The Last of Us Part 2 And PS4’s Strong 1st/3rd Party Support Are Sony’s Trump Card Against The Scorpio

It all comes back to one thing: Show me the games.

Posted By | On 18th, Apr. 2017 Under Article, Editorials | Follow This Author @Pramath1605


The Xbox One Scorpio is a far more powerful machine than the PS4 Pro– we know that, the specs make it clear, and the numbers do not lie. But in the end, any machine is as great as the games on it- this isn’t just some philosophical musing made to compensate for a lack of hardware pizzaz, it is true in a very real sense. You could have a very capable machine, but unless you have a game made specifically to plumb and exploit its resources, those resources don’t matter.

Simply put- the Scorpio will have loads of great looking games, and most multiplats will definitely look better on it than they will on the PS4 or PS4 Pro. Heck, even recent Xbox One games like Gears of War 4 or older ones like Halo 5 will look much better in potentially full native 4K resolution. There is no question about that, and that is just how things are. However, in the end, the lack of the PS4 Pro’s or even the base PS4’s power is unlikely to be be as much of a detriment to Sony as you might think- because Sony has an army of talented in house and third party developers who are capable of creating some of the best games on the market. This is not to say Microsoft doesn’t have or lacks the talent…but the developer support on Sony’s machine is ridiculously unbelievable at this point.

"The PS4 has already seen exclusives (including console exclusives) like Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier: Automata, Persona 5 and others in just the first four months of 2017."

Look, the PS4’s power was definitely a factor in its success- anyone who tells you otherwise is being disingenuous. However, ultimately, the PS4 sold as much as it did because of its fantastic games lineup. People who say exclusives don’t matter are wrong- one only needs to look at the vast sales gulf between the PS4 (which has some incredible, high rated, high selling exclusives) and the Xbox One to see the difference. Xbox fans alone can see the difference- the Xbox 360 had a lot of great exclusives (this includes some great Japanese games as well), and it sold really well. The Xbox One does not, and look at how it trails behind its competition in the market. The PS4 has already seen exclusives (including console exclusives) like Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier: Automata, Persona 5 and others in just the first four months of 2017.

Microsoft once again suffers in this area because of its persistent lack of investment in a first party of its own- it has very few developers that can put out bona fide system sellers at this point. Halo, Gears of War, and Forza are all great and are amazing franchises- but there have been a couple of each on Xbox One already. If you haven’t already bought an Xbox for Halo 5, Gears of War 4, or Forza 6, a potential Halo 6, Gears 5, or Forza 7 are unlikely to change your mind. Of course, there are some great games coming out for the Xbox One such as Crackdown 3, Cuphead, State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves but one look at what’s coming on the PS4 in the future, the picture becomes crystal clear.

"Personally, I would love to see them go ahead and support their already established franchises, introduce new services and features but at the same time, I would like them to announce some big partnerships with Western and Japanese developers."

And therein lies Sony’s true trump card against the Scorpio- its lineup of appealing exclusives which will serve to neutralize the threat of the Scorpio. Consider for example, The Last of Us Part 2. The game, which will be Naughty Dog’s newest, is going to be the successor to one of the highest rated games of all time, and one of Sony’s highest selling ones, ever. The Last of Us 2 will most likely be a show stopper in a way unlike any game out there. Naughty Dog, much like the The Coalition (the developers behind the amazing Gears of War 4) will ensure that they will fully utilize the power of the Pro, whilst making sure that the base PS4 doesn’t fall behind. It, and other first party showcase games like it, such as God of War, are going to be what help Sony keep the lead even in the face of a far more powerful Xbox Scorpio. Furthermore, there are still a ton of upcoming 1st and 3rd party PS4 exclusive games (including console exclusives) coming up like Detroit: Become Human, Gran Turismo Sport, Death Stranding, Spider-Man, Shenmue 3, Final Fantasy 7 Remake…all of which can possibly release before the end of 2018. This obviously doesn’t consider any new annoucements Sony makes during this year’s E3.

Microsoft have promised that this year’s E3 will be all about the games for them. Personally, I would love to see them go ahead and support their already established franchises, introduce new services and features  (this is one area where Microsoft is doing some seriously amazing work but we will talk about it some other day) but at the same time, I would like them to announce some big partnerships with Western and Japanese developers (Scalebound and Fable Legends could have really made that line-up for 2017 sweeter but unfortunately both were canceled).

"2017 so far has seen only Sony and to an extent Nintendo benefitting from some great games and development support, and now the onus is on Microsoft to ensure that Team Xbox doesn’t get left behind this E3."

The Scorpio, despite being an amazing system, needs unique games for it to sell. I welcome another Gears of War along with new entries in the Halo and Forza franchises but the console really needs to do a lot more in the software department if it has any chance to make an impact among gamers…or players who are outside the Xbox community. Microsoft has a fantastic opportunity and the right console to show off the games at E3 so let’s hope they do not falter. 2017 so far has seen only Sony and to an extent Nintendo benefitting from some great games and development support, and now the onus is on Microsoft to ensure that Team Xbox doesn’t get left behind this E3.

Note: The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to GamingBolt as an organization.


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  • angryguy77

    PS4 sold because of its game lineup? You people either have a terrible memory, or are purposely omitting facts. If there were so many games, than why did sony admit it’s gaming lineup was “sparse” just 2 years ago? Why did they do nothing but push indies for the first few years the system was out? Yep, they had soooo many games, they had to advertise kickstarers at one(might be more) E3.

    PS has had a strong Q1 gaming wise, but lets not pretend the last few months have been the norm rather than the exception.

    • LifeOnMars

      Very true Xbox One has a disastrous launch and it went downhill from there. Both consoles had a poor selection of launch titles as is the case with all new consoles including Nintendo Switch.The most powerful console does not always win the war it needs AAA exclusives, that is why WII sold so well and the PS4 is out selling Xbox One 2:1. Without exclusive AAA games I can’t see Scorpio doing any better. I also think Scorpio will always cost $100 more than PS4 Pro.

    • angryguy77

      I wouldn’t call the x1 launch titles bad. DR 3 was a very fun game. Ryse wasn’t bad either.

      Exclusives help, but I’m not so sure as much as some think. 3rd party games still dominate in sales. But there is a need for them I will agree. The thing is, MS has exclusives, and they plan on having more. Halo, Gears, and the others they have do draw people in. Combine that with it being by far the best place to play COD, BF and others, people will gravitate toward it. I’m not expecting MS to catch Sony in sales, but I do believe the scorpio, if done right, will help avoid such a large gap from forming when the next systems do come out.

      The WII sold well because it was something different, and many of those people who bought them were not typical gamers.

      Power matters if the gap is large enough whether it be real or perceived.

    • justerthought

      It wasn’t just the disastrous launch or the greedy DRM restrictions, it was the fact that the core hardware was wrong. The hardware was cast in stone as a design that favoured multimedia rather than gaming, because MS greedily hijacked the xbox brand to try and capture the TV market in the living room.

    • TwoLiterSoda

      Exactly

    • darksteel6

      The Hardware was fine

    • J.j. Barrington

      You’re one impressive apologist.

    • darksteel6

      Not really disastrous, it sold pretty well, it was no Wii U that’s for sure.

    • Agreed.

    • _ kolanji_

      well said…….totally agree

    • Luke Skywalker

      top comment of the day quite possibly of the week on gamingbolt.

    • C. Hoffer

      Some good points.
      For me though, it was the fact that I hadn’t played any PS games since I owned a PS2. On top of that I found the One to be a huge under powered ugly console with another massive power brick. In the end I went with the PS4 for more under the hood power, a different selection of titles (Uncharted, Last of Us, Killzone, etc.) and a much much smaller footprint. I absolutely hated the fact that M$ products had a large power brick. My only complaint about both of my 360 units I had owned.

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    • darksteel6

      I think it’s a nice looking machine

    • Gamez Rule

      You are correct as there are so many reasons why PS4 could have been a better looking option to gamers and not just a single reason no matter what people want to believe.

      You could say that PS+ was a reason people picked PS4 over Xbone due to Sony giving out PS4 games via their service while XBL wasn’t handing out Xbox One games until much later on.

      Or you could say that PS4 was a better option than Xbone due to MS forcing Kinect onto gamers stating that Xbox needed Kinect, only to drop Kinect a while after policy changes.

