The Surge Dev On Xbox Scorpio Price Concerns, Flexibility In Choosing Better FPS Or Resolution, & More

He seems enthusiastic about the notion of the most powerful console ever made.

Posted By | On 12th, Jul. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


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With the Xbox One Scorpio due out next year, it is an exciting time to be following the console gaming market, no matter which side of the divide you fall on- whether you’re a customer or a developer o video games, the Scorpio is something that you want to keep your eyes on.

We do know how customers are responding to the hardware, and there seems to be some general excitement in the air about Microsoft’s purported ‘beast,’ the most powerful gaming console ever made- but how are developers, especially some of the smaller ones who now have an additional SKU for their game to potentially consider, taking the news?

GamingBolt recently had a sit down with Deck 13 Interactive’s CEO Jan Klose, and we decided to spring some questions on the Scorpio, and its potential implications for the larger console gaming market, as well as for developers specifically.

“Well you could just wrap things up if you’d like, and you can go in different directions: you can go for frame rate, you can go for resolution, or you can go for content,” Klose said, discussing what developers could do with the Scorpio’s hardware. “We don’t want to do two versions of the game for different consoles so we’re not likely going for content. We don’t know yet.”

All this said, he did note that he does not expect the Scorpio to outpace gaming PCs at all- which is a sentiment that most developers seem to agree on- the most powerful gaming console is just that, the most powerful gaming console. It still cannot match up to the best gaming PCs.

“I’m not so much the expert there, but I think teraflops are most likely superseded by high-speed PCs,” he said. “And if not today, then tomorrow. They are very fast.”

He also noted that he is not too worried about how much the Scorpio may cost, as the price on it is bound to come down eventually. “I think every new console generation where the greatest and fastest consoles ever created, they all drop down to a reasonable price. So I hope the same will happen here.”

As for launching The Surge on Scorpio? He wasn’t too keen on the idea, not for now, in any case. “For Scorpio, we don’t know yet, we have to see. The announcement is pretty new.”

Which is a pretty fair and reasonable position to take- after all, for smaller developers, avoiding the extra work load the Scorpio poses may yet be the best thing they can do. The Xbox One Scorpio is due for a launch in Holiday 2017.


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  • Doggystyle

    “We don’t want to do two versions of the game for different consoles so we’re not likely going for content.”

    And with that statement from one developer, the Scorpio is destined to be perceived as nothing to get too excited about, just another Xbox One. No exclusive VR games in production, no exclusive games at all, nothing in the pipeline to hype up, no cause for celebration, no reason for fanfare. All that extra gaming power with no announced gaming exclusives that make it totally distinguishable from the competition, or even better than the original. Its just an Xbox One with increased resolution. Its the Xbox that the fanboys always wanted, but always denied was ever necessary. I suddenly feel very sad. I think I’m going to go take an antideppressant.

    • jon3sy9

      6 teraflops is way better than the rumoured 4 teraFLOPs that the playstation neo will have. Paid sony shill spouting the usual bs

    • Guest

      And youre obviously stupid an know nothing about technology, because if you dumb MS fanboys thought that the difference between 1080p and 900p was small, just wait til you see how much smaller the difference between a NEO game and Scorpio will be. You ever hear of a thing call diminishing returns? (Look it up). Well it only gets worst as the specs get higher. Also, both systems (Neo and Scorpio) have to cater to the lowest common denominator (the two base systems), further hamstringing these systems into showing any real differences. You dumb bots are in for a rude awakening. And both upgrades are a bad model.
      And there is nothing stopping Sony from uppings its teraflops to 5.8TF as that’s what a normal speed RX 480 runs at when set to 1266mhz, instead of Sony’s underclocked 911mhz. All they’d have to do is just use a better cooling solution and and possibly take the PSU out of the system.

    • bardock5151

      So Sony can up the clock (still just a rumour as to actual specs) on their GPU, but Microsoft can’t?

      Something tells me that if Sony does something like that, Microsoft will still have a lot more room before they hit their ceiling with Scorpio.
      I also seriously doubt Sony will take the power supply out of a console.

      Oh and you’re jumping to conclusions about the whole 480 thing. All this talk is merely speculation, the only concrete facts are what Xbox has so far has announced. Neo information is pure speculation and rumour, mixed with a ton of fanboy conjecture and salt.

    • Michael

      Don’t worry pony, you will still be able to suck up the sony syrup while scorpio is released. MS doesn’t need to push VR tech that has already failed once before.

