In Theory: Can Sony Make System Level PS4 Pro Additions So That Users Can Choose Between Image Quality And Frame Rate?

And no, we are not talking about the boost mode.

Posted By | On 25th, May. 2017 Under Article, Graphics Analysis


One of the hallmarks of PC gaming is flexibility: the ability to scale, mix and match experiences to best meet your expectations. Modern game engines are often built with scalability in mind—settings sliders can let you adjust draw distance, mesh quality, even the number of trees in your vicinity, with fine-grained precision. But, perhaps most importantly, in 9/10 cases, PC games allow you to make that most basic of tradeoffs: resolution for framerate. We’re not here to beat the old 30 FPS versus 60 FPS horse.

Yes, you can tell the difference, and yes it does have a palpable impact on playability, depending on what you’re playing and how you’re playing it. I game primarily on an overclocked, 83 Hz monitor. And yes, that’s luxuriantly smooth in games like Doom, and Prey. But I am just as content to run Mass Effect: Andromeda, heavily ENB-fied Skyrim, and the like at lower framerates. (Also, as a long-time fan, I actually loved Andromeda. *flies away*).

 

The relative merits of 30 FPS and 60 FPS gaming are for you to decide on. What matters is that PC puts that decision in your hands. In the case of the original eighth-gen consoles, locked resolution and framerates were, in a sense, a boon. With a paltry amount of processing power, the PS4 and Xbox One tended to become CPU-bound well before GPU constraints were hit—higher framerates were often just not possible, however graphically intensive the title was. Alien: Isolation is a good example of this: the 750 Ti, a regular stand-in for the PS4’s GPU, delivers a locked 60-FPS update when paired with middle-of-the-road Core i processor.

The PS4, however, only manages to deliver a more-or-less stable 30 FPS update, with dips below. Moreover, as the years rolled by, GPU constraints have become increasingly evident, with sub-native and dynamic resolutions becoming the norm for AAA titles. The midcycle refreshes—Scorpio and the PS4 Pro—are targeted squarely at owners of 4K displays. However, 4K is still a few years away from mainstream adoption. There is a massive potential market of console gamers on 1080p displays who are currently getting a rather sub-par experience on the PS4 and Xbox One.

It’s debatable as to whether or not the PS4 Pro serves up an adequate 4K experience. Coming from the PC space, I am dissatisfied with the 4K performance of hardware that’s twice as fast as the Pro. And while the Scorpio promises better, we are still yet to see gameplay footage. Real potential—the people Sony at least seems to pretend don’t exist—lies with the aforementioned owners of 1080p TVs. At a firmware level, Sony doesn’t expose the Pro’s complete hardware to unpatched games. Rather, “boost mode,” as it stands, just allows games to make use of the slightly higher GPU and CPU clocks, delivering a slightly more consistent framerate at best. Mark Cerny’s reasoning, that this is to “ensure compatibility,” is unconvincing, to say the least.

Most multiplatforms today are developed with PC as the lead platform. Even in the case of exclusives, actual development takes place on PC machines (obviously). Existing multiplats today run on a mindbogglingly wide assortment of PCs—literally 100s of possible hardware configurations. There is really no reason as to why games can’t make use of the Pro’s additional resources—PC titles don’t have trouble utilizing the additional horsepower if you swap in a more powerful graphics card. Moreover, ensuring that all existing titles run and look tangibly better, is one of Microsoft’s promises for the Scorpio.

The way things stand right now, Sony seems to be shrugging the responsibility off to developers: Only a handful of older titles have received Pro patches. Several games offer users the option to downsample from a higher resolution for better AA. A handful of third party titles, such as Final Fantasy 15, Shadow of Mordor, The Surge and Nioh actually offer high-performance or high-visual quality modes at 1080p, giving Pro owners justifiable bang for their buck. But a few, such as Prey, (which by all rights should hit 1080p/60 on the Pro), don’t even offer downsampling.

This leads us to a scenario where your new, expense box, that’s both bulkier and pulls more power than its predecessor, ends up running most games…exactly the same as before or with the bare minimal upgrade. This is a patently ridiculous state of affairs. The only logical explanation we can think of for this is that Sony’s dug itself so far down the “this isn’t a new console” rabbit-hole that it really doesn’t want to give Pro owners a better experience. Fobbing Pro support off to developers is a good way to ensure that it’s never ideal—time’s money and, considering the Pro’s rather tepid adoption rate, not every developer would be bothered to put in the extra couple man-hours to enable decent Pro support. What can be done to rectify this? We feel that a bit of out-of-the-box thinking is necessary.

