Xbox One Scorpio To Be Priced At $399, Nintendo Switch Sold Out Through September – Pachter

Michael Pachter on the upcoming consoles.

Posted By | On 22nd, Dec. 2016 Under News


While we are still, surprisingly mostly in the dark about details surrounding the Nintendo Switch like the price, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter thinks he’s got the upcoming console sized up. The analyst recently talked about that console, as well as Project Scorpio.

In an interview withย GamesIndustry, Pachter said he believes the Switch is going to be priced “just right” and that the affordable pricing is going to cause some seriously high demand. “The Switch is sold out through September. The console looks fun, the price appears to be right, and I expect demand to be high. If there is a lot of third-party support (games, not merely labels), I think demand remains high.” Pachter said.

When it comes to the Scorpio, Pachter believes Microsoft’s next console is going to cost $399. The analyst added he believes this might be too high a price tag, considering the PS4 Pro might drop in price next fall, when Scorpio is due to hit shelves.


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  • Hvd

    $399?…..rip sony….lmao.

    • crazy_black_man-

      399?……rip Microsoft….lmao. That would be a huge loss on hardware, and with no competitive or comparable exclusive games to help push the system against the PS4 PRO’s one year head start on market penetration, and Sony’s highly anticipated incoming exclusives. It would also put the previous hardware in a fire sale dump, forcing current customers to try and unload it. It will be another loop of announce new hardware, release it, and force customers to trade up again while leaving retailers with unsellable inventory of the previous stock of consoles. It would leave nothing but confusion all around for the Xbox brand and the casual gaming consumer. This shet is funny.

    • kee1haul

      Pro isn’t getting much momemntum now. 3% of PS4s sold since Pro release were actually Pros. And there won’t be as much loss on hardware as you would think. That’s why they are waiting until next year, cheaper, more powerful parts.

    • crazy_black_man-

      The PS4 has already saturated the market. The PRO will become the standard PS4 console eventually. Sony is making a profit on hardware sales and they have been since 2014. Microsoft however, is not in that same position.

    • kma99

      Saturated what market? They have pallets of those things at best buy and im not even trolling you lol. I will keep my vanilla ps4 it plays games better anyway.

    • Clause

      You are talking to a known mental case. A PS4 jumping lunatic. He will argue that the PS4 “pro” is the greatest machine in the world until he gets to his grave…even tho its has bombed and is the joke of he industry.

    • quantum

      I very much doubt he owns a PS4 or any console for that matter. He probably had his lunch money taken off him by an xbox owner at school or something. I own a PS4 and this guy is an embarassment to all of us. He has never once made a comment about actually gaming on the PS4 or games. Just console bashing. He also thinks using lots of capital letters somehow ‘adds weight’ to his pathetic comments.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Really? But I don’t have a Pro, you idiot. You know nothing about me, hater.

    • Clause

      Good…. the thing is embarassing. Mine never connected to my 4k TV at all. Had to get another TV and the games look the same but have horrible frame rates. You are lucky.

    • crazy_black_man-

      You obviously have no idea what you’re doing. You had an incompatible tv. Period.

    • Clause

      Why does your PS4 “pro” work ?

    • crazy_black_man-

      Next time do your research better. Learn about what youre buying and its compatible devices in advance.

    • Clause

      I didn’t buy it…it was a gift. But you are correct I won’t buy Sony products at all especially PlayStation garbage. Next time STFU

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. Why are you mad at me? I’m just trying to help stupid people. Dang.

    • Mr Xrat

      By the time Shitpio appears to send us to sleep, the Pro will be less than $300 and have games people actually care about. Sorry, Acekidder.

    • Clause

      RetardoRat…the pro has flopped. It sold less than Xbox one S did in November. It’s an embarrassment…why do you think the entire internet is talking about Scorpio ?

    • crazy_black_man-

      “why do you think the entire internet is talking about Scorpio ?”

      Uhhh….because the 2nd place Xbox One and Xbox One S are pieces of shet?

