drake Richter

      Please, for the love of reason, read what you wrote and think about it for a moment. Really think. Consider that maybe you can’t say ‘good job’ not because they’ve done nothing praiseworthy, but because you might have a less than complete understanding of the things Microsoft has done in the, what, 40 years it has been active? It’s older than most of the people reading these comments.

      Consider that for a moment – tens of thousands of employees working for longer than you have probably been alive, and you consider yourself well-versed enough in their history and accomplishments (overt or otherwise) to say that they’ve done nothing praiseworthy and exist only to harm.

      Why on earth does everything have to be mired in ‘us vs. them’ mentality?

    • phar0ahad3

      tell me one thing they ever did good ?…..nuff said

    • Drake Richter

      Well, off the top of my head there are the major projects designed to help disabled folks live fuller and more independent lives. For example:

      http://www.amsvans.com/blog/microsoft-tablet-helps-nfl-player-with-als-talk-and-move/

      And:

      http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29913637

      Care to revise your earlier statement?

    • phar0ahad3

      NOPE first all microsoft didnt approach people in any of those 2 situations to help them second off the article sounds like shill to try to sell microsoft tablets and phones smh ive seen that before and third these are just microsoft making products to cover themselves for the future and then people find other uses for them but regardless i dont see goodwill in anything there doing

    • Drake Richter

      They actually did approach people in both situations. They aren’t trying to sell products in either case – neither of those scenarios represents even a remotely significant commercial opportunity. And please enlighten us as to how you believe Microsoft is ‘covering itself for the future’ by investigating ways to aid real people with life-changing disabilities. I’m sure you’ll manage to pull it off without sounding offensive.

      And while you’re formulating your answer, please do consider the fact that being unable to see or understand something doesn’t make that thing any less valid, it just makes you unable to contribute meaningfully to the discussion.

      It boggles my mind that this fanboy wars fad has driven people this far off the deep end…

    • phar0ahad3

      As i stated show proof they directly worked with these people which in both articles they did not ……..and as i said there covering themselves for the future the ear piece is probably there version of googlemaps for someone who is walking maybe in major cities or something and the other is just the windows 8 interface which many people dislike even thou its nice its helping some people i beleive none of that was intentional unless you show proof even if it was history has proven microsoft is desperate to sell tablets and phones i can go into one of the articles and show proof but what does it matter this doesnt cover for all of there sins the company was founded on others work anyways there famous because of one thing that wasnt even invented by them smh

    • Drake Richter

      So, if I understood that wall of text correctly, you are belittling real progress on demonstrably helpful technologies making the lives of real people better, attempting to raise the bar by demanding ‘proof’, and then in the same breath invalidating that demand by saying that you refuse to be swayed anyway.

      SMH indeed!

    • phar0ahad3

      How am i belittling it by saying i want proof microsoft was directly involved ? lmao great dodge indeed sir because you know you wont find proof so your trying to play the pity game tons of companies have made tons of products that assist handicap people now if that was there initial goal is questionable but anyways forget microsoft this conversation is supposed to be about xbox and gamers but the whole company is indeed poison imo ive never seen any good news and you just further proved that because honestly even what sony did in this article isnt that good there obviouslly doing it for publicity because sony is in financial issues wht really matters is what they do for ALL of us and microsoft has tried many times to SCREW US ALL while sony literally saved us the before last E3

    • Drake Richter

      No no, asking for proof is reasonable. I was referring instead to the instant dismissal of the endeavor as insignificant.

      And no, the conversation was about Microsoft in general, if you’ll refer to my initial comment; kindly try to avoid jumping around to different topics.

      Now please, if you read NO OTHER PART of this comment, at least read this. You have been presented two articles expressing ways in which Microsoft helps individuals with life-altering impairments, and just said ‘the whole company is indeed poison imo ive never seen any good news’. You are, quite literally, ignoring facts that do not agree with the worldview you have chosen to subscribe to. It’s fanaticism, and it’s bad, mkay?

      I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that sony ‘literally saved us’, because I shudder to think of how you might justify using the word ‘literally’ in that context. Instead, let’s move along to the proof that you requested, indicating that Microsoft reached out to people and worked directly on these projects. Let’s start with an excerpt from an article on Steve Gleason, the man with Lou Gherig’s disease mentioned in one of those previous articles:

      “It was at the 2013 Social Innovation Summit at the United Nations in New York City that Yvonne Thomas saw Gleason present about his work with Team Gleason.