For starters, Sony needs to implement an actual boost mode. All 36 CUs need to be exposed to a given game’s code.  Games should, at the very least, be given access to the system’s entire resource pool. How effectively that’s utilized is secondary. Secondly, output resolution should be toggleable. At the very least, 4K output mode should be an option in system settings, irrespective of the display actual resolution. This would function much like downsampling in Windows, and ensure that players have access to a high-resolution option, irrespective of their display. Secondly, developers themselves would do well to approach the Pro in much the same way as they’d approach a midrange PC.

How does that work? Settings! PC users have been able to toggle visual settings for, well, forever. A handful of console titles, such as Project CARS, The Division and The Surge actually give users a degree of control over the console version’s visual makeup. This, in addition to performance/visual presets as seen in Final Fantasy 15 and Nioh, would put power in the hands of Pro owners. Those leaked Pro whitepapers from ages ago indicate that Sony has a say in terms of setting the guidelines developers adhere to. Instead of laying out constraints on what developers can do with the Pro, why not require the inclusion of performance and visual presets for Pro games at 1080p?

At the end of the day, getting a better 1080p experience on the PS4 Pro requires effort from both developers and Sony. While attempts so far have largely been half-hearted, the impending arrival of the Xbox Scorpio, which promises an enhanced experience on all existing titles, may spur Sony to action.


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  • Starman

    The answer is “absolutely NOT !” Why ? ………because it’s trash .

    • Guest

      Just like the Scorpio, trash of the shelf parts. Btw, the Pro is more Vega than the Scorpio is. And the big command processor that x bots were all salivating over is bullsh it too https://twitter.com/digitalfoundry/status/850435047429738497. Just more MS lies and hype the Scorpio will barely be better than the Pro.

  • Badboy, Inc.

    Wrong, there are currently 50 games that offer native 4K support, 16+ of which are AAA developers games. The Division, Last Of Us, Fifa 17, MLB The Show 17, Assassins Creed Ezio Collection, Bulletstorm: Full Clip, Darksiders: Warmastered, Here They Lie, Kingdom Hearts, King Of Fighters XIV, Middle Earth, NBA 2K17, Pro Evolution Soccer, Skyrim, The Elder Scrolls Online, War Thunder.

    As per the first post, it is not using off the shelf parts. Everything is customized, using some features from Vega and beyond in the GPU. There are no 720p games on the Pro, at all. Inferior multiplats? Not to Xbox or Switch. Whos games are lucky to hit 900p most of the time. Even at that resolution, framerates tend to be less than that of its PS4 brethren.

    As far as mods, I will give you that. Sony consoles do see some, just not those that use external user created assets. Which is a bit irritating, but not a big issue. PSVR is the highest selling VR unit on the market, Im not sure what you think they lied to you about. It offers affordable VR and is trying to create true games based around it, like Farpoint. Im not sold on any VR yet, until we start seeing games that are every bit as good as the non-VR titles we play. Right now, most games on every VR manufacturers headset are just tech demos. Until that changes, I wont buy in.

    Its amazing to me how some PC and Xbox owners like to make things up in order to further their imaginary cause. Do you think that Microsoft cares about your loyalty? No. They care about your money. Every corporation does. You, me and the rest of the world are a number to them and everything they do is based on syphoning every cent out of your bank account they can. Its why Ill never understand blatant fanboyism, to the point where you just flat out lie to get your own imaginary way. To justify the money you spent on your hobby? Or maybe keep up with the Joneses. Whatever the reason, its hilarious how much collective time you guys waste trying to downplay anything that isnt your choice.

    And, by the way… before you start pointing fingers and calling me a fanboy, Ive owned almost every console ever made from almost every manufacturer and will be one of the first on the list for Scorpio. I play games, not systems. I just love new tech and to see how far games can be pushed by console hardware.

    God bless you, my friend. Enjoy what you enjoy, but dont put others down for their choices.

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      Sorry guy, true 4k games are native 4k resolution with PC textures and assets. Protato has none.

