Umbra Dev: “Horsepower of Xbox One/PS4 Is Significant”, Worlds Will Be More Dynamic Than Before

A more dynamic and less static system will be the order of the day for the future.

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We recently got a chance to speak to Thomas Puha, director of developer relations at Umbra, which is used to create large and expansive worlds, and currently in use for next generation titles like The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Quantum Break and Destiny.

On asking Puha what was possible for Umbra on next generation consoles like the Xbox One and PS4, he stated, “The CPU’s of the new consoles are not that insanely powerful, but there’s a huge amount of memory to play around with and of course, a powerful GPU allowing for Compute stuff which we’ll see years down the line. Just in general the horsepower of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 is significant.

“Large static objects are the best occluders: buildings, mountains and such, but dynamic elements such as characters and cars are not. However, next-generation game worlds will be far more dynamic than before. Lots more characters and the ability for players to do things like build content on their own, so you need a system that is not so static, but more dynamic.

“We do have a system in place that allows you use, say a massive spaceship or a large boss character as an occluder, which is pretty cool.”

We’ve certainly seen larger worlds and greater amounts of characters for games like The Witcher 3 and with the large amount of open world games, like The Crew, Destiny and Tom Clancy’s The Division, on their way.

Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.

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  • XBO FTW!

    XBO FTW!

    • Dakan45

      Xbox cpu is weaker than the ps4, both consoles have low end crap cpus.

      Also what the developer saying is that consoles can now have big maps like crysis had in 2007 and they wont have to make games linear like crysis 2 and 3.

    • cpuguy

      The Xbox CPU is the same..

    • da Boss

      no its not, the ps4 is 1.84 teraflops cs 1.3 on x1. The ps4 has almost 60% more bandwith,

      http://www.giantbomb.com/xbox-one/3045-145/forums/xb1-has-60-less-ram-bandwidth-less-gpu-cores-than–1437618/

    • Dave

      That article is 2 months old.

    • XBO FTW!

      It’s the same moron.

    • Dakan45

      Wait so you are saying the 2ghz rumor is proven wrong and both have 1.6ghz? loll

      Thats horrible, i bet the OS rumor is gonna be proven wrong and ps4 will use just as much ram as xbox.

    • Jason

      That was already proven to be the case and even less by Eurogamer. The PS4 reserves 4.5GB for games and about 1GB max as flexible memory. The rest is eaten by the PoS FreeBSD OS.

    • Dakan45

      Wait so ps4 has 4.5gb for games and xbox one has 5gb?

    • da Boss

      no, ps4 has 6, x1 has 5

    • Dakan45

      No way ps4 has 6gb for games. 5.5 maybe but not 6.

    • da Boss

      ur a fucking idiot, 1.84 TERAFLPS vs 1.3 is a HUGE difference, GET real

    • thedude909

      You’re clearly mixing CPU with GPU :

      I’m a playstation guy and I hate Microsoft but the exactly CPU specs of both systems aren’t available yet.. they both will probably be clocked at 1.6 ghz.

    • Solid Snake

      The xbox 360 owners did the same exact thing towards PS3 owners so let he without sin cast the first stone!

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

    • da Boss

      lol 1.3 teraflops vs 1.8
      8 gigs of DDR3 vs GDDR5
      50$ PSN+ vs 60$ XBLG
      400$ PS4 vs 500$ X1
      get real bud

    • Dave

      Typical Sony fanboy quoting other people without doing actual research. These stats are just stats on paper, both of the CPU’s are weak are wont make that big of a difference when push comes to shove.

    • Solid Snake

      Both are semi custom architecture let games do the talking instead of acting like you can predict the future outcome of both systems that is what it means to be a true avid gamer!

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

    • da Boss

      ur an idiot, the diffrence here is alot bigger than you think.

    • pmpmarion

      Can the PlayStation arrive already so that sony zealots can find other things to do other than spamming Xbox threads with the same ol, same ol, same ol, same ol, same ol, same ol, same ol $#!+ drivel…
      I used to be a fan of Xbox 360 but…
      I used to own a 360, but…
      I don’t trust m$ coz of…
      I hate being forced to buy Kinect so…
      I hate m$ anti consumerism so…
      I loved my 360 but…
      Just say you hate the Xbox one, and then leave it that, no explanation or rationalisation necessary…its not like anything new is being added to the discussion…

      Let me add that Xbox one fanboys are dicks too…justifying missteps and screw ups by the Xbox team to save face. I say who cares…its mostly fixed now, so its good enough for me…features are getting better, games are there, forget Kinect one, project natal has officially arrived in Kinect 2…so I’m stoked…

      Cloud is a wait and see if it happens, but the features are there now for me to put my money down TODAAAY….

    • ivan510

      Lol in some ways xbox one is more powerful, all xbox one games will run at 60fps, like titanfall, halo 5, forza 5, etc. While most ps4 games will run at 30fps theif, killzone sf, driveclub, etc. People forget that the xbox one has esram, s.p.a.ce., and a data move engine.

