Microsoft And Sony Will Eventually Release iPhone Like Hardware Upgrades Every Year Or So- Stardock CEO

“I think, all the guys will end up releasing just a early or bi-yearly upgrades to these things, like the iPhone.”

Posted By | On 22nd, Mar. 2017 Under News | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


The PS4 Pro is a far more moderate upgrade over the existing PS4 than the Xbox One Scorpio is over the standard Xbox One. The result is a machine that, while extremely well designed, and the most powerful console currently on the market, is still decidedly a half step towards the goal of 4K gaming that it wants to achieve- the system is, essentially, too weak to render most of its games natively in 4K, so it resorts to techniques like Checkerboard rendering instead.

Would, then, Sony have been better advised to simply wait an extra year and release a more capable machine? When GamingBolt got the chance to talk to Brad Wardell, the CEO of Stardock, a company on the cutting edge known for pushing graphics and technology, we decided to ask him this question. His opinion? 4K took off far faster than Sony may have expected- and in the end, it might not matter, since he believes Sony and Microsoft are about to enter an era of continuous rolling hardware upgrades.

“I don’t know. I think 4K is becoming pretty common now, but I think when they were starting out, I don’t think any of us expected it to take off quite as much as it did,” he said. “On the other hand, there’s still quite a lot of exciting things waiting- HDR is going to be a big deal. So that’s another thing these guys will all want to support via upgrades in their hardware (and by the way, Nitrous Engine supports HDR, I think we’re the only ones who do). And that’s- it creates a pretty tremendous visual difference. I don’t think that many people have HDR yet, though. So give it another year or two… I think, all the guys will end up releasing just a early or bi-yearly upgrades to these things,  like the iPhone, and they’ll all going to end up following the iPhone model, where you must have at least this model for it to work.”

Rolling hardware upgrades is something that we have speculated might be happening for a very long time now– and while Microsoft certainly seems to be hinting at that via its rhetoric, Sony so far has been far more reticent to commit to the idea, saying that a proper PS5 may yet come.

Stay tuned for our full interview with Brad in the coming days.


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  • Holeybartender

    What is with these people? They must still be hanging on the hope that game consoles are dead,which would ultimately be the outcome if they release a PlayStation or Xbox every year.Screw you if you think gamers are going to shell out $400 a year on a console. We already hate having to update our ‘half-ass finished, patch it later’ games with the latest patch just to play them,you really think we want to upgrade a console every year to play the latest ‘half-ass finished,upgrade it later’ console?

    • Mark

      I hear u

  • Psionicinversion

    never going happen. mobile phones only release every year because people are always coming out of and going into phone contracts majoritively every 2 years and phones dont rely on software that takes on average 5 years to make.

    new PC hardware generally releases every year for the same reason some one somewhere is looking to upgrade. consoles are different software is catered for it and benefit more as a low changing longer term piece of kit. and because they need to spend ton of money upgrading the console and by them selling it with nearly 0 profit attached the games sales will become less and less viable. Then youve got storage space to store all the different models, devs already moaned about doing games for 2 consoles like the ps4 and pro, what if they have to support 5 different consoles or even 10 if you take playstation and xbox, if a 5 year game with a yearly release schedule. It’d be bad for them.

  • Luke Skywalker

    that doesn’t make any sense.

  • LDS

    That’s BS. Selling console hardware alone doesn’t make much profit and many times they even sell consoles at a loss. It’s all about focusing on a few hardware and expanding the install base to have people spend money on buying more games and subscription.

    So why would they be wasting money on making new console every year that will only drive more cost on R&D and make older hardware even more obsolete after only a year of its release? It will do them no good.

  • J.j. Barrington

    Wow, Pramath. Still taking those shots at Sony, huh? It’s like you can’t help yourself.

    • chaz

      I wish someone would finally decide once and for all if I am biased against Microsoft or biased against Sony. As it is, I’m told something else in the comments section of every article, and it tends to get confusing trying to keep up.

    • Riggybro

      Hey! Stop picking on Nintendo!

    • J.j. Barrington

      You can be biased against both.

      I don’t tend to visit the site much, largely because the articles are clickbait, and certain authors like you- assuming you’re Pramath- just can’t help but leave any sort of professionalism at the door.

      That said, I can pretty well tell when it’s an article you’ve written before the first paragraph is over.

      If people call you out as being biased against Xbox as well, maybe you should examine the way you put together your articles. Maybe you’re just not cut out for this job.

    • bardock5151

      It’s called being critical. Being biased generally indicates you’ve taken a side, much like you have with Sony. But it’s fun to watch you descend yet again into pointless and flaccid insults.