      Nioh is dynamic Rez as low as 720p to maintain 60fps on protato…go read digital foundry.

      The rest I won’t read cause you are so misguided.

    • Jp mccann

      4k is still years away from becoming the standard. Sony developed the pro prematurely to speed up the sales of their 4k tvs. Microsoft dont make 4k tvs so why did they develop a 4k console years before they are actually needed or wanted? The idiots copied sony.In fact the release of scorpio will probably benifit sony as much as microsoft as this will also boost their 4k tv sales. And in a few years when 4k does become standard and their is an actual market for 4k consoles sony will release the ps5 and once again wipe the floor with xbox. I mean you xbox fanboys laugh at sony for releasing a console that won’t run every game in native 4k at a time when hardly anyone has a 4k tv. Microsoft released a 900p console when everyone owned a 1080 display. Now that’s funny hahaha.

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      BwahahahahahHahahah

    • Jp mccann

      Good come back.

    • Starman

      You said nothing but jibberish , is why he laughed ..Sony told you dummies it isn’t true 4k but you’re out here trying to prove otherwise ..

    • Jp mccann

      I’m sorry but I don’t understand what you mean. Do you think I’m trying to say the pro is true 4k? I’m actually not, not even close. What I’m saying is sony developed the pro to speed up sales of their 4k tvs. Is that jibberish? Can you really not understand why they would release a console like pro that isn’t ” true 4k ” years ahead of when a “true 4k ” console is actually necessary in order to achieve this? Sony jumped the gun with the pro then microsoft found out and jumped in after. But it makes sense for sony. Sony can release a console that won’t sell particularly well in order to sell tvs because they don’t need to increase console sales. But microsoft do, badly. Ps4 sales dwarf xbox one sales 2 to 1, they need scorpio to be a success but at the end of the day the Nintendo switch will outsell both pro and scorpio together. Sony know this but do microsoft? I honestly don’t think they do. And as I said when 4k tvs and consoles will be mainstream in a couple of years the ps5 will be ready to launch just like they planned. If anyone at Microsoft had any brains they would have realized why sony were releasing the pro early and instead of copying them they could have released a console that could garuntee 1080 60 gameplay. That would have sold like hot cakes and they would have made up some ground. Not a brain between them haha bye bye xbox brand.

    • Guest

      Yet MS is lying to you and trying to make you think that Scorpio will be native 4k on all games when it wont be. What a pack of suckers!

    • Riggybro

      Sorry dude but true 4K games are on a true 4K console.

      Come back in 5-6 months when you actually have a 4K console that exists in reality and not in your imagination.

    • C. Hoffer

      4k is 4k. 1080p is 1080p.

      PC users on these forums cry for ‘true’ 4k when most users are still stuck on <1080p as a standard yet they ignore the fact that they spent years locked out of console exclusives but consoles could play all PC games.

      Xbox users only talk about the upcoming consoles as '4k' saviour but ignore the only consoles they have access to for the last 3.5 years was a 720p one.

      Sony users like their PS4. Best selling, Wide Variety of games and vast majority were at 1080p. The Pro is underutilized and their fans know it. Is it Sony's issue? Some, but most lies with the game developers not updated game engines. Worst things that can be said is that the Pro is marketed as a better choice for 4k TV's. That's not a bad thing, but it does create a demand for true 4k resolution.

      As for 4k itself – the upcoming Scorpio will not do it any better than a PC and all PC's are garbage. We are at a point were resolution isn't the issue, image density is. A 4k sun at 60fps is still just a sun. A 4k live interactive jungle at 60fps with unlimited viewing distance (as per human eye) is much different.

    • Eddie Battikha

      Rookie Blue, I got a Pro and a LGB6. Nba 2k17 and FIFA 17 are 4k Native with HDR and look Beyond Awesome.

    • Mr Xrat

      “True 4K” does not exist and even if it did, the Shitpio will have none either, and those awful 360 textures on FH3 don’t count.

    • Guest

      Well then prepare to be disappointed kid as Scorpio wont be native 4k in a lot of games either. And you’re only gonna get some games with higher texture res assets. Oh are these idiots about to be let down.

    • Eddie Battikha

      It’s Amazing how many Xbots Masterrace people say things without knowing anything, and Make themselves look even more idiotic . I have a PS4 Pro running on a LGB6, NBA 2K17 and FIFA 17 in Native 4k and HDR looking so damn good.