      Or how easy it was to share a PS4 game with your friend ( See Video ) compared to MS’s no game share policy, which later got dropped via policy changes also.

      Or it could be that Sony had better first party support for PS4, or more first party support, or more indie dev support, or more dev support via third party games etc and let’s be honest here Sony has got a track record of producing exclusives consistently once they get going.

      Or it could be that PS4 looked a better choice due to not only being cheaper and more powerful than Xbone but PS4 wasn’t an *always online* console and could be played totally offline.

      There was so many reasons & that’s the truth so yes I agree it wasn’t just about games.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

    • J.j. Barrington

      How many games did Sony put out during its “sparse” year?

      I know you’re desperate, but you’re looking pathetic.

    • STRIKE

      Care to elaborate or better yet make a worthwhile counter argument to angryguy77 comment other than your usual ad hominem’s?

    • J.j. Barrington

      Not sure much more needs to be elaborated upon. He made a claim, based on Sony’s “our first party lineup this year is sparse” comment. You pulled up the lists, yourself: how much of a difference was there between Sony’s “sparse” first party outing and Microsoft’s?

      In the end, not that much. And that’s the point.

      He’s trying desperately to act like that one comment reflects the state of the PS4’s game library overall. He’s making erroneous statements like them only pushing indies for the first few years… even though Killzone, Until Dawn and inFamous- as well as Uncharted and TLOU- got heavy pushes during that time. This comment of his- that you agreed with, for some bizarre reason- asserts that the number and quality of games the PS4 has been getting is a recent thing… but the difference in library between it and the XB1 says it’s been going on for a while.

      He wants people to believe like Xbox fanboys believe- that exclusives don’t matter so much, that a track record of exclusives didn’t factor into the success of the PS4. He wants people to swallow the fanboy line that slightly better multiplats are what kept the PS4 selling MILLIONS more than the competition(even though that didn’t help the 360 out last generation), probably because he wants to believe the same will happen when the Scorpio hits shelves.

      I didn’t think I’d have to go into detail with all this, because I thought it’d be evident. My “usual ad hominem” is pretty much only ever used when it’s blatantly obvious that somebody’s full of crap, like the angry guy you’re defending. That USUALLY means I don’t have to go into detail because even the goofballs supporting him can see how wrong he is.

      But then, I guess there are folks like you who still need it spelled out.

    • STRIKE

      Making adhomiens or try to undermine someone’s thoughts with just insults its childish and does not show or make it evident that person is wrong. I don’t know how you do debates or prove someone wrong but if you want to get your point across you explain it and not say “you are wrong” and think that’s all that needs to be said.

      “But then, I guess there are folks like you who still need it spelled out.”

      Yep and so do you because I bet not everything is evident to you when it is to the other person.

    • J.j. Barrington

      … let me try to explain it to you in simple terms.

      When someone is OBVIOUSLY wrong- like claiming the sky is red- and all they’re using to support their claims are half-truths at best, what good does it do to debate them seriously?

      It seems pretty obvious to me that Sony admitting ONE YEAR of “sparse” first party support isn’t enough evidence to support the notion that exclusives aren’t what sold the PS4 early on. That is LITERALLY- not figuratively, but actually literally- all he has. Now, maybe I just pay more attention to what people are saying and how they say it than most, but I’d figure- if you’re as smart as you’re trying to show me you are- you and many others could easily see the holes in such an argument.

      Furthermore, this isn’t the first such argument he’s made. Rather, it’s his raison d’etre, as far as I can tell: he lives to make arguments that just aren’t arguments. After a while, it gets tiring destroying his claims with correct quotes, facts, sources, etc. Eventually, you just call a spade a spade. And it’s not like his comments are hidden, nor are you unfamiliar with them.

      Not sure why you’re reacting the way you are.

    • angryguy77

      lol your version of correcting me is injecting your own meaning into what they said.

      Sorry, but history is not on your side with this.

    • Hvd

      thats how he is just ignore him.

    • angryguy77

      Ok low info drone:
      https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-admits-ps4-first-party-lineup-this-year-is-a-/1100-6427614/

      Now, let me explain what I was getting at and why I brought that up seeing your reading comp is lacking.

      The author of this article said games were what mattered and not power, others have said that as well. It’s why the PS4 took off like a rocket according to them. It was not the power advantage according to them.

      Now how can that be, when by sony’s very own admission, they were lacking in games? Sony simply was not “killing it” games-wise early on.

      What’s so hard to comprehend about this? And really, it shouldn’t matter because they obviously did pretty well despite this fact.

    • J.j. Barrington

      How wrong are you? Let me count the ways.

      1. It wasn’t a remark that referred to the whole lineup of the PS4, but one year: 2015.

      2. It didn’t even refer to the whole of that year, but specifically the first party output. Even for that specific year(2015), the PS4 STILL had more exclusives than the competition.

      3. You’re acting as if games and power can’t both matter when, in reality, they CAN and do.

      4. Even IF the first AND third party lineups were sparse, that doesn’t mean people still didn’t buy the console for those games.

      5. Reputation also plays a big part in it. You know, the reputation Sony has for supporting consoles, as they did with the PS3 even right up to the PS4 launch? The reputation they’ve had for generations of supplying a wide variety of quality titles for their consoles? The reputation for supporting franchises and genres that don’t get much limelight elsewhere? These things matter.

      Nevermind reading comprehension; you lack critical thinking- and perhaps, general thinking- skills, and you’re not very good at making even simple arguments. That’s why I asked about the number of games the consoles saw the year that comment was made: your inability to grasp that “sparse” for Sony was still as good as or better than your beloved Microsoft just reflects your own ignorance and bias.

      For example: how many times will you try to make “Our first-party lineup is a little sparse this year” mean “The PS4 didn’t have many exclusives early on?” How many times will you try to twist it into “Since we didn’t make a lot of exclusives in 2015, there weren’t many games to play, so people chose the PS4 because of its power?”

    • angryguy77

      hahaha keep revising history so you can pretend Sony had an waterfall of games being released from 2013-2016.

      It didn’t happen bro. You know it to be true.
      “your inability to grasp that “sparse” for Sony was still as good as or
      better than your beloved Microsoft just reflects your own ignorance and
      bias.”

      And I’m “biased? . Guy, you’re literally spewed that nonsense out of the fanboy logic to explain away their “spars” comment.

      You know full well that Sony used indies to support their library because they didn’t have many AAA ready to go. I engaged in many debates over this issue since these systems were launched.

      The only reason why you’re pushing this false narrative is because deep down, you’re worried the scorpio might make a nice dent into son’s market share. You obviously are trying to reassure yourself.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Then explain: how many games did Sony have, first-party wise, in 2015? How many did Xbox have?

    • angryguy77

      You do realize someone provided that list already right? You need to calm down, you’re starting to miss key info contained in this thread.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I already referenced that list in a previous comment. Seems like you missed it… which is weird, because I’m pretty sure you responded to it.

      That being said, it means you know there wasn’t much of a difference between Sony’s “sparse” and a typical Xbox year, right?

    • Gamez Rule

      No matter what people believe with why PS4 sold more than Xbone all we do know is that PS4 no matter how it did it outsold Xbone. It is what it is☺

      That’s the truth isn’t it, and no one can change that.

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      lool.. it’s ironic when you people comment these stupid opinions and half truths!

      And i love it when people call them “xbox 360 players” when if you asked those SAME xbox 360 players what console they had the gen before MOST OF THEM would tell you PS2! loool but now they’re in PS4 again they are seen xbox fans all along!?

      Dont forget the PS3 suffered the same things you are saying about the Xbox One suffered… a weaker launch, a way higher price and a terrible unveiling! yet it still went off like a rocket and ended up beating the Xbox 360 in sales! so no .. you points aren’t that great and are simply half truths!

      Sony is simply killing it and have been from day one.. stop tryna underplay greatness..

    • darksteel6

      Yes and Sony eventually caught up to Microsoft, and i’m sure the opposite will soon happen this year.

    • Gamez Rule

      I can’t see that taking place being honest as there is about a 2.1 sales advantage to PS4 over Xbone while 360 had a lead of approx- 10 million consoles before PS3 hit the market.