      Thomas had attended WSU at the same time as Gleason, and, although they didn’t know each other directly, she knew of him. She also happened to be a senior program manager of Microsoft’s Citizenship organization.

      Thomas had her own lightning-bolt moment. “He’s the kind of guy who simply refuses to give up. Instead, he sees opportunity and you want to be part of that,” she said. “I was inspired by him to think about what’s possible and knew that he and Microsoft together could make a tangible difference for people with ALS and other medical issues.””

      So that’s one down. A link for your convenience: http://news.microsoft.com/stories/people/steve-gleason.html

      The other project that I mentioned is a broader initiative without any particular spokesman, but may I direct your attention to this excerpt:

      “This project is the result of a unique partnership between Microsoft, the charity Guide Dogs, and a number of other partners including Network Rail, Reading Buses, the urban planning agency Future Cities Catapult, the Reading Borough Council and the grocer Tesco (not to mention the understanding neighbors on Tamarisk Avenue).”

      Pay close attention to the word unique. It’s not like everyone is doing this, Microsoft has chosen to partner with many other organizations in a serious push to get this technology into the hands (onto the heads?) of those who might benefit.

      A link for your convenience: http://news.microsoft.com/stories/independence-day/

      Those stories took very little effort to find, just do a simple search. I’m sure you can turn up more if you actually care to look beyond the cage you’ve erected around yourself.

      That’s a metaphor, by the way. Please don’t start asking me to prove a physical cage.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      And what bashing does Microsoft get that is undeserved? Please tell me. I gotta see it.

    • drjonesjnr

      Well said

    • Drake Richter

      It appears that Disquis ate my previous response for reasons known only to it.

      Let me just quote the above user who provided a convenient example: “Defending microsoft is like defending the devil ……….all they wanna do is screw people over they literally have done nothing i can say oh good job microsoft sony has done tons …………………”

      It’s an extreme example of the pervasive kind of thinking I was referring to in my original comment. If that sounds like reasonable criticism to you, well… Talking to me isn’t going to help.

    • Jecht_Sin

      MS isn’t Apple which gets bashed because some losers hate expensive high quality products. MS gets bashed because it’s the Mafia of the IT industry.

    • Drake Richter

      Neither Microsoft nor Apple are exactly upstanding citizens. Do a little research on how Apple does business, and see what you find when you look beyond the high profile PR stunts.

      And if you truly believe that expensive automatically equals high quality, more power to you. As it is they sacrifice too much for my tastes, particularly when you can get similar design aesthetics and reliability with vastly better performance or flexibility elsewhere.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      Apple and Microsoft are both dirty and monoplistic corporations that abuse their power over the computer industry. Microsoft makes a lot of money despite little innovation simply because consumers don’t have other choices. But at least Apple actually innovated in the past.

      Name 1 significant industry revolutionizing product that Microsoft ever invented.

    • HisDivineOrder

      Microsoft Word? DirectX? Ergonomic mice? Stealing PC innovations and porting them to consoles with fees/restrictions added (ie., indie titles in Live Arcade, Xbox Live Gold subscriptions, wifi adapters as an add-on for extra cost, selling hard drives for 4x the actual cost, etc)?

      I think you’d be better off asking what innovation have they done in the last ten years or twenty years. Because Microsoft’s days of iterative innovation, even in riffing on the ideas of others, are long gone.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      Microsoft Word wasn’t an industry revolutionizing product. It was a copy of Bravo. A simple program that others could make isn’t very amazing.

      Direct X is a rip off of Open GL. It was not a revolutionizing feature that another company couldn’t have easily made. Direct X was created to keep developers and hardware companies on Windows. It was only adopted because of Xbox and Direct X is not a “good” thing for the industry because it is proprietary to Microsoft’s brand.

      Xbox Live Arcade was not innovative or revolutionary. Most studios start off as indie studios. Indie devs were making games for PlayStation, PC, and Nintendo long before Xbox Live Arcade ever existed.

      Xbox Live Gold Subscription was not innovative or revolutionary. If I stood in front of your car and charged you $60 before you could drive it, would that be innovative? Now PS+ actually started by giving people value in exchange for a subscription by offerring monthly games. Xbox Live Gold subscription was nothing more than a paywall.