    • Smart guy

      So did I but returned the console it’s not native doesn’t mean it doesn’t look good but there’s just something much better coming out that will run native. U can say xbots/idiots all u want but the only ones fooled are ppl like you 🙂

    • Eddie Battikha

      How am I fooled? When I got the Pro I knew exactly what I was buying it looks good on my LGB6 , I already had future 20 future PS4 games paid off at Gamespot, I get to enjoy them in higher resolution and HDR in most of them. The last of us 2, Death Stranding and Sucker Punches new ip are the 3 final exclusives for PS4 next year and then PS5 is 100% launching Fall 2018 and I’ll gladly trade in my PS4 Pro, have fun with ur Mid Gen Scorpio while Next Gen PS5 come out the next year.

    • Smart guy

      Ok kid here’s a fact: ps5 is not coming out next year :). But it is funny on how all you got out of my comment was that I called someone like you for your choice of words a fool when I clearly said its not that’s it didn’t look good it’s just not native!!!! Lol but hey nothing wrong with dreaming of a ps5. It’ll happen sure, but not next year 😀

    • Guest

      Wait, you’re calling him a kid, as if you’re a grown adult? That’s even worst to know that you are a grown a$$ man acting like this. Like a straight child. And Justin Beiber? Are just some little teenage loser punk, aren’t ya?

    • Guest

      Except the Scorpio isn’t going to be native 4k on most games, you’re an idiot if you think so. Than again most fanboys are. You’re the only one who’s fooled here. Idiot!

    • Smart guy

      Weren’t smart enough to say what you wanted in one comment? Lol why so salty?? Looks like another alt! If you’ve actually read a lot of research you’d notice that lots of devs are acknowledging the Scorpio power and will utilize it. And this will continue as the year goes by. It’s not more powerful by a little, it’s by a lot. But little girl go ahead and say what you want. You definitely like bait and that wasn’t even my goal lol :))

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      in that case the x1 owners were fooled even worse!

      but they have waited all this months, why not another four more fo their next machine?

    • Smart guy

      Lol why wait?? Because it’ll be the best thing out for a good while the earliest answer to the Scorpio will come in 2019 at the earliest. No one going for Microsoft is foolish. Doing just fine with much more to come 🙂 the protato owners on the other hand got screwed. I know because I had one and wasn’t worth it. And literally returned it one day two. The Scorpio and my LG OLED 4K tv though will be perfect

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      “Why wait?” Thats the key phrase!

      what exclusives has M$ given to the brick owners? lol why wait? cause you HAVE TO!

      and while the “potato owners” have above 1080p res for months now, the brick owners have to wait or scorpio…WITHOUT EXCLUSIVES or THE BEST GAMES THIS YEAR! LOL Why wait? cause you dont have an option! At least the ps4 owners have and will continue to have the best exclusives while they “wait” for ps5! Unlike the sad xbrick owners! LOL

      Hows your OLED doing with those 720p 360 games? Perfect right?

      LMAO!

    • Smart guy

      Lol not even close kiddo lots is coming and all the best games are on both consoles aaaaand it will look better on the Scorpio. And that’s a FACT lol devs know this and have acknowledged this and will continue to do so this is the same thing as the 360/ps3 time. 360 came out a year early but as bluray got bigger everything else did. Same this time except it’s Xbox and your nervous. It’s ok dude I was disappointed with the protato and that’s why it got returned. You have nothing to throw at me 🙂 e3 for everybody is coming soon and it’ll be great and share a lot of info. Scorpio and devs will only grow on with 4k and when sony decides to come out with a counter in 2019 at the earliest MS will do the same and with something stronger 🙂 now kid enjoy your day I’ve got a life outside of videogames but will get back to it when it’s time for the games. Later

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Lol not close enough? No, because it’s SPOT ON!

      “lots is comin”… Meaning YOU HAVE TO WAIT! LMAO Eat that kid! That I have to throw at you!

      “best games on both consoles”? When? Now? Not even close kiddo! No xbrick game this year, 3rd party of 1st party.. Well, there is basically no 1st party even, is at the level of nioh, horizon, nier, persona 5 so no, best games NOT ON XBRICK!

      OH, you meant holiday season? Lol then YOU HAVE TO WAIT AGAIN! LMAO (now that you’re down I won’t “throw” that to you, I just dropped it! Lol

      Why wait? Cause xbots have no other choice!