    • darksteel6

      I can see it happening

    • J.j. Barrington

      That was after starting a year+ later and selling better than the 360 from launch on. It wasn’t a 25+ million gap to be overcome, chasing down one of the fastest selling consoles in history.

    • darksteel6

      It did not sell better from launch on, you’re spouting some serious revisionist history, Sony’s launch sales were pretty lackluster because of it’s massive 600 dollar price tag.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Got some proof of that? Nope, you don’t.

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      you REALLY think a system already admitted to be for enthusiasts will sell more than it’s original cheaper version!? are you really saying that!? lool

    • darksteel6

      dumbass

    • Gamez Rule

      Yep it looks that way☺

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      loool.. “Looks that way”… Based off of what!? there’s been no pre-orders and no price point announced… you’re actually just insane lool

    • Gamez Rule

      I was agreeing with you LMAO! Re-read☺

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      ohh my baddd!! i was putting in pauses in my head to read it like you were attacking me! lool

    • Gamez Rule

      No probs mate

    • angryguy77

      Truth hurts I know. Don’t be mad, go play your “awesome exclusives” of which I’m sure you probably own just a few of.

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      loool… a few of… i wish you only knew how much money i’ve spent on my gaming library! ahhah lool

    • STRIKE

      Exclusive and console exclusives

      2013:

      Xbox One
      Crimson Dragon
      Dead Rising 3
      Forza Motorsport 5
      Killer Instinct
      Ryse Son of Rome
      Fighter Within
      Lococycle
      Powerstar Golf
      Zoo Tycoon

      PS4
      Flower
      Killzone Shadow Fall
      Knack
      Resogun

      2014:
      Xbox One
      Titanfall
      Kinect Sports Rivals
      Forza Horizon 2
      Dance Central Spotlight
      Fantasia Music Evolved
      Sunset Overdrive
      Halo The Master Chief Collection
      Project Spark

      PS4
      Dead Nation
      inFamous Second Son
      Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn
      MLB 14: The Show
      War Thunder
      Entwined
      The Last of Us
      Driveclub
      LittleBigPlanet 3

      2015:
      Xbox One
      Gears of War Ultimate Edition
      #IDARB
      Screamride
      Ori and the Blind Forest
      Forza Motorsport 6
      Halo 5 Guardians

      PS4
      The Order 1886
      Helldivers
      Bloodborn
      MLB 15: The Show
      God of War III Remastered
      Until Dawn
      Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture
      Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection

      2016:
      Xbox One
      Forza Horizon 3
      Gears of War 4
      Quantum Break
      ReCore
      Gigantic
      Cobalt
      We Happy Few

      PS4
      Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
      The Last Guardian
      Ratchet & Clank
      The Tomorrow Children
      Street Fighter V
      Alienation
      No Man’s Sky
      Paragon
      MLB The Show 16
      World of Final Fantasy

      2017:
      Xbox One(This is just sad)
      Halo Wars 2
      Soon we get:
      Crackdown 3
      State of Decay 2
      Sea of Thieves
      Phantom Dust Remaster
      and whatever unannounced game Microsoft has for E3

      PS4
      Gravity Rush 2
      Horizon Zero Dawn
      Nier Automata
      Tales of Berseria
      Yakuza 0
      Nioh
      MLB: The Show 17
      Persona 5
      and much much more.

    • darksteel6

      Order 1886 sucked, you Sony fanboys can have that one all to yourselves.

      Also Halo Wars 2 is great and not “sad” at all fool.

    • J.j. Barrington

      By the way, you’re missing Zestiria off the list for 2015, the “sparse” year that was made up by third party exclusives(something Xbox just doesn’t have).

      If I took a closer look at your list, I wonder how many more PS4 games I’d find are missing?

    • STRIKE

      I only listed most of the well known titles that made headlines from sales, ad vertisments, metascore, or sites that listed the best games each console had each year.
      If I am missing something that’s a given since I never said this where all the games.

    • darksteel6

      Nah not as many as you’d think jumped ship.

    • Mr Xrat

      Another Xgimp with a Halo avatar. It wasn’t just the PS4’s game lineup that made it the better buy (as surveys confirm), the fact the PS3 was well supported all the way up to 2013 made the PS4 a no-brainer.

      I understand why you need to though, your overblown lineup is the only quantifiable delusion you had and that’s only because they were dumped at the end of the year leaving you with a nine month game drought.

    • Cenk Algu

      Sad Rat and his fake accounts can’t stand against the truth. Delusional,blind fangirl.

    • angryguy77

      you seem mad. It’s ok kid, you can lean on that game crutch for the next few weeks. After that, might want to look for a different shared thought to spam on the internet as to why Sony is so great.

    • quantum

      Agreed, nice to see some common sense on here for once instead of fanboy rants. For me it was the forcing kinect on people that turned me off the X1. I bought a PS4 early and apart from BB and UC4 I just mostly played multiplats until this year when all the good exclusives dropped. I picked up a cheap xbox one S to catch up on some games I missed, H5 GOW4 FH etc.

    • Guest

      Sorry but you can’t debate facts.
      Just count the number of AAA exclusives and compare it with the number of XB1.
      XB1 has just 4 AAA exclusives in three and half years.

      Numbers don’t lie.

  • DA-ROOSTER

    Xbox Scorpio’s true 4K gaming with 1st party and 3rd party games will be it’s trump card against the PS4/PS4 PRO

    • LifeOnMars

      Xbox exclusives don’t do it for me, but if it’s less than $400 and gets 3rd party games that make use of the power it may just do OK.

    • justerthought

      But if it cannot play the best games ever made, all that power counts for nothing. I play games. Photorealism is great but not if it’s just polishing a turd.

    • darksteel6

      fool

    • Eliezer Barreto

      What first party games lollllllllllll, scalebound?

    • angryguy77

      still waiting for Deep Down…..

    • J.j. Barrington

      But you don’t have a PS4. And unlike Microsoft’s involvement with Scalebound, Sony isn’t in charge IN ANY WAY of Deep Down; that’d be Capcom.

      And you talk about others having “low info.”

    • angryguy77

      BTW, how long did it take the Last Guardian to arrive?

      My second question would be, how many posters of Kaz and Cherny do you have hung up around your house?

    • J.j. Barrington

      BTW, when will Scalebound and Fable come out?

      I’m sure by “Cherny,” you meant Cerny. But, like so many other things you’ve attempted, you failed miserably.

    • QUIMICOMORTAL

      well, the 4k part is true, but where are those 1st and 3rd party games?

  • If you think Last of Us 2 is coming out this year you are freaking high, lol. That will come at the end of the generation in 3-4 years, more than likely, as their swan song, the same way TLOU was the swan song for PS3. I have a feeling Death Stranding will also be a great game to close off the end of the generation for PS also…

    • justerthought

      The end of the gen is 3 years after the release of the PS4 Pro which is a mid gen console. So it’s less than 3 years away now, not 4 years. And The Last Of Us 2 will be out within 2 years, so stop stretching things out to make your point.

    • HAHAHA, funniest thing I’ve read all day 😀

    • J.j. Barrington

      Then you didn’t actually read that crap angryguy wrote, even though you agreed with it?

      Well, I guess you could say that was sad, rather than funny.

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      3-4 years are you stupid!?
      The game will be out by 2018. 2019 March LATEST! You clearly have no idea how ND works as a studio ¬__¬

    • darksteel6

      Last of Us 2 might come out late next year.

  • heima

    Changing the rhetoric again to accomodate your point of view and fanboyism, right?
    Clickbaiting at its finest.

  • justerthought

    Normally I would say exclusives don’t really matter because we play more 3rd party games than exclusives, but then we have The Last Of Us, Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn which change the picture because they are among the best games ever made on any platform along with Skyrim and Fallout 4. They go beyond the normal exclusive head count and join the classics hall of fame.

    As a gamer I have to have a Sony console in order to play all 5 of those classics. If you’re an xbox gamer who has never played those games, life is a lot simpler because you won’t need to factor them in into your decision when you dump lame multimedia console and get a proper games console in the form of the XB Scorpio.

    I totally agree with this article that it does not matter how good the XB Scorpio is if it cannot play those 5 games. And Sony don’t stand still so there will be more excellent games such as The Last Of Us Part 2, Days Gone and Horizon Zero Dawn 2. The mass market of console consumers are not looking at the spec, all they care about is convenience, price and content. If you want proof of that, compare it to lossless native CD vs compressed mp3. Look who won.

