Xbox One X’s Full Potential Won’t Be Held Back By Its CPU, Says Observer Dev

Observer’s Xbox One X patch details will be revealed closer to the console’s launch.

Posted By | On 15th, Aug. 2017 Under News


Bloober Team’s Observer is finally out and despite our own review scoring it in the slightly above average range, it’s been met with positive critical acclaim thus far. With the game releasing on PS4, Xbox One and PC, what are the development team’s thoughts on the game potentially running on Xbox One X?

GamingBolt spoke to brand manager Rafał Basaj about the power of the Xbox One X and whether Observer would run at 4K resolution and 60 frames per second on the upgraded console. Basaj responded that, “The Xbox One X is still a few months shy from release, we will disclose any information regarding Observer on this console closer to the release date of the hardware.”

In our opinion, the Xbox One X’s CPU is not an impressive iteration over the original found in Xbox One. Although there have been improvements in clock speed and command processor instructions, the leap isn’t as impressive as in the case of the GPU and memory allocation. In other words the CPU is still a bit weak compared to other improvements in the box. Would said CPU weakness prevent the console from reaching its full potential? Thankfully, Basaj had a few words to offer on the Xbox One X and its CPU.

Basaj responded that, “The Xbox One X is closer in specs to the PC gaming rigs right now, which will always benefit developers releasing their games on multiple platforms. As long as the GPU is solid a lot of calculating can be moved from the CPU to the video card, so it shouldn’t be a huge problems for developers to fully realize the potential of the new console.”

The Xbox One X will release on November 7th and will support numerous games like Crackdown 3, Halo 5: Guardians, Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3 and Gears of War 4 out of the box (and with updates).


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  • crizz1066

    So far from what I’ve scene, the Xbone un will struggle to hit 60FPS 4k with most but most basic of games. Remined me again of the point of the Xbox?? It’s just a deadend OS. Buy a decent PC if 4k and high FPS is your thing, not a console!!!

    • Reclaimer13

      1X will hit 4k/60 on games that run at 900p-1080p/60 on the base xbox one. Games that run at 900p-1080p/30 on the base xbox one will run at 4k/30 on the 1X.

      I’d probably build a pc if I was able to play the 500+ xbox games I own on it. The 1X will play them all.

    • crizz1066

      It will struggle to play any but a very few games at 4k 60FPS. Which is what Philly boy and the M$ media spin dept was selling 6months ago. Now its adtully a thing and it seems as if it can’t do what the said it would. (Yet again M$ fail to deliver what they promise)

      500 games lol yeah OK whatever……..you should lower the quanity of games you imagine you own, you won’t look so stupid.

    • ReadySalted

      That’s not unfeasible to own over 500 Xbox games. I do too. He didn’t say Xbox One games, just Xbox, so that counts the older gen games. Over 12 years of game collecting from the 360 days and you get 48 free games a year on Xbox Live Gold.

    • crizz1066

      OK it’s feaseable but bit unrealistic. Sounds like its quaunity over quality to me. Guess thats why likes the Xbox.

      I purchase a new machine as I wont to play new games. I don’t go and buy a BluRay player and then purchase or watch videos.

      Also is it not possible to play most xbox games on PC anyway?

    • ReadySalted

      I doubt they are all chosen and paid for, so there most likely is games that wouldn’t really get played.

      That’s like saying you will buy a Blu-Ray player and stop watching your favourite films as they’re too old. I have favourite films and new tech doesn’t stop me watching them! I like old games as well as new ones, it’s anti-gamer to say that you should only play new games.

      It sure is possible and it’s a great feature for gamers to be able to play your games on other devices. If you think otherwise, then you may as well give up gaming.

    • crizz1066

      So its a pointless statment, if he’s not played them before!!!!!!

      So you have a Bluray player and a VCR still to watch old movies?? Or did you upgrade and get your favs on DVD or Bluray? Pretty sure like the vast majority of us. You’ve got rid of the old VCR and have got all you favs on Disk.

      What are you on about? BC is an unwanted feature, it’s hardly used! They did away with it on PS3 as no used it back then. The only reason and I mean the only reason, is to stop the flood leaving Xbox. But too little too late. That Xbone was dead before it leaft the stalls!!

    • ReadySalted

      He may well have done, we’re just assuming. He can still play them, even if he hasn’t yet, so it’s still valid.
      I would rebuy a favourite film in the new format. In the case of Xbox, my old games get a little performance boost but I don’t need to rebuy them. It’s a more consumer friendly approach than films. You’re saying you play new games with a new console, I say I am better off for playing both old and new. Otherwise, I have wasted my money on the games I bought for the old consoles and my favourite games never get played again.
      You are the epitome of anti-gamer. You would rather not have access to your old games over having them playable on your new console for free? Seriously, do you even enjoy games? Half of all Xbox One gamers have used back compat, so millions of people are happy with the feature. I bet you would like PCs only play recent games too, why not remove access to all games past a year or so, right?
      The PS3 got rid of back compat as it was PS2 hardware in the console and it was cheaper to manufacture the console without this inside. Xbox One still isn’t dead 4 years down the line…

    • crizz1066

      Not ordered or played….so whats the point??!?

      It’s a small feature for a small amount of people.

      There is always a small amount of people who buck the trend and do weird things. But I do belive the majority of gamers like to play new games most of the time. Only a small amount want BC

    • Luke Skywalker

      It’s amusing to me how PC guys are out of the woodwork now. Enjoy your PC buddy others will enjoy their consoles.

    • crizz1066

      I do enjoy my PS4 and PC, I’m just pointing out that if you want 4k 60FPS on all your games you have to get a PC, thats all. Why is this wrong to point out a fact??

      M$ and Phil touted the new X1 has being able to delievry 4k 60FPS. Yet again it turns out to be just M$ marketting spin and bull.

      I wonder if this is the same account as Darth Vader hhhmmmmm, sounding like the same boring record!!

    • Steve Arturo

      A good gaming pc is $2k to $4k nice try lol

    • crizz1066

      No an Uber gaming rig cost that much!!!!

    • Luke Skywalker

      Who said anything about 4k 60 on all games?
      For the price it’s price the Xbox is definitely giving a whole lot that a PC at the same price can’t give at this time.

      Same boring record? It seems you don’t like the peace you like contention, gtfo bro. And if I was dark vador I’d tell you gtfo too. I’m in gaming for the rest enjoyment, not to spew crap like you. How about that?

    • Fweds

      All that matters at the end of the day to the average consumer is which console will run multi format titles best, we saw a very good example of that with 1080p Vs 900p upscaled and how it was used to sell the PS4.

      Well now that situation is about to be reversed weather you like it or not.
      The Xbox1X beats the hardware of the PlayStation at every level that is the only fact people will be interested in when they switch on their 4k tv, and of course the Xbox also has the big advantage of having the ultimate picture quality Ultra HD Blu-ray player in that same box which is ideal for 4k TV.

    • crizz1066

      LOL 900p upscalling to 1080…that was the X1’s trcik!! So you’re not foing well so far.

      LOL – Solid media is on the way out, the HDR Drive is not really wanted. Sony part of the team that devloped it, so I’d guess they know the direction things going in. Streaming is way forward not engery and material hungry fixed media.

      I really don’t think it’s going to sell anyway near as much or as fast as the PS4 did. Well in ‘merica, but you guys don’t worry about quality just naked raw power. But world wide, thikn it’s gona struggle.