      LMAO

      #xbotstarvation

    • Smart guy

      Ill tell you like i told mrs Xrat i dont have as much time as you kids do to reply to the bs you kids post. Went out with the lady and got my d!ck sucked while you were sitting on your phone/laptop typing away and being useless lol anyway those games you mentioned sold less then Ghost recon wildlands kiddo by a lot so it didn’t generate all the great of a buzz regardless of how good they are lol so again the best games are on both consoles. And nothing wrong with waiting perfection takes time. That’s why sony rushed the protato to try to have an answer and failed 🙂

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Lol nice tale! To bad that’s not verifiable nor relevant!

      1st you have no exclusives to make an argument so you very stupidly tried to use sales, to bad for you that gamers play games not sales… Well in your case NOTHING! LOL and if you want sales, well, ps4 eats xbone! Lol and no xbone has more sales than uncharted 4, so eat that as well! Lol

      Again, the best games are defined by quality not sales, so ps4 has the best games, not 3rd party, and either case, xbone has none! LMAO! eat that again!

      Oh, and Horizon sales don’t include digital line Wildlans do, yet with what we know it has sold it has outsold any xbone exclusive not named halo 5, so easy that as well!

      Perfection does take time! Yet no one took longer than MS to develope this gen console and they still came with that turd the xbrick is! Overpriced, underpowered and with the lowest rated exclusives any console has had! Yet they got to fool some sheep like you!

      Why wait? CAUSE YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTION! LMAO and now I even had you admit you are waiting! So that means I nailed you on every possible way! You better Go to play with your imaginary lady cause you really suck at this! Game, set, match! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77fb182601febf384acbfe86781730cee17e9e64675c4316d84dec64d79956fd.jpg

      #StillwaitingforANYTHING

    • Starman

      Knock it off … so I guess you have a “unique” PS4 …the only one of it’s kind to do what you say it can do , dude you’re not the only owner of that crap …sorry to bust your bubble. PS4 slaves always have to make up something to make their box of choice look good.
      Spare me son..

    • Smart guy

      Yeah sorry man but 1440p/1800pnis not native 4k. It just can’t handle it and that was a big reason I returned it. But yes enjoy what you enjoy 🙂

    • Guest

      And yet when Scorpio does the same thing, you’ll defend them, pathetic!

    • Smart guy

      Lol kid you are awful at life! Just came to this page to rant. Just because mommy can’t afford to by you the semi pro you so badly want doesn’t mean the Scorpio is the same. Again you obviously don’t know what your talking about. Do some research before you start spraying words like a little girl on the rag. :))) I smell another alt ppl!!

    • C. Hoffer

      Well Said. It’s always about money. Silly users think these companies have the ‘best’ interests at heart. LOL.

  • Riggybro

    Enjoy your mobile phone CPU and 6 TF in 6 months…

    You will be on the cutting edge of technology! Believe all the marketing!!!

  • Mr Xrat

    I suppose it could do, with greater tinkering of boost mode.

    Of course, the Xgimps ITT aren’t the brightest and are in abject denial of the impact of their precious movie player.

    • Smart guy

      Hey puss boy, who can blow more money and take risks to make more?? MS ooooorrr sony…lol all the alts you have in the world won’t even be a…..:))) and btw “abject”…kid…good job on looking up words, but you will always be low class 😀

    • Mr Xrat

      The man with the ironic nickname strikes again. Shame MS can’t match your fanfic, Shitpio doesn’t have GPU features the Pro has.

      Yes, “abject.” Look it up. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/abject

    • Smart guy

      Fact #1 coming from the person who says “xgimps” and “shitpio” I’m doing much better then to you and all your alts 🙂 Fact #2 I know what abject is and compared to your usual vocabulary it’s obvious you just started looking up words to try to make yourself sound more intelligent when in reality we all know your not :)) Fact #3 everything inside the Scorpio is better then the semi pro :))) have a good night little salty girl

    • Guest

      “Semi pro”? What a moron, if you honestly think that Scorpio is going to be much better thana you’re just a moron. But then again, fanboys always are. Scorpio is going to be the same pointless sh it as Pro, only more expensive and with less exclusives, therefore more pointless when you can get a PC for the same reason and get much results. But stay stupid “Smart guy”.

