Cloud Based Gaming Is Certainly The Future, Almost There Technologically – Autodesk

But it will boil down to business decison according to Games Industry Marketing Specialist at Autodesk, Wesley Adams.

Posted By | On 21st, Apr. 2014 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


Microsoft have claimed that the power of the cloud will eventually make the Xbox One more powerful. To back up those claims they even demonstrated the technology at the recent Build 2014. The demonstration can be seen above.

GamingBolt recently got in touch with Wesley Adams, who is the Games Industry Marketing Specialist at Autodesk. For those not aware about Autodesk, the firm specializes in developing tools for 3D design, engineering and entertainment software. They provide a range of software for games development like Maya, Gameware Navigation and more.

It’s often been said that the future of gaming will rest with Cloud computing with rumblings that this could be the last generation of physical consoles. We asked Wesley about his thoughts on the potential of Cloud computing at this point, especially with Microsoft’s Azure seemingly augmenting the console’s power while Sony’s PlayStation Now bringing game streaming to the PS4.

“I think that cloud-based gaming is almost certainly the future at this point,” Wesley believes.

“The tech world sort of swings back and forth between local computing and a “client” computing model, but I think we’re almost there for gaming, technologically. One thing to consider is broadband availability in certain parts of the world. It will come down to a business decision for hardware manufacturers as to how they will still capture the non-broadband market with products that require a continuously high-speed connection. I’m guessing that as this generation starts to age, even high speed mobile devices will have propagated enough to serve as hot spots for people with no landlines, ” he further stated.

Autodesk themselves are actually working on cloud service of their own which allows compute intensive processes to be completed in a few minutes instead of days along with multiple cloud services for multiple projects.

“On our side, Autodesk has already made some neat inroads to putting tools on the cloud, in web browsers on Amazon servers with the help of OTOY. We also have Autodesk 360, which you can use to store files in the cloud and share them more easily with your team. So the cloud is coming, both on the player side and the development side. I’m pretty stoked about it,” Wesley stated.

Note: This is just a snippet of our interview with Wesley Adams and we will have more in the coming days.


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  • You are flat out wrong

    “da clowd doe” – Kevin Kirby

  • Xtreme Derp

    He’s still just talking about streaming services like Playstation Now. Which I’m still skeptical about, not giving Sony a free pass here.

    • Reason Freeman

      Wrong AGAIN

    • You are flat out wrong

      RF predictably back in the same articles like a leech. Bored of Titanflop?

      Loved watching you get destroyed in that games list article on Dualshockers, by the way.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Right as usual. There’s no magical cloud claims like the type MS snake oil salesmen have been selling.

    • DarthDiggler

      @reasonfreeman:disqus

      Care to tell us why he is wrong? Or is that above your head?

    • Michael Norris

      His avatar tells me everything about him…

    • scotmacb

      Do you really think ms would claim all this stuff about the cloud unless they are on to something the funny thing is all the people saying prove it are the first to read any story about the cloud your the most interested in it lol

    • Xtreme Derp

      Yes, they would in fact play up misleading tech demos and hardware specs for PR purposes. Penello and Hyrb have already done so.

      Sony did the same bull in the PS3’s early years, now it’s MS’s turn.

    • scotmacb

      what have they done

    • scotmacb

      you got one thing right the ps3 was awful behind the times

    • DarthDiggler

      Most of Sony’s hype was before the console actually released.

      They have been much more conservative about the PS4. Not like they announced it would have 4 HDMI ports. 🙂

      MS on the other hand seems to get worse. Milo will never come to fruition (even on Kinect 2.0) and they already announced Illumiroom will never be a commercially available product.

    • DarthDiggler

      @scotmacb:disqus

      When is that Milo game coming out?

      Did you pre-order Illumiroom yet?

    • datdude

      The blind fool scotmacb waits by his computer, hoping against all reason and common sense that Microsoft will actually deliver on something, just this once. Please, the children say, please Microsoft!!! And their tears stain the carpet as the inevitable disappointment washes over them like a tsunami. Oh, dat bone. What a disaster.

    • scotmacb

      Xbox live was a hit so much so sony has been copying it ever since, everything they promised with the 360 they done for that they get my backing.Since xbox has joined the console market they changed gaming overnight.Online gaming had arrived,dlc,patches for games that needed tweaked,having a machine you could save games on without mem cards,listen to your music while playing,talk to friends,buy games online,wireless pads,watch movies online,get apps,etc i could go on but i’m gonna go and play titanfall

    • datdude

      You seriously need a proper introduction to a pc and what it has brought to gaming.

    • Michael Norris

      Psplus is a way better then them XBL,sorry dude but MS is behind.