      Microsoft has innovated some minor software side things, but not anywhere near the impact or importance that companies like Apple, Sony, and many others have. Microsoft created a simple operating system for IBM and planted it like a seed that grew like cancer. Now they spend there time trying to maintain a monoply by controlling hardware companies and ripping off Apple, Google, Netscape, Sony, and many others. That is all Microsoft is.

    • GotNews4Ya

      Microsoft Word was a copy of Corel Word Perfect as Well.. It just monopolized the market.. and now you can only purchase Windows bs..

    • Cyberats

      There is OpenOffice for free, looks better and 100% file compatible. Functionality wise, everyone would prefer it and I don’t know what it does not do vs. MS.

    • Drake Richter

      You’re minimizing the thing you dislike and vaguely glorifying alternatives without any demonstrable depth to your understanding of the subject matter. Please don’t do that, it looks silly.

    • Cyberats

      Yes, you are most annoying doing just that.
      (not wrong post)

    • Drake Richter

      Good of you to clarify exactly where your lack of contribution was meant to be directed. Much appreciated.

    • Cyberats

      You forget IBM had it’s own operating systems in use, some of the most efficient IBM OS/2 Warp. All gobbled up by the windows machine.

    • Drake Richter

      The fact that you can’t think of any instance of Microsoft innovation shows that you are either being willfully ignorant or outright trolling.

      Do you have even an inkling of how complicated a product like Windows or the modern versions of Office are? The underlying technologies involved? Hololens?

    • Fweds

      Nice UPBOT BOT you are using

    • Cyberats

      Yes, but Windows were virtually Pirated from Xerox to Apple and now Microsoft is at the head of anti-piracy in the software industry. No you’re not dealing with Just a pirate, but with the Black Beard of all Pirates – William Gates.

    • Drake Richter

      Taking already-existing technologies and improving upon them or using them in new ways – whether hardware or software – is basically how technology works.

      Having a decades-old grudge against a corporation is cute and all but it’s not exactly likely to sway many people in a discussion.

    • Cyberats

      Yes, but the way BUSINESS works is that you pay a percentage of your net income to the original patent designer, from however many sources you “improved” no wait, reverse engineered their technology and took it for your own (the very definition of copyright violation).
      Microsoft didn’t pay a dime and along the way they tried to repeat the exercise on many fronts, like Sun Microsystems Java and Silverlight, Sun Microsystems won the lawsuit, so you better remove Silverlight from your windows system.
      No technology does not improve by Stealing from others.

    • Drake Richter

      Ah, I see, you’re one of those types. Your own personal grudges against Microsoft aside, do tell us more how you know every facet of how these technologies came to be, who copied who, etc. I’m sure it will have a very meaningful impact on the end user.

    • Cyberats

      One of those types that will point the truth no matter how inconvenient to self or others.
      It has impact on the daily user’s wallets every day, they buy MS Office licenses and get stuck unable to download their software, they call a pirate company in India that puts a virus on their computer that locks it up, then demand upwards of $250 to unlock it. That’s what a Master Pirate does and has gone from Illegitimate to Heyyyooo Pillage, Rape & Plunder. Who in their right mind would pay for MS anything from now on ?
      Win7 is my last MS OS and as soon as I am done building a gamer PC, my work will be on a Linux machine. At least I have the open code and modify its security myself, should I need it.

    • Drake Richter

      “Win 7 is my last MS OS”

      So you do admit that you have no idea what you’re talking about, then? You do realize that’s an old OS, right?

      MS Office isn’t terribly expensive, comes bundled in various forms with various devices, and downloading it is far from problematic.

      And it sounds like you’re blaming Microsoft for scammers in foreign countries… I suppose they’re behind the Nigerian Prince letters too!

      I encourage you, once again, to take a long, hard look at your arguments and consider whether or not they really sound sane.

    • Cyberats

      You’re one of those Trendy Fashionistas that has no idea of technology aren’t you ? I’ve been wasting my time on you. Goobye Moron.
      PS: Microsoft directs phone calls to those scammers, I’ve called Microsoft to begin with.

    • Drake Richter

      I’m no professional, but I know my way around current technology well enough. Once you can say the same the paying field may be level.