    • Clause

      Shhhh
      Your mental illness is clear

    • Glen

      What is your issue that you have to comment on everything on this article. We all know that PS4 has outsold Xbox one but it’s always better when there is competition. Makes it better for us consumers. It’s awesome with the consoles are so competitive with PS4 slim and Xbox one S. Both are going for 250 now and have seen it as low as 213 bucks

    • crazy_black_man-

      Its always better when the competition is “worthy”. But when the competition becomes so detrimental to one of my favorite ways to relax through their restrictive policies, and tries to ruin console gaming for everyone, I will fight it tooth and nail. That is what it is with me Glen. The more you know…

    • LifeOnMars

      PS4 has outsold Xbox one worldwide by almost two to one..Now that’s what I call a failure.

    • Clause

      Really, please post exact sales #s as announced by MS. And please VG chartz is funny. If not then you are the failure.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. You just highlighted another point against you’re own argument. MS won’t report sales numbers because they are embarrassing themselves. Hilariousness!

    • Clause

      I’ve highlighted another point about your mental illness. You should call MS and ask them for exact sales. They will ask why do you care. There is no answer other than you are a mental case.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. Thats just lame. I thought you would have come back harder than that. Poor little fella.

    • Clause

      I rather liked it. Perhaps you are not intelligent enough to fully understand it.

    • LifeOnMars

      Microsoft seem to think that you have no need to see the sales figures, exexpt when the win in a particuler area over a few months. God they have been very quiet for the last 3 years.

    • LifeOnMars

      I’m a Windows 10 user, That does not make me an Xbox gamer.

    • Mr Xrat

      Retarded Woodpecker doesn’t know the @ss is the same as the PS4 Slim!

    • Nintengods

      Open the door
      Get on the floor
      Still no games on the P$4

      After the collapse of the P$4 prolapse and no wonder you are on Christmas damage control GreenGiant.

      And Nintendo destroying Sonyscum and obliterating them for good next year to look forward too ๐Ÿ™‚

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a7eb03753ad9dcacdcb4fe85c84121d3ed77ddd206d84e2745ffbdc01dc31a58.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f1e9fd5a53f8af40eb7c5037427eb941099d31c5888ecfbd514c82584410adb.png

    • kee1haul

      upvoted yourself again.

    • Nintengods

      What games, GreenGiant313?

      Oh wait P$4 still has no games and the Prolapse will still be garbage at $300.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3dfb3b987ace1710fd138384e56c3c820605b41d61bd3c13c5a08f437a9cf5ff.jpg

    • Clause

      It’s RIP Sony either way…the pro has been a flop and most are well aware of the lie that PS4 pro is.

    • Hvd

      yep

    • Mr Xrat

      Retarded woodpecker still banging his head!

    • Nintengods
    • Glen

      So let’s think this out. PS4 isn’t going any where. Xbox will finally be competitive graphic wise but they need to keep putting out the games. Sony has a lot of exclusive games. The pro hasn’t been a flop. It’s just there was so many good deals on ththe PS4 slim at 250 or less. Consumers will always try to spend the least they can.

    • Clause

      The pro flopped, Xbox one S has been out for 7 months and sold more than it did during its launch month. 12-24 fps single player anime games are not what I consider to be lots of exclusives.

    • crazy_black_man-

      The Xbox One S sold because the original Xbox One was a flop. The PS4 never had that problem. Are you stupid or what?

    • Clause

      the PS4 pro and the old Xbox one…flops made in heaven. Sad the pro is Sony’s embarassing future and the old One is a long past. Scorpio has you mental cases a bit on edge eh ? Thought you didn’t have a pro ?

    • crazy_black_man-

      Scorpio is just a name to you dreamers right now. You havent even had to hard reset one yet. That day will come one day son and you will be just as disappointed as you are now. Mark my words.

    • Clause

      It’s good to dream…my dreams for the pro are Fing smashed. Thing sucks

    • crazy_black_man-

      The Pro is just another PS4. Last I checked, the PS4 is whooping the Xbox One, all Xbox Ones, by about 20-30 million worldwide and the Scorpio can’t do shet to stop that with just Sea of Thieves. Hilariousness!