    • scotmacb

      You are joking right have you heard the chat sound quality on psn its dreadful the very first xbox had better chat sound and xbox one has awesome studio quality compared to psn the cheap mic on x1 sounds better than astro a 40’s mic using ps4 sony is crap

    • scotmacb

      illumiroom was never announced for consoles but may be on the crap websites your getting it from Microsoft said its not cheap enough yet unlike sony vr they will just sell it anyway even if its miles away from the rift standard

    • DarthDiggler

      @scotmacb:disqus

      Wrong, neither product was ever intended for release was only intended to create hysteria from XBOX devotees. Funny how you XBONERS completely forgive this but I still hear crap from XBONERS about the lack of a 2nd HDMI port in the PS3. Funny how that works.

      You are basically making my point though. Project Morpheus will actually be a product you can hold in your hands hopefully before Holiday 2015.

      Early reports are that the tech isn’t miles away from Oculus Rift and the Oculus Rift is by no means a standard. Stop being a partisan asshat.

    • scotmacb

      The rift guys say they are still a bit away and thats with high end pc’s and putting sharper screens in all the time and reducing the lag they said its great sony are having ago but worry if they don’t make it really high spec they will put everybody off the idea of VR which would stop people investing in the rift which is on to something

    • bigevilworldwide

      Yes…Yes they would, just like how they went on about how the Xbox One was on par with the PS4 power wise KNOWING that in FACT it is not….Kinect was going to be the greatest device ever, everyone was going to want one because it’s so futuristic and works so amazingly well, only to have millions who bought it figure out they were lied to.

      This is the same company that blames users for accounts getting hacked for a year on 360 KNOWING it was FACT because you got unlimited chances to brute force the password

      This is also the same company that pays 50 million for timed DLC, thinks AA batteries are the future, makes a proprietary headset and wants to charge you 30 bucks more IF you want to use your old headset……

      It’s also the same company that announces shipped to store numbers not sold, thinking it makes the almost 3 million gap seem smaller….Everything with Microsoft is smoke and mirrors….

    • ShowanW

      Bandwith will be a known enemy to game streaming for the time being.

    • Head Blackman

      what’s the bandwidth speed requirements for game streaming?

    • DarthDiggler

      @head_blackman:disqus

      That likely depends on the game. 2D single player game probably requires a lot less to stream than Battlefield 4 multiplayer.

    • Head Blackman

      well that shouldn’t be a problem for even the most basic of connections then.

    • DarthDiggler

      @head_blackman:disqus

      If they want to play Hangman they should be able to pull it off with dial-up.

      If you want to play a robust multiplayer game I would think at least a 5MB/s connection would be in order.

    • Head Blackman

      but that’s the average connection of today. so why wouldn’t this be possible?

    • DarthDiggler

      @head_blackman:disqus

      Not saying it isn’t possible, but making features that require online connection limits your audience. So if this would be implemented for Single Player games MS is going to have a hard time dealing with the “always online” requirement. Unless they have systems locally that can adapt to not having a connection, but that would require reducing quality.

      At this point for MS it’s a damned if they do damned if they don’t. The gamer audience could see the cloud as a back door mechanism to require an always online connection.

    • Alex King

      I have Steam Streaming where I stream my games from my PC to another PC and while it works. There is some obvious draw backs. That’s just in my own network within my home though.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Whyallthegamerhate:disqus

      What are the drawbacks? Is your router optimized for this purpose on those 2 nodes?

  • GHz

    When Apple was launching the iPhone, they were not thinking about markets that couldn’t support their business model. It was the opposite.They knew that there were enough people around the world connected to high speed internet to make the iPhone a success. Apple services came with that device and the rest was history.

    Everything changes over time, and video gaming is no different. When he said we are almost there for gaming tech wise he means what was done with Titanfall on the server side. That was never done before and it opens up a flood gate of new ideas and services that can be delivered to gamers, ranging from enhancing games to whatever else they can think about.

    The other cloud gaming tech, “streaming” been around for a while now and is proven tech. Here http://www.onlive.com/ <—–remember these guys? They've been around for years. That is what Gaikai (https://www.gaikai.com/#!/about) is. They've been around for years too. They're just owned by Sony now. What sony is doing new is allowing our games to spread out across all of our devices, meaning start playing on our ps4's and go mobile in an instant if we want to. It's not the same as what Respawn has done with Titanfall. In fact what Respawn did, everyone except MS and EA, thought that they were crazy for trying because it was that new. Most in the industry thought it was impossible. But TF exist and proved that it can be done.

    • Xtreme Derp

      The market decides what products are successful, not MS. Which is why Surface, Windows 8, “Metro”, Xbox One, and Windows phones all flopped and/or had 180’s despite the same propaganda and prophesying by microsoft fanboys and marketers.