    • Fweds

      Yes I was clearly talking about the 1080p and 900p comparisons which helped sell the PS4 over the Xbox One, can’t you even work that out.
      Multi format titles on Digital foundry etc and now that advantage will be reversed.

      Streaming lol, try telling that to millions who will never stream lower quality media over native hardware.
      The Xbox one S and X are the only machines other than standalone separate Ultra HD Blu-ray players that can show the best quality movies,it’s an amazing feature to also have built into one small console.

      Power was everything for the PS4 especially for multi format titles but now there is a machine about to be released that is more powerful in every way than the PS4 and will show multi format titles at the best quality of any console
      And if course all of a sudden power doesn’t matter,. Err LOL.

    • crizz1066

      Many many reasons the PS4 destroyed the Xbox out of the
      blocks and the upscaling the X had to do pushing 900 to 1080 was a small
      reason.

      Sony said it would be 1080 next gen video quality, which is
      what they delivered. M$ promised the same and failed. It was far too expensive
      also, as M$ forced the kinnect onto to you recuperate the millions lost in
      R&D. I could go on, but until the slim came out the X1 was a joke!!! Hence
      why it sold so badly and still struggles anyway but its home back yard.

      LOL you believe that everyone will go and purchase 4k Bluray
      which is far too cost prohibitive. As I say Sony have been at the forefront of the
      solid media for decades, remember they are part of development for all of it. They
      are the ones saying that solid media is on the way out.

      I’ve upgrade from video, to DVD to Blu Ray for most of my films, I’m not with
      4k, I download and store. Which is the way the world is going, like it or not.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      You won’t find a pc that can run forza in 4k at 60fps with only half it’s gpu power. Not for 500 bucks at least.
      Go buy a pc for 500 and you’ll come back with a ps4 pro type build.

    • chrisday85

      You won’t even get PS4 pro resolution. You might get a higher frame rate though, due to not having a cpu bottleneck.

      I decided to buy a whole new pc instead of upgrade and I have to say it’s frustrating to see games like Deus ex, to play 60fps costs over $1000 even at 1080p, forget about 4k. In terms of gaming you’re really going to get the best experience at 1440p right now, if you really want to avoid any dips, which most us pc gamers do. Consoles are remarkably stable in qframe rate by comparison, especially compared to my gtx 1060 build which is why I finally built a new one rather than

      My set up I got super cheap parts too, discounts on everything (if you’re clever new egg always has great sales when you wait for it) and I’m ending up with a vega 64, Ryzen 1700, ddr4 3000, etc at about a thousand dollars that barely looks that much better than even PS4 pro.

      Also, keep in mind Xbox one x is freesync compatible.

      This will be amazing for people who have it, as the issue isn’t 30fps, not really anyway. It’s drops to either 20 or 40 combined with what a monitor does with refresh rates, combined with how that translates to input lag, which affects the feel of the game. Xbox one x is clearly the superior console choice. If you are rich buy a computer but don’t pretend consoles aren’t worth it. They are.

    • Mark

      Vsync adds to input lag?! Wow I didn’t know. And thx for ur comment, a little eye opening for me haha

    • chrisday85

      Yes, it does. What happens with a frame rate that is locked is if you get under it duplicates frames. This makes horrible stuttering. 20 fps with a 30 lock will feel like crap, 40 with a 60 cap will feel like crap.

      A vsync lock to 30 or 60 will introduce input lag, as well as dramatically slow down your gpu. You won’t be able to vsync a game even above 1440p currently, without dips to 40’s causing severe jolts during your gameplay that you can feel, unless you have a gtx 1080 or above (or
      Vega or above).

      Gpu reviews don’t tell the whole story.

      This is actually really annoying. Consoles that are more powerful solve this issue, due largely to drivers being optimized for hardware being set in stone, so if Xbox one x made a cpu upgrade I wouldn’t be buying a pc. Watch for the next consoles though. Even a Ryzen low class processor will have no problems at 60fps if mobile class cpus are doing this well on the Xbox one and PS4.

    • Mark

      Dam I didn’t even think of how big driver support is on console vs PC. That’s big to consider. So then, is it safe to say that the X1X’s Freesync feature will NOT, add input lag, due to optimized Xbox drivers?

    • chrisday85

      It won’t just not add lag, it will reduce it a ton. Consoles don’t usually have this feature, they never have. This will also allow 40fps gaming at 40hz refresh rates, no dropped or duplicated frames. You will need a freesync monitor though.

    • Mark

      That’s the thing…..I hear there’s no 4K TVs with Freesync! Nooooo. I wanna game on a 50′ inch TV!

    • chrisday85

      Ok I said I would update you, here is my commentary: Freesync 40FPS is real. Believe the hype. I tested at 100FPS, 140FPS (as this monitor goes to 144hz) and while you can somewhat tell as you get to 100FPS which feels about the peak, and much beyond that is only slight, the biggest difference here is in that even 40FPS feels dramatically better than standard 60fps/Hz refresh rates vsynced or not. This is amazing. It’s a big deal. You have to try it. How did I get the low frame rate you might ask? I super sampled the signal to 4k resolution on demanding games. Even 30 feels about the same as a 60, because you literally never feel the stuttering and chugging that happens when a 60fps refresh even hits temporary high 40’s. I thought this would be a big deal and it is. Frames are never duplicated, frames are never dropped, the fluidity is amazing. Your mind really only notices those drops or duplications. It is not that you even need a 60fps refresh rate. Microsoft was clever including this, now I need to know how they intend to use it, because if they freesync a few 4k games that can’t get to 60 to 30-40, I would be willing to go xbox one x and sell the computer I just got. Big, big deal. Get a freesync monitor.

    • Mark

      Aww yeuh, a “cinematic” 30 frames per second for the win! Lol. Nah that sounds pretty good man. If games could run super smooth at 30, that’d be a game changer for us and developers!

    • chrisday85

      Ah, well it appears when I said I was getting my freesync monitor on Monday they held that in pending so you never got that. Well, bottom line I said I would test it when I got it. My other comment was to update you as I had said I would though you didn’t get to see that, lol.

    • Mark

      Dude thx for the fantastic info. I swear I hope Microsoft announces compatible TVs with Freesynce next year…..

    • chrisday85

      Yeah, anytime. The reason I bought the freesync monitor was that I had some games that I could not play when I turned vsync on. It created that much input lag. The Witcher in particular was really bad, and Shadow of Mordor was semi bad, with Batman approaching the worst. These were third person games in which it’s usually harder to tell too, so the input lag must have been severe. Batman still has that input lag even on consoles by the way. They didn’t fix it, however, usually, most console games really focus on the input lag, and so it does really well even without tearing, such as Halo 5 and the Call of Duty series, where input lag matters a lot. They can do even better with freesync. Halo 5 is probably the closest I have felt to a freesync experience, but even that doesn’t come close. If you have played it, that should let you know how fluid the freesync is.

      If I turned off the vsync when I gamed on pc, the tearing really was annoying. The higher your frame rate, the more tearing, because it varies even more. If you have a max 200 frame rate, with an average of 100 and a minimum of 60, you’re going to be in tearing city, specifically because of how fast your video card is. The game would just get distracting.

      Also, vsync has a huge performance hit. It slows down your graphic card, not just the input lag, but the frame rate. This is a big reason I abandoned my gaming rig as well. It might have had better frame rates, but it didn’t really play better and I spent a thousand dollars. The graphics also weren’t that much better. I could run Gears 4 at max settings, or the Witcher at max settings, or FFXIV even in 4k, it really wasn’t a large gap.

