Jonathan Blow Criticizes Xbox One’s Kinect, Terms Its Auto Detection Capabilities As ‘Janky’

The Witness developer shares his thoughts on all things automated, Xbox One’s Kinect included.

Posted By | On 21st, Nov. 2013 Under News


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Jonathan Blow has been critical of Microsoft’s Xbox One in the past, starting with the Cloud computing ability of the console. Now, The Witness creator is questioning the auto-detection ability of Kinect – in reference to the video released of how many people the motion camera is capable of detecting.


Blow isn’t attempting to single out Microsoft however. He states that iOS’s auto-correction and voice recognition capabilities are “in the same ballpark”.


And no, he’s not trying to be biased. As one user calls him a “Sony dev”, Blow states that:

 


He also states that he’s commenting on the technical issues of the device more than anything and not “console warring”.


On being asked to consider where he got his start – which is in reference to Blow’s first major indie title Braid being exclusive to Xbox Live Arcade – Blow simply replied that:


However, he then talks in somewhat cryptic tones about “non-working or life-complicating products” and the backlash to follow from it.


Is that in reference to the Xbox One? Hard to say. The console will be launching tomorrow and will truly mark the beginning of the new console war. What are your thoughts on Blow’s opinions? Let us know below.


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  • Gamer First

    He’s exactly right. I guarantee within a weeks time every single owner of Xbox will revert back to using the controller. Waving your arms, yelling at your TV is NOT any easier and it’s frustratingly inaccurate. It was a fun gimmick on Wii, it’s a fun gimmick on Xbox.

    • Jason Andrew Hahn

      I don’t think you’re wrong however the worst i’ve seen from reviews is 3 weeks of use and you have about a 90% success rate with voice commands but even if the system fucks up once, it’s to much…… However these commands will only get more effective with time, so keep saying gimmick , the kinect has gone beyond that. I’m sure you have seen what other industries are taking the technology and are trying to do with it

    • DarthDiggler

      @jasonandrewhahn:disqus

      You know I am kind of sick of gamers waiting on the big thing from Kinect and Motion Gaming in general. There are distinct problems with motion gaming that we do not have the technology to rectify so it is up to individual developers how to deal with the issues. While Nintendo and Microsoft have opted to force these things upon you (more with the Wii than the Wii U and more with the XBONE than the X360) Sony has opted to keep these features optional.

      Motion gaming doesn’t properly deal with the disconnects between reality and the game. When you swing a sword in real life it stops when it hits something, when you swing a sword in a game there is no way to make it stop in reality. So the developer has a disconnect between the gamer and the character in the game. That animation desync really makes it impossible to do anything with motion controls exclusively that would resemble something that we have become accustomed to with a controller.

      So we being at this motion gaming thing for years now, beyond exercise, Zelda and Mario there really hasn’t been many huge wins in the motion gaming department. So far there hasn’t been anything done with motion gaming you can’t replicate with a controller.

      Sure Kinect has some great new bells and whistles, but if it was going to usher in a new era of motion gaming why did Ryse turn into a game that was largely controller based? Are you suggesting that Crytek didn’t have the talent or innovation to make it happen as a Kinect Only title (originally called Kingdoms)?

      My uncle had a saying that is very appropriate for motion gaming. Hold out 2 hands, hope in 1 hand and crap in the other, tell me which one fills up first. 🙂

    • Jason Andrew Hahn

      Fuck motion gaming, I never said motion gaming. If I can give voice commands and use face expressions through the kinect in game that’s enough for me, As long as the fitness applications keep track without a hitch then bam, perfect for me. I wasn’t talking about motion gaming. I’m talking about what other industries such as the hospitals playing with the kinect to better communicate with deaf and mutes, the auto industry has already took this tool and started to figure out how to apply uses and theres plenty of vids of the tech geeks making miraculous things happen with it.

      The kinect is already a net positive to society, if motion gaming improves as a result of the regular joe being able to play with sophisticated technology so be it. Then you and your uncle can kick rocks, pretty foolish to make such a prediction at the start of a new generation …besides me not caring about motion gaming I absolutely believe your wrong *for the record*

    • DarthDiggler

      @jasonandrewhahn:disqus

      I was going by your comment, and I quote…

      so keep saying gimmick , the kinect has gone beyond that

      If you are talking about just voice commands you don’t need Kinect for that. So are we talking about Kinect or Voice Commands?

      use face expressions through the kinect in game that’s enough for me

      There must be literally 3 maybe 4 games that will support this feature. 🙂

      As long as the fitness applications keep track without a hitch then bam, perfect for me.