    • Alex King

      Just because MS is leading the way for cloud doesn’t mean others won’t use it. This will become a norm. Its a great Idea all around regardless which company has the best server farms.You seem so quick to dismiss a form of information sharing because it has MS attached to it. Guess what. If this works like its starting to. Everyone is going to be using it. Don’t be such a fanboy yourself.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      The thing about that is WHEN “they” join Sony is easily going to be ousted, and “they” are Google and Amazon. Sony doesn’t have the cash to compete for the future of gaming. Nvidia is already prepped up with Nvidia Grid, it’s only a matter of time when major corporations buy those servers for their gaming division.

    • Alex King

      Well there is no doubt in my mind. Azure and MS have well prepared themselves for all of this. They have been for so many years. I was just trying to open this close minded person to the real facts so that he could understand. I agree not sure Sony will be Ousted completely. They will just be behind like they have been on servers.

    • datdude

      “Behind” in servers yet “ahead” in games and gamers. Good luck with that.

    • Alex King

      I don’t own stock. So I don’t worry about it. I own both consoles and PC rig. Those that worship corporations are sad. It’s not a siding comment. It’s fact. Sony doesn’t have the same amount of servers, because they didn’t start building them till recently. That is all I was saying. It’s not like just because PS4 is successful that they can have an 8 year lead. Or endless amounts of cash.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Whyallthegamerhate:disqus

      There is a difference between worship and being informed. Also I am usually a 1 console guy to get the most bang for my buck. For what an XBONE costs I can buy 8 games or pay for PS+ for 10 years. 🙂

      I get it some of you had to buy XBONE for Titanfall, but I don’t understand that thought process at all. $500+ for 1 game really? I was more than happy waiting for TF to come to PS4 next year. LOL

    • datdude

      If you have to say you don’t worry about it, you worry about it as “worry” has nothing at all to do with the scenario.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Whyallthegamerhate:disqus

      The problem is MS may have more success with Azure as a corporate play, if that happens maybe the resources for XBONE won’t be as plentiful.

    • Alex King

      It’s all inclusive though. Probably one of the better reasons they are under the same umbrella.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Whyallthegamerhate:disqus

      All inclusive what? I haven’t met anyone in any comments that really has a good understanding of what exactly Azure is.

    • GHz

      Nvidia Grid? Isnt that a streaming service also like onlive? Have they upgraded it to do more than just that? Cloud is the general term while how it’s implemented service wise can be quite diverse.

      Where sony can’t compete is in the homegrown server farm area. You’re talking servers with global reach. I know they were dealing with Rackspace after they left Amazon, but they haven’t been vocal on that. So who knows what is going on. The latest server news they announced was turning ps3’s into servers into incorporate into their gaikai service then went silent again.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      Do you expect Sony to publish a guide on how exactly they implement their tech? LOL

      E3 is coming most gaming vets are not surprised by the utter lack of news between late March and early Summer. 🙂

    • GHz

      Nope I really dont. But when companies have something going on, you usually hear something about via news outlets because they’re people who are interested in that sort of thing. It is what it is. bring on the games!

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      Honestly it would benefit Sony to just let MS keep blabbering off about the Cloud. Obviously it’s not a feature that is making XBONEs fly off the shelf, so why would Sony comment on it?

      I think the best comment for them to have right now, is we don’t need the Cloud, we can do 1080p gaming directly on the hardware. 🙂

    • GHz

      That is definitely working for them.

    • bigevilworldwide

      The best one s how they have these morons convinced that Azure will improve anything graphically…Azure does literally NOTHING with the GPU in anything…Microsoft loves that their major base are so ignorant and know nothing about Azure, same thing with convincing them the 300,000 servers are just for Xbox when they are in fact for ALL microsoft products, Xbox will be lucky to see 50,000 of the virtual servers which I’m sure a majority of the 300,000 will be

    • DarthDiggler

      @bigevilworldwide:disqus

      A cloud setup be it Azure or anyone else’s cloud, could very well render things remotely. So while the cloud wouldn’t interact with the GPU you could still send rendered images over the cloud and be received in the game and placed properly.

    • DarthDiggler

      @jerkdanerd7:disqus

      If I know NVIDIA (and I do, our company is apart of their partner program) their solution will be over priced and likely always delayed giving their competition time to meet the market demands.

      Also NVIDIA is flat out terrible to do business with. They are kind of a joke, they run their Enterprise line of hardware like it’s a low-end GeForce GPU.

    • DarthDiggler

      @jerkdanerd7:disqus

      Sony has audience, Sony has studios, Sony has an entire infrastructure setup for their console. Apple has tried getting into the game market before, they can’t even crack into the Living Room effectively with Apple TV. Now Amazon trying to get a stake in the game. Unless they remove Amazon Prime OR Develop some truely awesome software I don’t see how the Amazon device attracts anyone other than peeps who love Amazon already. LOL

      Honestly these Android based consoles coming out seem like a complete waste of money. Just get an HDMI cable and a controller for your phone and you set.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Alex King

      Microsoft isn’t leading the way with the Cloud. Just like Virtualization they were late to the game and their solution wasn’t as compelling as competitors to which they lost marketshare to.