      Now, having tested this, the freesync does indeed put the pc in another league. As a side note, the VR somehow did not have this problem, so VR games were always buttery smooth.

      I’m not sure why…Considering that system is in development.

    • crizz1066

      Yes you can, if it possible for M$ to make one and only lose or make a small profit on each. Then all of those pieces of hardware will be copied made availble to purchase. Its the way of the world these day.

      Now it’s not even availble yet and it looks as if it’s gona struggle to hit 4k 60FPS on most games. So as I say if you want 4k 60FPS get a PC

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Yes Microsoft can after spending a quarter of a billion dollars developing the Scorpio engine with amd and buying millions of cpus and gpus in bulk and they can barley make it for around 400 bucks.

      In the mean time you yourself can not build a pc with brand new parts at retail, that’ll outperform the xbx, for 500 bucks. You can buy used parts,but then again you can buy a used Scorpio for around 300 bucks.

    • Brook phillips

      I would ask you how many games you play on your PC at 4K and 60fps but we all know you would lie through your teeth.

    • crizz1066

      None as I still only own a 1080 Monitor. After spending over 2.5K on my glorious 50inch 4k TV. Don’t have the cash.

      So take your jumping to WRONG conclusions and shove it!!

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      Those Sony Poopnies and their imaginary powerful PC haha

    • Wei Feng

      Yet the xbox x is a 30fps checkerboarder………

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      The protato is a 1440p 20-30 fps haha

    • kentray1985

      The point of the Xbox one X is to play 4k games on console at a decent price with decent frame rates. Who ever said the Xbox one X is 4k 60fps ready for every game. Sorry sir but at $500 thats as good as its going to get with 4k gaming. Show me a link with a PC that cost $500 that can do what the Xbox one X can do and I will apologize to you!

    • crizz1066

      Er Philly boy and the M$ media spin team said it would do 4k 60FPS. Look if M$ can build this and still make/lose small profit, then all of the parts will be readily avaiilbale for purchase. It is the way of the world these days.

    • ReadySalted

      When did they say it was a 4K60 console?
      Buy a Windows licence and you have spent 1/5 of your budget. Now how will you get a 4K60 PC built with $400?

    • crizz1066

      They said it everywhere.

      Err no it’s £25 so that’s 5% or 1/20th to make it easier for you to understand! If you can’t even get basic maths right. Why am I not surprissed your trying to defend M$??? Run along now and go get some maths lessons!!!

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      Prove it then. Prove that they said 4K at 60fps.

    • crizz1066

      Shut UP!!!! M$ have lie each and everytime their new box comes out. Rember that integral kinnect they said you had to have??? They said it far and wide, I’m not going to cut n paste statements for you.

      Prove me wrong!!!

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      Like a child who has been caught in a lie. You made the claim and can’t provide proof so you scream like a 5 year old.

      So in conclusion you can’t provide proof where they said 4K at 60fps. Got it.

    • Tomaterrrx

      Ignore him. MS is in his nightmares lol he can’t help it.

    • crizz1066

      Yes ijnore me, go on please….you never have anything to say and you go so far off topic to try and bash Sony. I don’t defend Sony, I just posint out that M$ have screwed over it’s customer base alot more and only care about getting money off people. Sony being an asian company does not work like bully boy western comapnies. It’s a completely differnt philosphy. But I be you know next to nothing about another coutry except your own!!!

    • Tomaterrrx

      I treat Sony and MS as an equal. Of course I have a bias for MS but im not blind to see either of their faults. You just plain lie on this thread just to bash MS.

      My family are from Asia, smh. You are quick to judge aren’t you?

    • crizz1066

      My counsins are German, it doesnt mean I can speak German. Think it’s a litlle racist yourself, saying that just cuz your ancestors come from an area means you know all about it.

      You obviusly don’t, as I’ve said there is a huge differemnce between philosophies, in buinsess between western and eastern companies.

      You moan at me for “lieing” yet M$ fleeced on the “integral” kiinect. They shouted that crap from the roof tops.

      You bore me now, you have nothing new to say.

    • Tomaterrrx

      I didn’t mean that at all. I was dropping a hint that I know about other countries, not just the one I was born in. Also, I’ve travelled all around Asia (not to Japan unfortunately) but I’m pretty sure this ‘philosophy’ is similar in other Asian countries. Please give me examples of things that Sony has done to reflect this philosophy that Western companies haven’t done.

      Keep lying bub.

    • crizz1066

      You may not have meant that, but its how you commnet came across.

      If you’re not awear of this for all your travels and your family. How is me posting links going to change you??? If you don’t find the infomation yourserlf, you’ll just spin it away….

      Just look at the way they adodopt to keep things in the fmaily name, go from there.

      Open your eyes instaed of juist airconditions hotels

    • crizz1066

      And you can’t prove they didn’t. So stalemate.

      It’s all over the place, I remebr readying the cooments sections and seeing all your Xbox Accolytes crowing about it.

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      Sorry no stalemate. I already proved it because it’s not there, it’s not all over the place at all. You on the other hand must prove it but I know you won’t because you are full of lies.

    • crizz1066

      You’ve proved nothing. I made a statement, which you’ve disagreed with. You’ve offered up no proof that what I say hasnt been said. Only that you can’t find it.

      Well unless you clean your cookies regulalry (which I doubt you do) you’re only going to see the same old, same old, the interent is a big place. Is it not feasible possible that I’ve seen articles you havent!

      Now un-twsit your panties and run along!

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      You where proven wrong and now won’t admit to it. You lost and you cried “SHUT UP” like a 5 year old when told the truth they don’t want to hear.

      Prove it or simply stop lying ok.

    • crizz1066

      Hahahahahahahah

      You have proved nothnig, you have made a statement. Same as me!!!

      You sound like those religious nutters who say “prove theres no god” now!!!!

      This is why you’re boring me.

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      Nice fallacy. Well thanks for waving the white flag of surrender. You were unable to provide proof of your claim so you failed to pass your lie as the truth.

    • crizz1066

      You go belive what you want, I’m bored of you now with these stupid statements. As thats all you seem to have.

      I’ll try n remeber you name, so I dont waste my time commenting on you anymore. Please do the same with me, I enjoy a good debate but you’re just boring!!!Prove ir, prove it, prove it LOL!!!

    • It_Is_What_It_Is

      You don’t know how to have a debate. You are just a child throwing tantrums. You failed to back up your claim when confronted. Trying to block off the sun with your hand isn’t going to work.

      And yes “prove it” is the essence of a debate one which you failed miserably.

    • ReadySalted

      You need to add English lessons to accompany your maths lessons.

    • Fweds

      Who is M$ ?

      Why don’t you just admit you are a $ony lackey instead of trying to underplay the amazing power of the Xbox1X, why don’t you tell us why your PS Protato is already obsolete ? .

      You don’t talk about the Pro, Mrxrat doesn’t want to talk about the Pro, not even the press talk about the Pro, it’s underpowered and under featured and already forgotten.

      Now show the proof where you say they said “4k 60fps” EVERYWHERE.

    • crizz1066

      I’m no lacky I just point out little facts, that really get under the skin of alot of your but hurt Xbox fools 🙂

      I do talk about the pro, I’ll be getting it when they drop the price to combat the Xbox launch.