    • da Boss

      ur such an idiot

    • XBO FTW!

      Those numbers mean nothing bud!

    • da Boss

      keep telling yourself that

    • Clive_Bixby

      You do know that 360 survived and thrived for 8 years on inferior hardware right? The gap between the 2 consoles is even smaller next gen. Just research how many multiplat developers call the One and PS4 “almost identical”.

    • da Boss

      Living in denial i see. It’s cool

    • pmpmarion

      Denial of what?
      That it came from second to first place in the states and Europe?
      That it took the causal crown from Wii, and stemmed the flow of causal gamers to Nintendo. (Kinect won the tail end of the war for the casual market, made the Wii redundant by the end of the current generation.
      That it successfully created the marketplace for modern television to thrive I. the modern age (a feat that google, and apple have tried to set up with apple tv, and Google tv)
      That the original Xbox fatty and 360 pioneered the modern online gaming experience in the days of dial up. Betting big on broadband and connectivity and forcing users to either live in the past or move forward. Sony followed with psn a generation later.
      Were not in denial mate, were living in hope that Xbox live will become the cloud powered juggernaut its being marketed as…and there’s nothing wrong with that…because Xbox live has already exceeded my expectations which I had 6 years ago when I finally decided to “jump in” for paid online gaming.i
      I personally know that my PlayStation mates are hoping for an Xbox live like experience this time round…what’s wrong with that? Nothing. I hope they get it which force Xbox to push forward beyond where they are today…and I hope Kinect becomes the device of the future that it is meant to be. I am not in denial about that…but maybe you are?

      Sony has a sliver of additional theoretical power. So in terms of offline gaming, that’s a big big big deal.

      But Microsoft are betting in players being connected all the time, and that broadband speeds will improve and become ubiquitous within the next few years. This is where they’ve bet the baby and the bathtub…I hope it pays off, because someone has to push forward and lay the first brick for gaming in the modern age. And they believe it is the cloud and non localised services that will power the experiences of tomorrow.

  • da Boss

    1.84 teraflops, 8gigs of GDDR5 ram and da cloudddd. The ps4 is gonna kick some serious ass

    • Dave

      Psssh, are you seriously using Sony’s cloud as a plus? Compare that to 300,000 servers from MS and the fact that MS has way less downtimes than Sony when it comes to servers. Btw, stop using terms you know nothing about, if I were to ask you to give me a in depth explanation on how teraflops and GDDR works you couldn’t. So stop using terms you hear other people say.

    • XBO FTW!

      She can’t, cause she’s a Phony Play Station moron ;)

    • Solid Snake

      Please add something constructive to the conversation instead of acting immature & disruptive thank you!

      Kind Regards,Michael

    • XBO FTW!

      Ok sorry but, are you mad?

    • JerkDaNERD7

      just call it cloud streaming, because it does not help in graphics, btw would you rather stream Last of Us or buy it digitally or physically?! EXACTLY!

      If anything Xbox One’s Azure is for Cloud computing, not streaming.

    • Jason

      da Boss, you must be some prick with an inferiority complex at work. Surely a pauper by all means that can’t afford proper gaming on the Xbox One.

    • Solid Snake

      PS4: 8 GB GDDR5 @5500 MHz

      XBO: 8 GB DDR3 @2133 MHz

      Also worth noting this in for everyone above me…

      Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry that the ESRAM embedded memory within the Xbox One processor is considerably more capable than Microsoft envisaged during pre-production of the console,
      with data throughput levels up to 88 per cent higher in the final hardware.

      Bandwidth is at a premium in the Xbox One owing to the slower DDR3 memory employed in the console, which does not compare favourably to the 8GB unified pool of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 4.
      The 32MB of “embedded static RAM” within the Xbox One processor aims to make up the difference, and was previously thought to sustain a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s –
      useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4′s RAM set-up.
      Now that close-to-final silicon is available, Microsoft has revised its own figures upwards significantly, telling developers that 192GB/s is now theoretically possible.

      Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-memory-better-in-production-hardware

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

    • Solid Snake

      PS..if anyone is going to list specs at least have them accurately displayed & there’s no need to resort to insulting others to get your points across let us attempt to keep it civil as possible please & thank you!

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

  • Jason

    Hahaha, once again the dumb $0ny PauperStation N4Gtards are spreading lies like facts. GFY paupers! Those little spec differences won’t do sh*t for the PoS4. Kinect, Smartglass, Azure, Fortaleza and illumiroom are things that will matter and innovate gaming! Eat it and die!

    • MnMan

      Very passionate. You are really into this stuff.