      Sony bought Gakai for their Cloud Capabilities. They were already up and running with a successful business so it’s not like they had to build it from the ground up.

    • Alex King

      Yeah but I think what you are not grasping is that Mircrosoft has been thinking ahead with servers for many years. They build server farms across the world. They have one of the fastest read and write speeds for larger files in the world. Bigger and faster than Amazon and Google. I am not saying Sony won’t. I am just saying as it stands MS is far more ahead of Sony in this field. Gaikai is cool, but I have in home streaming with games on Steam. There are some areas it’s not great. Latency plays a big part even on a home network. You have to drop the resolution sometimes just to get the response needed to play. That’s on a local network too. Personally I don’t think Cloud or Gaikai is going to work best till companies start using the higher rated fiberoptic. Which ISP are starting to do now.

    • DarthDiggler

      @Alex King

      You have this idea of MS being some leader in the marketplace but they have not been for years. Building datacenters is really far below what a company like MS should be doing. I don’t see Apple publishing any Press Releases bragging about all the servers they have. For good reason they actually have things to brag about and not trying to find large metrics to woo and wow your stockholders with because your marketplace dominance is fading.

      They have one of the fastest read and write speeds for larger files in the world. Bigger and faster than Amazon and Google.

      No disrespect but you have spouted this out like you have read it in a brochure but don’t even really understand what it means and how it would be useful to the marketplace. Do you have a link that I could find more information on this? Sounds cool but at face value elicits a “who cares” response from me. LOL

      Gaikai is cool, but I have in home streaming with games on Steam. There are some areas it’s not great. Latency plays a big part even on a home network.

      First of all you are assuming the performance of Steam Streams will be comparable to Sony’s PS Now. At the moment you really don’t know. I would suggest it will likely work better because most PS3 games top out at 720p so you are dealing with a smaller window of data than a game running on your PC at some crazy resolution with all the bells and whistles.

      Honestly your home network should be able to pull this off just fine, If you having oddities in your connection I would research port allocations to better optimize your router. Maybe consider a gaming router that can utilize more than 1 DMZ host and has features that make sure the consoles get precedence over other net devices.

      Personally I don’t think Cloud or Gaikai is going to work best till companies start using the higher rated fiberoptic. Which ISP are starting to do now.

      For PS3 games Gaikai should run reasonably well, I am already reading reports about the service that have been favorable. It won’t be flawless and you can expect artifacts when your connection gets busy.

      FiberChannel will help, but some of the issues with our connections here in the USA is how poorly connections are implemented at the end point. Anyone who has had a cable modem sees a mess of cables hanging off their telephone pole. What they don’t see is the mess of hubs attaching everything to the switching station and pretty much each additional connection is just yet another competitor for your neighborhoods bandwidth. One of the things I did like about DSL was you had a Direct Subscriber Line to the Switch. A couple of years ago I have had slower DSL that actually outperformed the faster cable because latency wasn’t as large on DSL.

    • Alex King

      No problem about questioning where I got that information. I actually completely understand how these comments work. Most people regurgitate opinion as fact. I do a lot of research and fortunately I own them all so I tend to be pretty up front. As far as the servers read and write speeds. Here is the link I found. This is a little dated now, but.. that’s where I gathered it from.

      http://www.ektron.com/Blogs/Udaiappa-Ramachandran/Which-Cloud-Comparing-Microsoft-Azure-and-Amazon-Web-Services/

      Streaming games from my MAIN computer on Steam.

      Yeah you are probably right about that. I have been a little lazy trying to set it up. I wondered the same thing because I know I can stream 1080p on Twitch (though 30 sec or so delay) So i don’t know why I wouldn’t be able to do it to my host computer in house. The latency is the big issue when it’s up high. I will look into that. My router should be able to handle anything. I bought it to ensure no disruptions in my gaming. 🙂 I didn’t port it though. Although I question how great the steam streaming is right now since it’s still in beta.. My hardware on both machines should not have issues encoding and I am using nvidia cards.

      All in all I think we are both pretty much on the same page. I just have a bit more of a preference. I am thinking of boosting my speed up to 100mbps now. I am currently at 50mbps. Just a bandwidth junkie I guess.

    • bigevilworldwide

      Building server farms LMAO…You realize that probably 60+% of the 300,000 servers IF not more are most likely virtual correct? And anyone with even a 3rd grade education knows that NO virtual servers are nowhere near as good.

    • Alex King

      Link? Plus I was talking about Azure in general. So..

    • GHz

      Oh so you understand marketing too? OK. Anyways, I think there is always room for new products, and the fact is MS is doing pretty well with the small market they edged out for themselves late in the game(tablets & phones)

      It’s all about what part of the market you’re aiming for.