      The fact you’re now saying the press doesnt talk about it. Make’s me think you’re Trump supported who calls everything fake if he doesnt agree with it!!!!

      lean how the internet works and clean your cookies, open you eyes a bit!!

    • ReadySalted

      Prove it. If it was “everywhere” it shouldn’t take you long.

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/d/windows-10-home/D76QX4BZNWK4/1NT3?icid=Cat-Windows-mosaic_banner1-home-042517-en_GB

      £119.99 incl. VAT.

      Xbox One X is £450. Now you’re at 26% of the budget, maths genius.

    • Fweds

      Congratulations you got 20 FAKE UPVOTES from “Mrxrat”s Upvote Bot.

  • dxhelios

    Weaker compared to what? Clickbait?

  • Sean Comer

    Can’t wait till 1st party titles release I’m sure they will kill this whole CPU debate which shouldn’t exist in the first place as even in a worst case scenario Xbox one x is objectively more powerful than the pro across the board its the first console I can recall being the best by evey single metric.

    • Mr Xrat

      They already look like trash, I’m afraid.

    • Wei Feng

      Yes, its a checkerboarding 30fps powerhouse.

  • Reclaimer13

    Gotta love how gaming bolt tried to bait this guy into saying something negative about the cpu in the xbox one. Nice try though. He flat out said the cpu will not prevent the console from fully reaching its potential.

    • Mr Xrat

      When the base hardware is already holding it back, I’m not surprised.

    • Reclaimer13

      It’s a mid-gen refresh. It was built to run current gen games at 4k with 4k textures and assets and more stable frame-rates. Nothing more.

    • Mr Xrat

      “4K textures and assets”

      lol there’s that line again.

    • Wei Feng

      The Fans must be holding it back by asking for 30fps checkerboard games?

      Sound very unlikely a performance powerhouse CPU like the Jaguar would.

      Naughty fans

    • Reclaimer13

      Your mom must be so proud of you Mr Xrat. How many sock accounts you rocking these days? It’s gotta be a guiness world record.

  • Robert Thomson

    If you kept up with the news you would know the cpu has had extensive customisation and a huge amount of work done to it. Clock speed isn’t everything. The whole console was designed around how games are coded and any bottlenecks found on the previous console have been eliminated. All the parts are made to match each other with the purpose of playing titles in full 4k resolution. Literaly designed from the ground up for this purpose. All the information is out there if you care to look! See comments sections all over the web with badly informed people spouting garbage about Xbox one x.

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      They aren’t misinformed they are just trying to spread the message that the xbx will be held back by its cpu.

      Im sure that deep down they know what’s up and it’s why Mr Xrat keeps mentioning the cpu and forgets about its efficiency.

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      MrXrat = Wei Feng= Revolver Ocelot= Quimicomortal = D*mb and D*mber haha

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Has been bragging about 8.4tf but the games still only output half the pixels as the xbx versions.lol

    • Wei Feng

      How’s “uncompromised 4k” working out so far for the xbox x?

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Yeah but it already has more native 4k AAA titles before launch than ps4 pro does after a year. :, (
      Don’t come at me with sport titles and rocket league ok.lol

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      Xbox 4k vs ps4 4k
      No competition.

      https://youtu.be/KqZ9By31KU4

    • kentray1985

      Ok did you not read the article or care that industry devs are saying the cpu wont be a issue. Have you not payed attention that all MS created games have a native 4k resolution with some like gears being 60fps? How much more proof do you need that the Xbox one X will be the best console to play on when released. The Ps4pro is just not up to par with Xbox one X but are even seeing that part or are you only seeing Sony’s?exclusives. Look at the facts man, im just saying!

    • SJ777

      It isnt badly informed people, its sony paid meatpuppets astroturfing social
      & gaming media. Its all about damage control right now. I predicted a couple days ago that sony would push a misinformation campaign in regards to the ps4 pro, and low and behold that creepy pedophile looking Mark Cerny guy has came out with “8.4 teraflops” “half float” line of complete and utterly irrelevant horses***. lol How f***in stupid do they think people are?

      I knew it was coming. If sony could astroturf the web and get poor naive people to believe the ps3 was the beast console in 2005, you had better believe they are willing to feed naive people another s*** sandwich now. Hopefully, people have become aware that astroturfing is a real thing. There was a group at Oxford that did a study several years ago and they concluded that roughly 1/3 of information surrounding public opinion was by meatpuppet & sockpuppet marketing. That Xrat account that posts here is a meatpuppet account. Ive seen his posts be upvoted to the top instantly with my own eyes. Anyone that posts here knows that doesnt happen that fast.

      The good thing though is that the X1X is so much more powerful than either playstation 4 console that anything sony tries to twist will be met with saturated factual proof. Although Digital Foundry will undoubtedly be there to dole out the proof through testing, anyone with a 4K screen over 40in will be able to see the proof with their naked eye.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Mark Cerny has never had a reason to BS, he’s very Tech Savy Smart and been truthful his whole career.

      Its not so cut and dry as no one would code FP16 an entire engine with it. (Ok Maybe Minecraft).

      A more reasonable approach would be to say that the 4.2 TF limit of the Pro is somewhat flexible and if a game dev was to update their game engine to use FP16 in specific areas they could achieve a higher TF overall result vs a system that does not use the FP16x2.

      End result : Better games IF they update their game engines.

    • SJ777

      No this “half float” operation talk is PR horse**** and isnt going to amount to anything. Its the same kind of PR nonsense sony injected into the media with the Cell processor. 8 core Cell v/s the 3 core cpu in the 360. How did this end up? Developers used 1 core in the Cell v/s the 3 core cpu in the 360. The day we see the Ps4 Pro at 8.2 teraflops and outperforming the X1X will be the day Ill apologize and say you are right. I dont think that you or Mark Cerny will be holding your breath til then.

    • Mark

      Yeah if devs use more Rapid Packed Math in their engines, they’d get some very good frame rates for certain game elements….we’ll see what happens with Far Cry & Wolfenstein

    • Mr Xrat

      Xgimps still lying about FP16 and what it is because their joke can’t use it. Glorious.

    • Mr Xrat

      Hence all that juicy 30fps in games that look like trash like Crackdown 3.

      I haven’t seen damage control from Xgimps this good since E3.

    • SJ777

      4.2 teraflops magically becoming “8.4 Teraflops” lol you might fool some 4th graders with that spiel.

    • Mr Xrat

      That’s a gross simplification of it and not what it’ll do practically for games. Try again.

    • SJ777

      You can take the next few years explaining how complicated it is while the X1X wipes its a** with the Ps4 Pro. I dont want talk from a paid meatpuppet and a creepy engineer, I want undeniable proof in every game on the market for the Ps4 Pro. The day I have it, Ill gladly eat a bucket of crows and say you were right. Shouldnt be too hard considering the performance advantage of every console right now is in sequential order by amount of teraflops.

    • Mr Xrat

      Love how mad you Xgimps are because MS missed out on this rushing out their little 30fps upgrade.

      Maybe you should have done more pleading to Phil Spencer.

    • SJ777

      lol Im sorry I cant keep a straight face knowing that you and I are the only 2 people having this conversation. Do you prefer to be called MrXrat or Wei Feng? At least you didnt screw up and forget to switch accounts when replying to yourself like you did in your other comments below.

    • Wei Feng

      Much like DX12 turned the xbox one into a 1080p gaming machine from a salty 720p-900p TV is first media centre

    • SJ777

      lol Im sitting here watching you boost your comments you paid meatpuppet assclown.