    • Smart guy

      Lol look at this cheerleader how cute :)))

    • Mr Xrat

      Fact 1: it’s who you are and what it is. Get over it. Fact 2: Another embarrassing attempt to sidestep being called out over your ignorance. That’s a long word there, do you need the definition for that one? Fact 3: Fewer and worse games and a cancerous community. Have a good night, Mr Irony. 🙂

    • Smart guy

      Lol so salty!! I didn’t have time earlier to reply because I got a life outside of gamingbolt unlike you kiddo 🙂 went out with the lady and got my d!ck sucked while you were typing your worthless reply lol and that is a fact:))) later loser

    • Mr Xrat

      I’m not interested in the tranny you paid to go out with you for the night, Mr Irony. 🙂

    • Smart guy

      Lol good one :))) gonna go get sucked off again good luck with your pitiful life 🙂

    • Psionicinversion

      no it couldnt.

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    • Mr Xrat

      Fantastic counter-argument.

    • Psionicinversion

      Well if you looked at my main argument and not something posted directly to you because your an idiot you’d see why

    • Fweds

      The PS Protato is doomed, it is an underpowered flop why try and make out otherwise.
      The Xbox Scorpio is clearly the way forward

    • Guest

      And yet the Pro will outsell the Scorpio and they are both the same pointless sh it. You are the dumbest and worst fanboy seen on here yet.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      So what did you played all this years? surely not the inferior in hardware and softawre xbone…

    • justerthought

      When the name calling starts, it’s a sign of desperation in the absence of facts.

      XB Scorpio will have the limelight for 2 years, then it’s all back to normal with the PS5. Enjoy it while you can.

      You consider the XB Scorpio as the future forever, but I take a bigger view. Are you going to bin your XB Scorpio in 2 years time to buy an XB Scorpio 2, so you can match the PS5 doing native 4K 60fps on all games with perfect frame pacing and eye candy turned to the max.

      The ‘way forward’ is for the console to match the TV resolution that the mass market of gamers own. XB Scorpio arrives 4 years too late for the 1080p gen and 2 years too early for the 4K gen.

    • Fweds

      Everybody basically has a choice, stick to what you have or be prepared to update every couple of year’s, it’s no secret that this was on the cards phil Spencer talked about it long ago and I’m quite happy to update every couple of year’s.
      Pc owners pay more just for their graphic card every couple of year’s.

      The name calling point is interesting how do you explain the “Xbone” name calling ?

      The simple fact is most people will update to the new far more powerful model’s whenever they are released especially if they keep backward compatibility.

      I don’t include the PS Protato in this as that was panicked released by Sony it is underpowered, feature less and didn’t have a place in the market, I expect them to do a lot better with their next model or they will be left behind.

    • quantum

      I agree with you regarding the name calling, his comment was in reply to a guy who calls himself ‘xrat’ and says ‘xgimps’ and ‘sh1tp1o’ in almost every comment he makes.

  • Psionicinversion

    simple answer is no it couldnt, it would need to be able to modify the games files to “inject” its own settings and of course in games like Need for speed where the games physics is linked to the framerate (which is extremely bad lazy coding) it would go nuts

  • Jp mccann

    Here’s a thought for any ps4 owners who are even thinking of getting scorpio. For the price of a decent 4k tv and this “premium” console you can buy a high end gaming pc and plug it straight into your 1080 tv. With microsofts idiotic play anywhere strategy you can play superior versions of any good microsoft exclusives, ( if they ever release any) on it. With Scorpios last Gen cpu the majority of games including exclusives will like gears 4 and forza horizon 3 will still run at 30fps. That along with the ps4 you already own and it’s list of stellar exclusives your gaming needs will be more than covered. Then when the ps5 that is under development as we speak is released in say 2 years or so when 4k is becoming the standard, the prices of sets will be way cheaper and you will have a true 4k experience.
    With ps5s ryzen cpu you will be able to game at 4k 60fps across the board. Problem sorted.

    • justerthought

      Explain to me how buying a high end PC and plugging it into your 1080p TV, will have the same resolution as buying a 4K Scorpio and a 4K TV. 1080p gaming on a PC is a lower resolution and lacks HDR which is actually the most impressive benefit.

      Those first two lines of your comment are clearly flawed and just make the rest of your comment not worth reading. First impressions and all that.

