DX12 On Xbox One Has Potential For Substantial Performance Improvements, May Help FPS And Resolution

The Nitrous Engine team also explains how DX12 has benefited the engine itself and the upcoming Ashes of Singularity.

Posted By | On 09th, Dec. 2015 Under News | Follow This Author @GamingBoltTweet


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GamingBolt recently had a long chat with Dan Baker, Tim Kipp and Brian Wade from the Nitrous Engine. For those of you who are unaware, Nitrous is a state of the art engine which was built from the ground up for current gen consoles and modern gaming PCs. Nitrous Games are working with StarDock Studios on Ashes of the Singularity, an upcoming real time strategy with breathtaking visuals. Ashes of the Singularity is currently using DirectX 12 to render thousands of physical effects and independent light sources.

In the past Oxide games has claimed that DirectX 12 will improve visuals, and this has become apparent on the PC. But DirectX 12 will also be coming to the Xbox One. As far as we know the Xbox One already has an API library which is similar to DirectX 12, so can this be improved further when DirectX 12 actually arrives on the console?

“We’re not experts on the Xbox One, but I can tell you what my understanding is. There are two benefits with DirectX 12 that are performance related. It’s a lot lower CPU overhead. That’s important because the CPUs on the consoles are not powerful. You have many of them but each one is not powerful. You’ll get a huge CPU benefit if you were having trouble with that by using DirectX 12. The other thing that DirectX 12 really does is that it offers more support for advanced GPU features. And there’s not a great way of doing that at all on DX11. By enabling that on Xbox One you can get pretty big performance improvements on consoles. There should be tangible benefits. It will take people a few years to acclimatize to how to program and get those benefits,” the development team said to GamingBolt.

But in the long run, can it result in games pushing out more pixels or a better resolution or FPS?

“Sure. If you use synchronous compute feature, if you optimize your research transition barriers that you have direct control over for DirectX, there are things you can do that you have no way to analog in DX11. There’s potential for substantial performance improvements which could manifest in increased resolution and frame rate.”

“There’s also additional benefit for developers to invest in trying to really pull the most that they can out. So they can bring that directly back to the PC. Because if you have to build two different paths you have to optimize one over the other. That’s as much a budget and a resource issue as anything else. It certainly is going to encourage people to invest more in that technology.”

One thing that has defined Ashes of the Singularity is that it’s one of the first games that will utilizing DirectX 12, it’s been built for it. The development team explained the benefits this has resulted in when used in conjunction with the Nitrous Engine.

“There’s lots of benefits. The direct control is really big. We can guarantee smoothness and get rid of hitches and do synchronization. DX11 has a lot of bugs even after we send our game in. DX12 is so much cleaner. We all this performance tests early on in it. When we shipped DX11 5five years ago, with Civ 5, those drivers were a mess. The fact that DX12 is working this well so early bodes well for them. A lot of the problems we were just anticipating would just go away.”

“There are a few things we’ve been able to embrace: object space, lighting. If you look at the next gen API they are what really make those technologies feasible. Both of them require increased draw count. If you look at it in DirectX 11 it was a very batched limited API. Two of the fundamental technologies we developed and embraced both the temporal anti-aliasing and the object space lighting require a significant increase in the number of batches that can be submitted to the GPU. Without that we would be more limited. If you look at Nvidia’s DirectX 11 driver performance, they’ve gotten what I would consider stellar results out of that. DirectX 12 should result in more stable game releases.”

Ashes of Singularity is due sometime next year. Stay tuned for our complete interview in the coming days.


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  • Starman

    STFU already about it … just 3 months ago ‘Gamingbolt (you0 ,IGN etc etc was saying it wasn’t going to do anything at all for xb1 like you said the cloud was fake fueling up your little fangirls … And last … stop trying to big up and save that crappy box you call a gaming console ..ps4 it sucks , they suck(Sony) and we can do without them ….

    • Rodney Patrick

      STFU!! You fanbotting right now illing , ha haaaaa

    • hvd hvd

      these are click bait articles made to bring you in.the next article will be 10 reasons to buy a ps4 and then the next article is 10 reasons to buy a xbox one..lol..just click bait articles.the guy is right about dx12 tho.

    • DarthDiggler

      @hvd_hvd:disqus

      Not according to Phil Spenser, head of Xbox.

    • hvd hvd

      you guys cling way to much to one quote..lol i feel sad for you.

    • GHz

      Dude you cant read. You lack comprehension. Even though Phil starts off by stating that DX12 will not dramatically change the graphics capabilities of the XB1, the fact is his definition of “not dramatically is….

      @nickomatic20 When you think about start of gen to end of gen teams learn a lot. DX12 will help as well, think PDZ to Halo 4.— Phil Spencer (@XboxP3) April 7, 2014

      That’s what he also meant when he said YOU WILL SEE IMPROVEMENT IN GAMES THAT USE DX12.
      Point is Phil already gave us an example of what to expect. Its all there for you to read. It’s Phil’s business if he thinks that example he gave us before, isn’t a big deal or like he said, “not dramatic.”

    • hvd hvd

      all they hear is half of the story.he said no massive change.that doesnt mean there is not a huge change or a big change.they just hear it wont be massive then turned their brain off..lol

    • GHz

      To be honest, I temper my expectations and just go with what MSFT shows us, like Crackdown, Forza 6, Quantum Break, the big battles in Halo 5 etc. Those games prove to us that XB1 can do what the PS4 can do in the 1st & 3rd party games and then some. Those games really do show that there isn’t a power difference when actual code is running on those machines. Then there is the fact that its all being done in Dx11+ still. 😉

    • Bobby Griffin

      I couldn’t have said it better.Xbox has more AAA exclusives and the ui is killer. Just like the 360 did from start to finish the xbox one is transforming before our eyes. Great for gaming I also wish Sony the best and hope they get back to gaming and stop trying to squeeze every dime out of its loyal fanbase.

    • GHz

      Agreed!. Other than that, Sony doing awesome and have a great lineup of games coming up. Wish them the best of luck , even though they don’t need it. 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      Xbox has less games in all categories.

    • DarthDiggler

      @hvd_hvd:disqus

      Stop telling me what I hear. I read the whole story, I been keeping up with this DirectX12 stuff on XB1 since day one. Mainly because of XbotFanladyboys like yourself that keep pretending that DX12 will usher in the second coming of Christ.

      I am aware it will improve things there would be no reason to update the XB1 if there wasn’t some improvements. Like Phil said though, it won’t be dramatic. It won’t be a game changer.

    • kreator

      See that’s your problem, you only read what you deem necessary!

    • J.j. Barrington

      You say that while you and the rest keep rewriting the definitions of words to get the meanings you want out of them?