    • kentray1985

      Uncharted 4, Horizon zero dawn, nor any other game on Playstation is running in true 4k and framerates to some games like Uncharted 4 takes a hit in frametates. Neither game on Ps4pro is hitting 60fps yet you are bashing the Xbox one X that can hit native 4k in most games at 30fps and 60fps with some. Man you and whoever is buying your bullahit are the gimps!

    • Mr Xrat

      “True 4K” Enough of MS’ marketing lines, please. Alas there are many games that run native 4K on the Pro. As for comparing the Pro to the Xbollox, it’s funny you’re now making direct comparisons after spending a year insisting your precious upgrade was supposed to be a cut above

      “Native 4K in most games”

      lol nope.

    • ReadySalted

      Like Lawbreakers for PS4 Pro? Sony clearly states it is 4K60:

      “For users that are hooked up to 4K televisions you can expect the ultimate visual clarity with a ultra-HD output of maximally 3840 x 2160 running at a wonderfully smooth 60FPS”.

      Source: https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2017/08/07/enhanced-for-ps4-pro-hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-lawbreakers-dreadnought-and-more/

      And yet it does nothing of the sort:

      “PS4 runs at a native 1600×900 resolution and with variable 30-60fps range of performance. Meanwhile, PS4 Pro renders at around 1440p (our count coming in at 1404p) with a much smoother frame-rate”.

      Source: https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2017-08-11-lawbreakers-ps4pro-vs-pc-graphics-comparison-frame-rate-test

      Enough of Sony’s BS, right? “…ultimate visual clarity with a ultra-HD output”, yet it’s running at half that. Lies, lies, lies!

    • Wei Feng

      Doesn’t sound “uncompromised 4k” ,- the most games.

      If the game is too hard on the system, its ok to be compromised I guess.

    • Branden KidOverdose Jones

      First party wont have this problem the potential is there. It’s up to developers to get it there. All Microsoft first parties will be native 4k. Period.

    • Wei Feng

      That’s True 4k right. Or the most truest of 4k?

    • Robert Thomson

      lmao. for most console gamers a solid 30fps is plenty, its all about 4k with one x. if I wanted 4k60 Id go out and spend 2k+ on a pc and 4k pc monitor. No thanks, been there and done that. even selling my gaming laptop now and selling my ps4 pro with most of the best titles (if interested and in the uk drop me a message btw) ill enjoy one x when it comes with all its 4k30/4k60 glory, yes there will be 4k60 games and absolute hoards of full 4k30 games. for what it can do its a bargain for the price, not to mention hdr and 4k blu ray.

    • Mr Xrat

      Just accept you’re an Xgimp who fell for hype and got burned. Now you have to tell yourself that CPU is “mega-customised” for the job of something the GPU mostly deals with.

      You’re better off sticking to hyping that movie player.

    • Robert Thomson

      Enjoy believing your own bullshit, troll. Why do you even waste your time on these places?

    • Wei Feng

      LOL I’m sure Misterxmedia forum is looking for a hidden Rzyen CPU to be unlocked in 2019 when the NDA expires or some horsesh7t

    • Wei Feng

      I thought they’ll cancel that PS3 looking game.

      The 720p sub 30fps xbox one version was canned.
      Some say it lead to the xbox x been made so they could a least get a locked 30

    • Fweds

      Why are you talking to yourself and then using an Upvote Bot to give all your different selves Fake Upvotes ?

  • Apollo Dean Campbell

    hasn’t anyone noticed that devs are even mentioning how direct X 12 is helping the CPU by 50%?

    • Reclaimer13

      That only applies to dx12 games.

  • Mr Xrat

    Not with indie games like observer.

    Sadly Xgimps are under the impression that their CPU isn’t a barely-upclocked Jaguar because their heavy delusions require it. Keep crying, Xgimps.

    • SJ777

      Do you know what binary-n gram analysis is used for? Do you know what authorship attribution is? Do you know if you are being paid then you are breaking the law?

      If you arent being paid then I feel pity for you.

    • Doggystyle ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Do you know you sound like a dumba ss?

      What law is he breaking? Hurry up and pull something out of your pitiful a ss.

  • SJ777

    No need to spin anything. I dont care about sales, I care about my experience while gaming.

  • Wei Feng

    Must be xbox x fans wanting checkerboard 30fps True 4k shooters right?
    and not weak hardware at all that is causing it.
    Right guys?

    From the “uncompromised 4K experience” to a narrative of praising 30fps checkerboarding as perfectly acceptable.

    • Wei Feng
    • Fweds

      The Xbox1X hardware beats the PlayStation hardware at every level so tell us what you think about the very Underpowered PS Pro ?

      Did you buy PS Pro thinking you would have the best console hardware for at least a few years ?

      Are you so angry about it that you set up multi accounts and use an Upvote Bot to post about a different console simply because it’s better than yours ?

      I suggest you complain to Sony as expressing your anger online is getting you nowhere.

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    • SJ777

      lmfao your right! He is replying to his own comment!

      It looks to me like he tried to boost a comment that he wasnt being exposed as a paid fraudulent poster as soon as he started adding upvotes to his comments. Talk about epic fail lol.

    • Wei Feng

      Its an epic win

    • Ian Williams

      Or revolver ocelot and other names.

    • Wei Feng

      I must be xrat then

    • Tomaterrrx

      Why are you replying to yourself?

    • Wei Feng

      who doesn’t

    • Mr Xrat

      I love how these losers think I’m you.

      I guess Xgimps are too used to being a hivemind.

    • SJ777

      lmao!!!! Its too late now.

    • Fweds

      Notice how all of a sudden their(his) fake 20 Upvotes they ‘both’ got on all ‘their’ previous posts have suddenly stopped.

    • SJ777

      Yeah, I sat here hitting refresh after he commented just to see what would happen. Once he got enough to reach the top the upvotes magically stopped.

    • Wei Feng

      Yeah, I’m not sure why they think that.
      I’m Ghey Asian boy

    • Tomaterrrx

      I feel sorry for you.

    • Wei Feng

      Like me in facebook so you wont

    • Tomaterrrx

      Right…..

    • Fweds

      Why are you and the media NOT talking about the PS4 pro anymore ?

      Why are you not talking about the fact that the Xbox1X beats the PlayStation hardware at every level ?

      Why do you need to use multiple accounts and then pretend you are talking to others when you are in fact talking to yourself ?

      Why are you using an Upvote Bot to make out people are agreeing with you and all your multis ?

    • ReadySalted

      Like Lawbreakers for PS4 Pro? Sony clearly states it is 4K60:

      “For users that are hooked up to 4K televisions you can expect the ultimate visual clarity with a ultra-HD output of maximally 3840 x 2160 running at a wonderfully smooth 60FPS”.

      Source: https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2017/08/07/enhanced-for-ps4-pro-hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-lawbreakers-dreadnought-and-more/

      And yet it does nothing of the sort:

      “PS4 runs at a native 1600×900 resolution and with variable 30-60fps range of performance. Meanwhile, PS4 Pro renders at around 1440p (our count coming in at 1404p) with a much smoother frame-rate”.

      Source: https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2017-08-11-lawbreakers-ps4pro-vs-pc-graphics-comparison-frame-rate-test

      Lies, lies, lies from Sony. No surprise there. Awaiting damage control.