    • Riggybro

      The types of articles you refer to are written as opinion pieces or editorials.

      It’s someone taking some facts or events then philosophising, taking an idea or theory and arguing to a conclusion (“elaborating”). This causes people to debate down here in the comments section.

      It sounds like it is probably not your thing. So fair enough that you will stop visiting here.

      I quite like reading multiple sites collecting all the different opinions then coming to my own conclusions.

    • Mark

      This this

    • chaz

      This- it really sounds like what he wants is a PR mouthpiece, not any commentary on the state of the industry.

    • J.j. Barrington

      But this is a “news” piece. Not an opinion piece. Not an editorial.

      And there’s no place for setting your opinion up as fact ANYWHERE in ANY facet of journalism. That’s something Pramath has done regularly.

    • Riggybro

      I’m sorry… but all journalism has elements of opinion and framing. It has been discussed for decades and decades. It’s very widely known. Hence why people should read a wide selection of competing ideas before making up their OWN mind and be reasoned human beings.

      You seem to be trying to draw us into the “fake news” argument here. We are NOT discussing black and white truth/lies here. We are discussing opinions. Fox and CNN both frame their stories with opinions- it is when they tell a complete untruth based on nothing that they get into trouble. And there have been instances of this in the past.

      If Xbox Phil is securing more JRPGs for Xbox – that is a fact.

      If Xbox Phil is securing more JRPGs for Xbox because he thinks they are worthless and needs them to prop up his coffee table. That is false.

      If Xbox Phil is securing more JRPGs for Xbox because there is not enough diversity in Xbox games – that is an opinion derived from a fact. Not a “fake” opinion. If you think it is wrong then argue/debate against it. Compare evidence.

      You seem to be under the belief that there exists in the world a “correct opinion” – well that is incredible. You have effectively discovered the meaning of life and ended centuries of Philosophy. Congratulations.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “If Xbox Phil is securing more JRPGs for Xbox because there is not enough diversity in Xbox games – that is an opinion derived from a fact.”

      That’s measurable, so it wouldn’t be an opinion. You can quantify the number of games on a console, and tally up where they fit in each genre; determining a lack of variety isn’t an opinion, in that case.

      “You seem to be under the belief that there exists in the world a “correct opinion” – well that is incredible.”

      You seem to be prone to telling people what their opinions are, all while being incredibly off at interpreting what’s being said. Probably not the best person to be talking about opinions.

    • Riggybro

      Wow, J.j Barrington . Still taking those shots at Riggybro, huh? It’s like you can’t help yourself.

      We have now come full circle.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Look, sure. Because I’ve been taking shots at you for who knows how long, right?

      Besides, for it to be full circle, wouldn’t you have to be pramath? Or, failing that, wouldn’t he have to be saying that to me?

      Forcing something into the conversation where it doesn’t fit does not form a circle, nor does it help your case.

      Cute, though.

    • chaz

      So if I am biased against both, then by definition I have no bias, and I’m just critical. You’re telling me, as a journalist, to not be critical? What you want is a PR mouthpiece, not a journalist. I suppose you should head on over to the PS Blog/Major Nelson’s blog if you want those- I’m going to continue calling companies out when they go wrong, and praise them when they go right. If the criticism of a corporation is too much for you to handle, then maybe you are just not cut out for my articles.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hey, approve the comments and respond.

    • Mark

      Imo Chaz, Pramath and u guys take shots at both companies….this site is far from leaning one way to the likes of DualShockers, ahaha. I disagree with some of these opinionated articles, but the criticism is spread around, keep it up

    • chaz

      It’s fine to disagree! If all of us shared the same opinions, this would be a very boring world indeed 🙂
      I suppose for me the important thing is, when you disagree with me, did I at least make you think about *why* you disagreed with me? If I did, I think I did my job, regardless of where you ended up

    • Mark

      Funny thing is you’re right, when I post something to counter GamingBolt’s opinion, usually my initial argument opens the door to ideas I haven’t thought of related to the topic, and they either strengthen my stance or kills it. Lol. Good point

    • crazy_black_man-

      I will give you credit for not threatening to ban everybody who dares to pose a strong argument against like you that arrogant A-hole editor at Dualshockers, who by the way, is NEVER wrong, and tries to defend everything that lying Phil Spinner says, because they “talk’ from time to time.