    • Kfal Balli

      That’s a substantial jump. PDZ to Halo 4

    • GHz

      We wait and see. But the fact is the man said it. They also told us that for every physical XB1, we’ll get three in the cloud. That turned out to be as much as 13 based on the Crackdown demo. They told PC devs to tell us that DX12 only gives a 40% increase. It turns out that the actual performance increase on PC was 500%. I see a pattern. 🙂

    • DarthDiggler

      @TheRealGHz:disqus

      YOU WILL SEE IMPROVEMENT IN GAMES THAT USE DX12.

      Thank you Captain Obvious! 🙂

      Of course you will see an improvement, but like Phil said it won’t be DRAMATIC.

      They wouldn’t release DX12 on XB1 if there wasn’t ANY improvements, the whole reason you update a system firmware is to fix issues and improve things!

      If Direct X 12 was going to make the Xbox One run just as good as the PS4 for multiplatform games — why wouldn’t Phil just come out and say that? He hasn’t because he knows it is not true.

    • GHz

      I don’t know? I want to ask him why did MSFT told us that for every 1 physical XB1, we’ll get 3 more in cloud. Then when come to find out, it can be as much as 13 XB1’s in the cloud. That’s 10x more. And why would they tell devs to tell us that DX12 performance increase on PC will be 40% when the truth was that it can be as much as 500%. We should ask Phil together, “Why so modest Phil?” Perfect Dark Zero to Halo 4 is a pretty dramatic jump in my opinion. So why all the modesty? Who knows. Shrugs*

    • MKAI28

      I remember Brad Wardell saying, we were told to say 40% to keep “expectations” low.. Because ppl wouldn’t believe the numbers..( in one of the tic podcast) Meaning they didn’t want to hype it up, turns out it was 300% to 600%. So same could be said on what Phil said about DX12 not being “dramatic”. I see that as him keeping expectations low.. Which in IMO is the best way to go..;)

    • GHz

      Let me just make even clearer. Phil’s statement actually addresses two things. 1st the hardware question which started with Brad Wardell original statement.

      “XBox One is the biggest beneficiary; it effectively gives every Xbox One owner a new GPU that is twice as fast as the old one. ” – Brad Wardell.

      http://www.neowin.net/news/directx-12-a-game-changer-for-xbox-one

      But the problem was some people actually thought Brad meant this in a physical sense. So he went on twitter to explain that the hardware wont change cause its fixed.

      [URL=http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/mr_mxyzptlk1/media/brad2_zpslth9stir.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w586/mr_mxyzptlk1/brad2_zpslth9stir.jpg
      That confusion is what Phil is again addressing, and making sure that no one go around thinking that DX12 dramatically enhance XB1 graphics as in adding a physical GPU. That’s why Phil followed up that statement by saying again, that the CPU/GPU/memory in XB1 don’t change because of DX12. That’s hardware/physical & it’s fixed. same thing Brad had to address before.

      The 2nd half of his statement addresses what DX12 actually does for the XB1, and that is make the hardware work better which results in improvements in games built with DX12 in mind.

    • DarthDiggler

      @TheRealGHz:disqus & @hvd_hvd:disqus & @disqus_tpOqHGvHlR:disqus

      Let’s settle it this way.

      How much money do you want to wager on this?

      Put your money where your mouth is. How certain are you in a dollar amount?

      You all saying DX12 will double the performance of XB1, like going from PDZ -> Halo. So how much money do you want to wager on that?

    • GHz

      1st of all you already lose. Wanting to wager on a forum like you’d pay up WHEN you lose. Under Dx11 we ended 2015 strong on the graphic/performance end. We already locking 1080p/60 with games that are some of the best in their class. Let devs talk & share their opinions. Let the games do the talking. AMD said XB1 will get the same benefits PC gets from DX12. In proportionate to the XB1 abilities of course. You lose. Stop crying cause everyone benefits. Well @ least I hope the PS4 does. Shrugz*

    • Starman

      That was old , and if you look at Phils pattern …”themes, back compat etc etc … he throws you for a loop … (throws you off0 have you thinking less of announcement and then bam ..here it is ..it’s true form….. please read again fangirl

    • hvd hvd

      dont bother with them they cling to that comment way to much.just feel sad for them like i do…lol

    • DarthDiggler

      @hvd_hvd:disqus

      It’s a quote from the Head of Xbox. So when you are presented with the words from the head of Xbox that refutes your myths and cliche — your answer to that is he didn’t mean it? Or he didn’t say it?

      So passing around your opinion disguised as facts is just fine, but when you are presented with facts you put your head in the sand!

      You are completely intellectually dishonest. If I had to guess you aren’t that intellectual at all. Have fun running the fryer and flipping burgers!!!

    • hvd hvd

      like i said before you guys depend on one quote way to much.
      i feel sorry for you.

    • GHz

      And they interpreted it wrong. 😀

    • hvd hvd

      yep they only read half of it and turned their brain off for the rest..it could be a big change or a huge or a giant change just not a massive change thats the part they read..lol

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_tpOqHGvHlR:disqus

      Please find me the quote where Phil says he was wrong here and corrected himself.

  • CouldntComeUpWithAName

    I came and I left….

  • Sloth

    Who cares other then PS fanboys? I am happy with the X1 and I think the games look great on it.

    • Kfal Balli

      They do. Halo 5 is really a graphical marvel when you start to compare it to other titles.

    • GHz

      This was me the whole time playing the campaign. O.O

      http://picview01.pomoho.com/photos/20120315/m_14_634674241741718750_37809100.jpg

    • chaaka_boom

      Halo 5 coop campaign is Fing gorgeous. Multiplayer is perfection…all of it. Like 6 new maps next week. Brilliant 343.

    • Mark

      Halo mp is thee best since Halo 2 imo. It’s unbelievably good

    • chaaka_boom

      Agreeeee !!!

    • Mav6

      Agreee… It’s really that good, gotta to admit I was pleasantly surprised that the Multiplayer has managed to keep it’s balance and has actually gotten better especially with all the new abilities added in. Perfection indeed…

    • chaaka_boom

      Exactly..Halo 5 will likely be my go to game until Halo 6. Nothing matches what it offers and the enjoyment from its battles. My GOTY.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Lol

    • Kfal Balli

      People Lol everyday B

    • J.j. Barrington

      … I know. I sure did. That comment was hilarious. Know any other good jokes?

    • Kfal Balli

      Yes. Look in the mirror if you want to see something funny.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Lmfao.

      Now, preach to me more about how immature I am, hypocrite.

      What’s next? “Yo mama” jokes?

    • Kfal Balli

      See above

    • J.j. Barrington

      You really have given up, haven’t you?

      It’s sad, because I had higher hopes for you. I thought you might actually be able to intelligently debate, but it appears I was wrong.

      My apologies for overestimating you.

    • Kfal Balli

      Can’t debate with fanboys. If I said water is wet, you would find a way to disagree with that.

      How can anyone take you seriously – http://i.imgur.com/TFjgL5M.jpg

    • Mark

      Lol

    • J.j. Barrington

      What have I been wrong about? And don’t cone at me with some subjective crap that you say I’m wrong on because an opinion differs.