      “Here Are 24 Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone (And Why It Does)”

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/01/21/here-are-24-countries-where-windows-phone-outsells-the-iphone-and-why-it-does/

      So successful is this campaign, Apple was forced to release their 1st ever low end iphones to compete. Everything changes because the market is not static + tech improves n gets cheaper.

      “Windows 8 sales pass the 200 million mark, still trail Windows 7’s success”

      200m back in Feb…that’s not a failure even if you WANT to believe that it is.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      Oh big whup the Windows phone outsells iPhone in a few markets, I bet BlackBerry outsells Windows Phones in a few markets too.

      The fact is MS has done well by itself by being the market leader. It is how they have been so successful co-opting public standards and making them their own. Without that dominance you can’t pull that off very effectively because generally your competition is doing it better.

      The only reason MS is “aiming” for that smaller market is because a smaller market is better than leaving the business. Don’t act like this is a strategy of strength at all, this is a strategy of let’s hope we take 3rd place over all.

    • GHz

      “The only reason MS is “aiming” for that smaller market is because a smaller market is better than leaving the business. ”

      Even if that is your assessment, is that a bad thing?

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      Your original characterization of this strategy was that MS was fully in control of it’s destiny and this is where they wanted their business to be.

      Which is completely wrong and just a position you took based on your bias of the MS brand. MS would very much love to have the business for MS Mobile that Apple has with iPhone, they were just too late to capture that lightning in a bottle.

      This isn’t my assessment, this is a recognition of the facts. No competitor wants to be in a distant 3rd or 4th place especially if you have the capabilities of Microsoft. Being in 3rd place would be a boon for BlackBerry considering the size of the company and their position in the overall marketplace.

    • GHz

      So then in your expert opinion, MS fiddling with selling affordable smart devices is a bad thing, and should have never tried it out. They should’ve never attempted because it meant that they would be starting at the bottom and that’s a bad thing because they’re MS?

      Oh..and because of my point of view, based on what I’ve read, I’m biased? Ok. whatever makes you feel mighty.

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      Look if you want to have a conversation with ME, let ME speak for myself, I can do it the best I promise you that. If you’d like to have a conversation with my imaginary doppelganger feel free to keep twisting my words, but I am not going to continue to speak to someone who can’t seem to digest simple things I am saying. 😛

      I am not saying it’s bad for MS to be in the mobile marketplace in any form. I am saying that they are not happy with peddling 3rd or 4th place (behind BlackBerry in some markets). For a company of MS’s size and capability, 3rd or 4th place isn’t a position of strength at all. <– I am repeating myself here.

      I point out your bias because of the way you are trying to position Microsoft in the mobile marketplace, which they have not done a very good job with. It's more successful than the Zune, but they are way behind competitors and I don't think they have the agility to keep up. To MS's credit the Metro UI surpassed a level of elegance that MS is usually known for.

    • GHz

      OH I get what you’re saying, and it don’t matter none because neither you or I sit at their board meetings and draw out plans to secure their future. We don’t understand the numbers like they do. We don’t know the level of execution. We don’t see all the gears moving. We carry out our busy lives and then we hear some news, experience a new product etc etc.

      I don’t work for forbes let alone write their articles. how is sharing their info, gives you the impression that I’m “positioning” MS anywhere? You made it out to be that way because you wanted to find something wrong in what i said/shared. Derp said it’s flopping, and so I provided some info in regards to that. It’s not that deep and you’re trying to make it out to be.

      You said

      “Your original characterization of this strategy was that MS was fully in control of it’s destiny and this is where they wanted their business to be.”

      That has nothing to do with me. To that I say go write a book about it. I saw where that was going and chose to ignore it (that was me being humble).

      I tried to make it simple, and the question is, after all that you said, “is it a bad thing what they are doing?” It is either a yes or no to end the discussion. We both can agree on that.

    • Gekko36

      I hate to burst anyone’s bubble here, but as of 25th April this year, Microsoft owns Nokia.

      Something tells me things are about to change with high end mobile phone models being released this year, a new point iteration of Windows Phone 8 with a unified windows core.

    • Psionicinversion

      windows phone isnt a flop, its gaining in market share with lumia 930 and 8.1 phones makes it more upto date with 1920×1080 AMOLED display 2GB ram, 32GB storage, snapdragon 800 whilst the iphone…. has a new colour. apple are least innovate company in the mobile space, waiting to see how competitors deal with newer tech and see how the market reacts before doing anything and you think adding some bs finger print reader and some M7 motion chip is innovate…. yeah break the app down and see how much of the code from nike fuel band and other fitness apps theyve ripped off to make there own app.

    • bigevilworldwide

      LOL Windows phones aren’t a flop, tell me another one…Next your going to try and tell me that Zune is an amazing device that was buried by haters and in reality it smashed the ipod….