    • Clause

      Sorry 350 million windows 10 users to a mere 50 million PS4 owners. And an embarrassment for a new PS4 “pro” console. Somebody ain’t looking very good. Sony’s $188 million OI loss last quarter should tell you something.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Dude, you dare to mention Windows 10? Nobody is buying or playing Xbox games on Windows 10. You are a joke! You’re embarrassing yourself.

    • Clause

      Really I’ll wait for your link from MS on exact windows 10 PC sales. The jokes on you boy. A closed console only future, with garbage hardware…the same CPU..really ?!?! and more 14 fps single player anime trash on the way.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. You tried and failed. It’s not your fault. You had no ammunition. Listen I had fun laughing at you but I must go now. I’ll talk to you soon bud. Catch you later.

    • Clause

      Indeed you should run away. Your mental illness mocked by all in here. Back to no mans lie you go and paying to stream games you already own….tooodles.

    • crazy_black_man-

      LOL. You sound real familiar.

    • Glen

      I am so your just stupid. It’s nice to be able to play the play any where titles.

    • crazy_black_man-

      What are you “playing anywhere” Glen? Gears? Recore? Quantum Break? Those lame titles are nothing worth playing on an Xbox One let alone worth logging on and resuming play on your pc. Go sit down Glen. You have nothing to offer.

    • Glen

      Not sure where you are located at but Xbox one S has been out since end of July. That’s 5 months.

    • crazy_black_man-

      “Xbox will finally be competitive graphic wise but they need to keep putting out the games.”

      No Glen. They need to “start” putting out the games. They have nothing but recycled trash franchises and failed new IPs that aren’t recovering all their heavily discounted hardware losses since launch. Get your head out of your azzcrack Glen.

    • Psionicinversion

      no chance its that price. if it is MS are taking a loss on it, Pachter is an idiot that shouldnt be listened to

    • Mark

      I feel the same. Don’t see it being 400 beans, prolly 500

    • crazy_black_man-

      Minimum $700usd

    • Glen

      They had stated that it will be console priced and not to expensive. They have learned from what happened with Xbox one with Kinect and that’s how they are so far behind. It’s probably going to be 450 or 400. The guy saying they would have a loss. Maybe not that much of a loss. Components come down every year.

    • crazy_black_man-

      This big mystery won’t be revealed for quite some time. You have to remember that they have to price it higher now so that they can later slash the price to be more competitive. They will charge what the market will bear initially and then they will bring the price down when needed to be competitive. I say it will be above $600, close to the PS3s initial asking price. They just have to prove it is worth that starting price through aggressive marketing.

    • Mark

      Sure. Maybe it’ll be $950usd as well…

    • Tomaterrrx

      It won’t be that expensive.

  • Alistein

    Another click bait and quoting from a guy who is mostly wrong nearly all the time.

  • crazy_black_man-

    “When it comes to the Scorpio, Pachter believes Microsoftโ€™s next console
    is going to cost $399. The analyst added he believes this might be too
    high a price tag, considering the PS4 Pro might drop in price next fall,
    when Scorpio is due to hit shelves.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/311427ed994f91c8785a76c3b2c95a2302c8c49c4f5811e310403ae3e66f39de.png

    • kee1haul

      So it’s ok to pay $399 for PS4 pro now, but not for scorpio next year?

    • crazy_black_man-

      The moral of the story is at any price, the Scorpio is late to the party. But at $399 it will fracture the Xbox brand. Retailers will be burdened with inventory from the previous iterations of Xbox hardware. It will just serve to further cheapen the value of the Xbox brand.

    • Psionicinversion

      by your logic ps5 is late to the party after scorpio!”!

    • kee1haul

      lol Xbox Two will be late, PS6, will be late, Xbox Three will be late, PS7 will be late. He’s crazy.

    • Psionicinversion

      Yeah dayum that ultrarealistic gaming booth from the film gamer is already late, someone must be slacking somewhere!!