      Give me something factual that I have been wrong about.

      If you can’t do that, resign yourself to being called out as the fanboy YOU are.

    • Kfal Balli

      Whatever you need to tell yourself so you can sleep at night.

    • Kfal Balli
  • hvd hvd

    the sony fan boys wouldnt believe that even if you showed them your sefl.they are in complete denial at this point because the x1 is surpassing them on all lvls at this point.

    • DarthDiggler

      @hvd_hvd:disqus

      OH REALLY?

      On a serious note — do you have the ability to tell the truth or is there some sort of mental scarring there?

    • hvd hvd
    • Starman

      Get that fake chart out of here fangirl……

    • DarthDiggler

      @disqus_tpOqHGvHlR:disqus

      Sorry to burst your bubble but those numbers are pretty accurate.

    • sgt_hammertime

      ha! wait, did you just say vgcharz is pretty accurate? loooool

    • kreator

      M$ sold around 22mil

    • Dotcum22

      Source?

    • Gamez Rule

      Have you got the *sold to consumers* sales figures for Xbone then?

    • Billy Crystals

      MULTIPLATS WITH HIGHER FRAME-RATE ON PS4 (source: Digital Foundry):
      Just Cause 3 (and higher resolution)
      Chivalry: Medieval Warfare
      Fallout 4
      CoD: Black Ops 3 (and higher resolution)
      Darksiders 2
      Star Wars: Battlefront (and higher resolution)
      Assassins Creed: Syndicate
      Transformers: Devastation
      The Witcher 3 (and higher resolution)
      Destiny: The Taken King
      Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 5
      Dishonored: Definitive Edition
      F1 2015 (and higher resolution)
      Batman Arkham Knight (and higher resolution)
      Project Cars (and higher resolution)
      Mortal Kombat X (and higher resolution)
      Dark Souls 2
      Borderlands
      Dying Light (and higher resolution)
      Saints Row 4
      Grand Theft Auto V
      Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty
      Lords of the Fallen (and higher resolution)
      Sleeping Dogs
      Alien: Isolation
      Plants vs Zombies (and higher resolution)
      Diablo 3
      Sniper Elite 3
      Child of Light
      Amazing Spiderman 2
      Tomb Raider (and higher resolution)
      Battlefield 4 (and higher resolution)
      Warframe
      Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag (and higher resolution)

      MULTIPLATS WITH HIGHER FRAME-RATE ON XBOX ONE (source: Digital Foundry):
      Mad Max
      Battlefield Hardline (but lower resolution)
      CoD AW (but lower resolution)
      Dragon Age Inquisition (but lower resolution)
      AC Unity
      CoD Ghosts (but lower resolution)

      HIGHEST RATED PS4 EXCLUSIVE: Bloodborne (92)
      HIGHEST RATED XB1 EXCLUSIVE: Halo 5 (84)

      HIGHEST RATED PS4 REMASTER: The Last of Us Remastered (95)
      HIGHEST RATED XB1 REMASTER: Halo MCC (85)

      AMOUNT OF POSITIVELY REVIEWED GAMES (source: Metacritic):
      PS4: 207
      XB1: 141

    • hvd hvd

      lol you tried WAY to hard.have fun paying for ps2 games bc that you already own and have fin with ff7 episodes being chopped up and paying x4 what the game is worth…lol..like i said im not going to even bother..lol

    • Billy Crystals

      You’re not going to bother because you have nothing to say. Time and time again XBONE has been proven to be weak trash with inferior resolutions and inferior frame-rates. Hope tired Halo 5 was worth it LOL!!!

    • GHz

      The truth is most 3rd party multiplats perform better on PS4. But it’s also true that these games also suffer on the PS4 somewhat, even though It’s also true that PS4 takes better advantage of the API. Its also true that DX11+ holds back the XB1. Now my question is why cant ALL the 3rd party games be superior on Ps4? I cant wait to see what will happen when the games get bigger and more elaborate. At least MSFT is talking about solutions that will lock performance (DX12). At least we can look forward to playing elaborate FX heavy games like Crackdown on the XB1. I’m curious to see what Sony’s answer will be. DX11 & deferred rendering needs to die along with all those ancient coding techniques. @ GDC, they said XB1 was ready for that new school of thought. We didn’t hear a peep from Sony. Why?

    • hvd hvd

      no you are a fan boy and i have dealt with many it wouldnt change anything when i prove you wrong and i dont feel like taking the time to do it.ill post the truth counter act everything you says then he changes it uo to make you look better and i prove him wrong again.i have been there im just not going to bother.

      you see the list WAY to much time on that im not going to bother..lol

    • chaaka_boom

      Ask him why battlefront is the best looking game on either console…and its low resolution on both consoles. Resolution is next to meaningless in terms of graphical fidelity on consoles. Ask him why Halo 5 and Forza 6 are locked at 60fps while ps4 has yet to have a 60fps game locked. Dx12 and cloud processing are next Gen….and ps4 cant handle either.

    • GHz

      BOOM!!

    • hvd hvd

      there would be no point.you can show him tons of links videos
      tweets and it still wouldnt matter.they would find ways google to try and find something to twist so they can appear to be right.
      if you a xbox guy told the ps4 fan boy the sky is blue he would say its green.

      there gets to a point where you just let them be ignorant.remember the mass of people are dumb.the few are smart.

    • J.j. Barrington

      But for all their “locked” status, both those games are inferior to other titles in their respective genres in terms of graphical performance.

    • chaaka_boom

      Forza inferior to driveclub…you need to go have a look at the reviews. That is so insane its laughable. Halo inferior to what Killzone ? You are a foolish little sheep. Go play knack and wait for 100foot robot golf and a broken VR headset with some really really ugly gimmick games.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hilarious. Sure, change the metric when it suits you. All that talk about graphics, and yet as soon as someone calls out your claim, it’s reviews.

      Let’s change it again, shall we? Now it’s about sales.

      Lmao

    • chaaka_boom

      Are reviews not used to judge peoples opinions and the overall quality of games ? I’m confused…i would never say that sales should be used to judge the quality of a game…that is assinine.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Weren’t you just talking about graphics?

    • chaaka_boom

      Graphics ?? Graphics mean nothing unless the game is fun. Reviews take into account all aspects of games including graphics and fun factor.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I asked what you were talking about. YOU were talking about graphics, and those two Xbox games being “locked,” which has nothing to do with reviews.

      This whole damn article is about game performance. Why are you suddenly trying to shift away from that to something far more subjective, and thus less reliable and quantifiable?