      You may want to take a break though, as you seem to be upset. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but calling someone a moron on the internet has about as much sting as a dry paper towel and does precious little to advance your argument.

      As to your phone issues, it sounds as though you got scammed by a third party. It happens a lot to the technically challenged, don’t feel bad.

    • Cyberats

      NO ! I do not say the playing field is leveled. I am an IT professional, have worked as MIS/DBM and a little programming. I know a lot about Microsoft and not much about Apple.
      Take your pathetic insults elsewhere mook, you got no brains to argue about this subject, much less technical expertise.

    • Drake Richter

      Erm, you seem to be confused. The ones with the little ball wearing glasses are actually YOUR posts, meaning those flailing attempts at insults are your words, not mine!

      And if you were an IT professional you would probably know that reading news articles about technology is not the same as having experience with it, so you wouldn’t be arguing with me from a self-admitted position of ignorance.

    • Nathan O

      uh it isn’t the 90s anymore dude

    • HisDivineOrder

      Bada-boom, bada-bing.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      Nice try. Sony does not have the same policies like Microsoft’s “parity clause “. Looks like Gamingbolt, the Microsoft defense force, and this dev are spreading half truths and lies trying to defend poor old helpless and greedy Microsoft.

      This parity clause doesn’t even make sense. Why is Microsoft’s parity clause even there if they’re just letting some games past it? Simple! The parity clause allows Microsoft to abuse market position and allows Microsoft to bully developers. The only reason why Microsoft is letting some games past their parity clause is because Xbox One doesn’t have the dominant market share, because Xbox One has way less games, and because of backlash. Sorry Microsoft defense force, the parity clause should not exist.

      Looks like Sony does not deny devs just because they may have put their games on other platforms first. Big difference.
      http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-one/sony-jabs-at-microsofts-parity-clause/

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    • Starman

      You sound like a 12 yr old Sony FANBOY ….

    • Fweds

      Correct, also all his posts should be flagged for taking news off topic.

      If it’s positive Xbox news he posts negative comments.

      If it’s positive Sony news he will talk it up and argue with anyone with a different opinion.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      My comment is on topic. I simply call out liars when I see them.

    • Drake Richter

      That has not been my observation in this thread, which has been my only contact with you this far, and it seems you have a reputation for it.

      Perhaps when even an outsider recognizes it right away, it might be time to reevaluate your approach?

    • Michael Norris

      The issue he is taking towards is how gamingbolt always puts MS in the limelight while they continue to bash Sony.This webite should be renamed Xboxbolt.

    • Cyberats

      Hear ! Hear ! Well Said.

    • kreator

      LOL

    • drjonesjnr

      Only hipsters defend Microsoft on the internet 🙁

    • bardock5151

      Only hipsters defend Sony on the internet.

    • drjonesjnr

      Wow what a come back -_-

    • bardock5151

      A stupid comment deserves little creativity in turn.

    • drjonesjnr

      Rinse repeat,very intelligent mate well done

    • Drake Richter

      Well if we’re being fair, he raised a valid point.

    • drjonesjnr

      Which was?

    • Drake Richter

      That your contribution was neither terribly creative nor terribly insightful, and therefore isn’t likely to garner much of either in a response.

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      But you make stupid comments all of the time. Do you enjoy bending over for Microsoft?

    • bardock5151

      This ^^^ coming from someone that willingly shills in huge rants that contain nothing but purely subjective content?
      It’s alright princess, I know logic escapes you.

    • Drake Richter

      The irony of that statement is absolutely priceless.

    • Cyberats

      Or millions of current MS employees, even if in India or China.
      There are no accents in blog chats…;-)

    • Cyberats

      Not Bashing Microsoft is a position of ignorance, given that Steve Ballmer left the corporation following the Win8 Debacle with 90% of users saying they hate the OS on PCs. Be ignorant all you want, but you will not win public opinion, truth or reason while employed by Microsoft, in any public chat room.

    • Drake Richter

      That’s incredibly narrow-minded of you. Let me help:

      1) Ballmer != Microsoft
      2) 80% of statistics online are made up on the spot
      3) Hating something because it’s different and requires adjustment does not make that thing objectively bad
      4) Not everyone who disagrees with you is paid to do so, please take off your tinfoil hat.