    • MickaelSuarez

      “Like Lawbreakers for PS4 Pro? Sony clearly states it is 4K60:”
      Sony and MS are playing on words, remember the 1080p output for Quantum Break.

      Misleading from the both sides
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/69c797d1027781b053517a50a4af6a4de80295b42a39e31696ec4fdb49862584.jpg

    • ReadySalted

      Exactly the point. People give free pass to Sony but every manufacturer is guilty of misleading.
      That image isn’t misleading though. If anything, it’s very honest.

    • MickaelSuarez

      Microsoft will only put the 4k logo in front of their games boxes, for most consumer 4k means native 4k, so yeah it is misleading

    • ReadySalted

      Tell that to film companies. I have 4K Blu-Rays but have to research which films are actually filmed in 4K to see if it’s worth the cost versus a standard Blu-Ray. 2K upscaled films count as 4K, so it’s not surprising for Xbox to be using the same rules.

    • MickaelSuarez

      So because movie company are misleading consumers, it should be considered as normal Microsoft misleading consumers ?

      If this is what you’re thinking, you can’t complain about another company doing the same thing.

    • ReadySalted

      Look at your image again and check for the where it is misleading. The logo says 4K Ultra HD. It does not say ‘Native’ 4K Ultra HD, does it?
      Now look at what Sony said about Lawbreakers versus the reality. They’re the clear winner for misleading consumers.

    • MickaelSuarez

      4k is native 4k, nothing else.
      Seems like your “movie companies” example, searching for an excuse ?

    • Learned Handgun

      No, native 4k is native 4k. If 4k and native 4k were the same thing then there would be not need to specify native, but there are other 4k variants.

      I found the tidbit in movies to be interesting as i didn’t know it before. Sounds like it’s industry common across industries to use 4k as a label for all 4k variants. Misleading to uneducated consumers, perhaps, but if the information is out there (as in the case of Ms) and you don’t go to extra lengths to mislead (as Sony has) then it’s at just as much consumer ignorance as it is marketing trickery.

    • MickaelSuarez

      “No, native 4k is native 4k. If 4k and native 4k were the same thing then there would be not need to specify native, but there are other 4k variants.”
      Nope, we only need to specify native because some companies use wrongly the 4k term. So yeah, we are specifying something we don’t have to normally.

    • Learned Handgun

      Oh well. Don’t buy the Xbox or the pro. Or do. Idc

    • ReadySalted

      No, you’re trying to push your own agenda. If you don’t understand 4K, that’s your problem, not mine. You may as well complain to MS, Sony and Nintendo for putting ‘HD’ on their consoles as they all have games that run under 1080p.

    • Psionicinversion

      well the console are HD… Highly Deceiving!

    • MickaelSuarez

      “No, you’re trying to push your own agenda. If you don’t understand 4K”
      Nope, native res are native res…
      4k=4096×2160
      UHD=3840×2160

      That’s quite simple, a game without these native resolution mustn’t be label 4k/UHD.

      “You may as well complain to MS, Sony and Nintendo for putting ‘HD’ on their consoles as they all have games that run under 1080p.”
      There is a clear differce between HD and FullHD (1920×1080). They can deliver games under 1080p and still call them HD (if res stay >to SD).

      That’s quite simple…

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      It’s hilarious now just have a look.

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    • Wei Feng

      Compromised 4K at 30fps checkboarding✔
      Weak Jaguar to limit 60fps shooters✔
      No way it can win the generation anyway✔
      Broken E3 promise of a Monster✔
      Salty tears exclusive list of games✔

    • Mr Xrat

      Yeah, it’s technically an ultra-HD output because the signal being sent is upped to 4K, the TV isn’t doing the upscaling. Combine that with the fact that for the most part the checkerboarding method provides a nearly indetectable difference compared to the Xbone’s upscaling and the only people who really care are Xgimps.

      Back to Gamespot so you can damage control Crackdown 3’s delay.

    • SJ777

      I bet youre hyped about Mark Cerny being a powerful lvl 3 warlock. He woke up the other morning and magically decided the Ps4 Pro had went from 4.2TF to “8.4TF”. And youre here saying its true. Nah, that isnt damage control. Its f***in HILARIOUS damage control!

    • Mr Xrat

      You still melting down over your precious upgrade not being able to utilize something an electronic box released a year earlier can? Go be mad about something more pressing like MS messing up their precious lineup with yet another delay.

    • SJ777

      Nah, Im cool. Looking forward to my current game library jumping to the highest quality performance available on a console. Bought a brand new 55″ 4K HDR/Dolby Vision gaming tv and a nice BOHM Soundbar recently, decided not to waste any money on a sub-par Ps4 Slo and go with the highest quality 4K gaming experience. Got Madden 18, Forza 7, and Star Wars Battlefront 2 pre-ordered, life is great.

    • Mr Xrat

      “the highest quality performance available on a console.”

      Still stonkingly low then, even without all the compromises they had to make to even get it around a semi-reasonable price. Still, Xgimps have always had very low standards.

    • SJ777

      Compromises like how the Ps4 Pro doesnt even have a 4K Bluray drive? That simple fact there is a reason why the X is a true 4K console and the Ps4 Pro is not.

    • Mr Xrat

      “Muh movies!!!!!”

      Funny how I remember Xgimps mocking the PS3 for having blu-ray capabilities. At least that thing had games as well.

    • ReadySalted

      Well, if it isn’t DAMAGE CONTROL from Mr Xrat.

    • Mr Xrat

      Well if it isn’t the appropriately named ReadySalted crying over facts.

      Back to Gamespot! You and that Toon Army loser can rev up your excuses over Crackdown 3.

    • ReadySalted

      Which facts am I “crying over”?
      It’s funny how you follow Xbox news articles across many games sites. You’ve even familiarised yourself with the Xbox fanboys. Obsessive Mr Xboxrat.

    • Mark

      Wow, Cliff really said that?! Ahaha. Dam

    • Eddie Battikha

      In each article, we speak directly to development teams and get a breakdown of how their brand new releases will be putting the extra horsepower of PS4 Pro to use and what improvements players can expect to see.

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      Hey MrXrat OR RevolverOcelot OR Quimicomortal just accept that PS4Protato failed, take the L and go to sleep with your 4.2tflop slow junk hahaha

    • care package

      gaysian!

    • Wei Feng

      well spotted

    • Jeff J Bishop
    • Wei Feng

      Keep damage controlling the compromised 4k checkerboard Monster

    • chrisday85

      The PS4 was a compromised console. Bloodborne runs horribly, Nioh has to go down considerably before hitting 60fps, and there are numerous issues holding down a level of cpu innovation even to last gen’s consoles in terms of innovation and gameplay, and this is largely due to the fact that the new CPUs are arguably equal in power.

      We are playing last gen games with a prettier make up.

      Everyone should be upset about that. When the next true gen comes out, you will see worlds you can do more things with. The cloth covering objects in Destiny 1 and 2 and prey will be moveable, instead of being oddly flapped over and nothing happens when you smack it. Boxes will be movable, all of them, instead of décor that does nothing. Objects in VR will be moveable, you will be able to break doors, and have pieces usable come off, you will be able to see bottles lined up, and play with them all, instead of them not moving in current games, or having only a few objects in vr you can touch. The cpu gap needs to happen. It was obvious that this upgrade is about visuals, and it does indeed update visuals well. It was never intended to make the cpu in a new league, or games wouldn’t be compatible. Both PS5 and Xbox next, next, will do that (I’m being punny here from what Xbox one was originally called).