    • chaaka_boom

      Performance and graphics are different son. Native resolution is almost meaningless in terms of graphical quality on consoles. Regardless reviews take into account graphics, performance, art style and fun factor amongst others. The reviews for forza horizon, forza 6, ori, Halo, tomb raider and others stand very well on their own. No one is shifting anything. Driveclub is inferior to forza and killzone or whatever is inferior to Halo 5.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Performance directly affects graphics; graphics inherently rely on performance. And from the outset, dx12 has been one of the many things in line for the XB1 that would allow it to have multiplats perform at the same level, graphically, as the PS4.

      Your argument certainly has changed.

    • chaaka_boom

      My argument remains the same. Xbox one has the best exclusives, the best UI 50% faster than ps4, the best controller in gaming (elite), the best value with free back compat and EA access, the best future exclusives, the most desire to deliver and the biggest install base in gaming…all of windows 10 devices including Xbox one. Ps4 is a turd, an indiebox with nothing I need and Sony is a greedy fan base gouging farse that wont get a dime from me.

    • J.j. Barrington

      A bunch of fanboy fueled opinions don’t make for a sound argument.

    • chaaka_boom

      Ask me if I give a F##k.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Why would I do a thing like that?

    • chaaka_boom

      Peace..enjoy what you got. Grab an Xbox..its fantastic

    • J.j. Barrington

      The one game I’d really like to play isn’t a system seller, so no.

      Thanks, though.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Wait. If you don’t, you sure have wasted a lot of time commenting.

    • Dotcum22

      Lol and you are not a fanboy?

    • J.j. Barrington

      That word is not comprehensive enough for that clown.

    • hvd hvd

      have fun paying for ps2 games you already own and ff7 being changed and chopped up in to episodes…lol..im not getting in to it with you because there is no point..lol

    • Truth™

      The funnier thing is that the PS4 is also weak trash with ineferior resolutions and inferior framerates.

      This is all the Sonycuck has “MUH SUB-30FPS FRAMERATE RUNS LESS SUB-30FPS THAN YOURS”

      Pathetic, really.

    • tommi Lee

      Great! I have only two questions: can I play Halo, Forza, Gears, Fable on it? and maybe I can play my PS3 games on it? No? So…thanks.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Can you play any Playstation exclusives on Xbox?

      What an asinine retort.

    • hvd hvd

      you mean like the order 1866..lol i only need 6hr to play that game.how is you pay to play ps2 games even if you own them coming?..lol..how is you chopped remake of ff7 comming?..lol.
      how is the indieststion coming..lol indiestation where indies await…lol…..pass

    • J.j. Barrington

      Why do you even try?

    • hvd hvd

      the same reason as you my trollish friend same reason as you.lol

    • J.j. Barrington

      But you can’t correct anybody, because you’re just wrong. Gotta have a different reason.

    • hvd hvd

      i correct people fine but you seam to call it a troll.as i told you in toehr posts if the truth is a troll then im a troll.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You can’t correct anybody because you don’t know what the correct thing is.

      Case in point, you think your transparent trolling has even a passing resemblance to the truth.

    • hvd hvd

      #truthtistrolling

    • VelvetMark

      I only need 2 hours to play a netflix movie on the Xbox 720p since that’s all it’s good for.

    • hvd hvd

      they why did you wate $300 on it?because you dont have one or you wouldnt have said that.you obviously dont have one.

    • Rock Gnarly

      You only need 4 hours to play Halo 5!

    • hvd hvd

      not if you go multiplayer which is what halo is about.thats like saying cod is about its story missions..lol

    • Rock Gnarly

      What if people don’t like Halo for multi, what if they’re looking forward to the story and missions? If multi is all 343 has to offer with Halo now, it might as well be another Titanfall.

    • tommi Lee

      I can not and do not want. Except perhaps uncharted

    • J.j. Barrington

      Then flip that around to your own question, smart guy.

    • Gamez Rule
    • Gamez Rule

      Can you not play them on PC?

    • tommi Lee

      Can i? Really? play Forza, gow 2,3,4, halo 3,4,5 play on PC?

    • Gamez Rule

      “can I play Halo, Forza, Gears, Fable on it”

      Microsoft’s Phil Spencer has not ruled out Xbox One exclusive titles coming to PC.

      Games like
      Quantum Break,
      Scalebound,
      Crackdown 3

      Also hinted for ( windows 10 PC )

      Gears of War 4
      Halo Wars 2 is coming to PC
      Recore might
      Sea Of Thieves
      Cup Head
      Inside ( xbone 1st )
      Killer Instinct Season 3
      Cities: Skylines
      Tacoma
      Fable Legends
      Below
      Elite: Dangerous

    • kreator

      Yep, and we know how much DF loves M$! ;/ #Asshat

    • J.j. Barrington

      They crowned 360 begins versions of games as superior in almost every instance last gen, and not one Xbox fan complained then.

    • Gamez Rule

      Last Gen Xbox fanboys were like= “360 multi-plats have better resolutions & frame-rates, so PS3 multi-plats suck!”

      But nowadays PS4 is better it’s more like this☺☺☺

      Current gen Xbox fanboys are like = “I can’t even tell the difference between 720p & 1080p on multi-platform games, we play games and don’t care about resolution, or the framerates, it’s not a big deal”

      LMAO!…

    • J.j. Barrington

      Worse is that IF a rare occasion like Mad Max appears, it all suddenly matters again.

    • Truth™

      Now tell us how many of those run better on PC over PS4

      Spoilers: 99% 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      Now tell us why PC counts in a console conversation.

      Spoilers: it doesn’t.

    • Truth™

      It only doesn’t count when crying console cucks don’t want to acknowledge there’s a platform doing 1080P 60FPS while PS4 wheezes along at 900P sub-30FPS

      PC is simply a better choice for gaming 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      It only doesn’t count because it’s not the same market.

      It only STARTS counting when insecure PC fanboys need to feel relevant, or Xbox fanboys run out of talking points involving their own console.

    • Truth™

      PC is always relevant since it’s the most popular gaming platform in the world

      Delusional Sonycucks can’t accept it 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      Star Wars Battlefront online figures..

      PC: 45,433 (24h peak: 49,871)
      PS4: 178,374 (24h peak: 187,286)

      So even if PC was the “most popular gaming platform in the world” it doesn’t mean much when new released games are showing more console gamers online than PC gamers.

      Lucky for me I own all types of gaming goodies so I can pick and choose what I play on, but people like yourself is just making PC gamers look bad due to your insults etc and we all know that will never change no matter what consoles can or cannot do when compared to PCs because you are nothing but a closed minded person when it comes to gaming in general☺

    • Truth™

      It means that no one on PC bought that casual trash game while Sony plebs bought into the marketing 🙂

    • Gamez Rule

      It doesn’t mean that from my views. It just shows you insulting people that don’t game on PCs, while putting down companies that make games for any other platform that’s not for PC.

      You can call people names and insult them as much as you want, but you not only insult yourself by doing so but also the rest of the self-proclaimed master-race.