    • darksteel6

      Yeah that’s where MS has a massive advantage over Sony, Xbox One can play tons of 360 games you already own, PS4 forces you to rebuy PS3 game you already own because of Sony’s idiotic decision to make the Cell processor so freaking complicated.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I’m not being forced at all. Especially since I still have my PS3.

      You guys…

    • darksteel6

      But what about those who traded their PS3?

    • J.j. Barrington

      They’re still not forced, so what about them?

    • darksteel6

      moron

    • J.j. Barrington

      Don’t be so hard on yourself.

    • Scorpio is all hype no games. Sorry to say it’s gonna get worse.

    • darksteel6

      wrong moron.

    • Cypher-Unknown

      They really don’t force you to do any such thing, though.

  • Nine

    The 8th generation just got really started and Sony&MS&nintendo have a lot to offer and a lot of challenges and I think the main reason why the PS4 outsell both xone&wii u is the diversity in its games

  • Bilal Prince-Ali

    Sony just needs to keep doing what it’s doing and it’ll be fine…

    Xbox Scorpio is going to be an incredible systems and games will be amazing… there’s nothing they need to worry about if they make the right decisions -like MS have been doing recently- like keeping the price of the system down as well as addressing their games line up *problem*…

    • darksteel6

      They are already ahead of Sony in terms of refunds now.

    • J.j. Barrington

      lmao, they sure are. More people definitely returned XB1s than PS4s.

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      huh..? lool

    • darksteel6

      idiot

    • darksteel6

      moron

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      well it seems like you cant formulate a sentence so…

      have
      a
      nice
      day.

  • TwoLiterSoda

    Seriously?! Another article about nothing. Man so many of these stories trying to somehow help Sony and discredit MS. Sony doesn’t need your help and these articles do more harm then good. Bleh.

  • Mike Clyne

    Microsoft never learn. The original Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and all third parties looked and played a bit better on it and it still didn’t matter in upsetting Sony’s sales.
    I can only speak for myself, but power had nothing to do with why I went with Sony. It was the games I knew were coming from first party eventually, just as you point out this article. It’s true of me.
    But even if picture quality were a deciding factor, this isn’t the same as last go around. With PS4 and Xbox one, if you fail to hit 1080p, that is a noticeable blur to the image. As well, XB1 was suffering screen tear and framerate problems early on.
    But this go around where the comparison is 4k or checkboard, 4k might look a little better, but checkerboard is so close that most won’t care playing on a TV.
    Where last time the poorer version had fundamental gameplay affecting problems, both Scorpio and Pro will run games well. Framerate and screen tear aren’t likely to be a problem on either of these machines, so the only real difference you’re talking is the difference between native and checkerboard, which there might be a difference, but it’s pretty slight to all but the most extreme fan.
    In fact, it seems about as slight as the difference the original Xbox had over PS2. I see Xbox getting a bump in sales from Scorpio, but nothing to put it anywhere near PS4 numbers.
    The only time Sony as a console hasn’t sold well was due to shooting themselves in the foot, not due to any competitor. They straightened out their PS3 mistakes and are selling at PS2 pace (quicker, actually).

    I want the Xbox to do well. The closer the sales, the more competitive the companies get and usually results in better sales for us, the gamers.
    But all I predict happening is a small segment of people who are already Xbox owners will get themselves a better running machine (exactly what seems to be happening with the Pro). I don’t see this causing people who are staying away from Xbox up to this point jumping in. Not in any significant numbers.
    You are absolutely correct that Xbox needs better exclusives and needs to be known for more than the Halo-Gears-Forza lineup. Even those three or four other titles coming, the only one with any potential to attract new consumers is maybe Crackdown 3. Maybe.
    But that’s hedging your bets on a series that most bought the first one because of the Halo demo, the second game bombed and had bad reviews and has been quiet since. I’m frankly surprised 3 has any hype given the series history.

    It’s incredible there are still people at Microsoft telling themselves the only reason they don’t sell more is the power of the console….this logic, despite how the Wii sold when it was the weakest powered console of it’s generation.

    • darksteel6

      Man you sound pretty ignorant when it comes to history, Halo 2 did not “bomb” at all, it was a gigantic hit.

    • Tga215

      He was talking about crackdown maybe you should read before you comment

    • darksteel6

      Well that game did not bomb either, it actually sold quite well despite it’s mixed reception from critics:https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/crackdown-2-tops-uk-sales-charts-27383376/

    • J.j. Barrington

      You know you need more than the launch sales in one region to say it didn’t bomb, right?

    • darksteel6

      You do realize UK sales are often virtually identical to U.S. sales right moron? the game sold very well in the U.S. as well, look it up idiot.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Virtually identical? You might want to rephrase that. Or retract it altogether. Seeing as the U.K. market isn’t anywhere near as large(and the U.K. doesn’t have 300+ million people), it’s virtually impossible for that to be true.

    • Cenk Algu

      Lol delusional fanboy keep dreaming.

    • J.j. Barrington

      What was delusional about what he said?

    • Cenk Algu

      Everything especialy this resolution thing was funny much haha. He is an ignorant fanboy like you.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Uh-huh. So delusional that all you can say is that it’s delusional.

      You should probably not use words if you don’t know what they mean.

    • Cenk Algu

      Huh!

    • angryguy77

      “he original Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and all third parties
      looked and played a bit better on it and it still didn’t matter in
      upsetting Sony’s sales.”

      MS was a year late and breaking into an industry where Sony already had a strong foothold. That’s not taking away from what they accomplished, but it
      s hardly an apples to apples comparison.

      “I can only speak for myself, but power had nothing to do with why I went
      with Sony. It was the games I knew were coming from first party
      eventually, just as you point out this article. It’s true of me.”

      No problem with you there. People should buy what they think they will like the most. But I don’t believe the majority of people switched to PS for those reasons.

      “But even if picture quality were a deciding factor, this isn’t the same
      as last go around. With PS4 and Xbox one, if you fail to hit 1080p, that
      is a noticeable blur to the image. As well, XB1 was suffering screen
      tear and framerate problems early on.”

      The difference in res between the 2 systems was not noticeable unless you had DF pixel count. Further, x1 did not have frame rate issues. Don’t know where you are getting that right. In fact, in several games they had the edge in holding a steady frame rate. If you think the difference between the 2 was apparent, then you’re going to really see a gap when scorpio starts showing what it’s made of.

      “Scorpio and Pro will run games well. Framerate and screen tear aren’t
      likely to be a problem on either of these machines, so the only real
      difference you’re talking is the difference between native and
      checkerboard, which there might be a difference, but it’s pretty slight
      to all but the most extreme fan.”

      Now this is annoying. You sit there and tell us there’s this large difference between the x1 and ps4, but then tell us we won’t notice the difference between the pro and scorpio?????? The x1 and psr were far more closer in power than the pro and scorpio is, yet, we won’t see that alrighty then.

      “In fact, it seems about as slight as the difference the original Xbox
      had over PS2. I see Xbox getting a bump in sales from Scorpio, but
      nothing to put it anywhere near PS4 numbers.”

      Possibly correct, however, if MS sells this at 400, I wouldn’t put my money on it. Who knows.

      “It’s incredible there are still people at Microsoft telling themselves
      the only reason they don’t sell more is the power of the console.”

      Where are you getting this from???? Every action they’ve taken since Phil has taken over has been addressing the mistakes they made in 2013. These policies enacted have addressed other things than power.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hmm… maybe that V3 guy.

      Or maybe your heavy reliance on saying that very thing: that power is why the PS4 sold better.

      Maybe it’s all the people agreeing with you when you say something so moronic.

    • Cenk Algu

      You are so damm ignorant.

    • J.j. Barrington

      That’s it?

    • V3

      Power IS why it sold better according to actual research and not naive guessing or how we “feel”.

      “75% Of Gamers Say That Graphics Do Matter When Purchasing A Game” -http://www.cinemablend.com/games/75-Gamers-Say-Graphics-Do-Matter-Purchasing-Game-64659.html

      Nielsen has had similar findings.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “75% of gamers feel that graphics do play a part in their decision to purchase a new title.”

      “graphics do play a part”

      “play a part”

      “part”

      Thanks for playing.