      I’m excited for a Ryzen based console, which would outperform these ones by a huge factor, likely by even 8 times or more (since the processors in the PS4 and Xbox one were called out to be a quarter the grunt of in i5 3570k, which are way less powerful as an optimized Ryzen core, and then 8 cores fully utilized would be twice as powerful as even that since core for core Ryzen is more powerful than that core and that core is only 4 cores. We are literally talking possibly even 10 times the performance on the CPU end, as the multi threading in Ryzen is insane by comparison to the 3570k)

      Until then, I think it’s safe to do some degree of insulting of this lost gen of consoles. I think when next gen comes we will be thinking about this as the lost decade of gaming, like the lost decade of income raising during the 2000’s.

      I will add here I do own a PS4 pro and a PS4 and an Xbox one and an Xbox one s.

      I prefer the exclusives on the PS4, but I still like my Xbox one. For one, you have the 4k blu ray actually installed in the Xbox one s, not so in the PS4 Pro. For two, the interface of Xbox is just nice. I can sit down, turn my console on, easily go through games, and play. I rarely play PC’s due to how annoying it can be to get up, turn on, get the mouse and keyboard, set it up, make sure steam doesn’t disable the controller, make sure the system doesn’t have any issues, run my game, turn on the frame counter in case something starts causing dips like a background scan, and then getting back up to turn it off when I’m going to bed (I play in my bed). It’s annoying.

    • Mr Xrat
  • Wei Feng

    Xbox users asking for 30fps checkerboard games doesn’t mean the Jaguar’s holding the system back.

    right guys?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7d9d35d93eb7a0aa3140e1abf788a1e1b02e7060990d23088d4194001b3117f.gif

    What’s so funny?

    • THE4point2TFLOPweakness

      The Rat or RevolverOcelot or Quimicomortal is working overtime cause his Protato can’t do more than 1440p hahaha

    • Fweds

      Or Rhubarbforfingers Or Mr New Vegas etc etc

  • MickaelSuarez

    “When we designed the Scorpio spec, we specifically said games running at 1080p 30 on an Xbox One — what do we need to put in the box for that thing to run at 4K 30
    And that was our design goal, from the beginning. To say: same framerate, increased resolution.”
    Phil Spencer.

  • ProAssassin84

    Somebody really needs to tell Microsoftie fanboys the Console War is over and from launch the PS4 has embarrassed Microsoft to the point of panick mode by Microsoft. God of War, Days Gone, Lost Legacy, GT Sport, Matterfall, Last of Us 2, and more releases Xbots and Microsoft will have to be on suicide watch.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Spider-Man is gonna sell crazy Early 2018.

    • kentray1985

      Dude you are a fan boy and the only one you’re embarrassing is yourself. Nothing you say will take a way the fact that Xbox one X will run games alot better than Ps4pro. When is that fact going to strike into that meat head of yours?

    • Wei Feng

      We do agreed its the best checkerboarder 30fps console when finally launched.

      Just not this uncompromised 4K monster shown at E3 as it’s list of compromised games grows daily with the handy true 4K term to sort of cover it up a bit.

    • ProAssassin84

      What games?

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      How about the best version of RdR2. How about the best game of the generation.
      Remember xbots play the same games as the mass ps4 crowd.
      That’s why every single ps4 exclusive this year has been outsold by a game that is also available on the xb1.

      What games are ps4 owners playing? 95 percent of the time a game that is also on the xb1.

      I just don’t get the point of saying no games.

    • Wei Feng

      And they still think they can win the generation.

      Generation was lost back in 2013 when Microsoft wanted it’s users to watch TV on a VHS media box as they waved goodbye to gaming at some forced Kinect.

    • kentray1985

      I and millions of other gamers enjoyed the kinect so how does that add up to us not wanting it?

    • Mr Xrat

      We all know what mentally ill Xgimps forced themselves to like, I’m afraid.

      Funny how it’s been completely deceased since 2013 to the point they removed Snap.

    • Fweds

      Tell me how was Sony PS Move was supported all those years ? Oh yer that’s right it wasn’t.

      Now we have the Sony VR headset, ridiculously overpriced junk that needs 2 FEET MORE space than the ‘original’ Kinect and Sony has already more or less dumped its support already.

      Then comes the underpowered and Under featured PS Protato which Sony were pushing as 4k on release but have now dropped that badge since it struggles to get past 1080p most of the time.

    • kentray1985

      Newsflash you are the gimp. A pretty dumb one too!

    • greatnessIsaLIE

      I’ll take that God of war!
      That’s going to be a sweet game.
      If only it was on pc or Scorpio then it could see its full potential.
      Still will be a quality game. I hope.

    • chrisday85

      Ok, while Sony does have a good list of exclusives, you listed a handful and really should have provided a full list for a couple reasons. The first point is taste, and the second point is some of them are just over rated games, even when considering taste. This is because the ones you did list, if you don’t like the genre, you won’t like the game for a lot of those, and one of them is literally the most over rated game of all time in it’s own genre, and I really don’t care how many hordes of you fan boys try to defend it. I have managed to come back to games I initially was frustrated with and now love them. Namely Bloodborne and the souls games. I even bought a PS3 again to have demon’s souls. I’m saying this to preface where I’m going, and that I give games every chance and I’m a gamer, I don’t go by allegiance. If a game is given a 10, from my point of view, this game should be enjoyable regardless of the genre. What I mean is: If you are a gamer, it should be literally impossible, regardless of your play style, to dislike a 10 game.

      Do you see where I’m going?

      TLOU was not a game I liked to any large degree, and I have liked games that played similar. That means I do like the style of the game, and yet I couldn’t bring myself to sit down and play even more than an hour of this game at a time before it started feeling tedious, precisely because of pacing as well, and this happened each time I sat down to play it. I would get bored, or think about how the intervals and navigating the areas was bland in between the combat play. When I did the combat I noticed it really was not that great, it was something I’ve done before, and an 8 at best, combine the bland world navigation, and it was not something I could play for long. I played the entire resident evil series, which is somewhat similar in minor ways in terms of pacing between combat, but should be inferior in literally every way, but something about TLOU was just not allowing me to enjoy it in the intervals it attempted to engage me. The fact that I would give this game a 7, at best, means the over hyped 10, was way, way, way, over rated and this tends to be the case for a lot of Sony exclusives. God of war I have never finished a single one of those games, yet I have finished Devil May Cry and the Legacy of Kain series, as well as Darksiders. God of war never pulled me in. God of War is also not a great exclusive, and it isn’t great for it’s genre. I relate it to Darksiders. Fairly good, but not amazing.