    • Cyberats

      Ballmer no longer being with MS because of his messing up the software, caching millions, then leaving the corporation, MS irresponsible act (I).
      The FACT that a majority of users hate Win8 can be calculated by the amount of Win8 machines bought & returned to stores and the widespread availability of a myriad of “Start Button” software. Do your own research, I was in the field, I already KNOW the truth, I don’t have to believe someone’s lies. Cover up and denial act (II).
      Having X-Box kiddie buttons, touting software that is neither on the computer nor purchased is FALSE ADVERTISING. It is SUBJECTIVELY BAD, having an OS that takes more control from the Inexperienced User, down to the Expert User, away and putting it in the hands of MS. Making Regress towards a Mainframe network where none of your software resides on your computer, your functionality depending on the Mainframe server, turns your terraflop moving PC into an expensive PAPERWEIGHT. An operating system that was molested to fit cellphones, POS & especially designed to work on tablets & touch screens, FAILED to serve the PC consumer industry in any fashion. Check Mate (III).
      A tinfoil hat sold by Microsoft however…(IV)

    • Drake Richter

      By far the best part is that you don’t appear to realize how utterly insane you sound to an ordinary individual.

      If you’re expecting me to change my opinion based upon your rambling personal issues with the history of the company behind the products, I’m afraid you’ll be disappointed.

      Are you planning on addressing the fact that you’ve admitted to having no meaningful experience with the modern tech Microsoft has put out or are we just going to skim over that?

    • Cyberats

      You’re no ordinary individual, you’re one who is looking for an argument and have no knowledge or experience in anything. You ARE the weakest Link, Goodbye !

    • Drake Richter

      I’d call that creative, but I’d be lying. Do tell me more about all the things you think you know, though. There seems to be no end to them!
      And when you get a chance please do try to gain a little experience with the subject matter, I’m sure it will help you sound a little less loony.

  • I’m Flat Out Right

    Sony does not have a parity policy like Microsoft’s. Gamingbolt and this dev are spreading half truths and lies trying to defend Microsoft’s bad business practices. This dev is dumb. Then why is the parity clause there? The parity clause allows Microsoft to abuse market position andallows Microsoft to bully developers.

    Sony does not deny devs just because they may have put their games on other platforms first. The only reason why Microsoft is letting some games past their parity clause is because Xbox One doesn’t have the dominant market share, because Xbox One has way less games, and because of backlash. The parity clause should not exist. Sorry Xbox defense force.

    http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/03/sony-takes-another-shot-at-xbox-policies/

    • XboxGamer33

      Ah a game developer with a published game is now a liar because it’s bad press on Sony? You do realize these devs on ID@Xbox get subsidized dedicated server costs and free dev kits? The dedicated servers alone would cripple an indie developer. But let’s spread half truths

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      No, if the dev is a liar then it’s because he’s a liar. Simple as that.

      He is spreading half truths because Sony’s policies are not the same as Microsoft’s “parity clause “. Sony has certain tests that games must pass before the game is released just like all platforms. Sony isn’t going to just let a dev intentionally give the PS4 a bad port. However, Sony doesn’t deny games just because they were released on other platforms first. Big difference.

      Microsoft doesn’t just give away servers for “free”. That is called a half truth or a lie.

      Sony and Microsoft both give away dev kits.

    • XboxGamer33

      Lmao you deleted one thing to post it exactly the same. Sony gives Dev kits out on a one year rent

      http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-loaning-out-ps4-dev-kits-to-developers-free-of-charge-for-a-year/1100-6412084/

      Unity is free for developers, but that’s after MS and even backwards Nintendo has been doing it first.

      To actually believe that Sony, a large corporation, is just handing out game rights to everyone that forms a group name is absurd and ignorant. But you’re the first to yell conspiracy whenever it’s an anti-Sony article

    • efnet

      You’re not even a developer lol you couldn’t even develop a way out of a paper bag let alone develop anything published on a console so please tell me how would you know what sony has in place

    • andy

      Exactly, “Sony Has Certain Parity Policies As Well”. Nice words, EVEN in the title title too, without actually any actual elaboration WHATSOEVER.
      Only at Gamingbone would there be such a unneeded negative to PlayStation article of course.

    • efnet

      Have you read it? Ofcourse so not so how do you know? Please explain

    • If you knew anything about rational choice theory, you’d know that the parity clause is brilliant. In fact, its only flaw is that it’s not rigid enough. Microsoft is smart for having it. Anyone who argues otherwise is someone who is theoretically and empirically misinformed, or, if not that, then is someone who allows emotion to trump reason. Either way–ignorant or emotional–that’s a stupid thing to be in the business world.