      I’m happy to use both consoles and PCs, but it’s sad seeing PC gamers like yourself following console topics just to big up PCs while putting down console gamers.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Lol sure

    • VelvetMark

      Surpassing the PS4 in what category exactly?
      Framerate? Nope.
      Resolution? Nope.
      UI Responsiveness? Nope. (1.5 second lag when I press left to sign in on my XOne with the new UI).
      Sales? Nope.
      Number of Games? Nope.
      Uptime for Live? Got PS4 beat but by a slim margin.

      Give me the categories that X1 is “surpassing” the PS4 in. I’ll wait.

    • Edonus

      Exclusives with dedicated servers…….

      Amount of things the UI can actually do…..

      Attach rate……

      More siggraph graphic awards……

      Owners with girlfriends……

      Owners that arent weirdoes and live in their parents basements and attics……

    • J.j. Barrington

      It’s amazing how far you Xbox fanboys have to reach in order to come up with even mediocre victories…

    • Edonus

      HAHAHA…… look at the big bad sony pony. Stompin his hooves all big and bad now he lookin stupid.
      I had to break out some facts and buss dat pony @ss……. Now he all you fanboys go so far out and little victories and blah blah blah.
      I really don’t have anything against the Ps4 most xbox supporters don’t we just know its not really as good as IGN and the internet would have you believe. If it was I would go and buy one but I wont because I see it for what it really is….. a toy.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hoof stomping? That’s the best you can come up with?

      I dunno who coined the “Son pony” term, but it really makes you guys look pathetic to get behind it full force like you just did.

      And facts? lmao. You just listed a bunch of crap off the top of your head, half of which aren’t even true.

      But I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised with this coming from you. You, who’s still defending Kinect as the greatest thing ever even though Microsoft themselves have abandoned it.

      It’s always funny to see fanboys talking about others as if they’re not one, themselves.

  • J.j. Barrington

    How many small time devs whose games don’t use all the available power of a console are we gonna hear from?

    • DLConspiracy//

      Let’s be honest it gives you purpose.

    • J.j. Barrington

      What purpose does it give me? It matters none at all to me, cuz I’m not the one intentionally misinterpreting quotes for clicks, or getting my hopes up.

      Sounds more like your department than mine.

    • DLConspiracy//

      Whatever you say. I knkw what I meant. Cant interpret the english language any better for you.

    • J.j. Barrington

      What part of English is knkw?

    • DLConspiracy//

      Grabbing at straws now.

    • J.j. Barrington

      lmao, you talk about somebody not understanding English, and proceed to immediately use a… something, and yet you talk about grabbing at straws?

    • DLConspiracy//

      That’s nice.

    • Mark

      1) Don’t know what u mean by “small time”. Oxide Games aren’t indie devs. You should read up on them.

      http://www.oxidegames.com/about/

      2) Oxide actually helped develope DirectX12, and has more experience with the API than any other studio out there.

      3) If Ashes of the Singularity does ever come to consoles, it’ll get every ounce of performance from them, and use every feature AMD has put in their CPUs and GPUs…

    • GHz

      The ignorant preaching that fake doctrine to the ignorant, and the ignorant with all his 20+ fake accounts loving it. The life of a ps4 fanatic. LOOOOOOOL 😀

    • J.j. Barrington

      Who has fake accounts? You? Why?

    • GHz

      BWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAH 😀
      I mention ignorant #1 & 2 in my statement. Now go back n figure it out. 😉

    • J.j. Barrington

      Just based on your comments, you seem to be talking about yourself.

    • Gamez Rule

      Agreed lol… He thinks that I have multi-accounts now lol. Sad really but there ya go.

    • GHz

      You got caught. I screen captured it so you don’t go back n lie about it. Its done. 😀

    • Mark

      GamezRule has fake accounts? Ahaha. How about JJ Barrington? Show n tell…

    • Gamez Rule

      Really, 1st I heard about it LOL… The bloke took a screen shot of me agree with someone, then he made a post that I answered to, and he thinks I have multi-accounts….Think he has multi-accounts on the way he thinks things through lmao!

      If I had something to say I’ll say it don’t need to hide behind some fake account lol

    • GHz

      That someone you agreed with was me after I responded to your other alias Xrat. You probably thought you were still signed in as Xrat when you responded. With so many accounts you have just to troll gamers, you’re bound to make a mistake. Well here it is.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2794bcfb28515f12c9e346fa32579fcd1bf24b70d679493609627990cf0813f4.jpg

    • Gamez Rule

      I agreed with Mr Xrat on the part where he stated …”We dismissed it doing anything substantail for Xbone”

      You then made a Post in which I also agreed with you hence why I posted to you..”You are correct about what you posted above”….See the ABOVE..if I was Mr Xrat it would have been BELOW..

      You think what ya like, but you are wrong in thinking I have more than one account lol..

    • Mark

      Lol I hear u Gamez. I dont think you’re a multi disqus account troll. Ghz just has his reasons.

    • Gamez Rule

      Cool. He might have reasons and as you know I’ve had debates with yourself a few times, both good and bad but i’m not trolling accounts lol.

    • Mark

      Hahahaa. U and GHZ are too funny. Why does it seem like, every thread on these sites somehow, devolve into personal stuff? Lol!

    • Gamez Rule

      Tell me about it lol.. Gaming has never been so fun☺

    • GHz

      The state of mind of a PS4 fanatic is amusing LOOOOOOOOOOOL 😀
      OMG ya’ll don’t rest. Mark addressed your false statement with facts. Otherwise gamers as a whole would be misinformed. That’s your intention, hence all those fake vote up to keep the lies front n center. You guys work really hard.

      How about these facts from AMD themselves? Keep burying yourself with that goon @gamezrule:disqus and all his fake accounts. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/593d48c6273c82095fa12c9dd132abb5467d3b75b877738b4abf604497ff9a3a.jpg

    • J.j. Barrington

      Odd that what Mark refers to only says SOME benefit and doesn’t go into detail as it pertains to capacity.

      Also interesting how your little image needs help- from you, I presume- to imply exact WHAT benefits there will be for the XB1.

      In other words: neither of you proved a damn thing, except that you heard what you wanted to.

    • GHz

      This is you and your goons when confronted with facts. LOOOL 😀 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4eb0758513da11c3f342cef5520158511f0bd6e72b3845356b97e637df385130.jpg
      Keep it gaming though 😉

    • J.j. Barrington

      Yeah, cuz that’s what unproven claims are. Facts.

      lmao.

    • GHz

      Don’t try to turn this into something else. This is in response to your initial lie. The FACT IS, the citable information provided by @Mark & I, accurately relay the information the party’s in question are about, unlike that myth you tried perpetrate. SMH. Its a not PS4 vs XB1 thing. Its about debunking the BS you all try push with your 20+ fake votes. You don’t have to LIE in attempt to derail any positive news about the XB1 to promote your love for the PS4.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Initial lie? That these guys are small devs? I’d never heard of them, and looking them up doesn’t really change the impression of them not being big time.