    • crazy_black_man-

      No actually that’s your logic. By my logic, the PS5 hasn’t been announced. You’re reaching for the ledge again. You can’t get there from here son.

    • Psionicinversion

      That’s because there’s no more PlayStation after the pro. Enjoy out while it lasts because no more console

    • kee1haul

      Thats exactly the same situation as Playstation. If PSPro can be a success, so can scorpio.

    • crazy_black_man-

      No games to push the hardware. No exclusive software to recover hardware losses equal failure. Wake up kiddies and face reality. You all know how this works. You don’t need me to explain it to you. Devs are already saying that they aren’t making upgraded Scorpio versions of their games where the PS4 Pro is getting many upgraded games. Its a sad situation.

    • kee1haul

      Name two devs.

    • Tomaterrrx

      He has nothing. I gave him proof to back-up my claims and now he is silent, lol. Expect littlee from the fangirl.

    • Tomaterrrx

      ‘Devs are already saying that they aren’t making upgraded Scorpio versions’ Who said that?

    • Tomaterrrx

      That’s IF Sony reduces the price of the Pro when the Scorpio comes out and IF Scorpio is priced 399.

      Scorpio will be significantly more powerful than the pro, run multiplats better (cuz Sony fanboys are all about multiplats), run VR games better, it will probably have a 4K blu-ray drive since the S already has one and it may come with a few tricks up its sleeve. I think it could easily compete wit the Pro if MS make smart decisions. Not much has been officially announced for Scorpio so anything could happen.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Dude, don’t get too excited, it’ll be just another Xbox. No one is jumping for joy for Xbox consoles these days. They have nothing but problems. They are a technical disaster. They’re cheaply built, the controllers are janky, they barely last the full warranty period. Who cares what the Scorpio can do. Iys just not enough to turn the tides against Sony. You’re a dreamer. You’re all dreamers. The Xbox fan base has been dreaming of the Scorpio since 2013. Truth is …it will ultimately just disappoint you…AGAIN.

    • Tomaterrrx

      None of what you said can be backed up. Everything you just said is a load of fluff.

      How is the xbox one cheaply built? Where is your proof for that. And don’t give me some random one off article. Give me a widespread problem that many people are experiencing with the hardware. Last time I checked both the PS4 and Xbox One were praised for having extremely low failure rates compared to the yellow light on the PS3 phat and rrod on the early 360s. Same goes for the controller. MS spent millions refining the controller and in my experience I haven’t had a single problem with it.

      ‘Who cares what the Scorpio can do’ Ok now you’re just making me laugh. Are you really damage controlling that much? ‘Who cares’? Well you certainly do considering I’ve seen you in multiple articles bashing the Scorpio when you know next to nothing about it.

    • crazy_black_man-

      The failing disc drive is a wide spread problem. The controllers desyncing is a wide spread problem.

    • Tomaterrrx

      How does that make it a ‘technical disaster’? Exaggertion much? Every electrical appliance has problems. A technical disaster is something truly terrible. For example RROD on the 360 or the recent exploding galaxy note 7s.

      Other consoles have these kinds of problems. Your precious PS4 Pros have a widespread problem about connecting to TVs and not displaying HDR or 4K images. And last year a system update that caused the system to not read game disks.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Links please.

    • Tomaterrrx

      http ://www.techtimes.com/articles/70133/20150720/users-report-ps4-disc-reading-problems-and-everyone-thinks-its-due-to-latest-system-update.htm (remove the space after the http)

      http ://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2016/11/21/ps4-pro-tv-connection-problems-sony-responds-and-you-probably-wont-like-it/#174c8b7d4e27 (remove the space after the http)

    • Tomaterrrx

      Accepted defeat already?