    • Psionicinversion

      WP is doing very well in emerging markets thanks to Nokia which it putting some very good phones for there price points one the main reason WP is struggling at high end is misconception that its rubbish and its from MS also the specs couldn’t compete with high end phones like iPhone and android at the start even though it runs buttery ssmooth on single core chipset. My lumia 800 is still going strong lags a bit sometimes but that’s prolly down to it being in the washing machine 4 times more than anything else but still works perfectly. Indestructible Nokia at its best!! With 8.1 has full HD support and is caught up apparently with GDR3 it’ll have 2k display support and support the latest snapdragon upto 805 maybe 810 cant remember also with nokias pureview camera tech and cortana on the way most ppl with WP donthave anything bad to say about the only issue is the app store where most things you need are there like banking apps etc sometimes apps for things aren’t released for WP or take longer for then to bring it here.
      Its a good platform better than apples 0 innovation slating the competition till there phones support the same thing then its the best thing in the world, android is the market leader Samsung and think the new HTC one is supposed be quite good, there pushing the boundaries more whereas apple have locked ppl in and are perceived as the best whereas id rate them behind blackberry. Another 5 years the apple will start going down hill after jobs roadmap ends cook wont have a clue what do and they’ll just be playing catch up. Btw never owned a Zune or iPod they dont interest me in the slightest

    • DarthDiggler

      @psionicinversion:disqus

      MS is trading paint with BlackBerry for a very distant 3rd place.

    • Psionicinversion

      the only thing that’s saving blackberry is the billions they’ve got in the bank 2-3 years the money will run out and they wont be in the phone business anymore. I think in the next few years WP will surprise you know ita caught up spec wise

    • scotmacb

      X1 has been a big seller compared to most consoles your an idiot

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_Hm9v5ZNiwn:disqus

      I don’t see the connection between the proliferation of highspeed
      internet and the success of the iPhone, those two phenomena don’t seem to have a great deal to do with each other from where I am sitting. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if there were many early iPhone adopters that didn’t have much for an internet connection, as not having much of an internet connection would make the iPhone very attractive.

      Everything does change over time, but I don’t see any correlation between peoples desires to play cloud based games and Internet Service Provider’s desire to propagate High Speed Internet coast to coast. We definitely need more of the latter for the former to be a great success. We may have enough coverage now, but to some degree publishers would have to basically decide who and who would not be playing a game based on it’s internet requirements. Publishers may not exactly be in a position to do that yet.

      Most in the industry thought it was impossible. But TF exist and proved that it can be done.

      Show me 1 quote from anyone in the gaming business that said what Respawn wanted to accomplish with Titanfall was just flat out impossible.

      I don’t think anyone thought this was impossible (in terms of technology), there may have been some resistance to the financials in their business model.

    • GHz

      “internet and the success of the iPhone, those two phenomena don’t seem to have a great deal to do with each other from where I am sitting.”

      iphone’s success is attributed to the service it come with. You can’t enjoy that service w/o sufficient internet speed. They sold iphone at a premium price because the markets they targeted were “modern” in their internet infrastructure.

      It’ about devices that can open up a window to top notch services. That’s where the money’s @, Services, whether it’s selling you movie, music or “games as a service”. They need these boxes hooked up just like Apple needed it’s target audience to be connected as well. And connected they were, because they lived in modern cities with modern internet, wired or wireless. Also meant that most likely that these people had money to spend.

      They didn’t care about the guy who lived in a hut and didnt have internet.

      Now TF…impossible because the assumption was that the tech was not ready for primetime.

      “”Back when we started talking to Microsoft about it, everyone thought it was kind of crazy and a lot of other publishers were terrified of even doing it,” Shiring says. “I’ve heard that since our beta ended, they’ve been pounding down the doors at Microsoft because they’re realizing that it really is a real thing right now.”

      http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/10/titanfall-cloud-explained/

      People are afraid of new things and they don’t like leaving their safe zone. With new tools come new creative ways on how to get something done.

      “Respawn engineer Jon Shiring says that since the beta ended, some skeptical devs have already changed their minds about the feasibility of using Azure for the parts of a game traditionally handled by a user’s console or PC.”

    • DarthDiggler

      GHz

      So iPhone 1 couldn’t use the phone connection to download apps or music?

      I could do that on my BlackBerry about the time iPhone came out. I would find it hard to believe the iPhone couldn’t do the same thing.

      If they didn’t care about the guy without internet, why did they have desktop software that would sync your PC data with your phone?

      I think you have it a little backwards. Back when the iPhone came out at least in the USA Apple knew they would have some challenges so they did everything they could to make sure the phone could operate in a manner that was useful without having WiFi. We are talking 2007 which isn’t that long ago but 2007 was before WiFi was ubiquitous like it almost is now. iPhone and Android likely drove for more broadband adoption by businesses that wanted to offer WiFi to court smart phone users who wanted to abstain from paying high data rates.