    • Clate

      Do you want Xbox to get no games at all? A lot of devs cant do 2 platforms at once and who do you think they are going to release on first the one that is easier to develop for and is selling at nearly 3x the pace or the harder to develop for one with a smaller base?

    • Because the Xbox One + PS4 user base > just the PS4 user base. Rational choice theory dictates that developers who can’t do two platforms simultaneously should therefore do Xbox One first. Most games development costs are sunk costs, so you want to release on as many platforms as possible. Releasing on the larger user base first may seem like a good idea, but not if it costs you the ability to release on the second largest user base too. Millions upon millions of potential consumers would be lost.

    • Clate

      LOL that explains why Indies are flocking to the Xbox One. Oh wait…. They are all on PS4 and PC the platforms that don’t restrict them.

    • What you just posted is evidence that most indie developers make terrible business decisions, either because they’re not theoretically and empirically informed on basic economic data or, just as damaging, they’re letting emotion trump reason. Any informed, rational indie developer who wants to maximize profits would not violate the Xbox One’s parity clause, especially because the other platforms don’t have one. That’s a no brainer, but many people ostensibly have no brains, and that’s why most indie developers struggle greatly to stay afloat.

    • Clate

      XD LOL its you who doesn’t understand business at all. Indies are going with the stronger brand the one that has outsold the other 3x in a row. You do realize the parity clause is almost gone right? MS was tired of Sony getting all the games

    • I’m glad you’re not running my business, as you’d run it into the ground. Here’s a hint for you: two user bases > one user base. It doesn’t matter if a gerbillion Playstations are sold because a gerbillion plus millions is always greater than a gerbillion. Econ 101: hit more consumers to recuperate sunk costs.

    • Clate

      I could handle your lemonade stand just fine 🙂

      But you are soooooo smart and developers who have been working in the business for 20+ years are sooooo dumb right? Maybe just maybe, they know more on the issue than you *gasps*

    • They know more than me about game programming but not about business. That’s a guarantee. So, yes, I am more knowledgeable regarding socioeconomic theory than most game developers. They’re good at developing games, not running businesses, which is why most indie studios fail miserably within a few years of start-up.

    • Nathan O

      dude, as per usual, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. If a game has been released on another console and is coming to PS later, Sony requires the dev to include extra content to make it special for PS gamers. Hence the additional characters in Shovel Knight and SuperTimeForce. Show me an example where this isn’t the case, something that was released on xbox or nintendo consoles that came to PS later and didn’t have additional characters or content.

    • kma99

      Where does it say they have the same policies? It states they have their own policies in place. Again thr sony drones come to defend their savior.

  • Jecht_Sin

    Right. And those Sony’s policies would be? Oh, obviously they don’t say. This site is one of the worst MS suckers ever.

    • andy

      Tell me about it. 🙂
      Its so hilarious because they try to take literally ANYTHING and make a negative PlayStation article for it…… like this very one. And I’m not even trying to say that Microsoft are worse or anything. They WERE alright but plenty of games have came to Xbone after coming to PS4 or Wii U so there clearly IS no parity clause anymore, or nothing like the awful bullying from the 360 days by the head of the Xbox Worldwide Studios at the time, what was his name, oh yeah, Phil Spencer.

    • efnet

      Wow if its not negetive about sony then its a fanboy post about MS ….you guys disgusts me

    • Psionicinversion

      to be honest when they talk to the devs about there game they are constantly phishing for the developer to say the PS4 is the best and easiest to develop for and everything. This site is not a MS 4tw site at all. Its so far up sonys backside it can see the mars bar Yoshida ate when he was a child.

    • Psionicinversion

      actually this site is very biased towards sony actually

    • kma99

      Sony defense force already on patrol lol.

    • archfiendx

      Not really. The only defense force I see here is the Microsoft defense force.

    • kma99

      Yeah right stevie wonder.

    • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

      Funny how they only need to show up when the Microsoft attack force is present.

    • kma99

      Funny how you just show up to talk nonsense anyway. Pot met kettle.

    • kreator

      STFU!