      They’ve made one game, as far as I’ve been able to research, and they have NO experience actually developing for XB1. So why do their words have any weight?

    • Mark

      I proved nothing. That wasn’t the point. I merely corrected your statement about them being “small” who’s game wouldn’t “use all the available power in consoles”. Pehaps you just didn’t know about them…

  • DarthDiggler

    This again? Please read this quote from Phil Spenser head of Microsoft’s Xbox division.

    • MaximMillion

      That quote is old. Like over a year. And it depends what he means by ‘dramatic.’ He does in fact say there will be improvement in that quote too.
      Since then he’s reiterated what sort of improvement is possible – the difference between Perfect Dark Zero and Halo 4. To me that’s actually quite a big improvement.
      DX12 is a set of development tools. It makes it easier for devs to squeeze performance out of the machine. The code has been optimised and which itself allows more resources to be redirected while the code is running. So of course there is going to be some improvement.

    • J.j. Barrington

      The quote is old, and still as true now as then.

    • Truth™

      LIke “Muh 7th core”, Right?

    • J.j. Barrington

      Aww, isn’t that cute? An Xbox fanboy pretending to be a PC fanboy so he can try to get a few shots in. I don’t know whether to admire your drive, or pity your desperation.

    • Truth™

      No, I just like putting Sonycucks back in their place on the totem poll. Only console I have is a Wii U.

      Keep on crying about “Muh 7th core” and that both are underpowered trash 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      Who’s crying? Aren’t you the only one that’s said it?

    • Truth™

      Seems like you are since you can’t even defend the 900PS4 and start deflecting immediately 🙂

    • J.j. Barrington

      What deflection? You make a claim that people are saying something only you have even said. You call it crying, and yet the only person who has mentioned it is you.

      The intelligence of you trolls is just getting worse and worse…

    • hvd hvd

      they only cling to that one quote.its sad.if phil said dx12 will make all games on the xbox one 1080p they would tear him up over that its not hard to see he down played it.with the devs and the is way more then one are coming out and saying dx12 gives xbox one aboost and the fan boys still deny it and these are dev’s that are saying it.

      nmagine what they would have done to phil a year ago if he said anything different.

    • VelvetMark

      You mean like in the article above where the dev state: “We’re not experts on the Xbox One, but I can tell you what my understanding is.” So a non expert wants to give you his understanding. Meanwhile it’s not like the PS4 devkit is standing still.

    • Truth™

      It’s even funnier when you have one of the champions of “MUH 7TH CORE WILL FIX EVERYTHING” delusional fantasists posting this

      Sonycucks say the funniest things 🙂

    • CC-Tron

      Speaking of Spenser. He’s a sly one with words. Ol’ Phil also downplayed the cloud compute used in Crackdown 3 until it was ready to be shown. The Crackdown 3 demo ended up being quite drastic…..’just sayin.

  • marc Berry

    “PDZ to Halo 4” We are at “PDZ”.

  • GHz

    I want to know how what the hold up with XB1 tile resources and why haven’t they implemented it in games yet…. Anyone? (._.)

    Death to all old school graphic engines. Death to DX11+. Death to deferred rendering & all hail Object Space Rendering. 😀

    • Mark

      Yup. Object Space Rendering for lighting and Temporal Anti-aliasing…it wouldn’t surprise me to find Quantum Break using this.

    • GHz

      I don’t know. Didn’t Quantum Break started life as a DX11+ game. OSR is way too demanding, even if QB crosses over to DX12. That’s just my take. Either way we both agree that the lighting in QB is some of the best we’ve seen to date. My body is ready 🙂

    • Mark

      Oh ok. Object Space Rendering could be as demanding as MSAA X8 or something hunh? Dam, but oh well.

      U know GHZ, seeing the bump in graphical fidelity in Qbreak, I just feel something happened thru midway developement. U don’t just put together a mind blowing demo one year, and turn the darn lighting and post processing effects up times 2, the next year, haha. A much stronger SDK has to be the culprit…I haven’t seen anything else doing what Qbreak’s doin. And never mind Scalebound, wow

    • GHz

      I’m saying before you start developing, you have to decide if you’re going the deferred rout, OSR route, forward route etc. These things depends on what it is you’re trying to accomplish in a game. You mentioned lighting before, and you MIGHT be on point. As of now deferred route is much more friendlier option for lighting because its less intensive on hardware, especially on the XB1 if its still under house arrest of DX11+. (Keep in mind though that 1st party games on XB1 are always testing something on that system, & attempt to push the system to its limits under Dx11+, like for example Forza Horizon 2, which surprisingly went the forward rendering route. Based on what the internet is telling us about the XB1, that game shouldn’t be running on that system, but it is. Remember how shocked Digital Foundry was when they found out Play Ground games went the forward route? I laughed when they were asking how? LOL) Test, test, test, code, code, code, solve, solve, solve. 😉

      OSR is really about pushing the over all look of a game towards ultra realism. But its expensive. Maybe you are right in your assumptions. I just doubt it cause I’m not sure how expensive OSR is. But on the other hand, XB1 handles an open world driving game using forward rendering and managed all sorts of lighting, and other FX @ 1080p/30fps locked. The world is full of surprises. 🙂

    • Mark

      Yeah I hear u, you obviously read up on Object Space Rendering more than me, so I’m all ears. Lemme ask u right, do u know if OSR is a step above Physical Based Rendering? I know PBR is used in Star Wars BF, and it helps objects look more natural with respect to light. But is OSR more advanced/more demanding per se? Perhaps there’s a blog I’ma check out.

    • GHz

      OSR probably more expensive cause its the method movies use for CGI. The thing with rendering is that it boils down to clever coding. For instance the Order 1886 uses forward rendering and that game looks phenomenal. So the motto is always, choose your rendering path based on what you want your game to show off. Each technique gives you a little something. So I couldn’t tell you if OSR is more advance than PBR.

      These days deferred rendering however isn’t all that because its inability to display heavy amounts of materials while handling complex lighting. Its great @ doing the latter though. With clever coding you can have both, just don’t use deferred rendering.

      With Dx12 main job being its ability to have every core on a multi-core CPU, directly accessing GPU simultaneously, devs can do things they couldn’t do before on console. OSR may be one of them. Otherwise it would require some brute force under Dx11. DX11 = one of your CPU cores could ONLY talk to the GPU at a time.

    • Mark

      Man good stuff, thx brodie

  • Tga215

    More click bait

  • Mr Xrat

    Xbox gimps still clinging to this pipe dream? We already dismissed it doing anything substantial for the Xbone and its lemon hardware long ago.

