No Man’s Sky Reviews: Can It Pull A DOOM?

Reviews being withheld does not necessarily indicate a bad game.

Posted By | On 07th, Aug. 2016 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


No Man's Sky

It’s always ominous when reviews for a game are withheld until after its release- history shows us that the game almost never turns out well, which is why reviews are deferred until after the game has had a chance to get some sales in. Look at previous titles like Assassin’s Creed Unity and Destiny, all of which turned out disappointing, and all of which had review embargoes lifting after the game had officially released.

However, every now and then, it turns out that a game with a late review embargo turns out great after all- for an example, look no further than Bethesda and id Software’s DOOM, which launched earlier this year. DOOM, too, had its reviews withheld by Bethesda’s embargoes until after the game had already officially launched- but it turned out to be a great game, a hell of a game that many would argue is the best game so far this year.

The question with No Man’s Sky, then, is, which category will it fall into? The long and short of this is, reviews being withheld for this long seems to indicate that the publishers are not fully confident in the product- or at least its ability to score well, at any rate. Excuses can be made about online functionality and the nature of the game, but unlike Destiny or The Division, where those excuses at least made some sense, here they don’t necessarily hold to scrutiny.

However, Sony have been claiming that this is not the case, and the issue seems to come down to the game’s day one patch, which apparently will be substantial enough that the game will differ greatly with the patch from the state that it is in right now- the patch is at the very least great enough that it will cause incompatibility between patched and unpatched copies of the game. Sony are claiming that this major update is the reason that No Man’s Sky cannot be reviewed pre-launch, because reviewing the game without the patch is not representative and therefore makes no sense.

The question is, is that PR spin, or is it true? And I think the answer to that, many users will probably find, does not matter. Just because Hello Games and Sony are unsure of the game’s ability to score well, doesn’t mean that No Man’s Sky will be a bad game at all- simply put, Bethesda were probably unsure of DOOM reviewing well, too, but DOOM turned out to be great regardless. The same may still turn out to be true for No Man’s Sky as well.

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  • Jay

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  • Philip Nelson

    Well if you read the update 1.03 patch notes from Hello Games you’ll see that it’s a fairly substantial patch and resolves certain things like galaxy size, balancing issues, combat mechanics and even graphical issues.

    In other words – the things that would lose it marks in a standard review. As such pre-patch NMS might be a poor game, or at least only average. Whereas a post-patch NMS is a different beast altogether.

    • Psionicinversion

      the main thing is all the crashing that would of happened.

    • d0x360

      You hope

    • J.j. Barrington

      And you don’t. Big deal.

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      Why do you care? Can you please go find your parents and slap them both hard, they failed to raise you properly.

    • d0x360

      Actually going there now to drop off their dog

      You know…if you are gonna go and make insulting jokes at least make them funny. Please.

      Do it for all of us.

      Oh and yes I do say a lot of facts without always giving citations. If YOU cared about whether they were facts you would look them up just as I do when others posy.

      Rest assured and comfy in your race car bed that when I post a fact.. Its actually a fact.

      Enjoy your day Sweetness

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      You know…if you are gonna go and make insulting jokes at least make them funny. Please.

      I wasn’t trying to be funny, you parents failed you and it seems you failed yourself. You are not at work in the middle of the day on a Monday? Do your mom and dad pay you for walking the dog? Are you sure you aren’t living in their basement?

      You have no room to talk about insulting. Anyone who disagrees with your ill-informed opinions you call a shill. This section of comments is a perfect example of that.

      Oh and yes I do say a lot of facts without always giving citations. If YOU cared about whether they were facts you would look them up just as I do when others posy.

      No this is untrue. You position your opinions as facts. You rarely even bring up specifics let alone facts.

      As a matter of fact the only reason you are giving me grief is you are trying to deflect the fact that you don’t know what you are talking about AGAIN! You don’t have specifics and you do not have facts on your side.

      when I post a fact.. Its actually a fact.

      PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH YOUR DIM-WITTED TINY NARROW MIND…

      YOU DO NOT POST FACTS. (This comment thread is proof positive of that).

      YOU DO NOT POST SPECIFICS. (This comment thread is proof positive of that).

      YOU PULL STUFF OUT OF THIN AIR AND DECLARE IT TO BE A FACT.

      Which you are doing right now by saying you post facts. YOU DO NOT. Not only are you ill-informed you are an accomplished liar.

      Do you understand this concept or is it too great for you to comprehend with your limited intellect?

    • d0x360

      You right these long replies… don’t because I’m not reading more than a couple sentences.

      Anyways…I don’t need to. Everything you said is wrong. Still sound like your 14.

      Puberty is coming I promise.

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      You are trying to insult me while simultaneously saying you can’t read. You not reading is the problem. You say a bunch of stuff, but you don’t read much so you are not informed. You can’t cite species and facts because you simply DON’T KNOW. Not knowing something doesn’t seem to get you to shut your pie hole though.