      Now TF…impossible because the assumption was that the tech was not ready for primetime.

      I want a quote from someone saying this wasn’t possible.

      IMHO this statement is just fluff. Likely when they were developing this tech it was very much behind closed doors. I highly doubt they had a rotating door to the R&D lab where they invited industry big wigs to come in and say “you can’t do that it is impossible”!!!

      Adding sub-par AI to bots in a multiplayer game isn’t really all that ground breaking. I would suggest to you that EA’s Battlefield 4 servers have much more computing to do to keep track of all the destruction and players in the game. This is basically Respawn tooting their own horn.

      Respawn engineer Jon Shiring says that since the beta ended, some skeptical devs have already changed their minds about the feasibility of using Azure for the parts of a game traditionally handled by a user’s
      console or PC.

      Who are these skeptical devs? I say there are none really. Give me direct quotes from alleged skeptical devs. At best maybe some peeps internally said this wouldn’t work and were proven wrong? 😛

      Also Respawn was heavily funded by MS, do you really think they are going to say anything bad about Azure? 🙂

    • GHz

      “If they didn’t care about the guy without internet, why did they have desktop software that would sync your PC data with your phone?”

      1st you’d have to download that data from the internet right? Also PC data does not = Apple services. Apple made it somewhat difficult to migrate certain files they’d rather have you buy. As far as comparing what BB was doing….when you set out to accomplish your agenda, don’t do what the other guy was doing that was killing him.

      Then it was a smartphone. This was the killer reason and why Cell phone companies force data plans on you. Internet Internet Internet..it’s all about the internet & services…high speed at that.

      As far as TF and the culture surrounding it. I gave you link, and there were some words being said as shared by the Respawn team. You can take what they said however you want. But that is their story for us read. They’ll make money whether we believe them or not. As long as i get to play games like TF, I’m good…Dont care. 🙂

  • Kevin Kirby

    Cloud+Tiled Resources+DX12 >>> Shitstation 4

    • You are flat out wrong

      Hahaha, right on cue. Mong.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Kevin is here for story time again.

    • G-Man

      @ Xtreme Derp

      When you’re older you’ll understand.

    • DarthDiggler

      @G-Man

      The cloud existed before Microsoft, games have been using cloud technology to some degree for some time now. Leaderboards are a hosted applications in the cloud. Dedicated servers are hosted applications in the cloud. MMOs have a great deal of computing that doesn’t happen on the clients and that is taken care of in the cloud.

      Just speaking obtusely about the cloud and talking about how it will improve gaming is naive and just showcases that you are buying into hype. Having a cloud doesn’t instantly improve your game it all depends on how you use it. If you depend too heavily on cloud resources especially in a single player game the gaming community would have ample reason to suggest that MS is adopting their original always online requirements again.

      See my response above to Kevin Kirby for more information.

    • Gekko36

      So your point is that cloud has existed for a long time, it is used in games in different guises, it is a proven technology.

      However because you haven’t seen a game running with it and it’s not come from the Japs means you’re buying into hype.

      BOLLOCKS!

      MS have been clear to show a tech demo of what they are planning, if it works, then brilliant.

      What your failing to grasp is most of the tech savvy population will wait and see how the technology advances and only opine at that point.

      You on the other hand want to label something right now with little to know education on the method of delivery, which MS will provide I’m sure further down the line.

      As for “Always online”… it’d be a bad business decision to go back on their word, when MS are working on gaining customer trust… YOU want this to be true so post it on a thread but you offer nothing but rumor, suspicion, or total bollocks!

    • scotmacb

      I have played games at high setting on my pc that would never run on it without the cloud and that was with a 5meg connection it was called onlive now i have a 100meg so bring it on tough for the people with crap connections

    • Gekko36

      Agreed

    • Failz

      Haters gonna hate. Listen to the expert here. You say its not going to work so I guess this demo was a hoax. Honestly do you people actually read your comments? There’s a demo link to this article as proof that cloud computing works. You PS fans like beating around the bush.

      You all say the same thing about DX12 and how it wouldn’t make a difference, yet 3 large hardware makers (including the company who built the parts for PS4 and X1) say this is a huge plus for gaming. Then the same flock all come out and say it doesn’t work. Now Sony are trying to implement it into there system. If it isn’t that much of a big deal then why is Sony investing into it now?
      The company that earns $billions a day and works on software 24/7 are telling us something.

      No one has to believe it but to suggest it doesn’t work the way you think it works is just fanboyism at its best. I believe this can work and this is going to be the start for many things to come. I game on PC so regardless if it come out now or later I am willing to wait for it.

    • Michael Norris

      You and Kevin need a room.

    • Mary

      Kevin was so upset about backing a technically inferior gaming machine that he took out his frustration on the online community. “Take that”, he shouted as he mashed the keys with words clearly beyond his childish understanding.