  • Lodmot

    I honestly don’t expect the Switch to be successful at all. Wishful thinking all around.
    The general marketplace expects powerful cutting-edge hardware, cloud gaming and media features in the latest game consoles.
    As a faithful 90’s gamer though, I want _none_ of the above to happen, and I most certainly want Nintendo to succeed. However pragmatism doesn’t go with optimism unfortunately, and I can’t say I’m very optimistic for Nintendo. :/

  • LifeOnMars

    At $500 it will sell well for a few months then die.
    If it’s $ 350 , not built like a 1980’s VCR, and some exclusive IP’s I may buy one myself.

    • kee1haul

      I’ts not going to be $500. They will match the Pro price, or slightly above. Microsoft Surface team have designed it, same people who did the S, so I’d imagine its going to be a good build. No exclusive IPs though. Thats the whole deal, no gamer left behind.

    • LifeOnMars

      2 out of 3 then, but the no IP’s is a deal breaker. My money will remain in my pocket i’m afraid.

    • kee1haul

      Give it a few years and there will HAVE to be exclusive IPs. Devs will want to show off. They just can’t break the promise not to leave gamers behind just yet.

    • LifeOnMars

      So it’s only a three year wait then…

  • Luke Skywalker

    Once patcher says it you know it’ll be the opposite.

  • Clause

    The joke known as PS4 pro which has pretty much flopped, has opened the door big time. I hope they price it above the PS4 pro. No 4k bluray, running games worse than the PS4 and barely noticeable upscaling put the pro where it belongs….in the bargain bin.

    • Mark

      Ahaha. Yeah I think Sony miscalculated the impact of leaving out the 4K Bluray player. Discussions about its actual value aside, the perception is negative when u ignore 4K Bluray, and the S Model is evidence of that to me. S’why it’s selling so well

    • crazy_black_man-

      No one is buying movies any more in droves. Its a waste of money. No one is especially buying 4k movies. People really don’t care about this. Only you fanboys with no ammunition. You guys are crying about buying physical games over going digital because you claim convenience, but now you’re claiming that everyone is buying physical movie discs? Shut the hill up already. You’re all lame fanboys.

    • crazy_black_man-

      Why did you buy one then if it is a flop? Are you that stupid or what?

    • Clause

      Birfday gift…a bad one

    • crazy_black_man-

      Somebody loves you way too much. Ungrateful little turd. You deserve to be on Xbox. You fit right in with those little brats.

  • Hans Olo

    Now remember Pachter is usually wrong……so when he says Nintendo will sell out…..think the exact opposite…….Sales will tank

    • kee1haul

      Any man on the street is right more often than Pachter. He shouldn’t get the headlines.

    • Hans Olo

      I totally agree and honestly I am not making a joke this time but…..Pachter ever predicted anything 100% correct?

  • Riggybro

    $399 seems a pretty good guess:

    -It’s still a whole year away.
    -It’s only 6TF (and as Uncle Phil says should be in the GTX 980 ballpark).

    GTX 980 can be bought for $299 on sale these days in 12 months something similar will be way less plus MS will have a special bulk deal with AMD with a custom part so GPU will be cheap as.

    The CPU will be cheap, HDD will be cheap etc… so $399 will be sold at profit in 12 months no probs.

    OR

    in 12 months you can spend a couple of hundred more and get something 2-3 x more powerful with 40 years of backwards compatibility of PC games, consoles plus all the latest Xbox games
    i.e – a PC
    Just plug it into your TV.
    Why get a Scorpio?
    (If you really MUST support MS you still will be getting Window$ so don’t worry about that).

    • Mark

      Riggy I hear u, but some of us will NEVER get into PC gaming, especially now that consoles are being updated to mid-range PC performance. I was really thinking about going PC, but I love how simple consoles are. PC may be better ultimately, but ur always gonna have a huge segment of gamers who choose lower performance for ease of use. It is what it is

    • jp

      same here, gaming in PC since 99, got my X1 last year and said goodbye to stupid PC config for bad ports, etc. I just want to sit and game with my Elite controller.. Scorpio all the way next year baby!

    • Riggybro

      Yeah I understand. I was being little tongue in cheek ;o)
      I like sitting on the couch with the console too. Especially with FPS lately.