    • Guest

      Says the bot, sucking up the MS syrup before either system is even released. What a pack of suckers!. Btw, grow up, you sound like a young child, moron!

    • Doggystyle

      Thanks. Somehow being called a pony doesn’t sting like it is supposed to. I’ll deal with him at recess when the teacher isnt looking.

    • PinkCrocodile75

      I knew a boy in school who said that to me once in primary school. I walked up to him and punched two of his teeth out.

      I was a quiet boy in school but why would I let some arsehole threaten me for later when I could walk up to this bully and smack him in the mouth right infront of his freinds.

    • Doggystyle

      LOL, I said with sarcasm. I have a kid who’s already finished college.

    • Rosemarys Baby

      Your kid must be so proud of daddy who argues online about which piece of plastic is better.
      Grow up. Options are good for everyone.

    • Doggystyle

      My kid thinks the Xbox is a piece of sh** too. We’re very proud of each other. Thanks for asking.

    • Mark

      Lmao

    • ShowanW

      i don’t think this Dev is a indicator of ALL devs.

      EA, CD Projekt Red, RockStar, and Bethesda all seem pretty happy about Project Scorpio.

      And you never know… Phil could announce a few Scorpio exclusives, the darn thing doesn’t come out for another 17months or so.

      But we both know the backlash [from PC only gamers] if Phil decides to drop an 1-3 exclusives for Xbox only. Let’s be honest, Phil is between a rock and a hard place. If like or dislike him, he cant win.

      It’s cater to Xbox only to have PC (only) gamers, go into the tirade of Phil not “caring about PC gamers”… Or cater to both and have Xbox only gamers be upset. That’s no easy feat…

      be honest Doggy, you would take the same route Phil Spencer has taken and try to find some happy medium… You can’t exactly tell millions of potential buyers to kick rocks.

    • bewareofZ

      Phil has already said, there will be no Scorpio exclusives.
      http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-one-scorpio-may-not-get-any-exclusive-vr-games-microsoft-implies

    • ShowanW

      this is true… i stand corrected…

      but the point still stands, that phil spencer can’t win.
      no matter how hard phil tries, he gets trampled even more.
      granted most of those people arent even xbox fans, but it still happens.

    • marc Berry

      You don’t need to do Scorpio exclusives!!!!

      Halo5 and the NEXT Halo Use what engine?

      Halo uses a engine based on dynamically scaling. Make the game once in the game automatically scales to the resources used on the system that is on. Xbox one you got in Halo 5. So if you put that game into a Scorpio you will get a better performing game in resolution and it was already 60 frames per second. If the game uses high-resolution it already means better textures.

      Next case Forza motorsports six uses a dynamic engine which means you build for the top and you scale down to the least powerful factor which is Xbox one s.

      As said here!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCFig7lGyEs

      so when Microsoft designs the next Halo you program the game to run on Scorpio and it will dynamically scale down to Xbox one. Oh yes and how many is developers are going to this type of engine the Witcher, and call of duty already use this method. Design a 4K game scale down to the least common the facter.

    • bewareofZ

      No one said it needed them.

    • LDS

      Well exclusives used to be the xbox’s selling point with RofTR, GofW, Halo, Forza, Sunset OD but almost all of them didn’t sell that well except Halo.
      You’ve got to maintain certain sales point to keep up with exclusives and a million copies isn’t enough to get the exclusives on going these days.

      And Anywhere policy is what MS ended up with because xbox fans cry out for exclusives but they don’t care to spend enough money to keep them on going.

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    • ShowanW

      These mid-cycle upgrade consoles caught me way off guard…

      I was expecting slim versions only..

      But i managed to see my PS4 at adarn good price point.. So im gonna keep a keen eye on Neo.

      Scorpio..maybe.. Price (of both consoles) will definitely play a big part in my decision..

    • Cenk Algu

      Someone paying this die hard troll to troll all over the internet.All of he said nothing but bullshit and MS hate.Go get a life.Find a job,find a girl then may be you can be a normal human being.Poor guy:(

    • Doggystyle

      Meanwhile, your sister is probably cheating on you.

    • Cenk Algu

      I have no sister troll.Scorpio causing you nightmares why?

    • jp

      you will get Sony’s exclusives… in 2020 keep waiting, ill give you a hug this winter when you dont have any interesting games to play on your ps4 other than multiplat games which apparently is the only thing that box does ok.

  • Budrazor

    You guys are really salty right now. I don’t see the” were the strongest console” BS no more. That stopped fast when Scorpio was announced.