    • GHz

      That’s a retarded statement because no matter what, graphics and & performance on a console always increase for the better as developers get use to hardware. They learn tricks, code more efficient etc. This is the case since for ever in regards to gaming consoles. So it’s clear to everyone that it’s your fear & ignorance that dictates your state of mind. And oh yeah, have a fun time up voting yourself. LOL 😀

    • Gamez Rule

      You are correct about what you posted above but lets be honest the way this DX12 is being exposed to the public it’s made out to be the ultimate power update for Xbone ( like the special sauce people chatted about ages ago ) when in fact it’s not the ultimate power update at all.

      If anything it will be the PC improvements that gain from DX12 more than what takes place on Xbone, so people can look for technicalities with what I post but that’s just the way it is.

    • GHz

      “lets be honest the way this DX12 is being exposed to the public it’s made out to be the ultimate power update for Xbone”

      Blame that on pple massively exaggerating up or down the power of these consoles, on both the PS4 & XB1 side. Otherwise the narrative MSFT & AMD are sharing is clear & without exaggeration because in some cases they back it up with data. That’s when pple selective amnesia usually kick in. The greatest mistake most are doing right now is dismissing the 1st party games & what is it that they are trying to solve in making those games a specific way in DX11+. Code, code, code, code, code. I cant stress it enough.

      “If anything it will be the PC improvements that gain from DX12 more than what takes place on Xbone”

      What PC “improvements”? And are you saying that the XB1 don’t have these “improvements”?

      Otherwise what is true is that PC will have more to gain because PC has more powerful hardware period. But full access to ALL of DX12 related features will be shared across both XB1 & PC. What is also true is that DX12 will help XB1 in proportionate to XB1 strengths (whatever that means), because we’re pushing games like QB, Forza 6, Halo 5 under arrest of DX11+. Meaning the games are doing the talking. XB1 is saying, hey this is what I can do now w/o Dx12 & Tile Resources and w/o access to all of my feature sets.

    • Gamez Rule

      Yet the fact is DX12 has not been shown via games on Xbone yet. So until that time comes it’s all guess working on what it is meant to do OR should do for that console. DX12 offers huge advantages to virtually all PC owners more than what it would do on console/s. Everyone knows this, so the point is DX12 will not turn Xbone into a console that can match PS4 when it comes to gaming. It’s not a secret sauce lol

      DICE dev stated: “Xbone will always be behind the PS4 this generation because it isn’t as powerful” ….When asked if DirectX 12 could even the odds for Microsoft he replied…”I don’t think so, it’s not going to be able to reduce overhead enough to make up the margin”

      Who do we believe..devs or MS lol

    • GHz

      Listen to yourself. 1st you say, “DX12 has not been shown via games on Xbone yet. So until that time comes it’s all guess working.”

      And I agree with that statement.

      Then you turn around and dismiss 1st party games that are equivalent to or greater than Sony 1st party & all 3rd party games, and say this, ” the point is DX12 will not turn Xbone into a console that can match PS4 when it comes to gaming.” How is this fact when you just admitted its all guess work on the XB1+DX12 front?

      Then what is your definition of what it takes to match PS4 when it comes to gaming? We just saw Crackdown demo on XB1 & we’re being promised that experience on that platform. That game does things that even the most powerful PC cant.

    • Gamez Rule

      Devs from DICE as well as others stated what I showed, so like I posted… “Who do we believe..devs or MS lol”

      “DirectX 12 is projected as a game changer for the Xbox One and the next big tech in the gaming industry. However, ample number of industry professionals think that it will bring marginal improvements to the Xbox One console rather than a massive one”

    • GHz

      I’d go with Devs and there are always two sides, and I listen to both, which YOU DON’T DO.

    • Gamez Rule

      Oh I do go to both as i own PCs, MS consoles and Sony / Nintendo due to being a gamer, but going by past DX releases it didn’t turn a console into a supa sauce machine and devs with so many other industry professionals agree that DX12 will not be doing that for Xbone either..

    • GHz

      Nope you just listen to one narrative. Its evident. If a dev says I don’t THINK dx12 will help XB1, you guys translate “I THINK” to mean “The Fact Is.” That’s the exaggeration I’m talking about that litters the forums and confuses everyone.

      The fact is Devs share different opinions on the matter, with some saying DX12 probably wont help, while others say it will and close the power gap. While everyone agrees that PS4’s GPU/memory combo is beefier, devs also educate us that its not the full story, and that both systems are designed slightly different, that makes them pretty much even. Hence the reason while most(not all) 3rd party multiplats perform somewhat better on PS4, XB 1st party gamest tells you that games built specifically for XB1 overcome those issues. 2 sides of the story.

    • Gamez Rule

      So you don’t believe devs that make the games for consoles and PC alike when they stated DX12 WILL be marginal improvements to the Xbox One console rather than a massive one.. and you say I listen to one narrative…lmao! Ok lets do it this way.

      The truth is.. Once the Xbone gets the DX12 it will show everyone what it can and can’t do. ( you agree? )

      IF games using DX12 ( that’s working as it should be on Xbone ) are still made via a lower resolution, etc when compared to PS4 that means those devs were correct and you was wrong ( you agree? )

      IF the DX12 games are all out-putting the same resolution, etc on Xbone as PS4 is with no problems that means those devs were incorrect and I was wrong ( you agree? )

      We will both keep this convo in our fav-pages and see who is correct and who was wrong once that times comes ( agreed? )

    • GHz

      “So you don’t believe devs that make the games for consoles and PC alike when they stated DX12 WILL be marginal improvements to the Xbox One console rather than a massive one”

      For better or worse, when devs share there opinions, I listen, cause it MAY be the truth. Its good to not discard and instead take into consideration their POV. You have a hard time saying that some believe that DX12 will be a big improvement. Meanwhile I don’t have a hard time saying some devs believe that dx12 wont help XB1. I’m fine with that because I still get to play games like QB, Crackdown 3, Forza 6.

      Yup, we’ll see how things goes once games are being developed in dx12 game engines for XB1 & PC.

    • Gamez Rule

      So like I posted…”We will both keep this convo in our fav-pages and see who is correct and who was wrong once that times comes ( agreed? )”

    • GHz

      Agreed!

    • GHz

      In the meantime, I’ll just listen to the experts @ AMD. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/593d48c6273c82095fa12c9dd132abb5467d3b75b877738b4abf604497ff9a3a.jpg

      You don’t believe that AMD knows what they are talking about?

    • GHz

      “so people can look for technicalities with what I post”
      @gamezrule:disqus are you saying that you are also @mrxrat:disqus ?
      The life of a PS4 fanatic LOOOOOOL. They would do anything to misinform gamers. SMH -______- https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2794bcfb28515f12c9e346fa32579fcd1bf24b70d679493609627990cf0813f4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0602107cc7859e59e53171e241e7a51c7f7ec1a48af19ad45838a5d3ebca7f3.jpg

    • Triton

      Thats only 1 of his 20 accounts.