      Your list could equally is easily be responded to by people who like some Xbox one exclusives. Gears 3 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had, Gears 4 was also good but to me was a little inferior, still a good game. The Halo franchise is popular for a reason, though I don’t like it anymore, I put it in the same field as your God of war series (not in genre, but in that I like other titles in each of their individual genres more than either of these)

      Though as an aside to this, my favorite PS games are definitely: Dragon’s Crown, FFXIV, Bloodborne, Resistance, Killzone, Infamous, etc. However, I will also say we have seen less exclusives this gen than other ones, despite Sony grabbing some great ones lately, you have to realize Final Fantasy used to be a Sony exclusive. Now it’s not. Kingdom hearts used to be. Now it’s not. Demon’s souls was, and now Dark souls 1 through 3 came to Xbox one, while Bloodborne didn’t, you can see where I’m going with this, especially when you compare just how many exclusives PS2 had. It is mind boggling how many PS2 had. I would bet it is well into the hundreds including all the JRPG’s. If you compare Xbox to Xbox 360, Sony lost easily half or more of their exclusive support. If you compare PS3 to PS4 they are losing even more, and many of their first party funded developers shut down in the last few years, though apparently you missed that, and many more restructured and did multi releases for the first time (Final Fantasy). More and more developers don’t like doing the exclusive games, and Sony as well as Microsoft cannot afford to pay these people off to any large degree. First party studios can only have so much revenue as well if they decide to do it internally, so there is a cap there too. Sony doesn’t have the money to produce as many first party games as third party developers, and third party developers won’t want to produce limited release games because they want maximum exposure and sales. The market here really shows we are moving toward very few exclusives other than limited first party. To make this fan boy argument about PS4 regarding exclusives as if it is winning due to that is absurd. There is clearly one major reason, and a few small ones. PS4 released at the same price point, with superior hardware, or less, if you include when the Kinect was included. HARDWARE was definitely the determining factor here, compared to the next closest same priced competitor. I am wording this very particularly, because most people then say “oh powerful consoles fail” only expensive ones that aren’t that much more powerful, offer no real use of said power, and yet are still more expensive than the competitor. It was not Sony exclusives that sold it that first dry year. Sony’s exclusive list sucked year one, and everyone knows it. Tons of games were delayed.

      Yet it sold amazing. It had nothing to do with your list above. It was “do I want my game 900p, or 1080p.” That has kept Sony ahead.

      And while Scorpio won’t change this, it’s for the same reason I bought my wife a base model PS4, and the same reason I said what I said above:

      Now we have 4 consoles, in radically different price ranges, $200 on sale for a base model PS4 is much more attractive than $399 for PS4 Pro or $499 for Xbox one X, and, if I wanted an Xbox One S, I would still need to consider that at $200 on sale itself, it will still run most games at a lower resolution, in a way that really matters. 900p vs 1080p is much more visible than the transition to 4k. Again, exclusives weren’t really what I considered, well, other than wanting to play FFXIV and Bloodborne, but that goes the other way as well, with me wanting to play Gears 4 and other Xbox games. Nearly every game that is multiplatform I want for PS4, unless it is one of the ones that for some reason ran worse, and that’s why I went PS4 before Xbox one S, though I do now own both.

  • marc Berry

    The facts as they are now.
    Native 4k/60fps racing games
    PS4 0
    PS4 Pro 0
    XB1 0
    XB1X 1

    Native 4k/30fps racing games
    PS4 0
    PS4 Pro 0
    XB1 0
    XB1X 1

    Native 4k/60fps first person games
    PS4 0
    PS4 Pro 0
    XB1 0
    XB1X 0

    Native 4k/60 3rd person games
    PS4 0
    PS4 Pro 0
    XB1 0
    XB1X 1

    Native 4k/30 3rd person games
    PS4 0
    PS4 Pro 0
    XB1 0
    XB1X 3

    You can add more but this is right of the top of my head.
    By the way this is only SDKs at 70%-80%. So it’s going to just get better from here.

    https://mspoweruser.com/heres-a-list-of-games-that-run-at-4k-on-xbox-one-x/

    • Mr Xrat

      Wow look at those huge numbers for da beest. You know it’s sad when Xgimp blogs are struggling.

      Wipeout is 4K/60 on the Pro by the way.

    • SJ777

      Wipeout lol.

      That sounds appropriate for the Ps4 Slo.

    • Mr Xrat

      Sounds appropriate for the entire worthless Xbox brand looking at this month’s NPD.

  • Mr Xrat

    You’ve had a bad week, retarded woodpecker. Pipe down.

  • kentray1985

    You guys still are trying to bash Xbox one X when its running more games with native 4k resolutions than the Ps4pro. Infact most of the pros games are using checkerboard rendering which you guys now act as if its a bad thing. Stop contradicting yourselves and being huge hypocrites in the process. I can only assume you guys are huge Sony fan drones who are very salty at this point!

    • Wei Feng

      You mean true 4K?

      Forza 7 is Native 4k with medium setting using cardboard 2d crowds and pre-baking.
      The rest are checkerboarding true 4k.
      Now just waiting for when they will decide the best time to cancel the epic fail crackdown 3.

    • kentray1985

      You are a epic idiot thats full of lies. You havnt played Forza 7 nor Crackdown 3 but you judging them. Thats how yall Sony fan boys do. Most Ps4pro games use checkerboard rendering but you’re here hating on Xbox Only in the Playstation community you find retards like you smh

    • Fweds

      Notice “Mrxrat” who is the same person you are talking to mentions 2d crowds ?which is odd because he knows full Well that is what you can already see in GT Sport if you stop the videos but not in Forza 7.

    • kentray1985

      Exactly and Forza 7 hands down looks visually better than GT Sport. Im glad we have more gamers with a thinking brain that can see past their bs!

    • kentray1985

      Im waiting on you to stop trolling and get a life but I know thats almost impossible for your kind!

    • aawells07

      Gotta ignore these guys man. They’ll drive you nuts as there is no possible way of changing their minds. They do and say these things with the sole reason to piss people off and get a rise out of you. Best to not give them any chance. Just block them and you don’t ever have to see what they say. You’re seriously wasting your time. Most of them are the same person with different accounts and it’ll look like there is a bunch of them piling up on you.

    • kentray1985

      I feel you but by staying quiet these negative voices are the only thing there. You respond with facts and that lets the community and new comers how stupid these trolls are. I guarantee you most of these guys are getting paid to do this.

    • aawells07

      I used to do what you’re doing but realized its honestly a losing battle as they’re here to debate with anyone but only to pi** people off.

    • kentray1985

      Undersrandible wh8ch is why I rarely speak or debate on social media. These ppl either have no life or they getting paid fo do it. Its a shame that new comers are being lead by ignorant people. Its sad that good games are getting destroyed by these trolls!

  • Wei Feng

    Forza is medium setting pre-baked and soft on hardware.

    But racers that push the actually push hardware like F1 2018 and project cars 2 are checkerboarders.

    • chrisday85

      http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57981/forza-7-hits-native-4k-60fps-xbox-one-70-gpu/index.html

      Or it was Forza at Ultra settings, you know, the actual facts. I’m no Xbox fan boy, but you’re out of your mind. You need to quit it.

    • chrisday85

      Also, you fail to realize optimization is a big deal, and first party games tend to do this while your other listed titles likely cannot handle what you’re saying as they aren’t optimized. It is not that Forza is a bad graphics game or low demanding game, otherwise modern video cards would not be struggling. I’m not saying that the Xbox one X has a powerful CPU, and I’m not saying there won’t be 30fps games, there will. However, you are being very misleading, you’re being very rude, and you are belittling people here as if they are ignorant when they are not.

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-scorpio-is-console-hardware-pushed-to-a-new-level

      “Out of interest, we tested Forza 6 Apex with similar settings at 4K on GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080. Frames were dropped on GTX 1060 (and a lot of them when wet weather conditions kicked in), while GTX 1070 held firm with only the most intense wet weather conditions causing performance dips. Only GTX 1080 held completely solid in all test cases. It’s only one data point, and the extent to which the code is comparable at all is debatable, but it certainly doesn’t harm Scorpio’s credentials: Forza 6 Apex received plenty of praise for the quality of its PC port.”


 

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