    • Doggystyle

      The strongest console is the one with the most market share and the best announced exclusive game line up, plus the best baseball game available anywhere, plus a new exclusive Spider-Man game, plus a solid future standing through exciting VR gaming technology, plus a CEO who knows exactly what the fuq he’s doing, and doesn’t have to keep changing his strategy based on being in second place, and being completely untrustworthy, and backtracking on every load of crap PR statement that comes out of his mouth.

      Please don’t interrupt us grownups again.

    • jp

      tipical of a stupid fanboy, hey the PS4 is a great console to have! in 2020 maybe! waitness awaits moron.

  • BelAirBoss

    6 teraflops and 12 gb of ram from a console is impressive no matter how you slice it. Of course it won’t keep up with a 1500 dollar build and up pc, but it doesn’t really have to when it’s going to cost much less. Of course, by the time it releases, the cost of building out a pc capable of 4k@60fps will come down from where it is today, so it could be diminishing returns on Scorpio by holiday 2017. But it’s still great for people who don’t want the hassle that comes with pc gaming.

    • LDS

      I’m not sure if you need 12gb ram for console. You would hit 10 fps before you even manage to use them all.

    • BelAirBoss

      I’m sure that talented developers will find uses for it. Custom solution for a custom “problem”. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it….and for consoles, it is too often the latter. Perhaps not anymore.

    • Doggystyle

      LOL. Ok.

    • BelAirBoss

      Nobody asked you. You’re used to it. LOL.

    • cweb1988

      12gb is good. Especially if it has what was it? 320gb throughput/bandwidth or whatever….but I can’t claim to know what I’m talking about…..but more ram is always good for apps, and developers.

    • JuneMas

      The reason it will have 12GB of ram is because these current systems with 8GB can only access 4-5 gigs for games with the rest being used for the system itself. With 12GB the devs will have access to a full 8GB with the rest reserved for the system.

    • Doggystyle

      Can you name some of the exclusive games for Xbox Scorpio that will be taking advantage of it?

      I’ll stay on pause until you come up with something.

    • PinkCrocodile75

      Can you name all of the exclusives for Neo that will be taking advantage of it?

      I’ll stay on pause until you come up with something

    • jp

      just accept the the Scorpio killed the NEO before its even out, Sony is smoke and mirrors m8 you will figure it out sooner or later.

    • BelAirBoss

      Sorry…the Scorpio won’t have Horizon:Zero Dawn, Detroit:Become Human, God of War, etc. etc. etc. If you haven’t figured out that exclusives still matter, I’ve got a bridge you might have interest in purchasing. Zelda will matter big time next year for Nintendo as well.

    • jp

      the only one coming close is Horizon Zero at Dawn, the rest of those games are coming 2020 at least, keep on waiting m8.

    • bewareofZ

      Scorpio
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      Has
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      No
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      Games.

    • BelAirBoss

      Right…I just finished Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted. Next up? No Man’s Sky, The Last Guardian, and Gran Turismo. LOL, so long kid…try harder. You’re failing.

    • cweb1988

      I’d get it just to play games like BF1 on ultra settings.

    • Mark

      As well as I!!!

    • BelAirBoss

      I don’t have to. You should know that multiplayer games sell vastly more quantities than do exclusives….for those who don’t care for the pc side of the equation, and prefer console, they will now have a console that can do proper justice to series like The Witcher, Mass Effect, Battlefield, etc. etc. etc. Not hard to see the benefit in that. Not hard at all.

    • Mark

      Somebody gets it!!!

  • marc Berry

    You don’t need to do Scorpio exclusives!!!!

    Halo5 and the NEXT Halo Use what engine?

    Halo
    uses a engine based on dynamically scaling. Make the game once in the
    game automatically scales to the resources used on the system that is
    on. Xbox one you got in Halo 5. So if you put that game into a Scorpio
    you will get a better performing game in resolution and it was already
    60 frames per second. If the game uses high-resolution it already means
    better textures.

    Next case Forza motorsports six uses a dynamic
    engine which means you build for the top and you scale down to the least
    powerful factor which is Xbox one s.

    As said here!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCFig7lGyEs

    so when Microsoft designs the next Halo you program the
    game to run on Scorpio and it will dynamically scale down to Xbox one.
    Oh yes and how many is developers are going to this type of engine the
    Witcher, and call of duty already use this method. Design a 4K game
    scale down to the least powerful.


 

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