    • V3

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-does-resolution-really-matter
      Research means you can look at various sources and find the same conclusion. The fact is , the X1 is behind because PS4 had higher resolution games, and still does.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Do you not know how this works?

      Look at the reasons placed on that chart. Do they quite make sense to you? I’ll point out some things for which more clarification- which is not given- is required.

      “Blu-Ray Player” is listed as #2 on the PS4 list, but that’s a problem. Why? Because the XB1 also has a Blu-Ray player. Why would someone make that their reason to pick the PS4 over the XB1 if the XB1 also has that feature? Does that make sense?

      How could “Faster Processing Power” feature on both lists? One is faster than the other, so how could people choose the slower one as having “Faster Processing Power?”

      But I guess I don’t expect you to understand why things like that are off. That would take critical thinking skills, and you’ve shown quite clearly that you’re severely lacking in that area.

      I suppose I should applaud your effort, though.

    • angryguy77

      https://gamerant.com/survey-gamers-value-graphics-over-gameplay/

      just in case you didn’t see it above…

    • J.j. Barrington

      There’s a lack of “exclusives” as an option, likely because this is specifically about picking a game to buy. Furthermore, you’ll notice that the percentages involved tally 336%.

      Nice try, though.

    • angryguy77

      “The study found that 67% of gamers listed graphics as a major influence on their purchasing habits”

      spin it all you want, but graphics and power have and always will matter.

    • J.j. Barrington

      But nobody said they didn’t, you moron.

    • angryguy77

      According to drones like you, it wasn’t a factor. We now know that it influences the most for the majority of gamers.

      As I said, find another crutch to lean on. The scorpio is coming and it will sell very, very well.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Who said it? Nobody. It’s just you and other idiots like you trying to say people claimed that was all that mattered, and that it no longer matters at all.

      You can’t even keep your story straight in this one comment section; you can’t even keep what’s being said by who straight.

      Keep trying.

    • V3

      You really don’t get history.

    • J.j. Barrington

      And you do? By all means, explain.

    • V3

      Of course. The OG Xbox and ps2 is an apples to oranges comparison , because the PS2’s real competition was the dreamcast and the the OG Xbox was late to the game, and only became popular then because it was perceived as MORE POWERFUL. The most powerful system with the best looking games almost always dominates it competition – the Wii was an anamoly.

    • J.j. Barrington

      That’s completely and utterly false, as the most powerful console has NEVER won a generation.

    • V3

      NES, SNES, PS1,PS2, 360 and Ps4 had more impressive hardware than their counterparts. The OG xbox was late to the game.

    • J.j. Barrington

      All of those are untrue except the PS4. Also not sure why you brought up the 360, since it came in last in the previous generation.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I should also add: the PS2 was the WEAKEST of that generation, with games that looked better everywhere else: Gamecube, Xbox, Dreamcast. It most certainly was not power that led to its domination in the 6th generation.

      If that wasn’t enough to disprove your “Wii was an anomaly” theory, the 5th generation was the same: the PS1 was not the most powerful of the many 5th generation consoles- though it may not have been the weakest, either- but it dominated everything else handily. In the 4th generation, the SNES wasn’t the most powerful, but handily outsold everything but the Genesis.

      You were saying?

    • V3

      The PS2 had everything won after beating the dreamcast – which is was much more powerful then. The OG xbox and GC came out years after the PS2 so it was already behind and impossible to catch up. Get your history right.

    • Eddie Battikha

      U got it it the other way around, face the truth.

    • Eddie Battikha

      U told it exactly how it is and history will repeat itself.

    • darksteel6

      yes they do learn fool

    • J.j. Barrington

      How have they learned? Exclusive games are what they needed, something they should have learned from last generation, and yet they chose to go with more power and put all their former exclusives on another platform entirely.

    • Obviously not.. there will be no scorpio xclusives.

    • darksteel6

      that’s a good thing, that would only piss people off.

    • Well ok. When the Scorpio isn’t selling as well and even less money on game development is spended by microsoft on first party development.. let’s see what you will say then.

      All those old third party games won’t get a scorpio patch, all you have is old xbox360 games on a 4k machine.

      Wanna play halo? Again?..*sigh*..

  • Riggybro

    I chose consoles this gen (PS) based on games. Please note this means games that existed at the time, games that were just a trailer at the time and also games that didn’t exist yet but could safely predict will happen.

    Even if you don’t like Gravity Rush, Last Guardian, Uncharted, Yakuza, Ratchet and Clank, JRPG etc… etc… it just looks really good to have a consistently diverse range from a marketing perspective. It gives your product a certain identity.
    PS has a vibe. PS isn’t afraid to be weird. Hence why I chose PS.

    XB has a marketing problem.
    Maybe it takes itself too seriously and maybe it can’t shake off its dudebro shooter image maybe it seems too chained to North America.
    Late this year Scorpio will be the most powerful console 6 TF, 4K etc – but I feel this ship has sailed – many have already become disillusioned with – great graphics but the same old game and “plot” underneath. After the initial surge of sales of Scorpio I foresee an original XB and PS2 end result.

    • darksteel6

      Not really, does not seem to have a marketing problem to me, only idiots think it’s a “dudebro”(god I hate that stupid term) console. You do realize Sony has gotten lots of COD exclusive stuff in the past few years right?

      Killzone is every bit the macho shooter franchise that Gears is.

    • J.j. Barrington

      But Sony’s consoles have an identity that surpasses that. It’s the console where you can play Persona, where FF is huge, where The Last Guardian resides. It’s where baseball lives, where games like Until Dawn and Heavy Rain and Journey thrive.

      No matter which one you single out, PlayStation consoles are known for their variety. Xbox… it’s known for “dudebro” stuff. Call of Duty, Gears, Halo, Madden.

    • angryguy77

      yet all those “dudebro” games crush the “variety” you mention in sales……but naaa, the PS is a fine wine and xbox is a cheap beer right?????

    • Gamez Rule

      I’m just waiting for the Xbone exclusive games Penello mentioned when he stated to DF “We have a great exclusive games lineup. We’re getting tonnes of developer support”

      We are four months into 2017 and so far IMO there’s not a great exclusive games lineup at all? I’m glad I own more than one console that’s for sure.

    • angryguy77

      That’s because E3 hasn’t happened yet…

      Lets see what they have in store. I’m not saying they’re going to have a ton of games, but I’d suspect they have a few cards to play yet.

    • J.j. Barrington

      So games only come out after they’ve been announced at E3?

    • angryguy77

      E3 is the world’s premier event for computer, video and mobile games and related products. At E3, the video game industry’s top talent pack the Los Angeles Convention Center, connecting tens of thousands of the best, brightest, and most innovative in the interactive entertainment industry. For three exciting days, leading-edge companies, groundbreaking new technologies and never-before-seen products will be showcased. E3 connects you with both new and existing partners, industry executives, and the biggest fans of video games providing unprecedented exposure to emerging markets. E3 is where it all starts.

      This was taken off of e3’s website. I suggest you visit to learn more about it.

    • J.j. Barrington

      So what you’re saying is that Microsoft can’t release or announce any games unless they’re at E3?

      Weird, cuz nobody else seems to have a problem breaking that rule.

    • angryguy77

      Weird that they said they’re not talking about games too early or until e3 huh? See this is good. The more we talk, the less info you become.

    • J.j. Barrington

      If before E3 is “too early,” does that mean the games are only coming out around the holidays, and poor fanboys like you will have nothing exclusive to play until then?

      Not that that should come as a surprise, since that’s pretty much all that happens. I mean, other companies announce games that come out a little while later at Paris Games Show, or PAX, or the Tokyo Games Show, or their own events. But since Microsoft only puts out games for the holidays, the only place they can announce them without them being “too early” is at E3.

      Too bad. Though I guess you’re used to waiting until the fall/winter to play anything.

    • angryguy77

      How many holiday releases does sony usually put out??? Oh that’s right, not many because they usually release around spring where MS plans for the holidays.
      Keep going, soon you’ll be up to speed on how the industry works.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Around spring? But none in winter or fall, like TLG, Horizon, DriveClub? Nothing in summer like inFamous, Until Dawn, Journey?

      When Uncharted 4 and Shadow of the Beast dropped in May, was that still spring? Or did it count as summer where you are?