    • Johnny

      Kinda like the same 4 or 5 kids filling the comments with the xone sucks despite the smartest people in their respective fields saying other wise on article after article. Hahaha hahaha

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_6w0xSTU5rB:disqus You might have a point if the XBONE didn’t suck. 🙂 LOL 🙂

    • Johnny

      That made me laugh so I gave you an up vote.

    • Michael Norris

      LoL,Kevin is living on a different planet,a planet where Xbone is a more powerful console with more games.

    • Gekko36

      Michael, stop masturbating on the keyboard. You sound like a 15 year old

    • DarthDiggler

      @kevin_kirby:disqus

      You do realize that MS doesn’t have any proprietary holdings on any of that technology right?

      So if the Cloud + Tiled Resources + DX12 is something that the marketplace really gravitates to, do you think Sony would just sit there and do nothing? Likely Sony already has or is already working on tools that replicate many of the features that you are touting as strengths for the XBONE platform. So the PS4 with it’s better hardware can implement any feature that comes to XBONE in a more robust manner.

      Microsoft does not innovate, they just adopt public standards apply some of their own tech to attempt to call it their own.

      Also the fact that you call the PS4 a Shitstation 4 completely discredits any sort of credibility that you think you have. On paper no one that has any sense of hardware will disagree that the PS4 apes the XBONE in performance. This is also demonstrated via the software that is released for both platforms and 4 out of 5 times the PS4 version is superior.

    • Gekko36

      Correction, Microsoft created SOAP. It is and has been an industry standard with XML for years.

      Microsoft also was the first to design software interoperability with .Net.

      You mentioned Kevin’s credibility RE: Shitshation 4. You did exactly the same thing with supposition and assumed facts.

      Stones and Glass Houses come to mind

    • datdude

      Another poor soul desperately hoping his 500 dollars makes dat bone firm instead of completely limp. Good luck with that. Too bad the PS4 already does what Microsoft is promising dat bone will do “at some time in the distant future”. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

    • Gekko36

      I could mention your spelling being atrocious… but I won’t, your own argument is that of a child.

      I’d recommend “special needs” education, however you might not have the ability to take a good suggestion and implement it.

    • datdude

      Your response is risible and diaphanous, and expected from a bottom feeding troglodyte. Enjoy looking up those words we all know you don’t understand. Spelling indeed. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Dat idiot!!!!

    • Reason Freeman

      SingleplayerStation 4

    • You are flat out wrong

      RF still in tatters.

      Nogamesbox Done.

    • Michael Norris

      Xboxdone,Xboned,Xbone,Derpboxone.

    • Michael Norris

      Cloud+Tiled Resources+DX12=Dogshit

    • Guest

      Just call it the $0N¥ PauperStation Foul for N4Gtard NeoFAGs that have no life and no gamez.

  • Johnny

    Old news but good info. We will have the same 5-6 individuals claiming its not possible despite the demo just like they did with tiled resources video. Because they all know better than some of the best and brightest in the industry building this tec and saying yes this is some really amazing technology that can be utilized.

    • DarthDiggler

      And it’s not exactly proprietary to MS.

    • Johnny

      Exactly that is why I don’t get the nay sayers. It’s a good demo of what is possible not of what isn’t possible using todays technology for gaming. 😉

    • Guest

      Because $0N¥ paupers can’t afford a console that will implement this properly sooner rather than later.

  • datdude

    Yawn…. wake me up when Microsoft stops promising clooouuddzzz and utter bullshot and actually delivers on some of their “promises”. Its a crying shame that the more expensive console has to resort to smoke and mirrors promising more in the future to achieve the same technical capabilities the less expensive competitor IS CAPABLE OF RIGHT NOW!!!! Good luck with that.

  • Johnny

    Yawn and wake me when a pony has something intelligent to say other than bah this won’t work.

    • DarthDiggler

      Well so far MS hasn’t exactly excited and dazzled people with practical demonstrations of this in their games.

      On the PS4 Titanfall may not require as many Cloud resources since the PS4 has more local resources.

    • Guest

      PS4 is already a PoS DorkDicker. You paupers seem to fail to understand that BOTH consoles have weak hardware. Dumb f*ck!

  • You are flat out wrong

    I wish I could afford a console and not troll on the net all day l:(

    • You are flat out wrong

      Another tribute, how cute.

    • Guest

      Hit the nail on the head, but Mr.no-life low-life videogame pauper won’t ever get it. $0N¥ Paupers barely have the IQ to take a dump.

  • Kevin Kirby
  • Failz

    No surprise here, Cloud is there and it works. All we need to do now is implement it into gaming. Future looks great.

  • Guest

    Well whadayaknow. It’s the same low-life no-life $0N¥ PauperStation N4Gay NeoFAGots on every article again. Same losers at life and too pauper to buy anything sucking on the welfare.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Go away, Guy Brohski.


 

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