    • Mark

      I’ve seen Guiseppu moderate against clean arguments, all the while letting trolls roam free on those same articles…I had to leave that place

    • Psionicinversion

      if your talking about Guisseppe Nelva hes the biggest sony fanboi of all time. Bigger than any of you, when i used to frequent the place a couple years ago you could trash talk xbox all you want but you said anything bad about sony youd get banned. Also its funny cus he loves star citizen so whenever he did an article about that hed be called a pc fanboy and console hater lol you guys are tarded

    • Gamez Rule

      “I wish someone would finally decide once and for all if I am biased against Microsoft or biased against Sony”

      Mate you’ll never win no matter what you do. Funny thing is at least people come here to read and comment, so I say carry on the best you can.

    • Direct-XbotMK1 Elite

      I learned a long time ago that Pramath is a click bait journalist.

      Some of the stuff he writes makes sense and other things he writes are contradictory, false. His news reports and interviews are usually littered with his opinions which he disguises or presents as facts and aren’t necessary to the news he is reporting.

      For example, this quote from this article:

      “The PS4 Pro is a far more moderate upgrade over the existing PS4 than the Xbox One Scorpio is over the standard Xbox One. The result is a machine that, while extremely well designed, and the most powerful console currently on the market, is still decidedly a half step towards the goal of 4K gaming that it wants to achieve- the system is, essentially, too weak to render most of its games natively in 4K, so it resorts to techniques like Checkerboard rendering instead.”

      This quote was his opinion but it added nothing to the interview and was completely unecessary but he included it anyway for the sake of controversy.

  • Riggybro

    No way man,
    Consoles/gaming is moving to subscription + streaming service.

    PSnow and the power of the cloud is the first step.

    • Holeybartender

      Unless they have a free upgrade on consoles when you extend your service plan then no,no gamer will go for this.

    • Psionicinversion

      PS Now is garbage. it wont replace local hardware for a very long time, even the hardest playstation fanbois think psnow is garbage and thats saying something. theres to many factors to even get it over the initial hurdle. Not everyone in the world has internet good enough, you got data caps, connection latency, you need extremely good network path prediction (thats when the server pre renders multiple ways you could go then sends you the one you go instantly but if you choose one that it hasnt predicted it has to render like normal). The cloud can have as much power as it can muster but if your connection is trash then youll always have a trash experience. not to mention the compression making everything look rubbish

  • Eddie Battikha

    2 to 3 year Hardware refresh cycles are gonna be the norm. I’ll easily trade in my system every 2 to 3 years as Sony and Microsoft know this way technology won’t be held back and evolution will continue.

    • Mark

      !!!

  • Direct-XbotMK1 Elite

    I doubt it because that would be an annoyance to developers.

    Eventually you have to release a new gen console with a new CPU, GPU and RAM unless you want games to stagnate.

    I wouldn’t put much faith into Brad Wardell’s garbage. This is the same guy who was overhyping DX12. He admitted he isn’t even a console dev which creates doubts about his sincerity and accuracy of his claims. Honestly he seems like a Microsoft shill or loyalist with a pro Microsoft or pro PC agenda.

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    • Psionicinversion

      are you completely dumb or something? DX12 can be run on X1 S you fool and the original X1. the only difference being as you move up the generations of hardware it introduces newer features older hardware doesnt have. Devs will use DX12 anyway seeing as it isnt really any different from the console version of dx11. Both are low level languages so both require the same amount of time anyway its just dx12 is newer. even shader model 6 should be able to run on polaris and maybe original xbox just depends if it has any specific requirements in hardware to utilise it.

      your just a pathetic troll that doesnt have the slightest clue about anything so why dont you be a good boy and stfu

      actually the GPU in the Pro is quite different to the original PS4 but features can be easily turned off for the original PS4, how do you think devs get on with PC.

  • heima

    “Rolling hardware upgrades is something that we have speculated might be happening for a very long time now–
    and while Microsoft certainly seems to be hinting at that via its
    rhetoric, Sony so far has been far more reticent to commit to the idea, saying that a proper PS5 may yet come.”

    I don’t get this. It’s like the Ps4 Pro never happened, according to the author.

    Anyway, if this is the future of console gaming, I’d rather be focusing on different hobbies. Consoles’ only purpose is to grant the player to just play if said player is one of those who don’t want to dedicate too much time with system requirements, CPU, GPU and the likes.

  • bardock5151

    Lol, I’ve had similar discussions with him myself.

    But I agree, Gamingbolts articles definitely aren’t the worst out there.

  • Mr Xrat

    LOL Brad Wardell, there’s a blast from the past. I remember when Xgimps clung to him for their DX12 delusion.

    I doubt this’ll happen, R&D costs will be too high and people will get fatigued over having to constantly buy new hardware.

  • Mark Webster

    NOT A CHANCE, phones and consoles are very different things and gamers will not buy enough of these things to make it worthwhile to release yearly or bi annual consoles. Original release/slim and .5 upgrade are more than enough for single generations.


 

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