      There may not always be such a separation though. Windows PC and Xbox seem to be edging closer and closer together through software and hardware. The obvious problem for MS at the moment is the mighty Steam (and the currently terrible MS store) … and perhaps lawsuits if MS try creating a monopoly again (ha).

    • Mark

      Yeah agreed. We know dam well that if Microsoft could, they’d monopolize PC gaming too. U don’t just wake up one day being a 300+ billion dollar corporation by simply providing good services and products. I don’t worship these companies, I just buy what excites me. Although I do see consoles being out for quite awhile, I’m starting to here about the push toward “Services. Services”, more. So eventually, we’ll prolly end up playin BattleField 10 thru the cloud on our TVs someday. It’ll happen cuz there’s a bigger profit margin there….

    • Joe Cool

      I really don’t think anyone buys an Xbox to support Microsoft. Mark hit the nail on the head as to why a lot of us will never pc game.

    • Riggybro

      Are you familiar with this “โ™๏ธ”?

    • TPoppaPuff

      Ya but if I game on PC I’ll have to play with elitists. No thanks.
      (That and I really like FPS’s on controllers)

  • Mr Xrat

    Nooooooooooooooo! The Pachter curse!

    We all knew the Shitpio was gonna be a joke anyway.

  • Mark

    Four hundred too much next yr?! Pffff; Native 4K gaming, 4K BluRay player, back compat with ALL 360 games, blah blah blah. C’mon, Pach doesn’t even try to hide his inner Pony now. This guy hates Microsoft, or atleast the Xbox Division, sheesh

    • crazy_black_man-

      Maybe he hates bad consumer electronics coupled with bad corporate policies ruining console gaming? I know that’s what I hate.

    • Mark

      Please man. Both of what u stated can be made into an argument against the PS4 and Sony. It’s MAINLY subjective. But u have ur opinion, cool.

    • Alistein

      I don’t think it’s hate. I think guys like these call out prices like this to force the hand of corporations like MS. By calling this price he has managed to spread this agenda and now there is so much debate on the topic calling for this price. He calls himself an analyst and has been wrong almost all the time but no one calls him out however big sites like IGN have clearly been distancing their site from him. Only small sites like this keep running to him hoping to grow their site.

    • Mark

      Well it’s like he’s always bashing Microsoft, like sayin the S wouldn’t sell because Scorpio was announced…wtf?

    • Alistein

      He’s just trying to be relevant. My gripe however is why does this site continue to interview him considering is ever hardly correct. Other sites are staying far from his bogus predictions but I’m guessing Gamingbolt is just using these continuous interviews to boost their site.

    • Mark

      Yeah true. I remember GameTrailers used to give Pachter a segment on their channel, before they shut down. And I could never understand why he was on there lol. Now he has a name in gaming, so maybe GamingBolt’s getting him for traffic like u said. But not too long ago this guy predicted consoles were coming to an end soon!

    • Mark

      Also I just don’t see Microsoft adjusting Scorpio’s price because of some guy who gets so many “prophecies” wrong. They know he’s bogus. In the recent past he had to apologize to Phil for twisting his words, I’m like dam man, ahaha. However, I actually hope Pachter’s right about Scorpio’s price point!

    • Alistein

      I don’t know I’ll like Scorpio to be all it can be and not have to be constrained due to the ps4pro. i’d say 600 is a good price for me assuming it comes with all the bells and whistle. $400 is a little scary for me, it just doesn’t seem like you can get a true beast of machine capable of high to ultra end pc gaming at that price but at 600 I’ll bite and I’d gladly pay.

    • Mark

      U know I expect it to be 450-600 range. I do think they can get Ultra or Max settings on Scorpio but it’d be 1080p, possibly 1440p. No way in 4K tho. I’d take that personally

    • Mark

      I don’t put it past any of these guys to be promoting Sony

  • Bamf

    Scorpio @ $400? Doesn’t sound like it will come with extra hardware then.

    I feel for 2 cheap Nintendo systems before; I think I’ll wait at least for a bundle.


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