      Weird: I’m seeing all the seasons represented for Sony pretty much every year. By contrast, don’t all the Microsoft games drop in winter and compete with all the big third party games? Maybe that’s why Halo sold worse than any entry in a while?

    • Gamez Rule

      “fanboys like you will have nothing exclusive to play until then?”

      I would like too point out that I have nothing new to play as I have to wait till E3 I guess for games that hopefully this year don’t get canned.

      I’m being honest now, I just don’t understand why MS haven’t been releasing full exclusive games while Sony releases exclusives all the time. As a person that has bought into all MS consoles I really feel disappointment towards MS as there isn’t any excuses not to show support to gamers like Sony are showing.

    • J.j. Barrington

      And it’s not just the platform-holder’s exclusives, either. One thing Sony has in spades that Microsoft lacks in the big, varied third party exclusives. That definitely plays a part… unless you only want to downplay various genres as unimportant.

    • Gamez Rule

      Agreed.

      MS ( In My Opinion ) needs to step up with some support while getting more exclusives behind them from as many sources as possible to for their gamers that bought into their base hardware.

      Also ( IMO ) this should have been done BEFORE making new hardware ( Scorpio ) because otherwise peoples Xbone consoles will just sit there because there’s nothing new to play that cannot be played on other hardware.

      Well that’s how I see it and yes my Xbone is sitting there hardly being touched as everything can played on PS4 while having full exclusive games supporting the gamers too.

    • The waiting coninues.. it’s all hype bro, the scorpio is gonna make you wait and wait for something that is never coming..

      All you gonna get on the Scorpio is backwards compatible games and thats going to become boring to you at a point.

      If there are no exclusive Scorpio games at E3 ur gonna be so dissapointed. I hope they do have 1 or 2 exclusives that are not Halo, Forza or GOW.

    • Gamez Rule

      Does seem that way. Everyone keeps saying to me ..wait till E3.

      Thing is I have waited for E3 before and got all hyped up with some of the games shown, then MS canned them..I was like..Noooo

    • J.j. Barrington

      Huh? They do? Where?

      What are Halo Wars’ sales? Halo 5? Gears?

      All those games are doing so good Microsoft won’t even talk sales anymore.

      What’s doing the crushing? Multiplats? Don’t they crush all the games on Xbox, too? Aren’t they meant to appeal to a broader audience, and so sell to more people?

      How many stupid things can you say in 24 hours?

    • Hvd

      halo 5 have 16.5m players sony cant even touch that.

    • angryguy77

      You’re new to this debate thing. If I could, I’d write you an explanation in crayon, but this format will have to suffice.

      See rigybro seems to think the X1 is for “dudebros” where Sony is for a different breed. I simply stated if that was the case, then maybe those non-dudebro titles would sell better than the 3rd party games. But the numbers don’t lie, and it would appear that maybe both systems are “dudebro.”

      Not hard to understand really.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Your failure lies in the assumption that they’d have to sell better than the best-selling franchises in order to NOT be the dudebro console.

      That’s false, though.

      All that’s needed is for the console to be known as a successful platform for many things that don’t fit the dudebro category. Not only is this the case, but it has been so for decades.

      PlayStation only needs to be the place where non-dudebro games thrive, not where they dominate, and the former is undeniable.

      On the other hand, the ONLY thing that thrives on Xbox- with maybe Forza as an exception- is the dudebro.

      It’s the difference between a Mustang GT and a Panamera S: both are speedy, powerful, sound great. But one carries more passengers more comfortably. Both are sport, but both are not sedans. (In case you can’t tell, the PS4 is the more versatile Panamera in this example.)

    • angryguy77

      lol keep your JRPG neckbearded games.

      You seem pretty upset over this whole thing. I suggest taking your Kaz doll to a therapist and showing them where on it that MS hurt you.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Riiight. Disregarding a whole genre with silly insults to those that like them, but I’M the upset one.

      Remind me who’s using a bunch of lies and half-truths to make himself feel better again?

      Oh, that’s right: it’s you.

    • angryguy77

      You know what’s sad……you think there are classes of gamers lol. We’re talking about gaming and you clowns seem to think enjoying one genre over another is a badge of superiority.

      It’s people like you that give people reasons to denigrate our hobby.

      Again,
      dudebro” games dominate the PS4 sales…..meaning the majority of PS fans….like “dudebro” games and actually want them.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “JRPG neckbearded games”

      What was that about classes?

      Keep your mouth shut.

    • angryguy77

      lol, hit too close to home?

      btw, I didn’t say those people were inferior now did I.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Somebody said dudebros were inferior?

    • angryguy77

      pe·jo·ra·tive: A pejorative is a word or grammatical form expressing a negative connotation or a low opinion of someone or something, showing a lack of respect for someone or something. It is also used as criticism, hostility, disregard or disrespect. A term can be regarded as pejorative in some social or cultural groups but not in others. Sometimes, a term
      may begin as a pejorative and eventually be adopted in a non-pejorative sense in some or all contexts. Name slurs can also involve an insulting or disparage meaning.

      Keep this up and I’m going to have to start charging for all the lessons I’m giving out.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Wait, so dudebro is bad, but neckbeard is good?

    • angryguy77

      Guess it depends if you have one. Care to fill us in?

    • J.j. Barrington

      Nope, no dudebros here.

    • Just wait untill people stop buying even less xbox games, specially with that refund option.. xbox one and scorpio dont have quality games so people will try them out and then ask for a refund.

      And that’s gonna kill xbox forever..

    • Gamez Rule

      I think demos would be a better choice for gamers. If you like the demo you can then purchase the game if you wanted too.

      And yes the waiting continues as everyone keeps telling me to wait for E3. I’m not interested in Scorpio as I already use the Xbone and the VR games have been bought on PS4-Pro, so IMO there isn’t a reason *for me* to buy into Scorpio as MS haven’t shown Xbone base model owners any full exclusive games in the first four months of 2017 as it is.

    • I guess it just takes a lot of time and money to make a demo, thats why they choose to focus on the end product and perhaps throw in a little beta testing in between.

    • Hvd

      crappy jrpgs…lol

    • darksteel6

      Xbox is not just known for “dudebro” stuff, that’s an asinine and unfounded stereotype.

    • J.j. Barrington

      lol, sure.

    • darksteel6

      dumbass

    • J.j. Barrington

      Yes, you are.

    • Edonus

      Xbox One does not have a marketing problem…… they have a Bias gaming media problem. Ps4 is not what is causing the Xbox One problems. All these games in this 1st quarter are mostly delayed games with some that have been in development for more than 10 years. This is a snap shot that the bias gaming media is selling to people right now.

      The real reason MS needs the Scorpio is because the gaming media has used the (slight) performance difference as a nuclear weapon on all of the Xbox One projects. Sunset Overdrive is still one of the best games I have palyer this gen…. its like a open wold Rachet & Clank that was written by Deadpool…… All I remember when it launched and before it launched was resolution talk. Oh and the generic bias media hate of…. its just not for me…. but no one say that about Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2….

      With the Scorpio being clearly more powerful maybe when Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 come out we dont have to see 30 articles talking about how the resolution gives it jaggy corners if zoom in to the book case in through the window in the building 3 miles away…… or how 5 bushels of grass in a remote area make the game superior.

      Sea Of Thieves and Crackdown 3 4k 30fps-4k 60fps….. Now we can talk about the games. I am sure the bias gaming media will come up with something but at least it wont be that.

    • Riggybro

      Sunset Overdrive is great. But it is one game.

      Unfortunately the conversation will not be turning to games because all Xbox articles and comments are about specs. The articles about pixel counting are set to ramp up with Pro vs Scorpio articles.

      I disagree on the gaming media bias narrative. It’s convenient. Xbox made some bad decisions and have released some run-of-the-mill games. They have suffered because of this.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Where was your crying about the gaming media bias when they were all dooming not just PlayStation, but all of Sony? Surely when you were surfing N4G almost ten years ago, you saw such articles, and yet I bet you NEVER thought about there being a bias against Sony, did you? I bet you were agreeing right along with them.

      If all you remember is about resolution talk, that’s what you WANT to remember. The rest of us remember the talk having been predominantly about games, especially coming off The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 to end last generation. Even Xbox fanboys were trying to downplay GT6 by citing its less than astronomical sales, even though it could have been pushed to be a release title for PS4.