    • Jp mccann

      I didn’t mention resolution I mentioned performance. Maybe you should read a comment before you reply to it. It would make you look like less of an idiot.

  • Starman

    First of all , it’s not about 4k gaming , 1080p , 60 to 120 fps with all the great txtures and HDR will do just fine ..plz STFU about 4k gaming ..been there done that , 1080p gaming is just as great..

  • Kageyama

    The Pro has the same crappy CPU and bandwidth as a base PS4, so the performance gain are meaningless anyway. The Pro was designed to play games at slightly higher res than 1080p and then upscale to 4k and that’s all there is to it.

    • justerthought

      Yes I agree and it’s a disappointing weakness because it effects frame rates and frame pacing/controller latency. But Sony had to go for the same in order to have complete parity between the two consoles, because they are part of the same gen.

      PS5 will be a new gen so backwards compatibility will not be a priority. That means they can upgrade stuff to the max without being tied to previous hardware editions.

  • Guest

    EA Access is garbage, and the only people who don’t see that is x bots. Nobody cares about 4K Blurays either. And back compat for what? To play those shittly outdated 360 games? No thank you. What did I buy a new system for? To play that old sh it? And Halo and Gears and Forza all suck.

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      Bwahahahahaha
      pony is mad
      Here is what you get twit..
      No true 4k games (some as low as 720p on the pro with no PC textures or assets), no back compat, a $500 PSVR lie, inferior multiplats, no upgrade to shader model 6 textures, no improvements on 1080p TVs, no EA access, gimped mod support, no 4k 60fps game capture, no dedicated servers, no game pass downloading service, no 4k bluray, no digital refunds….and NO MULTIPLAYER GAMES as good as Xbox’s

  • Guest

    He’s right, Scorpio don’t exist yet and does have a weaker than Smartphone CPU, and the CPU to GPU imbalance is even worst than on the Pro. And 6TF is impressive by PC standards.

    • Ocelot forgot his meds

      Bwahahahahahaha
      Go read digital foundry
      Cry more

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      go play an xbrick exclusiv… oh right! no more of those medicore ones!

      Keep crying!

      #xbotstarvation

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    I agree! something should be standarized in the pro mode, not just, em “lets see what you can do with it!”

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Except all 3rd party games that are superior to the xbrick mediocre exclusives and the fact that ps4 exclusives faaaar superior than the xbrick semi exclusives!

    Yeah! this is the time where you fake a laugh/ insult/ try do deflect te subject of the xbric not having exclusives anymore!

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    LOL all those xbots sying people got fooled with PS4 pro because another system will have more power with less games, higher price and a year later!

    Yet they got owned for four years with their inferior in software and hardware system that came out latter than ps4 and even more expensive!!!!

    LMAO!

    • justerthought

      Exactly. XB Scorpio arrives 4 years too late for the 1080p gen and too early for the 4K gen. Mass adoption of 4K will happen in 3 years time, just in time for the superior PS5. Who is going to dump their XB Scorpio after 2 years use in order to buy a XB Scorpio 2 to match the PS5. Nobody.

      MS are not in sync with the TV resolution market and that is the biggest reason why they have slipped behind in such a dramatic fashion and are struggling to regain ground. Sony manufacture TV’s so it’s a clear variable governing their overall strategy.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      Aside that, where are the games?

      Xbone exclusives this gen have been the lowest rated of any console in the last 20 years, this year they have basically nothing and the games that have already announced are less than stellar

  • justerthought

    Developing a system level toggle switch to swap between 30fps high quality graphics and 60fps lower quality graphics is definitely possible, but it would require a lot of work and the ‘will’ to do it.

    Right now the ‘will’ a not there because the priority is to sell expensive 4K HDR TV’s. Sony want to use the games division success to help the ailing TV manufacturing side of the business. As long as a game looks good on a 4K TV and makes you want to buy one, then Sony are happy and don’t care about the frame rate.

    Most gamers are still on 1080p and perfectly happy. They just want 1080p running smooth with perfect frame pacing at 60fps or 30fps and high quality graphics with low latency. Right now we are getting games that target higher resolutions to look good in 4K that suffer from erratic frame pacing, frame stuttering and control latency. Mainly because they are ports of brute force PC games that use very little smart efficient tech.


 

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