    • I’m Flat Out Right

      Sony does not have the same policies like Microsoft’s “parity clause “. Looks like Gamingbolt and this dev are spreading half truths and lies trying to defend Microsoft.

      This parity clause doesn’t even make sense. Why is Microsoft’s parity clause even there if they’re just letting some games past it? Simple! The parity clause allows Microsoft to abuse market position and allows Microsoft to bully developers. The only reason why Microsoft is letting some games past their parity clause is because Xbox One doesn’t have the dominant market share, because Xbox One has way less games, and because of backlash. Sorry Microsoft defense force, the parity clause should not exist.

      Looks like Sony does not deny devs just because they may have put their games on other platforms first. Big difference.
      http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-one/sony-jabs-at-microsofts-parity-clause/

    • bardock5151

      He won’t say because he would, like all the other developers, be under a NDA. There are usually repercussions to breaking a NDA, it’s pretty standard stuff really.

  • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

    Your Microsoft check is on its way Jakub, good job buddy.

    • kma99

      Somy could slap your mother and you would blame your mother lol

  • Barry Harden

    Micro$oft in its history has been notoriously bad and pushes its agenda to the max. They deserve the bashing they’ve gotten as people forget the hundreds of small software companies Micro$oft purposely put out of business through litigation and downright bullying.

    • efnet

      What you know? Let me answer that for you
      NOTHING!!!!! Lol you gamers today are pathetic

  • Michel Simmons

    Wait, so your telling me there are still things the public doesn’t know about these companies.

  • Psionicinversion

    Ive only really been following the console stuff this gen but from everything ive seen Sony doesnt seem to have any barriers for indie devs. they can put it on when ever, also Sonys devkits seem to have alot more availability than MS’s which to me seems weird because they must have a warehouse full of unsold xboxs they can turn into devkits pretty easily.

    But worst part from what Spencer has said is he wants xbox owners to feel like first class citizens so he wants xbox to be released first or same time as other platforms, but that right there is what is going to put indie devs off. Sure you can say look we cant do multiple platforms at the same time and they will “let them off” but its a stupid way of thinking because the xbox owners arent going to be first class citizens if the game doesnt go to the platform at all.

    Like No Mans Sky, its on PS4 and PC with PS4 being released first. There a 7 man team so can only work on 1 platform at a time. So with sony having timed exclusivity, probably about 6 months. They can bug fix the game then have a lot of time getting the PC version right.

    The public wont really know the ins and outs of both companies policies as there is probably severe penalties in place for giving out the information. Although if i was a developer and worked on both sides of the coin then decided to exit the game development scene for life. I’d out everything because what are they going to do???? ban the games i wont ever be making on there platforms!!!!

  • Starman

    GB why are you holding up my comment …. Always scared of someone spreading truth and not rumor/lies… no curse words , not arguing with anyone …Oh wait ! ..”I said something negative about your precious Sony …

  • Starman

    I see people bashing MS again … lol …Things being said about “policy and character … but SONY are angles …you guys must be under 35 yrs of age … in which you know nothing of the crooked Sony camp … who doesn’t trade with most of the world …but really not with America … and all of you stupid Americans …(I’m American, NY I might add) buy their products …and they can’t stand your American @$$…

  • Starman

    Seems to me , part of Sony’s policy is , “if you want to self publish yourself…you have to keep it exclusive to us(Sony) and also , you have to say “XBOX policies are crap and we can’t do it on their system , because it’s too weak ..lol
    I know it sounds a little far fetched but, I’m close …believe me .. I grew up on Sony products , I know how they operate …. and any defending them in these comments , are nothing but Sony Fanboys ….

  • Rikarudo

    discuss what exactly?…
    it is one dev defending xbox and not trash talking sony clauses. how about gathering up all the devs that have spoken about this issue and make a list and whichever side has the most complaints… that companys clauses suck more, facts people! =p

    ok… his game just got ps+ status this month, i wonder if that has something to do with his media talking.
    hmm… oh and tried the game, and it sucks, it is a real piece of &”¤%#¤… but hey, thats my opinion.

  • Cyberats

    How about a real issue, how many here have had to upgrade your video card driver because of a new Game ?
    That’s the software programmer going – duh I forgot to put this in the video module, sith is going to crash – calling AMD & nVidia begging them to add his latest crap to their Now new update, instead of patching their own game.


 

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