      You are playing tic-tac-toe while I am playing chess. Quite frankly you are not qualified to comment on my posts. I have forgotten more about the game industry then you will ever know.

      You have no job, and I am betting your parents basement is your bedroom.

      I win at life. 🙂 I am sure we will meet again, and you will have comments that reflect your limited near non-existent intellect.

      Good luck at the unemployment office. Stop being a drain on your parents, haven’t you done enough already to disappoint them?

    • d0x360

      I’m not reading because you aren’t worth my time.

      Get the hint cowboy

    • J.j. Barrington

      But you keep replying.

      Your arguments are ill formed and immature. They’re backed up by nothing; you have the nerve to call someone else a teen? My 11 year old nephew makes better arguments.

    • J.j. Barrington

      But you haven’t posted a fact yet.

  • J.j. Barrington

    “all of which turned out disappointing, and all of which had review embargoes lifting after the game had officially released.”

    You listed two games. TWO. Is two “all” the games for which the review embargo was lifted AFTER the game came out? I’m guessing they’re not. But since you didn’t even go into that, we should just take your word for it?

    “Look at previous titles like Assassin’s Creed Unity and Destiny, all of which turned out disappointing,”

    Can’t really speak on Unity, but Destiny seems to have been pretty popular from launch until now. The only folks disappointed were the ones that somehow got the wrong idea. Which is exactly what people are trying to do with NMS.

    “The question is, is that PR spin, or is it true? And I think the answer to that, many users will probably find, does not matter.”

    I don’t think that’s the question at all, which you would know had you bothered to do any research. Here’s a link to the patch notes detailing what all is being added. http ://www. no-mans-sky. com/2016/08/update-1-03/ I find it hard to believe you could look at all that and think it won’t substantially change how the game is experienced.

    But then, I don’t think you care. Seems like you wrote this because controversy=clicks.

    • d0x360

      Yea there is tons more than 2 and 90% of them were bad.

      Also patch notes don’t tell you a game will be better. Look at the division. The patch notes we’re great but they often didn’t fix the issues they said they did and they also introduced new issues that were even worse

    • J.j. Barrington

      First off, go back to Xbox. Why are you even here?

      Second, you say “tons more than 2” and yet you, like the author, don’t bother to list any of them. Ditto with your 90% claim.

      Patch notes don’t tell you a game will be better. Nothing does, actually, aside from playing it. But to act like the patch in question will be minor and not change anything is disingenuous, to say the least.

      Yes, patches often create new issues. That tends to happen when you introduce new data into complicated situations. But Hello Games isn’t Ubisoft, and No Man’s Sky isn’t The Division.

      Try again.

    • d0x360

      Not my job to list them. If you are so worried look it up you lazy ****. As for me…I’m a PC gamer so eat a testicle

    • J.j. Barrington

      A PC gamer who’s constantly trolling away at PlayStation articles. Good job.

    • DarthDiggler

      @jjbarrington:disqus

      Yeah he is a special brand of A-hole.

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      Not my job to list them.

      It is your job to list them if you value what little credibility you claim to have. If you don’t list them you are being just as intellectually lazy as the author and your entire premise is based on assumptions.

      If you are so worried look it up you lazy

      The fact is you haven’t looked it up. If you had you should have been able to cite a FEW examples.

      Just admit you don’t know. You don’t come off as an intellectually curious person. I have read your comments for a while now. You never really cite facts you just position your opinions as facts.

      You don’t know and you don’t care — please be honest and own up to that.

    • Tomaterrrx

      Lol PS4 fanboys forgetting this game is on PC.

    • d0x360

      Nooooo

      The PC version must remain a secret of Indiana Jones magnitude. Don’t tell anyone else

    • Tomaterrrx

      LOL 🙂

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      Yea there is tons more than 2 and 90% of them were bad.

      Yea there are so many more that you couldn’t cite ANY more examples than the author. If you can’t be bothered (like the author) and do due diligence and research this issue you shouldn’t bring it up in an article and present that info as typical in the game industry.

      If you want to call something out for being factual, find the facts don’t just declare things factual. I am not saying that you are wrong. I am saying you don’t have the data to support your claim.

      Further more you pull the 90% completely out of thin air. You are fabricating.

      Also patch notes don’t tell you a game will be better. Look at the division. The patch notes we’re great but they often didn’t fix the issues they said they did and they also introduced new issues that were even worse

      The Division had a bad patch early on that caused the UI to double up. People whined when their stuff got gimped. That is not at all out of the ordinary for a loot based game.

  • d0x360

    Reviews alone being withheld is not necessarily a bad time but generally it’s not a good one but if the same company is also abusing the dmca and trying to get clips and conversations removed from YouTube and other places before release date to stifle conversation about the game then that’s usually a pretty bad sign

    Usually not always

    Also this headlines is misleading. I thought you had found a couple reviews and now in kinda pissed i clicked so…I won’t visit the site for a week and I will turn adblock back on and not click any ads here for a month

    • J.j. Barrington

      Abusing DMCA? Now I know you’re just trolling(as if I didn’t before).