      Kinect is a good fit for fitness apps, but I hear that Sony’s new camera will track just about as well. I hear the new dance and fitness games will not require move.

      I’m talking about what other industries such as the hospitals playing with the kinect to better communicate with deaf and mutes, the auto industry has already took this tool and started to figure out how to apply uses

      It sounds like these features left quite an impression on you. You can’t even seem to recall what exactly Kinect is doing in these applications. 🙂

      On one hand this is great new fascinating tech on the other hand it seems largely forgettable. 🙂 LOL

      theres plenty of vids of the tech geeks making miraculous things happen with it.

      Yeah but most of that was for Kinect 1 when it came out 3 years ago or so? I hadn’t seen any news stories about it since than. I suspect most of that PR was buttressed by Microsoft to help sell the unit.

      The kinect is already a net positive to society, if motion gaming improves as a result of the regular joe being able to play with sophisticated technology so be it.

      I am not saying that there isn’t a good application for Motion/Facial interpretation, I just feel right now where technology is, there are far too many things that prevent it from being a primary control scheme for hard core games. As I noted before (animation disconnects) which you immediately changed your tune and focused on the voice command aspects (which only require a mic).

      Then you and your uncle can kick rocks, pretty foolish to make such a prediction at the start of a new generation …besides me not caring about motion gaming I absolutely believe your wrong *for the record*

      Hey it was my Uncle’s saying and considering motion gaming has been here since the Wii, I would say that the saying is 100% appropriate. I mean even Nintendo has relaxed from it’s motion high and deliver a console with a normal controller. Third party devs made that a requirement. MS including Kinect with every XBONE is saying it is essential to your XBONE experience. Something that is included should work for everyone 100% of the time, if it does not that item should likely be an option. None of this stuff is flawless, not saying MS hasn’t done a great job, but they still haven’t demonstrated any reason that every XBONE customer HAS to absolutely HAVE this device. Everything they have shown can be boiled down to a gimmick. Sure voice controls are cool, but you can do stuff faster with your controller, hence it is a gimmick. A very well polished gimmick, but gimmick none the less.

      I say this as a guy that owns the PS Camera, and I freely admit that it’s a gimmick. I am just being honest with myself and not placing tons of hope in a technology that for gaming applications has largely been unproven as a full time replacement for the controller.

    • Jason Andrew Hahn

      1. It’s beyond Gimmicks when other industries start adapting the same tool for their own use, to make improvements in said fields. (You “quoted” my statement but made your own interpretation of it) , do your own homework, besides the specific example with the deaf I gave you (using the kinect 2, good try) I figured you could go as far to google the rest to learn what others are doing with it.

      Kinect2 has been out for a very short period of time and it’s already made a big impression, I’m sure we will see big things by others soon enough much further than just games, especially since Microsoft has had no choice but to support those tinkering with their kinect. To ignore this and try to compare the Sony eye to the Kinect 2, I have to assume your ignorant or fan boy blinded?

      As far as the facial expressions go, who knows how many games, counting on Project Spark to help other developers realize the potential then we’ll go from there better then never having it all (ps4).

      As far as gimmicks go, I’m very happy that every one of the Xboxones will come with this “Gimmick”. In the first couple of years can you imagine the difference between the amount of applications for the Kinect compared to the eye, simply because everybody with an Xbox has a Kinect? I believe everybody knows it’s going to have it’s flaws at first, but once they get past that, going to be an amazing accessory one that even 3rd parties are ALREADY utilizing.

      Hey worst comes to worst and the kinect does suck then my consoles will be the same with different exclusives, if not then I’ll have 1 console that can do stuff the other console can’t 😛

  • Mike Greenway

    I don’t believe a word he says.

    • KuchikiSentou

      Your ingenuousness is so cute

    • DarthDiggler

      It was only comment bait to extremely ignorant and illiterate Xbox fanboys. He wasn’t trying to trash Kinect, he was trying to comment on the sub-par nature of voice interpretation.

  • Jason Andrew Hahn

    Blow doesn’t get punched nearly enough, He’s like Meg, should never speak annoying as shit to listen to.

    • DarthDiggler

      I don’t hear much of what Johnathan Blow says, but I can’t really disagree with him here. Feel free to read my longer post below for an explanation. There is inherit problems with interpreting voice and movements.