      But I guess all that’s slipped your mind, now that you need to pretend people only ever talked about power.

    • Edonus

      Dude…….. this a technique I have seen other shills use to justify how badly the media bias has been this gen. Its almost like you guys got a memo of talking points…… But the this is the thing.

      What has happened this gen and happening now to the Xbox One is nothing like what happened to Ps3 last gen. There are extremely big differences. Here re a few major differences.
      1) They did not do pre attacks and coloring on the Ps3. Every time Xbox One comes with news of a feature or a game the media pretty much spends the next given months or weeks painting it as negative as they can (and in cases that it is undeniably positive they ignore it). Games get announced and get destroyed with 20 resolution articles a day.
      2) Overtly negative reporting. You see this manifest in many ways. Like if there is a positive and negative interpretation of a situation the gaming media adopts the negative POV solely. As an example….. MS says they want their exclusives to be play anywhere….. negative= Xbox One doesnt have any exclusives for system itself….. positive= I can buy a game once and play it anywhere I have access to a PC… laptop turns in to greatest mobile console ever…….. the media exclusively only talks about the Xbox One not having any exclusives. They didnt do that to the Ps3….. even when they had no games they still made sure they told consumers it was the cheapest blu ray player available (funny that the Xbox One S is the cheapest UHD player available, you barely hear that mentioned.
      We can keep on going
      3) Dismissing the advantages the Xbox One has and does well.
      4) Overselling the thing the Ps4 does well.

      The Ps3 hate was not as heavy and let go as soon as it was possible.
      5) The bias gaming media created this horrible launch story and keeps on linking the X1 back to it……. It would be like if in 2011 IGN was still writing articles referencing Sony saying people need to get a second job if they want a Ps3.

      The blatant bias has gone on for over 3 years now…. they are not letting MS sell their products then they gloat how well Ps4 is doing

      This just a few we can go on and on. The gaming media is killing gaming.

    • Gamez Rule

      PS3 hate was big time, and the media did do pre attacks too, and it carried on throughout that whole gen.

      We was seeing all over the media that 360 had a better online service in the form of Xbox Live and that PSN was crap because it was free, and PSN had no games worth buying, or that 360’s controller was much better than the old style PS3 controller, or that 360 had better game support over PS3 with better graphics and exclusives, not all developers supporting PS3 while media was blaming the consoles architecture for PS3’s failures.

      Or how PS3’s Blu-Ray was crap and very slow and not needed for gaming and that 360’s CD was the better choice, and that trophies are worthless compared to achievements and looked car too, or when Gabe Newell spread crap about the PS3 ( only to later on say sorry on his views ) or how about the media when stating PS3 wasn’t selling, when in fact it was outselling 360 within the same time span, or that it looked like a George foreman grill

      Or how PS3 online was always laggy and XBL was perfect, or how PS3 was to expensive for a paper weight, or the PS3 and Sony will become bankrupt because PS3 earns no money and has no money made via games or PSN, and how PS3 had a very poor launch and nothing will stop 360 outselling PS3, or when YLOD was worse that RROD which just wasn’t true, or when game faceoffs were bias and favored 360 over PS3 even when it wasn’t the case…ETC etc etc

      I remember how it was and Sony learned from it. But MS took their policies too far and got a backlash for it from the media hence the 180’s taking place and it stuck with them. Sony had a taste of bad media and press last gen, and now MS are getting that treatment for putting themselves in that path.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Hey, none of that happened. If we say it did, it’s just us rewriting history… wait, it’s not us doing the rewriting.

    • Gamez Rule

      Yep you were 100% correct LMAO!

    • J.j. Barrington

      He’s been the same super-blind fanboy for years now. Presenting an alternate account of history to suit his needs is disappointing, but not unexpected.

    • Gamez Rule

      Yeah I know. IF he wants to re-write history to point out his views and accounts on what he *thinks* happened then he should do an article and allow the media and public to point out the real deal on what took place.

    • Edonus

      What you are doing is another example of re writing history.
      Before Ps3 launched it was being sold as a powerhouse…..

      You forget that Playstation 3 had a terrible online for the first couple years. When it launched they didnt even have a real unified network…. They wre going to let each individual company handle their own online so each game needed a log in to go on line. Xbox Live was leaps and bounds better. PSN didnt even get good until like the last 3 years of the gen.

      The gaming media was selling blu ray super hard remember that was one of the reason the format won against HD DVD. The media was selling all the power differences they could….. remember the first 360s didnt have hdmi support….. remember all the interlaced vs progressive.

      RRod!!!! the media tried to bury the 360 with RRod…. MS didnt geta pass on that. They had to really pay.

      The biggest difference and the truest problem is that last gen even when Ps3 was in its struggles they never omitted the positive points of the console too. You can say you dislike things about the X1 (like you can with any product) but it is not all bad and as some very nice things about it that are even better tan what the competition offers. The gaming media bias shows when they show none of that.

    • Gamez Rule

      “What you are doing is another example of re writing history.”

      lmao! Nope need to re-write anything as what I posted really took place mate. Now you may not like it but it did happen.

      Anyone one on here can look into what I posted and see themselves if they search what was going on back in the PS3 / 360 days.

    • J.j. Barrington

      lol, stop it. The PS3 was “doomed” before it launched, nobody cared about Blu Ray, all the big franchises that were exclusive like Final Fantasy were going to 360, which was killing the PS3. There was plenty of hate on the PS3 from pre-reveal until.. well, you’re still doing it now.

      You’re still using a false quote, even after a decade, to put Sony down. How hard is it to look up what was actually said? “I will work more hours to buy one.” That sound like “Get a second job?”

      It’s amazing that you can twist so many things for your beloved Xbox, yet call anybody else a shill. You should probably delete that word from your vocabulary, as it’s just not beneficial to you.

    • Edonus

      Here is another technique I have seen….. re writing history. Ps3 was touted by the media to come in and destroy everything before it launched. That is actually the main reason Ps3 not having superior games was attacked…. even though the differences were minor the media was over selling the Ps3s performance.
      As for the quote…. you get the gist…… the point is the media wasnt using that as a detractor from the system after years on the market. You sony shills re constantly in Xbox One articles attacking downplaying and spreading your negative opinions….. I am not in Sony articles attacking the products so you clearly exhibit real shill behavior.

    • J.j. Barrington

      “Here is another technique I have seen….. re writing history.”

      You’re quite well-versed… though not very good.

      ” I am not in Sony articles attacking the products so you clearly exhibit real shill behavior.”

      Just like fanboys, shills don’t have to “attack” the other side to be what they are. Being a reputation manager for a specific brand is the same, and you’re definitely guilty of that.

      Tell me: what was the last bad thing Microsoft did in gaming?

    • Edonus

      I Am not reputation managing anything. I am just a consumer looking to talk about products I have an interest in. Its not my fault every Xbox One article you go into you have Ps4 shills running a muck spreading FUD. I would love to talk about games and the products in a more constructive capacity but most conversations from you shills is either trying to push people away from the Xbox One or towards a Ps4.

      I dont like that MS took so much of the Kinect functionality out of the system. I understand why they did it but the feature set was one of my major reasons for getting a X1 at the beginning….. I am not sure if that counts but your question is kind of weird.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You definitely do manage Xbox’s reputation. No one can say anything remotely negative about them, their policies, or their games without you flying in to defend them.

      And no, that doesn’t really count, but it’s you, so I’m not surprised.

      Lying about RROD would have been something that counted. “Deal with it” would have counted.

    • Edonus

      The funny thing is you make it sound like I am going out of my way to put them in a positive light. I think it seems that way because of how negative the bias gaming media has made the environment for them.

      I dont think you specified multi generation so I assumed we would confine everything to this gen….. with that said… I agree RRoD was a crisis ut in the end I think they handled it as good as could be expected.

      The “Deal With It” thing goes back to what I was talking about when I said the gaming media had been coloring the consumer perspective. Remember that was before the launch and reveal. For months the gaming media had been laying seeds about DRM and always online and paining it almost completely negative. I had programs I used all the time that had DRM so when I saw all the negative stories the gaming media was running scaring consumers, telling them they wont really own their games and wont be able to access them….. I was thinking its not that bad…. its not like how the gaming media was selling it.