    • Gill

      All these features and all their money and they couldnt make the xbox smaller than a microwave or put the power brick inside the box? Hell you still gota use double AA battery still hahahaha ps4tw

  • WellWisher

    10 times the RAM and (approx) 4-5 times the power of last gen and the best they can do is ‘more stuff that moves’. I feel like games have taken a step back in terms of what really creates immersion. I like intelligent AI like in the original FEAR. That and the atmosphere and realistic damage got me totally immersed in that game. Show me enemies that are 4-5 times more lifelike than in that game and I’ll believe next gen is worth my money.

    Plus fanboys on both sides are making me sick right now. Not sure if I want to game online with these people.

    • Solid Snake

      I miss the older gaming generations when we did not have console wars we just played the games we liked & nerded out about gaming in general.

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

    • http://mfdawes.com Mixel

      But we’ve always had them.. I remember kids arguing over Mastersystem/NES, and I was always sticking up for the Amiga VS the Atari ST (i still don’t understand those guys, lol)

      You were lucky if you managed to keep out of platform wars, but they were definitely around – and egged on by the magazines.. I think the internet has a lot to answer for in terms of it getting out of hand though.

      Cheers. :)

    • WellWisher

      Yeah, it was a lot more civil before the internet. Magazines wouldn’t post a message from a Sega fanboy threatening to rape a Nintendo fanboy’s mother. He could say it to their face, but would risk getting smacked.

  • pmpmarion

    Finally, some new information. I’m officially all in for my Xbox one. Gold home, multi tasking and instant switching, voice control, full hd streaming of movies, whisper quiet, calling mum from my couch (tv to Skype phone is what I wanted on 360, coz Kinect to Kinect kinda sucked) sports, sports, sports, sports, sports…and some nice looking games for my toddler, my wife, my teenager and me…
    Add multiple console support for the home and I’ll have an Xbox in every room for some serious family down time when we just wanna chill at home…
    Xbox one is not just enhancing my gaming life, its enhancing my family life in general..
    And to sonys fanboys…hope you love your ps4 as much as I’m gonna love my Xbox one…I’ll miss out on some cool games, but I’ll live…lol…

    • GDDR5

      lol may you and your familly live peacefully being watched by the NSA..congrats you are officially a moron…if you werent already…get that kinect shit out of my living room lol

    • Mason Rieber

      YOURE AN IDIOT AND I HOPE YOURE TOO BROKE TO BUY EITHER CONSOLE

  • Bradley Lansiquot

    i’m a ps fanboy and ms has a compelling product, i foresee it pushing more units than the ps4. why? well the easy of use is one, flipping through av/hdmi/tv is a breeze. the camera in every box is a smart move. these things maybe underated rite now but in the long run we’ll see. ms just needs some more variety in its exclusives

  • Philenor

    As the new generation is pushed out, so will the PC side of hardware lose some of it’s potency. As all the platforms are very close to one and other, I would imagine some extra pushes from PC side is needed for PC to get as far pass the consoles as it is now.

    I personally am more interested on the new Xbox, but as a PC player my interests are more targeted on the situation as a whole. Anyone who knows anything about system designing knows that pure number differences don’t make “system A” better than “system B”.

    And, this discussion being about the game industry, the specs themselves sure don’t guarantee squat when it comes to sales. It’s the games. It has always been about the games in this business.

  • Dexter Rivens

    The Xbox One’s GPU is very powerful, and this concept that the PS4 is better because it has DDR5 is silly. If I take my engine out if my BMW and put an 8 cyc engine in that doesn’t make my car better, faster or more efficient. Yes it has more power but the truth is, we want to see how effectively it uses power.

    Simply explanation: PS4 cannot play games higher than 1080p by design, the Xbox One can. The PS4 does not load and swap apps/functions almost instantly, the Xbox One does. The PS4 doesn’t run almost silent, the Xbox One does.

    Everyone will have their opinions on which is better. Based on each companies statement the PS4 pushes w more TFLOPS but Xbox One never posted theirs, devs and so called experts came up with it.
    Only the Xbox and Playstation engineers know their systems capabilities, not a dev or a expert which still leaves the truth. No one fully understands both and neither is final.

    • Solid Snake

      Both consoles are using semi custom pc parts meaning their architectures overall performance capabilities theoretically possible have been modified & tweaked to push the performances capabilities theoretically possible beyond their original architectures overall performance capabilities theoretically possible.

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

  • Dexter Rivens

    Also you may find it interesting that the PS3 supposedly is TFLOPS is double of the Xbox360. Lets be honest, it’s not

    • Solid Snake

      Beyond two souls,god of war 3,the last of us,uncharted 3 etc.. say other wise.This is accomplished through parallel processing which is why these games were able to reach the consoles overall performance capabilities that is theoretically possible with & for the playstation 3 hardware.

      P.S..there were certain 3rd party games that benefited from playstation 3′s console architecture such as battlefield 3 for example.

      Repi’s developer blog

      http://repi.blogspot.com/

      Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!

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