  • IVanSpinal

    Kinect2+Ebay= Some dollars
    😉

    • ShowanW

      YOU WON’T MAKE A DIME…. There’s one in every BOX… Everyone who get’s a One will have a Kinect…

      Unless you are praying that people break their Kinect’s and have a standby unit in place…. Which would also be dumb… Considering, once you set it up, you really don’t plan on moving it again…

    • DarthDiggler

      Actually developers would love just the Kinect itself. So far MS hasn’t released that package. I bet it would fetch a good penny.

    • ShowanW

      Microsoft is milking the Kinect… There will be a separate PC version of Kinect. Which cost more $$$ and I believe will have it’s own driver system, that differs from the One version of Kinect.

  • John Titus

    This guy is a whining bitch. Shut up Blow. Reviews are out and it’s getting better scores than they others. I’ve seen the auto-detection first hand and it worked flawlessly.

    • DarthDiggler

      There are issues with this tech and in many ways it can get in the way of the user and the capabilities of the system. It’s not flawless if it was the reviews for the XBONE would echo that, they are not.

  • stamps79

    Every time he speaks, it Blows.

    • DarthDiggler

      Ingenious remark man. You stay up all night thinking of that one? 🙂

  • Jason Brody

    He was right for the most part. Xbox one’s voice commands are in the same ballpark as Siri.

  • spideynut71

    Oh look, little Johnny Blow-hard rears his bitter head again. This guy is one of the biggest anti-MS trolls on the planet.

    • DarthDiggler

      So a guy that releases his first Console game on Xbox 360 (with like 14 months of exclusivity) is now an anti-Xbox troll because he is using the Kinect as an example of technology that he feels is inferior.

      Obviously you didn’t even read the article past the headline.

    • spideynut71

      Obviously YOU haven’t read any of his past comments/Tweets in the past few years.

    • DarthDiggler

      I don’t make it a point to frequent his twitter, I have read some of his stuff in the past, but I am saying I don’t disagree with what he is saying here.

      Your comment demonstrates that you didn’t even read THIS article, but yet that didn’t stop you from being qualified to have an ignorant opinion of this.

      Blow explains his position in the console wars. He is an indie dev, I am sure Sony offered him a position (like they did with ThatGameCompany), but obviously he likes his autonomy.

      Just accusing this guy of being Pro-Sony is flat out stupid. Some of his issues with MS were purely the way MS managed their relationships with indie developers.

      MS and Sony do things differently, they each have strengths and weaknesses. I am a big fan of PlayStation but I am not blind to the fact that MS overall has much better software. That competition has driven Sony to do better. Sony offers much better value with PS+, that has prompted MS to deliver more value with XBL. Sony is great with indie developers and if indie developers remark on how nice their experience is with Sony vs. MS it is because that is one area of weakness (relative) to Sony.

      Now go ahead and call me a fanboy. You will only erode your own credibility.

    • spideynut71

      Um…I NEVER said he was “Pro-Sony”. I said he’s “anti-MS”. Learn the difference, learn to read, and don’t be a hypocrite. Everything else you posted was a waste of bandwidth and time.

    • DarthDiggler

      @THWIP71:disqus

      Pro Sony / Anti MS what is really the difference you are splitting hairs. Why don’t you address what I said and not just cherry pick your arguments?

      The only thing that is a waste of time is any money invested in your education, you should really get a refund.

    • spideynut71

      Well, that was my fvcking point, dumbass. If you DON’T know the difference between the two, then clearly you are a moron. If someone is anti-Catholicism, that doesn’t make them an atheist, or pro-Jew/pro-Baptist/pro-(pick-a-denomination). Likewise, if someone is anti-McDonald’s, it doesn’t make them, by default, pro-Burger King or pro-Wendy’s.

      BTW, I don’t NEED a refund on my education, because I was on scholarship…but it would seem you never got one AT ALL.

  • Rosendo Campos

    lol hes been making games since 1996 yet i only heard of him when he released his game on xbox 360

    • DarthDiggler

      Do you think talented developers just fall out of a tree? They have to hone their craft over years. Instead of proclaiming your ignorance with pride, why don’t you take a moment to learn where the guy came from.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Blow

      http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,188969/

    • Rosendo Campos

      Ignorance with pride i think that might be you. All im saying is that i personally never herd about him until he release his game braid on Xbox live.


 

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