      Conversation for the game isn’t stifled. Aren’t we talking about it right now?

      Hello Games was perfectly within their rights to have videos showing the game pre-release pulled down. Not having such things spoiled is especially important in a game like this, particularly when the developer has put in a lot of effort to keep it that way.

      I can’t even say you’re one of those kids from the new generation that just NEEDS to know every little thing about a game before it releases, because I’ve seen you troll too many PlayStation-only titles. You’re just an Xbox fanboy who’s REALLY bad at justifying your trolling of the competition.

    • d0x360

      No they weren’t. Its not illegal for a store to break street date and its not illegal to post footage before that street date UNLESS you signed an NDA like I had to for For Honor.

      Get your facts right you shill.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Yes, they were. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have been able to force the guy to do anything.

    • d0x360

      No it isn’t illegal I used to be a manager at GameStop and he took it down by choice after they filed a DMCA which he won on appeal.

      You know what…forget it you are right about everything z forget facts and laws they are irrelevant because you say so.

      You win… Enjoy. When Sony comes out of one of your orifice’s tell them I said WHATS UUUUUPPPP!!!!

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      ANYONE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HOLDER CAN SUBMIT A DMCA CLAIM TO GET ANY VIDEO REMOVED OF CONTENT THAT THEY OWN.

      Please get this through your thick skull.

      The suggestion that gamers hold all the cards just because they got a game early is flat out hogwash.

      You don’t know what you are talking about YET AGAIN!

      Inform yourself you ignorant f*ck.

      Again with the SHILL BS. Do you have ANY OTHER material? LOL You are so pathetic and limited in your thinking you are 100% predictable.

    • d0x360

      Have you read the DMCA? No you haven’t. You are wrong…again.

      What he did falls under fair use plain and simple.

      Go read it I’m sure many subsections will confuse you so just ask what the words mean and I’ll help.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Which fact did you bring up? You’ve made numerous claims, none of which you have even attempted to support with facts.

      What does being a GameStop manager have to do with anything? Well, if you’re like their recent crop, that tells me you don’t actually know much about games… which explains your comments. When I worked for the company, knowledge about games and a passion for the industry were perquisites for employment; that hasn’t been the case for a while, though.

    • d0x360

      Dude give it up

    • J.j. Barrington

      So you didn’t bring any facts?

    • d0x360

      What facts do you want. Ask me some specific questions that are confusing you.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Any facts, genius. You claimed you had em, but you won’t even point ONE out.

    • d0x360

      Any facts?

      Ask me 5 specific questions. I’m in a good mood today. Go for it.

    • J.j. Barrington

      … how about just the ones you said you mentioned?

    • d0x360

      Repeat them. Just them no extra nonsense.

    • DarthDiggler

      @jjbarrington:disqus

      This @d0x360:disqus guy is the antithesis of intellectual curiosity. Total waste of time trying to talk to him. Also he admits he doesn’t read so of course he has no facts and specifics. He would have to read first.

      Given his ignorance his aversion to reading seems to have started when he was a young boy. That would explain the why he is such a dunce.

    • DarthDiggler

      @d0x360:disqus

      You are ill informed and quite frankly you are not as bright as you think you are. So please sit down and take some notes.

      No they weren’t. Its not illegal for a store to break street date

      It is not ILLEGAL to break a street date, but if a retailer breaks street dates routinely the publisher could make a case for punitive damages.

      So while you are 100% correct there is no LAW against it, that doesn’t mean people can sue you for it.

      its not illegal to post footage before that street date UNLESS you signed an NDA like I had to for For Honor.

      If a publisher does not want their game videos being published to the public they are free to make any claims they wish to get those videos pulled.

      They are the IP holders, they have all the rights to the content. NDA aside you playing a game means that you agree to the publishers license for that software. That license stipulates that the Publisher or the Developer holds all the cards when it comes to the IP and players don’t have carte blanch rights when it comes to the game.

      Prior to a game’s release it is the right and the DUTY of the IP holder to protect that IP. Which includes removing videos that were not authorized by the IP Holder.

      The fact that you call yourself a gamer and I have to explain Software Licensing 101 to you suggests that you are very clueless about gaming in general.

      Get your facts right you shill.

      You don’t have your facts straight.

      Oh and calling people shills because they are intelligent and understand software licensing only showcases HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW!

      You do not have the intellectual gravitas to actually correct people so you are limited to calling them names.

      I have seen your comments on gaming articles for a long time.

      You don’t offer any value to the conversation. You are ill informed and you don’t seem to be all that intelligent. Instead of spouting off with your pathetic claims why don’t you research the subject matter or listen to people who are obviously more informed than you.

  • Tomaterrrx

    I’m downloading day one patch as I type. Should be a blast.


 

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