    • Gamez Rule

      Shows how much you know as that is NOT me lol…IF I wanted to troll I would do without needing another account or 20 ..☺

    • GHz

      We don’t believe you, you need more pple…Oh wait! Never mind. They’re all in your head. LOOOOL 😀

      Give it up dude, you’re busted! 😉

    • Gamez Rule

      LMAO!, You have problems if you think that I’m using another account when I’m not even trolling…lol. Like I said I don’t need another account as IF I has something to post I’ll just do it.☺

    • Truth™

      The funnier thing is the Sonycucks are still clinging onto “Muh 7th Core”, “Muh Async Compute” despite their trash hardware wheezing and choking trying to run anything with graphical standards from 2012 as well.

      Poor rscottycuck on constant damage control and suicide watch lately. It would be easier if he ended it all because it’s not going to get any better for the 900POS 4 🙂

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93c2d6fa5e10401fdc633296fcf41f0d42ab23ee25998fcc41570af553bcbb71.jpg

  • Xbox one 2econd gpu unlocking

    We will be asking for some future DX12 games to be at 900p only to prove resolution is not a problem.
    And we game on. +12

    • This Guy

      As long as the framerate is good.

  • Truth™

    Reminder that the only platform getting the full benefit of DX 12 will be PC

  • Gamez Rule

    Anyone heard about the Xbone code 0X87DE0017?

    “So it appears that in an unfortunate turn of events the much beloved digital copies of games and various apps on Xbox One are all but useless this morning due to error code 0X87DE0017”

    People are saying they can’t play anything that’s digital?

    http://www.xboxoneuk.com/xbox-one/news/security-certificate-breach-causing-xbox-problems-aplenty/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox/comments/3w772v/xbox_one_error_code_0x87de0017/

    http://www.gamepur.com/news/21456-xbox-live-down-now-dec-10-xbox-one-owners-report-error-code-0x87de0017-cant.html

    Been going on for months to

    http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbox_error_codes/f/4753/p/1988464/5514038.aspx

    • This Guy

      Had mine since May 2014 and have never experienced this issue.

  • Dirkster_Dude

    So the answer to the question of whether DX12 can be a benefit to the X-Box One is YES. I remember all the naysayers that it wouldn’t benefit at all.

    • J.j. Barrington

      No you don’t. You remember all the naysayers saying it wouldn’t be a big benefit, since its largest gain would be in things already done on console.

    • Dirkster_Dude

      I think will stick with what I think and not what you think I said. Thank you for thinking for me though.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Memory is a fickle thing. It often changes to suit what we WANT to remember, or makes things up to fill in the gaps.

    • Dirkster_Dude

      I think I will agree to disagree or maybe you have Alzheimer’s?

    • J.j. Barrington

      No. Just- apparently- more knowledgeable on the subject.

    • Dirkster_Dude

      Apparently not.

  • JerkDaNERD7

    I think Sony fanboys care more or are more offended by this. Just scroll down and it’s dominated by very unhappy people which this might NEVER effect them. smh

    • J.j. Barrington

      Who’s unhappy?

    • Gamez Rule

      Well it made my day having a good old read on here ☺☺☺

  • Ed

    When is DirectX 12 coming to the Xbox One? I thought it launch with the New Xbox Experience update?

    • chaaka_boom

      Fable is the 1st Dx12 game that we know of. It was supposed to be holiday 2015 but I have my doubts. Early 2016 likely.

    • GHz

      “Fable is the 1st Dx12 game that we know of”
      Keep in mind that its not full DX12. But its a good start. 🙂

    • chaaka_boom

      Didn’t know that. Do you know the if MS’ coming beauties are full Dx12 ?

    • GHz

      Until MSFT come out n say “this is our 1st game, built from the ground up with a DX12 engine for XB1, ” we wont know which games are. They are in “lets solve the performance issue mode” right now, and are already using other gaming technologies to get games to behave more advance. Crackdown is a great example of this.

  • chaaka_boom

    Considering that battlefront is the best looking game on either console…and its low resolution on both consoles…..native resolution is next to meaningless in terms of graphical fidelity on consoles. Xbox one is outperforming ps4 and the 1st batch of dx12 games is still in development. Fallout 4…best on Xbox one. Halo 5 and Forza 6 are locked at 60fps while ps4 has yet to have a 60fps game locked. Dx12 and cloud processing are next Gen….and ps4 cant handle either. Ps4 is a last Gen indiebox for worthless Indies like 100 foot robot golf and Japanigayness like Ni nu kuukeku.

  • Mark

    Actually Mike Ybarra mentioned the X1 getting “substantial optimization benefits from DX12”, in TIC’s recent interview on their podcast. If Phil says “Expect PDZ to Halo 4”, that’s good enough for me slime. And ultimately, seeing how beautiful Qbreak and Scalebound looks, on that scale of gameplay, I’m betting our exclusives are getting more substantial upgrades from DirectX12 features in new kits. Case in point, Rise of the Tomb Raider is the first game on the X1 to use A-sync compute for lighting, and wow, it’s more jaw dropping than Ryse imo, all in glorious 1080p lol.

    • This Guy

      I still play Ryse to this day and still I’m blown away by it’s visuals. To imagine what it might’ve looked like if it was developed today.

    • Mark

      Yup, and that was before devs was given the GPU reserve for Kinect….let’s ask Phil for a Ryse remaster! Haha

    • This Guy

      Bahahaha, can you imagine? I all seriousness who owns the rights to that game now that Crytek is gone? Maybe a graphical patch for a higher framerate? Don’t change the res, just up it from 30FPS to 60.

    • Mark

      I think Crytek was absorbed by Deep Silver, so they should still be around. They’re indeed thee graphic gods. If only Phil could negotiate a Ryse 2. With DirectX12, that thing would achieve CGI.

    • GHz
    • Mark

      Bang

  • Jeffrey Byers

    Misleading article title. To recap:
    1) “has potential…”
    2) “may help fps…”
    3) “we’re not experts on the XBox one..”
    4) “it will take people a few years…”

    *So basically the title reads as if “substantial” improvements might be coming despite Microsoft warning us not to get too excited as the existing API is already fairly low level.

    It feels like this was written to encourage the sale of XBOX ONE consoles.

    It would have been fine if they stuck with PC.

    (on a lighter note I do think we’ll see large boosts in performance on console but largely due to improvements in the game engine. Dynamic resource allocation, more efficient anti-aliasing, and other things will in the end add up to some substantial improvements so in the end I expect to see The Order 1866 graphics at 1080p/60FPS by 2020… or put another way between 2X and 3X FPS performance for similar graphics experience four years out…

    Before you flame me, note that in many games they are being conservative for console parity, or capping at 30FPS despite an average of over 40FPS due to using VSYNC… so again, drop to 900p occasionally, more efficient code, and dynamically adjust other features and we can really make noticeable improvements.

    After that, let’s have the following consoles be FULLY hardware compatible, bring forward our entire game catalogue, and hopefully by then we’ll have asynchronous, 4K, OLED HDTV’s!!)


 

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