      So in reality that was an insensitive comment made by someone that was talking about something that was blown way out of proportion. It was dismissive of consumer concerns but those concerns had been inflated and enraged by the gaming media. And remember this was well before the X1 reveal and E3 so it actually serves as evidence MS never got a chance to sell their product without an already negatively influenced audience.

    • J.j. Barrington

      As much lying and twisting and revising as you do… it may not be “out of your way,” but it’s a lot.

    • Gamez Rule

      You are correct.

      When I went to buy a PS3 the shop sales person said I’m wasting my time with that console & that I should buy a 360. So before I even owned a PS3 the shop called GAME tried to put me off from buying into PS4 for a 360.

      When I told them that I had already bought the 360 and had two consoles in under one year due to RROD and it was his own shop that exchanged them he slowly shut up and moved one☺

    • Its such a hard life being a MS fanboy isnt it?..

    • I am tired of the media bias against the PS4 in all of your posts.

      You are suspicious.. how come you talk so positively about the Scorpio and xbox?

  • darksteel6

    Yeah a Sony clearly fanboy wrote this article. Personally I think Microsoft is going to catch up quick once the Scorpio comes out, people forget that MS outsold Sony for like seven months in a row last year.

  • Cenk Algu

    And this author is a big Sony fan. Nothing can stand on Scorpio’s way. It will destroy the Sony alone. Nobody giving a Sh**** about exclusives anymore,it is all about power and Scorpio bringing it.

    • darksteel6

      Yeah find it ironic the guy is bragging about how the PS4’s power helped it win, but fails to acknowledge that Scorpio being more powerful then the Pro could give it an edge.

    • J.j. Barrington

      It lacks the games and brand recognition, though. That’s why it’s only “helped” rather than “made.”

  • Mr Xrat

    Xgimps lashing out again. PS4 had more and better games since day one. Combine that with a not botched release and the 360 stumbling since 2010 while the PS3 consolidated its reputation as a great source of first-party games and you can see why the Xbone got blown out. It wasn’t just because of power.

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    • angryguy77

      yeah, Knack was killer, and that fraud KZ was must buy!!!!

    • J.j. Barrington

      Just like Ryse, and Sunset Overdrive, and Quantum Break.

      Oh, let’s not get started on Screamride, or LocoCycle, or Fighter Within.

      You’re trying too hard.

    • angryguy77

      um SSOD wasn’t a launch title, nor was QB.

      Try to keep up mmmmk.

    • J.j. Barrington

      And the others?

    • angryguy77

      You’re literally not on topic with x rat. Please, zoom in, or ask for someone versed in English to explain what his and my statements are meaning. You clearly need some help I gather.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Right. You’ve got nothing to say about the ABYSMAL nature of those other games, so it’s best to keep your mouth shut.

    • angryguy77

      lol, you lost son. Try harder next time.

    • J.j. Barrington

      By all means, explain how those games were so much better than Knack and Killzone, and sold much better, too.

    • Mr Xrat

      Ryse was the joke of launch. 🙂

  • Tomaterrrx

    Lol more toxic than usual here.

    • J.j. Barrington

      That angry guy is riling people up.

    • angryguy77

      If people are getting riled up at what I said in my first 2 posts, then they really don’t like hearing the truth.

    • J.j. Barrington

      You actually need truth in order for that to be true, and you’re lacking it rather acutely.

    • Tomaterrrx

      Kinda amusing the lengths some people will go man.

    • J.j. Barrington

      I could see if people here were rejecting the fact that the Scorpio has better hardware, but they’re not doing that. It’s definitely true, though, that software is how Sony is countering the Scorpio. And the Switch, for that matter.

  • Hassan Albaghli

    I highly disagree, when people say that 360 had better exclusive then the PS3. They couldn’t be more wrong. Check the link of the best exclusive for both councels..

    http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/end-of-a-generation-ps3-vs-xbox-360-exclusives.453227381/

  • Hvd

    good one.enjoy waiting for your delays ponies.since horizon zero dawn already launched you wont get another big AAA title this year and no holiday games as usual….lmao.

    why do you think sony is buying the rights for all these 3rd party games? they are scared of xbox scorpio and have no more games this year.the only game you mite get this year is gt sport a ps3 delayed game thats still not out…lmao.

    all sony had this gen was an inmanageable power lead over the xbox one because of a few 1080p and 900p games.that is over native 4k/60fps on xbox scorpio will own sony..lol

    • angryguy77

      careful, you’re going to cause JJ’s eye to start twitching.

    • Hvd

      lol he hasnt posted on my comments in a while i think he learned his lesson last time..lol

  • V3

    The X1 is only behind the ps4 because it was underpowered. This is proven by research and data.

  • Truthhurts24

    Very true article if Microsoft does not change their strategy this E3 it will definitely impact Scorpio sales I say this as an Xbox fan. They have to take notes from Sony and show unannounced games because it excites people for the future and creates buzz especially new ips. I dont think Microsoft will catch up to Sony this gen but they can do way better than where they are in the market right now and that is by getting some major eastern and western support for Xbox anyway they can do it because that is how Sony keeps its diverse lineup. Microsoft’s goal should be to have as much dev support as possible for Xbox that Sony gets for the ps4 and they also should bring back exclusives for Xbox 1st and 3rd party.

    • angryguy77

      Article is flawed about the how and why the ps4 gained such a lead. Sony released a good machine and MS slit their own throat when they revealed the x1. Had that not have happened, I don’t believe the gap would be as big.

      This whole “no games” thing isn’t as big of an issue as it seems. Yes, there is room for improvement, but it’s not like MS has to become sony to be successful either.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Yeah. Just keep pumping out the same handful of franchises. That’s obviously working so well for them right now.

    • angryguy77

      Hey #1 fan, I’m on a few other sites right now if you want to know. How many tabs can your browser support? Hope you can keep up!

    • V3
    • J.j. Barrington

      Got any numbers or percentage points to go with that?

    • angryguy77

      uh oh……https://gamerant.com/survey-gamers-value-graphics-over-gameplay/

      Still going to try and convince us your feelings are actual facts?

    • J.j. Barrington

      See my other response for how this doesn’t even fit the discussion we’re having: buying consoles.

    • angryguy77

      yeah I saw what you said, but this surevey wrecks the “but meh gamez” argument.

    • J.j. Barrington

      It actually does not.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Guess not.

    • angryguy77

      hey v3

      https://gamerant.com/survey-gamers-value-graphics-over-gameplay/

      They’ll still not believe it tho

    • V3

      Of course they won’t!

    • Gamez Rule

      I agree with this..

  • Edonus

    And they tell me there is no gaming media bias…………

    Why does Sony need a trump card? They are clearly winning in sells. You normally only need a trump card if your initial front cards are weak.

    An article like this is selling Ps4s by dismissing project scorpio. I have been saying before when it comes to games all the developers have not died off. MS still has tons of money and can invest in more games which one would think they would clearly do with a new console coming out. The bias gaming media is trying to create this narrative that MS is creating a system that will never have anything someone wants to play.

    I see all of the articles talking about the Scorpio but they are always over arching industry position articles…. like will Scorpio be a success?, or Where are the games? and Ps4 will continue to dominate even with the scorpio being more powerful. I would love to see some articles talking about what we can devs may do with all this new power…. not a comparison but maybe something talking about new AA or lighting and hair effects games might be able to achieve with this much power. Not talking about the Ps4 and how it has to fight to gain ground but just some practical information.What are some of the goodies PC gamers have been bragging about for the last couple years that are now attainable?

    • J.j. Barrington

      They don’t need a trump card. But you’re also talking about gamingbolt. They’re built on clickbait.

      What would be the point in the articles you posit? Those are pretty common sense: nobody’s arguing against those things being possible. On the other hand, people ARE arguing that Scorpio’s power will be enough to overpower the PS4’s library of games.

      Don’t act like you don’t know where this stuff is coming from. You’re not new to any of this. And don’t act like you weren’t around for all the “Sony is doomed” articles of last generation, either.

    • angryguy77

      Clickbait????????that’s all you parrot my 369# neckbearded friend…..we are friends right?????

    • J.j. Barrington

      Are you on shrooms?

  • Sony is on a whole nother level lol.. microsoft still trying to catch up.

    When MS release a scorpio exclusive games the PS5 will be around the corner.


 

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